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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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The DS is not heavy at all in fact I got more cramps on the SP due to the fact that its so small you have to hunch your fingers together so close to hit the buttons.

The sides and corners also hurt on the SP. Granted the SP is small it still didn't make up for the cramps. The DS is very light for its size and I've never had a problem so far with it. The comfort is there because of its size. It feels like holding a controller. Now the review says he has cramps holding it but im sorry man but you must have some pretty weak arms to have your arms hurt from this thing because I've been able to play for a good 2 hours on it with no problems.

The graphics are great, the sound is great, it does need work on the design as far as looks and size but thats about it. Its still a great console.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Ugh, people haven't caught on yet....

SPECS MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The Game Boy Advance for instance, was capable of a little higher than PS1 quality graphics, but only few games used that ability (Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (GBA) used it, for christs sake, but so many otheres didn't!)

The Xbox may 'multiply' the Gamecube stat-wise, but Metroid Prime (GCN) came out on top. It's all in the developer's will and knowledge. Do some research about when Hideo Kojima was talking about MGS:Acid (PSP) and you'll know what I mean.

The very popular gaming magazine, EGM, stated that most of the games [for the PSP] did not even pass PS1 quality, meaning that you could just buy a GBA:SP from one of it's dozens of color choices, its nice (screen protective) design, then pick up a third party MP3 adapter for it and you are set (considering it won't be worth even using the UMD's as movies).

I still think people who think specs make the console better end of story are just run-of-the-mill intelligent wannabes who think they are the shit by saying such cliche, UNTRUE remarks.

However, I still think the PSP looks quite appealing to me, and will share a nice spot in my right cargo pocket; DS in the left.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with Ben that the DS is a little big. I don't think it's too big but I think it could be slimmed down. I think it's definitely more comfortable than the SP though.

I really don't think it's too heavy. I would be interested to actually see how Ben is holding it because hes gotta be holding it wrong. It is definitely possible to hold the DS with two hands while using the stylus, in fact I do it naturally. All you do is wedge the corner of the device on in the palm of your stylus using hand, your hand will be placed to the side of the screen while the stylus is extended. You should be able to see the screen without your hand in the way and have a lot of leverage so that the stylus can reach all four corners of the screen. When I hold it this way my pinky reaches around back to where the "R" shoulder button is. In this way the side of the DS should lay against your palm. Try it and see if it works if my description made any sense. I think this method keeps my stylus hand more steady as well.

I've been playing with this thing nonstop since I got it and my touchscreen is not scratched at all. Have you tried wiping off your scratch marks Ben? Or have you been using something other than the stylus on the screen?

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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to the guy who wrote this article.......
u are an idiot and ur full of crap.....
as if you cant hold onto something like that u weakling....sheeeesh.... also the screen is bound to scratch no matter what so that y you buy a screen protector for like5 dollars u retard.... also gettin use to playing games with new layouts does not take a few days unless you have like downsyndrome or u have some disorder....it'll take like 20mins,,,
anyways i hope you understand the psp will weigh muchmuch heavier and the screen on the psp is also gonna scratch.....

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Whoa, two words, people: CALM DOWN.

Unless anyone here lives in China, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, or France, I'm pretty sure you have the right to free speech. This guy is just expressing his opinion that he likes the DS as much as he hates it, just as you are now expressing your opinion that the man who wrote this review deserves to be castrated.

If you're looking to read some positive reviews about the DS, try looking, oh, ANYWHERE. One of my Google News alerts is for Nintendo, and I have been bombarded the past week by online news sites raving the DS is "revolutionary," "innovative," and even "delightful." Even with all the negative things he said about the DS, he still said plenty of positive stuff.

Hey, a little dissenting voice every now and then is healthy, right? Well, not for this guy, but you know what I'm saying.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for your points, all. Like I said in the piece, I'm torn by the console. It has strong points as a game device, but I think it's just a weakly designed portable handheld. To Firebad, I appreciate your expertise in design, but I disagree. Almost nothing about this console's shape or size is user-friendly. I'm a gamer. No degree. But I know when I'm comfortable with my gaming experience. Having said that, I'm taking everyone's suggestion that I go to the gym more.

For those of you who thought this was a bad review of the DS as a gaming device, try reading the article again. All the way through. I clearly state its strengths and tow the mainstream line that it's "revolutionary". I did forget to mention the great battery life, though. Apologies for that.

While I appreciate the long, intense Sony/Nintendo conflict, I won't get involved. Most critiques here segue into comparisons with the PSP, as if to justify the DS's design flaws. I don't care about the PSP. This is a review of the DS. And its flaws guarantee I'll have a love-hate relationship with it for as long as I own it. I can say the same thing about my Xbox.

You guys are frickin' great. Excellent posts. Keep em up. Do you think the DS is a mixed bag, or is it everything you could hope for?

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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The DS is heavier than I thought (but then again, I'm used to the SP and putting it in a non-cargo pants pocket was perfect, hard to do that with a DS. As for the touchscreen, I put in a PDA screen protector immediately. I've used PDAs and they do scratch, if anything hard sticks to the stylus, you're screwed so protect it as soon as you can.
I also agree with the author on the size of the buttons. Why can't they be the same size as the SP's? There's lots of room in the chassis. I think Nintendo tried too hard to do a neo-retro design based on the old game and watch. The positioning of the triggers also I do not like. It would be better if Nintendo's designers rounded them off more. I disagree with the author tho on the aesthetics. I think the DS is well designed (not as pretty as the PSP but pretty good). I have relatively small hands for a guy and I have yet to have any cramps or discomfort from holding the DS for an hour or more. Author needs to work out more.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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anti-Playstation here. ~_~

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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God, the "after the fold!" thing you guys do is hyper annoying. It's your crutch phrase. It makes no sense in an RSS reader.

Please, for the sweet love of the fightin' Jesus, CUT IT OUT.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Actually the DS suprised the hell outta me. I pre-ordered it one I heard there'd be a shortage, just because I thought I'd probably end up wanting it before Xmas. Then I went to Target and saw it hooked up a week before it's release. I hadn't watched any videos or anything about it, just saw somee screen shots. When I actually saw it playing Metroid I was nearly aroused. It was so much better looking than my SP and I've become big on handheld since the birth of the SP(before I never gave it a chance due to not wanting to buy batteries every week). So, DS has been absolutely amazing to me and I'm completely in love with it... Just not it's software choices. Everything seems really really really weak right now. Spider-man, Madden, and Sims just should flat out not exist IMO. Madden's only upside is it's probably the second best multiplayer experience on the NDS currently, first being the metroid demo. In the height of all the Halo 2 / Half-Life 2 / Metroid Prime 2 releases, they couldn't of picked a better title to bundle with it, even if it's a demo.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I think that this gut is a total moron. ive owned mine for a week now, and ive never had any problems. The so called scratches that ive seen on mine are just condensation that my stilus has wiped away, and they look like scratches, but its not. The only cramps that Ive had was in my neck, and thats because I was playing it upside down on my couch. lol. There are no problems with this device. It fits in all my pockets, and its not heavy at all. Don't listen to this guys' crap.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I got my DS on the first day it came out and I have to say that I dont have any big complaints thus far. The sound and graphics are great and I think everyone agrees with that. As for the actual hardware I am also very inpressed. The DS does take a little getting used to cuz it is a little bigger but once you get used to using the stylus and the thumpad you relize how great the hardware is. Playing Mario 64 DS is almost like playing the originall once you get to the thumpad. And playing metroid hunters with the stylus or thumpad is so much like playing a 1st person shooet with a mouse that its rediculious. I prefer the stylus for the finer control.

The first time I used the DS it did seem a bit heavy and I did cramp up. But i really think its because i the muscles in my hands and wrist were not used to it. After a day or two the DS fealt just perfect in my hand when i was playing. I guess I just got used to the weight.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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The real story about the DS is that its not the SP I agree that the SP was the best handheld ever designed the reason for this is because they took what people said about all the problems with the GBA and fixed them there for made the perfect system it just cost them a failure of a system to do it but you have to think of the possibilities of DS the fact that you can have WIFI multiplayer local and internet plus think of the Moding community with GBA cartage flasher like with the SP, but this time we can have web browsers PDA features I mean think about it how much does that sidekick cast to do chat like what 200 bucks you get it with your gaming system and with the I mean it could be a new way of meaning people start a conversation with someone on the bus using both of you DS's then meet in reel life with out the awkwardness of saying hi in real life it not just a revolution in gaming its a revolution in the way we communicate.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Are you kidding me? Doesn't fit in your pocket, unless your a size 2 my god it wouldnt fit. Too bulky to lift and need to rest your elbows? Dude unless your a weak bastard and are going along with everything the PSP has to offer, your bad comments on DS are nothing but crap. You forgot the whole Wireless Gaming part too, thats what makes Nintendo DS great for me. Let alone the double screen and touch screening for the bottom this is one hell of a device! I am getting it for christmas and I have tested it a few stores, and this is no system to be whining about.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I too disagree with Ben. However, I'm not going to be rude about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that. Though, I have played the DS and personally, I think it's great. It's lighter than I thought it'd be and I didn't really see any difference in the contrast of the screens. Also, it does fit in my pockets, but most, if not all, of my pockets are pretty big. The one thing I do agree with, however, is how easily the touch screen will be scratched. When Nintendo brings screen covers to the U.S. I'm definitely going to buy some (is it's not too late by then).

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I hardly believe everything I read so I decided to buy the DS after the good and bad-I'm not terribly dissapointed in it its worth the money-if you're a gamer i'd say get one :) :)-

P.S feminist sicken me with their hairy legs and angry "oh im so opressed" BS for every word that broad says ima beat my gf--

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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All I have to say about this article is what has this guy been smoking. The DS is a little on the heavy side, agreed. But you've got to be pretty picky to whine bout having to prop up yur elbows.
Your first impression of the DS seems to be just that. A first impression. But, After a few months I'm sure you'll realize the beauty of this thing and not the minor drawbacks. The buttons are just like the ones on the SP and, if i do say so myself, I was a little too interested in my MPH Demo to pay attention to the buttons. The screen getting scratched is also not a big deel. It's nothing a wipr from a T-Shirt cant fix.
However, I do agree with you on the fact that the sound and graphics are better than on any portable yet to date (unless you buy a screen and a bettery and a PS2 and strap 'em to yur back) The SP was intended to sell along side with this new console and sorry to say it to you but it's already fading . People like me are trading in their SP's to invest in a DS and Parents nearX-Mas and Birthdays will probly go to game ex-change, dooming SP's to the rest of their lifes to the hands of a 6 or 7 year old.
In closing I can only wondoe in aww at what othe rtricks that Nintendo has up It's sleeve for the next portable console.

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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Do not believe anything this guy says, what is he made
of straw? afraid he gonna brake his fragile arms with 275g of Nintendo
goodness, the DS weights 275g PSP 260g unless my maths is way off that
only 15g difference how does that make one more portable than the
other? Short answer it doesn’t.

size:

PSP 170mm x 74mm x 23mm that is to say the total volume of the PSP is
267 Cubic centimetres

DS: (when closed): 148.7 x 84.7 x 28.9 or 265 Cubic centimetres

So when it comes to size comparison the two systems are about the same
according to this guys logic that would make both systems anti-portable
right, with the PSP you have to consider one more factor those shiny
little UMD that are just crying out for a good scratching now if you wanna
protect them you will have to always carry them in their case, now this
just a rough idea but for one PSP UMD you would be able to carry at
least 4 DS games, so lets keep things in prospective when talking about
portability as far as I can remember DS was never said to be a carry in
you pocket system but a portable handheld one and that it is.

as a public transport commuter I like to travel with as little baggage
as possible when I say as little as I mean little to none in the past
if I didn’t have to carry a bag-pack with I didn’t but if taking my DS
with me will involve me taking a carrying case or a small bag-pack I
will be more the happy to endure those hellish 290 odd grams (including a
couple of games) of DS goodness.

On the issue of touch screen scratches once I clean mine all the marks
that look like scratches are gone and let me tell I been playing a lot
WariorWare Touched!, so unless you use the stylus like psycho you gonna
have a pretty hard time scratching it.

I don’t agree with system bashing therefore I will not go into PSP is
crap mode, but when the DS is portrayed in such misleading terms it
make you wonder what kind of simplistic mind comes up with such ludicrous
opinions, the DS has its flaws but they are far outweighed by what the
system has to offer, well one last thing don’t believe anything you
read including this humble post, get out the try the system you will not
be disappointed.

Happy Holidays everyone.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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Re: Jesse (Post 68)
Either your measurements are wrong, or you blew your math in both instances. Assuming the measurements you gave are correct, the DS is about 367 cubic centimeters, not 265. I'd assume that was just a typo, but you also got the PSP wrong. It's 289 cubic centimeters. That means the DS is about 30% larger, but it's not really a big difference.

Re: Jon Cockle (Post 24) and ancil anthropy (Post 15)
Sure, 'womyn' is a feminist spelling, but I'd have trouble describing it as 'commonly accepted' until I can get away with spelling 'women' that way during a spelling bee. The whole 'womyn', 'wymon', 'herstory' BS is the feminist equivalent of '1337 $p33|<'. It also has the same effect on about 90% of the world's population. It makes them wonder why the person using the term never learned how to spell. If someone really needs to get the male gender out of their life so thorougly that they'll replace any instance of 'his' with 'her', 'man' with 'mon', 'men' with 'myn', and 'he' with 'her' (yes, I've seen 'hero' replaced with 'herro' instead of the proper 'heroine'), they simply need to get a better grip on reality. Sure, in the past, men have dominated culture, and there were times when women were considered second-class citizens (if even that), but the feminist movement was dealt a really nasty blow with the rational portion of the population when an admittedly fringe portion of the movement came out with a study that said 95% of women in the US had been raped at some point in their life. They defined 'rape' as 'non-consensual sex', 'sex' as anything from kissing up, and 'non-consenual' as against their will, or with a man. Yep, this feminist study actually claimed that the female gender is incapable of giving informed consent when around a man. Mind you this isn't even the most extreme example of the stupidity I've seen masquerading as 'feminism', but it should allow you to understand why nobody takes you seriously when you use 'womyn'.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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i dont like the ds why? .it spouts innovation wen its not . the tapwave zodiac has touch screen and a powerful processor ergo is it innovative? is innovation about hardware or software? if its hardware then the ds loses hands down, its ugly (aesthetically) underpowered compared to its rivals (psp n-gage gizmondo tapwave zodiac) and adds nothing new apart from an extra screen . secondly it says it has compelling software , frankly it hasn't the n-gage despite its flaws has that crown. path way to glory and pocket kindgdom the latter being the first portable mmo win best portable game i think n-gage aside the psp is a better portable it beautiful and sexy its specs are compareble with this generation consoles and exceeds them in certain areas (vectoring) it will have the ability to free developers from worry if their games are to complex for the hardware and the fact the psp has a bigger cheaper storage medium is rarely mentioned ninty ds=128 psp=1.824mb also i'm a big sports fan i love playing madden and pro evo sports game depend on one thing a.i if a opponets are stupid say in football it ruins the gameplay i'll enjoy comparing pro evo on my psp to my litle bro's ninty ds since the psp is soo much more powerful it''l add to gameplay ,i'll expext psp to be far superior to the ds also i look at the ds and all i see are tired old franchises from the gba/n64 e.g pokemon/mario/zelda/yu gi oh i mean were are the orinal i.ps? psp has coded arms ,untold legends,pursuit force but ds is just peddling the same old tired nintendo stuff to round up i hate portable games being underpowered i mean i've always wondered why portable games could't give us a fuller gaming experience , i like the psp innovation interesting games on amazing hardware i like the fact that i can play games i enjoy on it like devil may cry and grandtheft auto and grand turismo 4 while nintendo give u only the option of playing kiddie games i apologize for my frankness but i feel i had to say it ,the truth that is

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I have no clue what post 70 said because it's hard to decipher the english language without periods and commas where appropriate.

Anyways, before I was 'shit on the PSP!' Now I'm very much considering buying it (due to their hack'n'slash RPG launch title, made by the company that also made Champions of Norrath and Return to Arms). Granted it's a lot of money, but I know there will be games for both the PSP and DS that I'll want to play. That game, 'Infected' on the PSP sounds really intriguing thus far... Not to mention a few other titles like Final Fantasy's 7 extension(Dirge of Cerebus?), the HnS RPG I mentioned, Infected, not to mention there will probably be an EQ MMO since it is Sony after all. It'll be some crazy nice years for 2005/2006 for portable gaming, I'll tell you that.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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I love nintendo and have always bought nintendos, like many people out there. I will make two guarantees to you all:

(1) The touch screen will not be revolutionary, it will simply become a part of many control devices - it will not change the way we think about gaming, as buttons willl prevail (like keyboards have on PDAs). It's a gimmic.

(2) The design of the console is bad - not because it is too heavy, or because of the touchscreen as such, but because of the vertical layout of the screens. Not one tech company in the world is thinking about verticlally oriented screens. Everybody else is interested in widescreen. It's more comfortable to look at - after all, our eyes are horizontally oriented - and a much better gameplaying experience, (apart from perhaps old-style vertical shoot-em-ups). Anybody who has tried to play games on a nokia will agree. It's backwards.

So the DS is going to give Nintendo its first rough ride as a handheld maker - it's too left-field to compete with the PSP. The only saving grace might be Nintendo's oldest defence of its handhelds... battery power. But up against widescreen dvd playback...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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This Ben Zackheim person is, from my point of view anyway, presenting a slightly distorted picture of how the DS works as a portable device. Maybe it's just the fact that I don't mind carrying a bag wherever I go (got to have the audio player, the games device, sometimes even the laptop) but my DS has never struck me as a big inconvenience. It certainly isn't a chore to open or close the thing, come on, that's just pushing it a bit. And you can certainly hold the thing for prolonged periods without getting a cramp, plus I play it in bed all the time. Maybe I just have abnormally strong fingers. No wonder my girlfriend's always so happy to see me.

As for the DS vs. PSP thing, well, I don't know why people fight about it so much. A short amount of time spent playing the mini-games that comes with Mario 64 DS will illustrate that this is a system which will be exceedingly rewarding, should games makers put in the requisite amount of creative effort. And the PSP? It might be another case of Sony utilising its miniaturisation chops wholesale, without any conceptual innovation, but just have a look at those Spider-Man 2 screenshots, by gum! I've never really felt like any PS2 games were must-haves for me, but now they're releasing GT4, and if the PSP truly is as capable as the PS2, then there's the potential for GT4 in going everywhere with me...I can hear my bank balance squealing in protest already.

Two revolutionary machines and a rosy future for handheld gaming, yet most people are talking as if all this is a bad thing.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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First of all , ds is maybe the best system out for handheld.Forget that psp crap , the battery life sucks! and the psp needs a case, so u cant just stick it in your pocket. The psp's screen gets smudged every minute! dang... u have toi wipe it every time ur done playing it(the whole front of the psp is the same thing!) -Battery life- can it get any worse ?!?! Before i played my friends the battery life said 97%- i played about 30- 40 min before i turned it off, my friend came turned it back on and checked the battery life and it was 63%(Already?) I do have to say though, the games that have been coming out for the ds so far a crap, except Mario ds and the upcoming Need for speed 2 ( the videos were hot) Look out for the upcoming dynasty warriors ds fans! its awesome! - april 12 2005

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