Nintendo Revolution will not be televised at E3

by Ben Zackheim { Apr 19th 2005 at 5:25AM }

Nintendo DS If the story is true, we'll have one less console to cover at E3 this year. According to Eurogamer the Nintendo Revolution won't put up its dukes at E3, as expected. The "official" line is that the device has so many innovations that Nintendo is afraid its competitors will steal the ideas. I don't know — do you buy that?

Nintendo will, instead, show off their online initiative, with the DS taking center stage. There are also promises of new details on the Revolution, including how online play will be utilized.

Mind you, we're not sure if this is the final word on the topic, so stay tuned…

Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)

Justin @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I actually think that nintendo is Valid for not showing it at e3, Then again, I just want DS online.

someone @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Its quite possible, because the ps3 and the xbox 2 will be taking a huge chunk of the limelight and Nintendo may release details later so that peopel have had time to get over the ps3 and xbox2, which will essentially be pretty similar consoles at the end of the day, wont they?
But as for it being so revolutionary people will steal it, that's nonsense. The ps3 and xbox2 designs have already been finalised, sony or microsoft arn't suddenly going to change everything to copy Nintendo.

And if it is really THAT revolutionary third party developers wont release multi-format games on it, which means it will die.

Esmail @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Here are some Nintendo comments:
1. "Nintendo is paving a new road with new adventures on the horizon rather than accelerating down the same old path. You may consider this to be a risk, and you're probably not alone"
2. "We realize that things such as having a strong software line-up at launch is critical to the success of Revolution."
3. "One thing the GameCube taught us is the importance of pleasing as many different types of gamers in the market as possible."
4. "The games will be unique, innovative, and one-of-a-kind experiences you won't find on any other system. At E3 and after, you'll hear a lot more about this new area, so stay tuned!"
5. "The number of buttons on Joypads has been increasing steadily in recent years, for instance."
6. "We have a number of candidates for a new interface but are not ready to reveal them."
7. "We realize a few of our competitors are already thinking of following us on this, so it will not be a defining feature of the new console. We may or may not use the microphone in the new [Nintendo Revolution] interface."
8. "A year or two from now, it will be interesting to know who ultimately made the right choices. I'm confident we have made the right decisions."
9. "It's important not only to have the right timing of when the hardware is going to be released but also when we are going to be able to introduce quality software."
10. "And hopefully, a number of adventures they could have never imagined before they saw it play on a Nintendo system."

From looking at these 10 comments, which were made in the past 2 months, I think, IMHO, that most of the show will be:
1. how the games are played (including online play)
2. third-party support

the absence of Revolution itself will highly be true, i guess. besides, Nintendo doesn't respond to rumors so they won't say that much about this issue.

G. Freeman @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I feel good about a company that would make the above statements. Unlike the schlock tossed around by Sony and Microsoft, it sounds like Nintendo cares about the games, not about Micropayments or about developing another platform on which to sell you movies AGAIN!

Also, with Sony's record of quality control and lies, I won't be picking up another Sony product again, EVER. They may as well not even show up to E3.

David Camerond @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I would expect game footage and/or Tech Demos. From what Nintendo has been saying about Revolution, it doesn't sound like they have the hardware design locked down yet.

I am hoping for a Spaceworld 2005. It has been to long.

epthegeek @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

It's a shame that Nintendo's recent history of 'innovative' ideas are just gimmicky crap that is fun for a little while and then not worth it at all.

The Virtual Boy being the extreme example of "WTF were you thinking?!" to the DS continuing the idea, just not such a crazy way. Sure, the touch screen is nifty and all, but so far it hasn't really been put to any great use; and it wasn't a worthwhile trade off for the screen beauty and power of the PSP. Playing Ridge Racer by 'drawing' your turns to make a steering wheel move is gimmicky. Sure, there may eventually be games that make great use of the touch screen as an important if not indespensible part of the gameplay that really makes the system seem like a worthwhile idea; but they should have started with at least 3 titles like that. Instead we got zero.

So, if "Revolution" has the same kind of 'innovation' that the DS does (meaning gimmicky crap), then I for one don't really care.

Blue Balloon @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I want DS online, too! ^_^

DarkMavis @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

You know, maybe it's the other way around. I love Nintendo but it's pretty clear that they made a number of mistakes with the 'cube. Maybe Nintendo is waiting for E3 to "borrow" some ideas from Microsoft and Nintendo. If not borrow, maybe enhance their offering to one-up the competition.

I agree that some of the Nintendo ideas can get a bit gimmicky and I hope they don't screw up the Revolution.

Anyway... I hope for the best for Nintendo. The fact is, if Nintendo's console sucks, I probably won't be buying a next-gen console at all. I'll probably just wait for the next gameboy. Unless that sucks as well.

DarkMavis @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Sorry... I meant "borrow" some ideas from Microsoft and Sony. Not Microsoft and Nintendo.

someone @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I don't think so. We all know that Microsoft and Sony's new consoles will have great graphics and good online capabilites. If they have anything more than that (besdies stuff like DVD/UMD/MP3 playback etc) then I'll eat my red and white Nintendo hat.

I think it's basically all about creating the hype. But people DO copy Nintendo, you only need to look at how many cell-shaded games came out directly after Wind Waker to see that.

e t waits @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I see the word 'gimmicky' thrown around a lot in reference to the DS and Nintendo in general... it makes me wonder how some people passed tenth grade english.
According to the OED, gimmicky means 'innovative.' Just figured I'd throw that out there.

Clint @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Nintendo isn't what it used to be. They are stuck in the past. How much more Pokeman and Mario can they make before someone finally realizes they already played that crap before? If they are so innovative why are they releasing the same games over and over?

Ken Kutaragi @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

PS3 hasn't been made yet.

What Nintendo needs to do is show some real-time footage of what Revolution is capable of graphically. Then, when they have established that it can hold its own against the other consoles, they can drop the 'revolutionary' part of it at a later date.

I'd rather them not fill me with hype which leads to dissapointment like Sony did with the PSP.

SetupWeasel @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

More unsubstantiated Nintendo rumors reported as fact. I see nothing in the eurogamer article that is an official announcement from Nintendo. The last thing a Nintendo exec actually said is that the Revolution would be at E3 in some form, but would not be its "coming out party."

Now I will get to read the onslaught of comments on every forum about how stupid Nintendo is for announcing this. It's just like the new Game Boy rumor all over again.

Matt @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I guess #11 didn't know what gimmicky meant, and looked it up and found the one definition that made it look good. How about this definition of the word: "A significant feature that is obscured, misrepresented, or not readily evident; a catch." Or how about using the word "gimmicked", which sounds about right to me: "To add gimmicks to; clutter with gadgets or attention-getting details." I think we all know what the popular understanding and use of the word gimmick is, and that it is not often used in a positive light, so why would you bother posting something so mindless?

MrTroy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Yes Nintendo isn't innovative because they use the same characters over and over again. No other company in the WORLD ever does that... Please note my sarcasim is making my head hurt. I'm sick of people opening their mouths to say crap like that. People ask for it. People want to see Mario playing Golf... or baseball... or else you know what? Nintendo wouldn't make it.

Now what of Sony's first party characters last beyond a 4 game series? Ah now think of how many games are on PS2 that look exactly the same with a different story and character set. Yeah Sony's real innovative.... Better graphics doesn't mean innovative.

I'm willing to bet Nintendo will end up being the only one of the 3 at least TRYING to bring something new to the plate, instead of seasoning the same thing we ate last year.

Now for my next rant...

If Nintendo did in fact say that. I'm willing to say, they just aren't prepared enough. I'm not going to even consider buying something I know nothing about. Will any of the 3 have something people can hold and play at E3,I dunno. We'll have to wait and see.

Even though the Nintendo DS going online is a big deal to some... it's not to me. Honestly enough after playing with my DS for a while, I'm glad to say it does in fact suck as much as I thought it would. It going online can only be cool if the software actually supports it.

Hey! I can go Online with my Gamecube............ See how pointless that is? :(

Jason Lynx @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Hopefully they won't deviate too much with the Revolution. When I first saw the DS... I thought it was a piece of crap. I played it and I still do. Just because Nintendo creates a new "control scheme" to play games doesn't mean its the best way. In fact the touch screen on the DS can take the fun out and add more work. And no 3D stick?!? What?!? But I like the GameCube... the games are well made... if only it had better online capabilities.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Setup, as ever, well said.

The Revolution. Nintendo are an awesome company, the best in the industry - however like Sony and Microsoft they aren't perfect. Mistakes have been made with the GC, anyone with knowledge knows that it was a "test" console by Yamauchi and this was sadly not a huge success. Now there's the new life in the company, the youth and (huge) talent of Iwata - a man who has seriously changed Nintendo in his time and who will continue to change them for the better.

His GDC keynote was hugely inspirational me (as a games student) and for anyone who isn't completely blinded by bias, and if he as a games developer and gamer is telling me that the revolution will be just that then he has my money - personally I can't wait. Heck just look at the past, the NES, the N64, the GB and now the DS - all of which were huge advances within the industry.

As for the throw away comments about the DS being gimmicky, well your entitled to an opinion and all that but quite simply your wrong and clutching at straws - it is a massively innovative system, fact.

Useful_Arts @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Wasn't this the same thing they said about Mario's water spraying backpack? Which was of course uber revolutionary, and then totally ripped off by everyone.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

No, Nintendo certainly never claimed that or even suggested that - heck Miyamoto never even directed the game.

Matt @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

It's a massively innovative system? I will accept the fact that it's innovative, because innovative simply means something that hasnt been done before. Using the word massive to describe it's innovation is unbelievably laughable. The touchscreen has been around for a long time, and having 2 screens is, for lack of a better term, not that useful. The system feigns revolution and falls behind in so many ways. If you like the system, thats fine. Some people will enjoy what it has to offer, but lets not call it massively innovative. I would reserve that expression for something that changes lives, not something that adds on pointless frills to a portable gaming device and pretends to change gaming.

BTW, I have no allegiance to any company. I simply buy a system if its worth my money. I don't find the DS to be worth it.

ione @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Although I am doubting whether or not can Nintendo really revolutionize the way we play (or control, whichever is more fitting) videogames, if they really have developed something that no-one thought about before, it would be a good decision to keep it under wraps until competing companies have no chance of copying their innovation before next-gen consoles are released. However, looking at their recent history I cannot be sure that Nintendo will deliver anything significantly new... I really, really hope I'm wrong.

Anyway, about his copying innovations thing, it happened to Nintendo before - and the most annoying thing for the big N must be the fact that those who copied Nintendo's ideas actually developed them further.
The most glaring example would be N64's analog stick, which is infamous for becoming loose and losing sensitivity, while Sony's DualShock had near-perfect analog sticks, both in terms of control and durability.
Also a N64-based innovation (at least in console world), the Rumble Pak was bulky, took up a memory card slot and needed batteries (although it was possible to modify the official Rumble Pak to work without them). Like the analog stick, the rumble feature was also copied and perfected in DualShock. Setting aside the shape/comfort issue, I think most Nintendo fanboys like me would agree on the fact that PlayStation's DualShock was technologically superior to N64's controller.

I personally think Nintendo's revolution, a new way of controlling videogames, is a gyroscope controller (there have been rumors about this for a long time). As far as I know, a gyroscope (unlike traditional motion sensors) senses all directions and acceleration of the movement. Basically it should be possible to tilt, point and turn the controller and it would sense everything - imagine playing a Star Wars game, controlling the lightsaber just like a real (well, as real as it can be) one! Also, precise aiming in first-person shooters would finally be possible on a console without keyboard/mouse-combo.

Those were just two possibilities, and I can only imagine (and drool) over possibilities of a new Pilotwings game played with a gyro-controller. With next-gen graphics, it would be as close to the real thing as it can get. I actually know of custom-built hang glider simulator based on Pilotwings 64 (they interfaced a real glider to the N64), and with Revolution's graphics capabilities it woud be perfect... but I digress.

I just hope Nintendo will not screw up and introduce another Virtual Boy (or to a lesser extent, Mario's waterjet backpack). In this age of boring sequels and age-old control methods they have a real chance to create something new and interesting.

Matthew @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Nintendo has never said the Sunshine was revolutionary. They've always said it was more evolutionary. Anyway, a game that I really think take amazing advantage of the DS, is Nintendogs. I'm very interested in Nintendo's new approach, because frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of playing games that make me feel like I've already played them a million times. I'm craving for something new, or videogames are bye bye for me.

Bud @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Frankly, I love Nintendo.
But even though a lot of their sound bites sound encouraging - they are still just a company - I generally assume that everything they say is complete PR crap just like all businesses.

I enjoy the gamecube immensely; some of the games and the controller are excellent. The number of games available and lack of online are a couple of the most obvious of its several problems. It's basically a slightly better repeat of the N64 story, without all the great games from Rare.

Here's hoping for the best from the Revolution.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Matt, fair point "massively" was a poor choice of words - rushed post and all, just wanting to put some emphasis on the fact it IS innovative.

However more throw away words like "pointless thrills" are just as idiotic as calling it "gimmicky". I'll admit we've yet to see the best of it, but anyone reading this has the resources to look at forthcoming games and see the system is going to shine. The two screen mechanic while not as important as the new interface (touch screen) is still going to have the odd standout game, bomberman for one or a C&C game if it happens. And finally the DS has allowed a portable gaming platform to deliver very good FPS control mechanics, which does seriously change the way we play - sounds like it's changing the handheld market to me!

And on lesser, and more just my opinion, the touch screen control is better than analogue stick control - that is after the very short time it takes to adopt to, took me 5 mins on Mario.

Jason Lynx @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I bet you no other company will copy the DS. Especially not the industrial design!

PrettyObvious @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Why would a company want to copy the DS? The design is extremely ugly. Touch screen is innovative but really, Its a kiddie machine. Its nice to see that Nintendo still has its fanboys cause I dont want to see them go, however they dont appear to be making good business decisions as of late. If they plan on pulling a no show at E3 this will put them in the same position they are now in this console race. 3rd place. I loved the Xbox, and its games and hardware are obviously alot better then on PS2. Sony still sold more, they had the jump and a one year sales lead. In this race I can easily see the same thing happening to Sony in reverse. Nintendo needs to smarten up, they have already lost a major portion of its mature fanbase with the GC. And for the first time ever their in danger of losing handhelds sales to the PSP (they are slowly already). They are already losing third party support as it is, 2 examples off the top of my head were Espn no longer making GC titles and Capcom developing Resident Evil 4 for PS2 (so much for exclusive). If a DS like innovation is what to be expected from the Revolution this may be the last call for a Nintendo console.

SetupWeasel @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

I pray every night that I fail as badly as Nintendo has.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

So do I SetupWeasel, so do I ;-)

PrettyObvious - I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's pretty obvious you know nothing about the industry!

You calling the DS "kiddie" is just ignorance at its purest level, have you not seen the actual facts that the DS is not kiddie - the massive 59% of users in Japan that are over 19. And I know when I was 16, all those years ago, I certainly never considered myself a "kid" - so that could put the non-kiddie user base in very high percentages.

The DS is not kiddie, fact.

And finally, in terms of Nintendo's next home console, I personally think we'll be seeing a more powerful console than the others and a great launch list of games to go with it.

Think about it, they have the upper hand here with a slightly later release meaning more time to bump up "Hollywood" and "Broadway" (The CPU & GPU) which in themselves hint at massively powerful specs - personally I think the big N put up a massive smoke screen with the recent comments. And additionally Nintendo and Iwata have commented on the need for very strong launch schedule, so we'll be getting that hopefully. This could be very interesting.

Matt @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

It's hard to watch people be blinded by their unwavering support for a company. It's a company. They want your money. That's all they care about. Why do you care about defending them and sounding ridiculous in the process? I'll never understand this. Why not just buy the product that is best and let it speak for itself?

People have bad things to say about Nintendo because they do not feel that Nintendo is making a good product. If the product was so great, it would be difficult to insult, and it would therefore be unnecessary to defend the COMPANY. Remember... they just want your hard earned dollars. They aren't philanthropists.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Matt, copied and pasted from the other post with slight expansion.

Nintendo fans, and this is important here "fans" not "fanboys", have to "defend" Nintendo because idiots falsely claim the DS to be "crap" or a "failure".

If these idiots didn't post such comments we (as gamers) wouldn't have to "defend" Nintendo. If someone calls the PS2 "crap" I'll defend that as well because the PS2 like the DS isn't crap - we as Nintendo fans and gamers aren't actually hugely biased unlike the idiots we are responding to. Yes I'm a Nintendo fan, but I'm also a gamer that has owned virtually every system in creation and it sickens me, it really does, when the ignorant fans claim such innacuracys against a VERY good company. True one that is out to make money but they actually are in it for more, just listen to Iwata's keyote - as a games student at Uni it really was inspirational!

So anyway we are defending Nintendo for a reason, I'm sure if someone called your favourite console of the three "crap" you'd be defending it as strongly!?

Bud @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Like I said before, I love Nintendo, but look at this quote from one of the previous commenters supporting them:

"And additionally Nintendo and Iwata have commented on the need for very strong launch schedule, so we'll be getting that hopefully."

Isn't this the same corporate speak Nintendo gave us with N64 and Gamecube? They failed to deliver on both counts previously, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. In fact, I don't take any of their announcements seriously anymore. The only good Nintendo statements came from the fake Wired article.

Hydro @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Just ask your self this, in the world wide market which system/company is in last place? and there is your answer ofwhich company puts out the weakest products.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Great take a quote from me and miss the most important word out, hopefully.

Iwata is all about changing mistakes made by Yamauchi and hopefully (yep there it is again, pay attention kids) he'll do it. Developers have kits as we speak and if the Revo is going to take a bit longer, i.e. a year, then that's plenty of time for the close developers to make exclusive content and 3rd party's to port the generic Fifa's etc when they are "let in", in time for launch.

It's all wishful thinking, but I never listened to Yamauchi for a second, but so far Iwata's words have been honest and until that changes I'll listen to what he says.

Thus said if the Revo launches with just Luigi's Manshion 2 and Fifa I'll be far from happy.

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

#33 "Just ask your self this, in the world wide market which system/company is in last place? and there is your answer ofwhich company puts out the weakest products."

OK lets do that.

#1 - Nintendo
#2 - Sony
#3 - Microsoft

Bingo we have a winner, and indeed a loser. Though I'd disagree with such a route for determining such an outcome - I prefer looking at the specific Hardware, what it does and the fully first party IP and franchises from Software. Maybe you want profit instead, which is far more important than market share, and again Nintendo are the strongest company.

Hydro @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

well its doesnt matter how good or how revolutionary your hardware is. if you dont have 3rd party support to take advantage of those feature, they are pointless. case in point, N46 and gamecube have no 3rd party support and every time nintendo has said that system will be revolutionary. now nintendo is # three and they are trying to fight an up hill battle. dont get me wrong, i love zelda, i love resident evil 4 and i love metroid. but if thats all a nintendo system can offer then i wont buy it and niether will anyone else.

Hydro @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

if nintendo loses this console war too, do you think they will pull a sega move and just develope games for other systems?

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Quite simply no.

And let's put things in perspective here:

GC finally went behind xbox thanks to Halo 2, and that's been by a meager 0.5 Million - they aren't exactlty getting thumped and indeed something like zelda still has the *chance* of taking second again.

Nintendo are the most profitable company, so why would they "do a sega"?

Sega pulled from the Hardware business as they were (sadly) losing vast net profits, and (sadly) Dreamcasts just weren't selling.

Nintendo are rapidly gaining net profit every year, indeed this year will record a bigger operating profit than any other company - even Sony or EA. Additionally Cube's are still selling at a decent level.

So with a rapidly growing bank balance of Billions ($) and another 762 Million just banked (roughly, awaiting 26th May) from the last fiscal year - which is more than any other company - why would they want to pull out, that would be insane.

Nintendo make so much money from their own games, they dont care about PS2's larger sales, Sony make little off the games with the bulk of profit going to the developer whereas Nintendo spend the cash making a game and in return secure extremely larger paybacks - That's the economics of Nintendo, and if you aren't used to it by now, you've been naive.

Thankfully listening to Nintendo anti-fans and their claims of Nintedo's demise exposes them as the unintelligent or ignorant commenters that they clearly are - Nintendo HQ is the safest HQ in the industry at this time (well along with EA).

Hydro @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

im not a nintendo hater, i like zelda and the resident evils and the metroids. but thats as far as its gonna go. i bought a nintendo Q from japan thinking they where going to release top notch titles and here i sit only owning resident evil 0,1, and 4, zelda, metroid 1 and 2, super smash brothers and soul calibur 2. i like nintendo but if i buy 4 to 5 times as many games on 2 other systems then they are not putting up the numbers. regardless if they make more money per game sold, if they dont sell many games then you really are not making that much money

Geez @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Hydro, I'll admit I'm slightly drunk as I type this (yeah it's 23:00 here) but you've missed out on a fair bit mate - there's more to Nintendo than that. I'm also a fellow (huge) RE fan, as you seem to be.

Take my advice and buy F-Zero, Eternal Darkness, Rouge Squadron II, Ikaruga, 1080, Tales of Symphonia and Viewtiful Joe for starters (though I could easily list more if you want). Then get games like Geist and Killer 7 that are out very soon, and even consider Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker - I may be old but I can appreciate an awesome computer game when I see one even if it's "colourful" or "kiddie" (if people are being ignorant). WW and Sunshine two of the finest Adventure or Platformer games you can find. Awesomely coded and damn good fun while they last - and you can pick up all mentioned titles for less than half price now, have fun.

Bud @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Geez, I didn't intend to take your statement too far out of context. I also agree that Nintendo's business position is pretty strong - I'm more worried about the things that effect me - system and game quality and longevity.

I hope you're right about Iwata.

themissinglint @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

If Nintendo makes most of it's money from releasing its own games, it has great incentive to drop the hardware- a greater potential market. But Nintendo still has pride, it would only stop producing if it absolutly had to.

themissinglint @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Innovation: Nintendo's innovation goes back notably further than 64. NES created the modern controller layout; SNES had the first finger triggers; yes, 64 had the first joysticks. Each of these is comprable to the change to a touch-screen (at least what NES did).

GameCube is the least innovative of all of nintendo's systems to date, and the least popular. Nintendo wants to again become a trend-setter: they want a new control system cool enough that it will change game designs, forcing Sony and Micro to conform to Nintendo standards, the way it used to be.

The problem is the modern cost of game development. Back in NES days anyone could whip up a new cartrige game. Now producing a quality game takes a huge investment and at least a year. That makes 3rd parties afraid of change, and the time difference will keep the revolution from completely sinking anything. Also, most games are now built from existing engines, or at least canibalize lots of old code. Being innovative was easier before we had decades of tradition in gaming.

But that allows Nintendo to tap the reserve of computer games. If Rev has controls anything like DS, it could capture a huge number of PC ports, sequels, and derrivitives.

nintendofanatic @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

Look. Before I start, let's just say i hate microsoft. I like psp and ds and none over the other. I think microsoft should keep out of the game industry and keep making computers. I think that sony and nintendo should set aside their differences and merge or something. I mean psp has the internet on it. wow. then nintendo says whoa we're gonna get internet on our ds and make a whole browser. then sony says they're gonna improve. All it is is a power struggle.

the non biased guy @ Dec 18th 2005 8:44PM

PS3... sounds like a new playstation, (As always). Maybe it will deliver a slight improvement in graphics, but nothing I haven't already seen. I actually saw the x-box 360 in a gamestop and lemme say that I was literally stunned by it's graphics. That's revolution's real competition, not sony. Sony is an old dog, and you know what they say about teaching old dogs new tricks. I'm not particularly excited with the coming of the PS3. I want online capability. My dad said he would buy me a PS3, I'm really not too happy, possibly because I became a "tendo" fan-boy. Hey if revolution can change the way we play games, I say, "BRING IT ON!" Even though I'm a tendo fan, I'll say the the DS is crap in some aspects. I will love the DS games to death, but they have to get with the times. They should release all their 2-d games on their gba, not the ds. They plan to release a new superstar saga and even though I have dreams of owning that game, enough is enough nintendo. Give us 3-d games. I personally am excited about the online capabilities of mario kart and have already researched on how I could connect the ds to my p.c. The revolution might deliver, due to it's extremely delayed release. I say, leave it up to time. If the rev is a hit, word spreads, and magic happens.