The Nintendo DS - the beginning of a contentious relationship
Ok, I've had a week with my new Nintendo DS and I can tell you it's been a battle. I've struggled with the basic question, "Do I like the Nintendo DS?" Short answer, I hate the device. Yes, hate. Long answer, I'm enjoying the games for the very same reason I loathe the hardware. Yeah, yeah. Just stay with me…
When a new console comes out, you can't help but take a look at the device itself. We'll have plenty of time to argue
the merits of the games in the coming months; but, for now, the product undergoes well-deserved scrutiny. The Nintendo
DS doesn't even get close to meeting the basic criteria of good design. Why? The two screens. The thing that was
supposed to make the Nintendo DS so revolutionary is the same thing that makes it the anti-portable handheld.
More grumpy old man, with a dash of optimism, after the fold…
The DS is too heavy to play in bed or on the subway so right off the bat it failed my usability test. Try holding
the DS up for more than fifteen minutes without getting a cramp. You will eventually need to lean your elbows on
something. A workmate pointed out that it reminded him of an old Polaroid camera. The ones that fold up you remember
them if youre over 30. Hes absolutely right. The Nintendo DS is called a handheld console. That may be so. But
Nintendo really dropped the ball if they were trying to build a portable handheld console. The sucker wont fit in any
pocket Ive ever seen.
Now that Ive gotten my hands on it, Im more convinced than ever that Nintendo will have a lot of returns on its
hands. The stylus control (a wonderful idea) will result in thousands of run-down screens within months. I already
notice scrape marks from using the Nintendo stylus. I can only imagine what my nephews DS looks like. My guess is
something between a 1989 polaroid camera and a ten cent whore.
Another downside to the design is the overall build quality. The DS is certainly heavy but that doesnt translate into
a feeling of sturdiness. The thumbpad and buttons are a flimsy, black plastic that dont look or feel like they should
be a part of the DS. This can be excused as a first-generation oversight, of course. As the price of making the console
drops, Im sure Nintendo will up the quality of the buttons.
In the splitting hairs department, the two screens seem to offer a different resolution and contrast, which can be
distracting in bright, happy games like Super Mario DS.
So the design of the DS makes it cumbersome to play and carry around. But thats not where the experience ends, thank
goodness. Its only fair that we get into why the console is such a failure in the usability department. The short
answer is, because its been designed to offer us some amazing games.
While Ive cursed the hell out of the thing from the moment I shoved it open (like the two huge iron doors that
Aragorn pushed through in The Two Towers film), I also enjoyed Super Mario DS from the start. A good part of the reason
I enjoyed it is due to the same details Ive been blasting, above.
One, sound. The sound on this bugger is unbelievable. Nintendo did not scrimp on the aural stuff. You can set the
games to surround sound, and it bloody well works, if you can believe it. The waterfall and chirping birds in Marioland
surround you. Beeps and woops tumble from the DS like it was a high-end stereo component. My guess is that a good part
of the heft is the speaker/sound hardware.
Two, dual-screen. While the stylus-control pad combo of Super Mario DS is next to impossible to get down within a few
days (a big minus), the controls also show the potential of the DS to offer up unique titles. The Super Mario DS
minigames reveal the stylus potential better than the main game. Each character (Mario, Wario, Yoshi and Luigi) get a
couple of their own distractions, all of which are nifty and fun due to the stylus screen. For example, Warios
slingshot cannonball is a great time-sucker, where you pull the sling back and let it loose upon falling bombs.
Three, graphics. The processor in the DS is more powerful than I thought. I bet it adds to the heft, too. The graphics
are crisp and clear. The boot-up times are short. There are no dropped frames at any point in Mario, or the Metroid
demo. The DS delivers the eye candy, and I ate it up.
Four, backward compatibility. I can play my GBA SP games in the DS. While this will take a while to get used to
(should I decide to keep the DS) it is a very welcome feature. I certainly wouldnt want to discourage it in future
Nintendo products. But, once again, feature-rich seems to mean extra tonnage and gargantuan size. Insert heavy sigh
here.
If you take a look at the upcoming titles for the DS you can see the obvious developers are creaming over this piece
of hardware. They love the idea of split-screen. They love the idea of stylus input. And they love the processing
power. So, once again, the biggest deficiencies of the DSs usability and design ends up contributing to its biggest
strength. Go figure.
So
As you can probably see, my experience with the DS has been confusing. I genuinely dislike the devices design and
feel. In my opinion, Nintendo has dropped the ball on making a portable handheld that I can whip out and play at a
moments notice. But the DS is also going to do exactly what Nintendo said it would dochange gaming forever. I guess,
to be revolutionary you have to make some sacrifices. As long as I dont have to sacrifice my lower back to the DSs
sheer heft, Ill be happy to overlook its weaknesses.
After all is said and done, I look forward to the next round of DS games in early December. At which point my
love-hate relationship with Nintendos latest baby will, no doubt, continue. In the meantime, I will defintely be
playing my GBA SP games in the best handheld console ever made, the GBA SP.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Capt. Snuffy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I completely agree, this thing is huge! I think it's so big just becuase of the two screens, and i dont think they're even necessary. Why couldn't you just have one screen and make it a touch screen? Anyway, i decided not to buy it after i saw how big it was on display... and i didn't feel like dropping so much ca$h on it. Two screens might mean twice the amount of scratches but i don't think the PSP will fair much better, that smooth wide screen on it is just asking to be scratched!
Uncle Sam @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The reason I decide to not buy DS because I am focus on buy n' play Metroid Prime 2, Resident Evil 4, and new coming Zelda (drooling).
I really want DS. I really want DS. I can't wait to play that DS with friends nationwide who I knew few, to make me feel reall awesome to challengen anyone since stupid crap XBand.
Arielle @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I do not agree at all. The DS was much lighter than I thought, and it's mostly the games that matter. As long as the games are enjoyable, that should more than make up for it. When I first tried the DS, I was disappointed. But then when I got more into it, I found it's possibly one of the best systems ever made. Stop complaining about the hardware, because the dual-screen idea will help developers not feel constricted, and that they have more freedom than ever.
Please spend a bit more time with the DS. Once more software is released, and the games go online, you'll love it! I really did not like your review of this system. It just seemed a bit rushed.
Shinatsu Tasugi @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Bullcrap. Everything this guy said is crap. I have a DS, and let me tell you, it's one of the best handhelds ever put out on the market. Dude, it fits in every single one of my pockets and everyone else's pockets I know who have a DS, and it's barely noticable, so you're obviously lying about its size. I've gone through hours of playing it, and not one single cramp has ever plagued me. It's very light, so you must be be weaker than a sponge to say it's heavy, or you're simply lying. I've used the stylus millions of times, not one single scratch. The buttons are incredibly sturdy like the handheld itself. It has a very comfortable design, so your, again, being neive. And anyway, just look at the photo beside your article! That's not even the DS! It's only a mockup! Your review dosen't even have the facts right. Moron.
Ben @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
It's an opinion piece, "dude". A review. One guy's opinion. No need to get pissy. My screen is scratched, my beautiful, toned arm musculature is tense and my pockets are the size of normal pockets. I don't go for those parachute pants...As I said, I think the console will give us amazing games. But the console itself is as elegant as the Xbox - i.e. not at all elegant.
Oh yeah, and the pic is snarky. And neive is spelled "naive".
Lampbane @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I personally don't have a DS yet, but this review jives with everything I've heard from all the hard-core, long-time gamers I know who have tried one. i.e. - it's too big for on-the-go play (like on the subway), the screen does get scratched with too much stylus use, and the buttons do feel flimsy.
Of course, I'll have my own two cents once mine arrives.
Dezro @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The DS is smaller than the original GameBoy and about the same weight as the Sega Game Gear. Complaining about the size and heft reveals you as spoiled and/or weak.
The marks are from Nintendo's wax screen coating, which reduces real scratches. They disappear when you look at the touch screen dead-on.
The buttons are too damned small, and they should be in the Gamecube layout instead of the Super Nintendo layout, especially because of the GBA compatibility.
LINES @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I am SO glad i did not buy the DS. I called this weeks before the system came out. And now everybody is jumping the bandwaggon. Bastards
SetupWeasel @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
When a company makes something as good as the SP, you can't help but be disappointed in it's next product. Let's face it, the SP is nearly perfect.
The DS is more cumbersome to use. I used to play the SP in bed, on my back, with the gameboy over my head. In general you cannot play the DS this way, unless you are playing a GBA game or a game that does not use the touchscreen. I would like to say that I do get cramps with the SP too.
I haven't had the same experiences with the DS's portability. I was able to play it standing in line for a restaurant, though I'm sure that Metroid Prime Hunters wouldn't have worked so well.
I also want to say that every time I see "scratches" on the bottom screen, they wipe away for me. You may have seen worse.
I knew going into EB on Sunday that the DS would be bigger, heavier, and require more effort to use than the SP. But I also knew that the additional effort would be well within what I was willing to give. It's like when I was willing to buy the original GBA and strap the "Flood Light" on it to play any game.
Capt. Snuffy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The problem with scrathes and it being big is a problem becuase a lot of little kids are going to be getting it for christmas! The DS isn't at all kid-friendly! So while you may have no complaints about the DS, it just isn't going to work out in the end.
Capt. Snuffy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
"And anyway, just look at the photo beside your article! That's not even the DS! It's only a mockup! Your review dosen't even have the facts right. Moron."
i would like to point out that that picture isnt a "mockup" liek you said but actually a photoshopped picture of a GBA SP made for humor. Any idiot could've found the picture of the real DS, but the point was to make a statement (not sure which, maybe that the DS is an sp with another screen tacked on... idk).
So Who's the moron now?
Dark Wolf @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
jeez ben give the thing a break. its a new hand held system for crying out loud. i know tons of teens in my school that have the system and its desing are just fine try mentioning its features not its looks. then you might not get so many pissed off posters. and fyi the only pants that the thing cant fit in are pants that either dont have pockets or are way to small. oh and i know kids that cant even bench a bar but they don't complain about it being heavy jee are i wonder why that is. i cant stand liers especially one that put a false picture by their false article.
zero101 @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
My thoughts on the DS... which I have been playing since it's release:
The unit is certainly larger and heavier than the SP. And I too get tired while playing it sometimes. That's about where my bad experiences end.
I think the design is genius. The problem with the SP and PSP is that their design was created to replicate the home console experience. But why does a handheld system need to be a carbon copy of the home gaming experience? It will never be as good as a home console... because a real console has nicer controllers, a larger screen, better sound.. etc.
The DS is designed to play up the advantages available to a self-contained portable system. Nice stereo sound. A touch screen. Wireless multiplayer. 2 seperate diplays. The DS can actually give you a completely different gaming experience than any home console can...
Imagine sitting on a train during a long trip. Your DS links up with 8 other people on the train... you are playing a game on the top screen while your stats and a chat window are on the bottom one. And because it's a touch screen, you can tap out messages on the bottom screen without going through the traditional hunt and peck with the controller. And it's all played out in beautiful 3D... something that has never been done well on a handheld before.
The first crop of games aren't fantastic. Most are mediocre ports of traditional console games... none of which really play up the strengths of the DS. But more games will come out this year that will be better suited for the system (hopefully). When this happens, I think the DS will truly begin to shine in ways no other handheld ever could.
brittney @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Well, it only me a max of two years before Nintendo releases a DS "Lite" that's half the weight, has a built-in screen protector, analog pad, larger buttons and comes in five different colors. Oh, and it has a GBA link port too.
Still the SP spoiled us, this DS isn't that much heavier than a GBA and the screen is MUCH better quality than the SP. A worthy trade-off if the wireless gaming becomes mainstream.
ancil anthropy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
metaphors like "a ten cent whore" constantly remind me that the discourse of videogaming is being held hostage by young adult males. i wish i could read a simple review of a piece of electronic hardware without having to endure language that is so demeaning to womyn.
brittney @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
"It will only be max of two years."
Oops, typo...
I've got to quit multi-tasking.
Peter @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I disagree with the author of this review on the subject of design. While it's not sleek and sexy, I believe that the problems mentioned about the design are overstated. The system weighs approximatly 250 grams (with ds game, GBA game, and wrist strap). This is very light when you consider that inside is two separate graphic processors, two screens (one touch sensitive, both backlit), stereo speakers, WiFi, and a port for head phones and the charger. So far, I have played the system in my bed, standing, and sitting, so in my opinion that is not a problem either. And as for it being to large for pockets, I were jeans and I can easily fit it in my pockets. However I can see how smaller pants might have smaller pockets. The only problem that I have is the abxy buttons. I find that they are far to close together for my taste. However this was a trade off. Nintendo wanted to make it easier for leftys to play games, so they kept the abxy buttons closer together so that they could be used as a d-pad as well. I do agree with the author on the subject of games. There is a lot of potential for fun and emersive gameplay in the ds.
As a final note I'd just like to say that this is in many ways a situation of glass half empty, glass half full. There is no reason to flame anyone for their opinions. No amount of yelling and screaming will ever persuade a person to taking up your opinion. You will only lose respect by flaming others.
Christopher7xii @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
First... Ancil,
"i wish i could read a simple review of a piece of electronic hardware without having to endure language that is so demeaning to womyn."
How is pointing out the existance of cheap whores(actual prostitutes, not sleazy women) demeaning to womEn. You'd think if anything would be demeaning would by using words like 'womyn' and appearing dumb and incapable of spelling words correctly. Whores are a part of society, they choose their job, and I'm pretty sure they're just offended by you sticking up for them saying their a blight on womanhood as you are that they exist and lower american society's view on females.
Moving on. The NDS isn't that heavy. Me and my girlfriend, average 20 year old americans, have no problem playing it for extended periods of time. Most of the time I play it is laying on my back in bed. As for not fitting into pockets, it fits into all my pants no problem. And no, I don't wear windsails. I wear casual dresspants, AT my waist, with a belt. I can fit the NDS in my pocket alongside my Nokia 6010 cellphone. I have no problem whipping it out for a few rounds of play either, especially with the delicious sleep feature. While shopping at the mall today and she was in the dressing room trying on outfits, i had time to break out my NDS and do a few mini-games on Mario64:DS before she'd pop out and expect me to say she looks cute.
I do agree with the scratch thing though... Not only the stylus, but the main screen as well. I can't figure out how, but in it's closed state in my pocket dust manages to get in still and stick to both screens and it really bugs me. I can't imagine how long it'll take for the touch screen to give way, but I got a 2 year warranty with Mediaplay for $20 anyways. I plan on my NDS 'breaking' at around 22 months, getting my $150 back and buying whatever new sleeker version they have out by then... Or atleast a cheaper version + some games.
As for my opinions of the NDS not expressed above, I LOVE the layout of the controls. I couldn't stand GameBoy only using 2 face buttons for so long. So many games were hampered (Duke Nukem 3D, Super Street Fighter 2 are the first that come to mind), and the L/R buttons are restored to usable buttons. I'm not a 7 year old, so the small structure of the GBA SP really killed my hands to use the L/R buttons with any accuracy. If I wrapped my entire index fingers around the back of the system and pushed L/R with the base of my fingers my hands wouldn't wear as fast, but it felt really awkward and killed response time. The sleep on fold design is awesome. Big downside in my opinion... The size of the DS games. They're half the size of the GBA games, despite the system being twice as big as the SP was. It just doesn't make sense to me. Make smaller games for a bigger system? Wouldn't you be able to fit more space on bigger sized games too? Wouldn't it be nice if Golden Sun fit onto one catridge instead of two? =P Hopefully the NDS never recieves a title like that.
~Christopher
jerry @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
i dunno, i find a lot of the complaints in this article unfounded...
clearly the DS is much larger than the SP, but it is not much bigger than the original GBA, yet i never heard any complaints about that system's portability? in fact i would argue the original GBA's portability was worse because the screen was exposed and prone to scratching.
i cannot relate to the supposed gargantuan heft of the device either. i have no problems holding it with both hands or one hand to play with a stylus. i actually find it's weight comparable to the xbox controller s, which i bet isn't a huge chore to hold when mr. zackheim is playing halo 2 :)
in regards to the d-pad and buttons feeling cheap... uhmm.. that's not something i notice. when i play games i tend to focus on the game, not how the buttons feel. the bottom line is that the buttons are responsive, and that's all i can really ask for. if there is one complaint i will say that the face buttons are a little too small.
scratching the DS's touch screen shouldn't be a huge issue.. considering it's a TOUCH screen and not a jackhammer screen. i can't speak for the thumb strap (which i have yet to use), but i find it hard to believe you can scratch the screen with the stylus unless you're really trying to...
anyway, my 2 cents.. not that you asked for it.. but i give it to you anyway cuz i'm generous.
Benny @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Yeah, I tend to disagree at all. I actually just recently wrote in a forum that I'm in love w/ the DS. I haven't noticed any of the things you've mentioned above, and my expectations (which were damn high) have been exceeded.
Capt. Snuffy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
"Well, it only me a max of two years before Nintendo releases a DS "Lite" that's half the weight, has a built-in screen protector, analog pad, larger buttons and comes in five different colors. Oh, and it has a GBA link port too."
I hadn't thought of that... and now i realize you're most definitely right. Good point. :o
JMoon5FTM @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I pre-ordered my DS before it came out, and picked it up the day it was available. Ever since then, I've been having a blast. The thing isn't really any bigger than a GBA, nor is it that heavy. That thing you are scraping IS the screen protector, and if you look at the screen dead-on you won't see any scratches on it. The device is nice and durable, and if you're playing off the A/C adapter and someone walks across the cord, the cord flies right out - a feature that got a lot of press when you-know-what company made the controllers of their home console act that way.
Yes, the sound is awesome, and graphics are cool, too. For controlling Super Mario 64 DS, I recommend the little thumb strap, as it works better when using the touch screen for analog control. Stick with the stylus for games like Feel the Magic where you need pinpoint control. (It works well for the SM64DS mini-games, as well). And you can't compare the awesomeness of Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt's control scheme. There is no other videogame console that can duplicate mouselook. The DS is going to be _the_ machine for FPSes.
And play your GBA games on your GBA SP? Why? Okay, if you want to multi-player, that's understandable...but the DS screen is much nicer, and I highly recommend it for all your single-player joy.
JMoon5FTM @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I pre-ordered my DS before it came out, and picked it up the day it was available. Ever since then, I've been having a blast. The thing isn't really any bigger than a GBA, nor is it that heavy. That thing you are scraping IS the screen protector, and if you look at the screen dead-on you won't see any scratches on it. The device is nice and durable, and if you're playing off the A/C adapter and someone walks across the cord, the cord flies right out - a feature that got a lot of press when you-know-what company made the controllers of their home console act that way.
Yes, the sound is awesome, and graphics are cool, too. For controlling Super Mario 64 DS, I recommend the little thumb strap, as it works better when using the touch screen for analog control. Stick with the stylus for games like Feel the Magic where you need pinpoint control. (It works well for the SM64DS mini-games, as well). And you can't compare the awesomeness of Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt's control scheme. There is no other videogame console that can duplicate mouselook. The DS is going to be _the_ machine for FPSes.
And play your GBA games on your GBA SP? Why? Okay, if you want to multi-player, that's understandable...but the DS screen is much nicer, and I highly recommend it for all your single-player joy.
Jon Cockle @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
it never fails to amuse me how cosmically dumb some of the people on this commenting board are:
"How is pointing out the existance of cheap whores(actual prostitutes, not sleazy women) demeaning to womEn. You'd think if anything would be demeaning would by using words like 'womyn' and appearing dumb and incapable of spelling words correctly."
Spelling the word "womyn" is a commonly accepted feminist statement in line with the posters anti-women-bashing sentiment (although I do sense a degree of sarcasm in his post...). The point being that by replacing the "e" with "y" you are disassociating women with "men", because GIRL POWER!!!1 women don't NEED men to wash dishes and cook my dinner etc.
yours truly,
a video game player with half his brain still intact
DOTQWERTY218 @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I have to say the DS is a great system and that the only thing I dislike is getting used to the button layout when playing a GBA game. I think I will carry my GBA SP around with me too, to play those games. Oh btw a newer version of the DS will most likely not have an analog pad and for sure it wont have a GBA link port, because thats one thing they said that separate GBA sp from the DS is that you cant play multiplayer GBA games on the DS, unless its taking turns. um yeah...Eh?
now leaving joystiq @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The Nintendo DS is not heavy nor is it huge and the screen does not scratch, inn general everything Ben belched up is a lie (such massive falsehoods it is literally out of bounds to be deamed his "humble opinion").
I think Ben should be ashamed.
Christopher7xii @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Yeah Jon, I was being witty with it. I know that women (females, or girls, or chicks, whatever you wanna call the collective) use the term 'womyn' to seperate themselves from guys/men/boys/males. I just find it retarded in the greatest sense that they feel inventing a word will cause any form of real seperation is all. Women itself, the word, isn't derogatory in any sense. No point in changing it. Sure lesbians can try and swear themselves off from any interaction with men, but humanity would end without both sexes. Something as immature and childish segregation shouldn't be encouraged in my opinion. So I will openly mock and point out the flaws in the idealogy...
To be blunt, women is a f***ing word, mispelling it to empower yourself is completely idiotic and pointless. Why not do something like how to procreate without men or our seed, then I'll respect your silly movement and declare you 'womyn', or 'wymons' or whatever you want.
Drew @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I personally have never owned a GBA SP or anything really small before so I'm sure that affects my judgement. I really am enjoying the DS. I bought the URBZ and Feel the Magic the day it came out and I really enjoy both. While these games are what I would rate 7/10's I see incredible potential for the system. I think that any flaws in any of the 1st gen games are due to rushing for the launch. I personally cant WAIT for the first RPG to come out that really uses the dual/touch screen setup. Its going to be awesome to move items around in inventory with touch/drag and a fast tough with a free thumb is much more desirable than lots of scrolling and clicking.
Other than that I just have to say that I walked around an arts festival for 45 minutes the other day with the ds in my right front pocket of my pair of Levi 501's and had no problems. This is far from not being able to find a pocket it would fit.
MaxSMoke @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I completely agree with this article. I too was disappointed with the size the first time I saw an actual screenshot of the hardware. But what it can do is amazing. Mario64 shows off some spectacular gameplay. Really, it's the only game worth buying right now. Don't waste your money on the other 5 games out, they aren't worth $30-$40. If you don't like Mario, then you might as well wait.
And FYI, the PSP is just as bulky. What is with this SUV mentality people have these days? Bigger isn't always better.
Hellb0und @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Dude, get yourself some cargo pants...
Good points though.
Sad game commentor Chris7 @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Chris, you monumentally underestimate the power of words and names. There's always been a mythical strength to names -- biblical Adam names the animals to Vernor Vinge's cyberpunk precursor about true names. Even gangsta hiphop's attempt to "co-opt" derogatory words like n***gga and the gay community's use of the word 'queer' show that there is a weight to 'just words' - and that is why the pen is mightier than the sword, sometimes.
If naming yourself isn't a valid political statement, then you really dont get it. There are a lot of reasons to dismiss radical elements of any philosophy, including feminism. But dissing the word 'womyn' and dismissing phrases that evoke misogyny is narrow minded of you. In fact, it just shows me how much certain cultural norms of sexism are so deeply ingrained in you that you reflexively attack anything that questions it. There were other times that other phrases evoke genocide or racism. Caught red-handed. Jew me down. Gypped me.
But no, you and your macho 20 year old American self, you know it all. You're a child.
And as for all the people that called Ben an idiot, get a life. It's his opinion. It is offered FWIW. If you think you know better, get off yer fat friggin' asses, create a gamer blog and share your inviolate opinions with the rest of the world. Until then, wait for puberty to hit, then get laid and chill out.
Eion @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Well, I'm not going to buy a DS because it looks like a dumb idea and in general I don't like Nintendo games (and to think that I actually considered getting a GameCube instead of my Xbox - at least before I tried to use the 'controller' *shudder*). PSP? Maybe. I'd need to try one first. I kinda like the games on my ipaq for now.
I'm with Chris on calling 'womyn' and other similar overly-PC neologisms what they are - *stupid*. Seriously. People who use them in proper writing (and not as a joke) richly deserve all of the derision they receive. Tags like 'womyn' have no "mythical strength" whatsoever, because there is no real cultural identity to go with them, unlike all of the other examples you cite.
Oh, and caught red-handed has *nothing* to do with racism... it refers to having blood on your hands after having commited a murder (see Macbeth). Misperceptions by those seeking to be politically correct about the allegedly racially-charged origins of innocent words (especially 'niggardly') really bother me.
striegs @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Dude, I just bought the DS yesterday (along with Mario 64 DS) and I haven't stopped playing it since this morning (though I really should be writing an English paper, but sometimes you need to keep your priorities straight, am I right?).
Anyway, MY name's also Ben, so here's Ben II's impressions:
Size: Honestly, when the guy at GameStop handed me the box I thought to myself, "Holy Crap! This is NOT the size of my N64!" The DS itself was both smaller and lighter than I expected, and it has no problem fitting into my oversized pockets (which, by the way, are the greatest inventions ever, next to Gatorade). However, the buttons ARE pretty miniscule (most likely so the left side can mimic the right if a left-handed control scheme is needed). Though having larger L and R buttons is always a plus.
Graphics: One thing's for sure, the DS is a whole lot more powerful than the N64. It took a while for it to sink in that I was playing a true 3D game on a handheld, which makes you appreciate its power even more. However, it still seemed a bit underwhelming when compared to screenshots of PSP games. And, since we all know that regular people don't care if gameplay is crap if the game looks pretty, the PSP better have some major defect (like exploding batteries, or... imploding batteries) if Nintendo's gonna compete.
Sound: Wow. I never realized the merits of stereo sound until I was using it to follow a Boo through a maze of rooms. And the DS being hella loud at full volume doesn't hurt either.
Touchscreen: It worked beautifully in Metroid Prime, but my efforts to control Mario with it left me wanting to strangle myself with the wrist strap. I'll take the d-pad, thank you. But I agree, the minigames alone would have warranted buying Mario 64 DS. That shows just how much fun the DS can be, and Nintendo needs to take advantage of this. After powering down following my first 2 hour Mario session I also saw scratches on my screen, but they buffed right out with my shirt.
Other: Depending on how you hold it, one screen may look darker than the other. Due to the limited viewing angle allowed by the backlit screens, this will happen occasionally. A quick fix is to click the hinge into position two, with the top and bottom halves parallel to each other. If you try this on the SP, it will snap back to the regular position with the slightest jar. However, the DS was made for this, so if you think it'll help don't hesitate to try.
Well, that's my five cents (all I have is a nickel). Anyone else named Ben out there want to give a third opinion?
Keaton @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
This article is some geeks biased opinion. When the psp comes out he will bask in glory that he can finally play the games he's been playing for the last ten years, but in his hand.
It seems that people here are complaining about aspects of the ds that they have no idea how to fix.
Why didn't Ben Zackheim tell everyone how the annoyances could be fixed? Probably because he doesn't even know how hard it would be to have two screens, wifi, touch panel, gba slot, dual speakers, two processors, microphone and all the other special components and not be heavy.
His idea of portability is whipping it out while riding a bike.
No one plays their gba while walking, they need to look where they're going. So the ds was designed to be played in between travells, for e.g. on a park bench or sitting on the subway, whereby you can place the ds on your lap.
It's not a gameboy so don't act like it was suppose to be. If you want a gameboy wait till the next gameboy comes out next to the revolution.
JinFX @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
yo has everyone forgot that this isnt the replacement GB? there will be a (i think) GBE for evolution (or was that GBR for revolution?)
the DS is supposed to be bigger and badder than the SP and they still expect to sell SPs, thats why there are so many NEW SP special editions
and i dont think the DS is too heavy are big
but i do think that the games so far has yet to do something amazing w/ the DS's features
Skullflame @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I must disagree with some parts of your review. The DS is lighter then I thought, and I never got tiered of holding it or gotten any cramps. The controls are hard to get use to at first, but you can get use to it in under a hour, not days. The DS isnt that big, fits nicly in pockets, and looks durable. Nicly done Nintendo.
karthik @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
i said before that DS will not be great .But now i say that even the psp will have nagging problems.
so an ideal handheld would be something which is just in between the DS and the PSP.
ideally it should be shaped and sized similar to the older gameboy advance,with a mighty powerful processor.and with atleast a 3.5 inch screen.
i wud die for that.
so both the handhelds dissapoint me so looks like i will be spending a lot of my money on my consoles.all u guys ,i think we all are passing a "handheld craziness " phrase now.soon it will be over and we all will return to our faithful PCs and consoles.amen.
Jason @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
OK, I have read your review and I can see some of your points. I have the DS. Bought it on the 24th in anticipation on having something to do at the in-laws. I own the Advance, SP and now the DS. I love the LITTLE thing. In all honesty my 4 year old love it as well. We both get stuck wasting time playing the Metroid demo or metroid fusion on it. So let me tell you my little review of the heavy hitter.
Graphics. With only being able to play the Metroid demo, I found the graphics to be more than what I had expected. I have played the Metroid Prime and Prime 2 and found it was like playing a smaller version of the Cube games. Gripe- I was hoping for some type of setting that would let GBA games use full screen.
Sound. Your review of the sound was RIGHT on. The sound on the DS is WOW. Gripe- With all this sound quality, there is no MP3 player capability. BUMMER
Usability. The weight really wasnt a concern to me Nor does my 4 year old seem to have a problem using it in bed or on the couch. I think you went a little over board with weight subject. Its not that big, and not that heavy. How ever there are some problems with its build and usability. The touch screen is quickly going to make parents and adults learn the meaning of taking care of what you have You dont want to put this thing in your pocket, and I still dont see why you would want to put a SP in your pocket either. The touch screen is something that you would want to take care of, and get some covers for it. With out something to take care of that bottom screen, you are going to find your self out of $150. I really think Nintendo needs to help their customers out a bit and provide them with some touch screen covers for this thing.
Over all gripes for the DS is in the Usability area. When playing GBA games. If I play the DS with a GBA game for an hour I find that I have at least 2 to 3 hours of a right thumb cramp something fierce. Those buttons seem a bit small. I eventually have to revert to my SP with my palm extension to play the GBA games.
In Closing, IM keeping My DS and I will be getting another one for my 4 year old as well. For now I guess well alternate playing the DS and Prime 2 . If you think the DS is to heavy and big. Look at the PSP. And ask those same questions!
Max @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The DS has two screens, why? So you can look at mini-maps! Who really needs those little extras that the DS gives you with the second screen? Personally I haven't yet tried it out, since i'm in the UK, but the concept of the DS ceases to impress me with it's second screen, it's lack of graphics, (I think we've moved on since the Nintendo 64, just look at this : http://www.ugo.com/channels/tech/features/nintendo_ds/images/nintendods_4.jpg) and the DS can't play 1.8gb movies. The DS truly is like a N64 with 2 screens and some "kewl" features. The PSP however is an entertainment device all in one, with MP3's and Movies, it also shows how you don't need more than one screen for a perfect handheld.
The PSP is long, but this lets it watch widescreen movies, while the DS is square and when folded, bulky. The PSP is a much more attractive device with surpasses the outdated DS by far.
Christopher7xii @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Before I respond to post #28...
I didn't know that they already announced a name for the next GameBoy. I really don't understand why you'd launch two competeting systems. I know they originally said the DS wasn't meant to compete with the GameBoy, but it's so similar in use, yet superior in technology, I don't see how they could believe that. The only logical thinking they can have behind that is DS is meant for the older crowds, and the GameBoy will be cheaper / lighter and for kids. Ya know, $75-100 for a nice 'lite' DS with half the power so it still kicks ass, but affordable/durable enough for children. I know right now that the DS is sure as hell not meant for people pre-high school. Just consider the size and weight, as well as the idea of a touch screen and online capabilities. I know a lot of parents are scared to let their children into chat rooms due to cyber-stalkers, I can't imagine the parents getting their child a system that would allow them to talk to people theoretically(with Demasked) across town. Imagine how bad that could be in an apartment complex of NYC or a similar city setting. 9 year old Girl gets DS. Girl plays pictochat with a '10 year old girl' that lives 3 floors down. The '10 year old' invites her down to play with her barbies or play her Xbox2 with her. The NDS's screen isn't large enough for a parent to monitor the conversation, as well as the fact that the NDS isn't an actual internet chatroom where convo's can be logged. The girl goes missing and they really won't have any way of tracking her. Does no one else see the potential harm in a minor owning a NDS?
Moving on from that though, I am excited for the PSP. I'm not one of those 'stay true to your brand' type people. I'll own both and purchase games for both(as long as sony doesnt charge the assumed $50 each for a friggin portable game). I play video games looking for entertainment, not an identity.
Just wow, comment #28. It's hilarious how off-base you are with believing that mispelling a word can create any form of power or unity. It's a mock of a real word in attempt to stand out. Ever seen the movie PCU? It's 90 minutes of laughing at how ignorant american society is with every single individual trying to be unique, powerful, and interesting by creating another foolish subculture, associating with more people that feel the need to make stuff up to take a place in the world.
Someone already spoke on your getting caught red handed line, but also your 'the pen is mightier than the sword' reference... You used it completely out of it's original context. It's meant along the same lines of 'brains over brawn'. A sly conman can manipulate you to do anything or get whatever he wants, while a strong person is just a brute. Simple comic conversion, Proffesor X > Colossus.
Christopher7xii @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
OH! Some info for all you folks with the mentality of 'and the DS can't play 1.8gb movies. The DS truly is like a N64 with 2 screens and some "kewl" features. The PSP however is an entertainment device all in one, with MP3's and Movies'
There's been for a while a product offered by lik-sang.com that lets you rip DVDs or CDs or just play MP3s and even eBooks on your GBA, and is very compatable with the NDS. It even looks prettier on the NDS due to richer colors and DPI of the NDS. The huge upside this has over the PSP? Their format is exclusive to their systems. So in order to play a movie, you need to purchase that movie, SOLELY FOR THE PSP. Which is pretty bad. Their memory sticks only go up to 256mb, so goodluck with that 1.8gb movie. The GBA movie player uses flash memory, which you can pick up a stick of 1gig from Kingston for $80, which can hold 16 HOURS of film (or 43 episodes of anime if you're like me) when converted to the GBA format. The memory + the movie player = $110 total, which is still cheaper when combined with the NDS then the 2 of the PSP bundles they're offering. Also you have to consider battery time. They're expecting you to be able to play THREE hours of movie with the PSP before having to charge it again. THREE. While the NDS you can get up to 12 hours easy. Which would you rather have now?
brittney @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
"so many NEW SP special editions"
I had to buy a pearl white one, even though I have a DS. :-( It's so cute though and I wanted one ever since I saw the FFTA special edition.
On the DS vs. PSP argument - whatever...
Why not save up and buy both? That's really what the console wars are all about (i.e. poor gamers wanting to convince themselves they have the superior product), but a PSP & DS together won't cost but $30 or so more than the PS2 did at launch. Also, they are both GOOD systems - one does not have a superior advantage over the other. And if you buy a DS or PSP and just can't seem to like one or the other, sell it over ebay and lose $10-$20 - not that big of a deal.
Max @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Wow, Chris, that's an excellent product, (not sarcastic) but that was just a small addition to my comment, since the PSP is mainly a gaming device you ALSO get that, so you DONT have to pay a, what was it? $110 extra. The PSP is said to cost $180+ which gives you a portable console with PS2 graphics, online play, AND the movie player.
SetupWeasel @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I don't understand why people would buy movies on UMD. It is not compatible with anything else. It would be like buying a minidisc album. There are cheaper portable DVD players with better screens, and you don't have to buy all your movies again.
For the cost of 5-8 UMD movies you can get a portable DVD player that can play the DVDs you have AND DVDs you burn.
Capt. Snuffy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I don't really feel the need to play a game wherever i am while on-the-go, so i'm just going to stick with my PC since it has great controls with a familiar button layout, great graphics, great games, it run's the most advanced and moddable games, and it has one giant screen for me to use. booyakasha
Jonathan @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I agree that it's pretty big and bulky, but I really love the new DS. It's really cool and a lot of fun.
FireBad @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The DS is not heavy, does fit in my pocket, and has proven to be highly enjoyable even with the limited amount of software available. This review made absolutely no sense. I had low expectations for the DS, and it has really shined especially in areas that Ben says are weak points. I rather liked the feel of the buttons and was immediately impressed. The touch screen has convinced me this has real potential in games and not some gimmick. This guy's review was very poorly done and should not be considered credible by anyone. For the record I am in the Industrial Design field and do think this gadget could have used a bit more styling and attention to detail. But as always we designers are always hushed by costs.. sigh.
I will also be buying the PSP, but it is not going to be this miraculous all in one device from the information that we have. The idea of paying AGAIN for a UMD of a movie I already own on DVD will stop me from doing much other than gaming on it when it comes out. The GBA video player does allow you to take YOUR movies with you anywhere without double paying and hauling stacks of UMDs. MP3 in the PSP? That's slightly more useful if you don't already have an iPod, but it will be severly limited in capacity. Sony typically does a bad job with these sort of players and limits them with ridiculous amounts of DRM or other inconveniences. Bottom line, Ben's review is amazingly biased against the DS and his 'opinions' are a little over the top of what an average user may expect to find.
kendall jwi @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
The DS is hardly huge. While it's bigger than the SP, you have to take into consideration it's basically a portable N64. That and the fact that it remains backwards compatible with the SP (a huge bonus). I have no problem putting it into baggy pants or cargo pockets. Perhaps the author just wears yellow spandex?
The issue with weight is laughable. I don't know what kind of weakling is writing the article but the DS is extemely light for it's dimensions. Also, it's roughtly the same weight as the PSP. Will the author be bitching and moaning about the weight in his PSP review? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Lastly, the quality of launch titles and how they take advantage of the DS is nothing surprising. The launch titles for any new system are always pretty weak compared to what will come out within the next year. Mario DS is still strong as well as the Metroid DS demo, just like all Nintendo launch titles before them for every other Nintendo system to date.
In short, this review is a joke. The author needs to get his yellow spandex panties out of a bunch and sit down and evaluate the DS for what it is, not what it isn't.
AntiChris7 @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
Chris 7 gets his world view from PCU. That explains it all.
Again, if you doubt the power of words, think about in even your pitifully short lifetime, how the word for African American has progressed from Negro to Black to AA to a multitude of names. Labels once considered proper now are considered offensive. Orientals vs Asian (go read Said's Orientalism for more on that. If you read more than XMen TPBs.)
My bad on the red-handed, was thinking Indian-giver and Redskins. But my other 2 examples are still good.
And, brains over brawn is exactly what I was thinking of -- any attempt to change the status quo is (hopefully) brains over brawn, unless you buy the Second Amendment.
As for being easily manipulated -- WOW. Listen to you espouse the mainstream thinking. Read some Chomsky, child. I think he can and often is full of it, but his view from the outside in on these issues can be enormously liberating.
kendall @ Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM
I love how battery life isn't even mentioned in the author's article. The battery life is awesome. 6-10 hours as promised. What's the PSP weighing in at? 2!
The DS is a solid machine. It hit the ground running and I don't think it's going to slow down for some time to come.
Like Nintendo has proven time and time again, you don't need to have the sharpest graphics or slickest hardware. What counts is the games and I think Mario and Metroid DS are a good indication of things to come.