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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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....LAN parties in the basement, highly unlikely...ritualistic choir boy raping, far more likely....let the flames begin.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, in spite of the fact that many Christians (and others) assume the Narnia tales to be an allegory, C.S. Lewis stated on many ocassions that they were not. He merely wanted to write a good story (which he did, for those of you not literate enough to read any of his stuff). Along with Tolkien, he wrote some amazing fantasy literature that has captivated readers for many years. As for Narnia being "Passion of the Christ" for kids, I call BS. Nowhere near as graphic, and simply a different story. If I was making the game, I would sex it up a bit with some wicked spells and cool swordfighting (the kind with lots of 'bullet-time' effects).
As for the remarks about Mass and choir boys, come on. Everyone knows Catholics don't play video games; and from what we know of these cases, the rapings were conducted without much ritual at all. Sheesh.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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I'd be down for a church LAN party.

/free wine

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Hey Toxic Bomber, you say more about yourself than anything else when you take a tiny minority of a group and use it to portray the entire thing. I guess, based on this, than all video gamers are homicidal maniacs. Columbine taught me that. Or maybe I could say that all pop stars molest little boys, as Michael Jackson has shown me.

Honestly, you need to grow up. Loser.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, the Narnia stories have far more mature themes than the Passion of the Christ. I don't mean mature like blood and boobs, but rather mature ideas.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Lewis may have rejected the idea of Allegory (as did most of the members of his club, like some unknown name of Tolkien), it's hard to accept that at face value, given evidence of stuff like The Screwtape Letters.

Which isn't to say that Narnia isn't a ripping good yarn...just that I think it's hard to dissociate that stuff from the author. I don't think he was trying to create an allegory...but Aslan sure as hell looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, if you take my meaning.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Jesus was a duck?

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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I heard that there was a bet between Tolken and Lewis about who could write the most successful story using the concepts behind the story of Christ. Thus, how both the Lord of the Ring and the Chronicles of Narnia could be considered an alegory and yet Lewis and Tolken both deny it as such. I guess it's what you take into it that makes it seem a certain way. I could be wrong though...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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@Tony-#4
Your absolutely right, i am a loser becasue what i said in those two lines of text totally sums me up as a person and says everything about me there possibly is to say...

Now it seems to me you might not get that what i said before was a JOKE, so let me inform you that what i said above is called "sarcasm".

What i said before about the "ritual" was meant to be a joke, plain and simple. Now lets take a look at the joke and break it down for you so you can see i was not really labeling any "minorities", just making a point albeit in a very tasteless manner.

Me - "....LAN parties in the basement, highly unlikely"

That line speaks for itself really. LAN parties in a church basment are very unlikely, especially in Catholic churches. Trust me on that one because i was Catholic (thankfully not involved in any "rituals"), not Catholic anymore but thats another story.

Me - "...ritualistic choir boy raping, far more likely.."

Now this is where it gets tricky so stick with me on this...this line makes my point that it would be far more likely that an inocent kid would be raped in the basement rather then a LAN party being set-up. I wasn't saying that if you walk into any church you would find "...ritualistic choir boy raping", i was just saying that since the rapings occured very seldomly, vary rarely even, that something so rare as that was more likely to happen then a LAN party in any chruch.

Me - "..let the flames begin."

Well that one again speaks for itself, i knew that what i said was stupid and very much not called for, but i could care less about the "minority" of people it's going to incite a huge response from and care more about the people that have enough "maturity" to see that it may have been a bad joke but still a joke.

You - "I guess, based on this, than all video gamers are homicidal maniacs. Columbine taught me that. Or maybe I could say that all pop stars molest little boys, as Michael Jackson has shown me."

Yeah you could say all that but then you would be like the rest of the idiots in America that believe the choir boy rapings never happened, that KISS is the devil and that GTA is a homicidal murderer training game from Osama Bin Laden...

Take some of your own advice and grow up, even if it is just a little bit, it will do wonders for your level of maturity.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Do android priests dream of electric choir boys?

Buy yourself a sense of humor implant, along with some sarcasm upgrades, Tony. I assure you, it will make your life more pleasant, and less bitter.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Hurray for flame wars, they make everyone look grand.

Jonah, I'm pretty sure the story about the bet between Lewis and Tolkein is apocryphal. AFAIK, Tolkein expressly avoided allegory because he felt it was a lesser form of storytelling. Lewis also avoided allegory, to the extent that in a true allegory characters represent abstract ideas. Lewis had no problem admitting that he was retelling general stories from the Bible, while Tolkein took a very different path that allowed him to follow his own passions for myth and languages. See the Silmarillion for more on this.

Will the games be lauded from the pulpit? It all depends on the storyline and goals of the game. It's hard to imagine a video game getting the media attention of a movie like The Passion, especially considering the original story and Lewis's intended audience. Not that adults can't enjoy the Narnia series. But giving the game and movie mass-market appeal is a little hard for me to imagine, working just from Lewis's text. Though I'm all for a side-quest to win more Turkish Delight.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Flame wars are half the fun of the internet.
Given all these comparisons to the Passion, maybe they're going to amp up the slaughter of Aslan a few notches. After all, disturbingly graphic portrayals of violence didn't seem to keep the majority of Christians away from the Jesus Chainsaw Massacare.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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I'm actually excited for the chronicles of Narnia to come out in theaters and the game doesn't look too bad either. Especialy if you really CAN win more Turkish delite. Mmmmm lol That and I think Aslan's a sexy Mo Fo. ^__- Definately deserves his time on the big screen and in the video game. Too bad their not doing the voyage of the dawn treader. I'd play XXX games with prince Caspian any day. LOL j/k

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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i dont care what lewis intended, the chronicles turned out, on several occasions, to be a christian allegory, that said, i'm an athiest, and i read all seven books when i was 17 and able to pick up on all of the hidden christianity, nut despite my lack of faith, and the Chronicles' blatant displays of it, i still must say this is one of the best stories i've read.

personally, i think they will play down the religious allusions in both the movie and the game, but the lion, the witch and the wordrobe was possibly the least allegorical of the series.

as for catholics, i love making fun of them, them and the french... and mormons... and celebritys... oh hell, i just like making fun of people. and as for tony, he needs to worry more about the likes of the people at anus.com who request pictures of church burnings, they could really use some help(no, not burning churches...).

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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If you don't mind, we'd like the help burning SOME churches and synagogues, and slaughtering stupid people. That's all we really care about - killing the dumb. If all Christians were like Meister Eckhardt, what the heck would the problem be?


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