How much is too much?
This piece was inspired by the
Gamasutra piece earlier, which got me thinking. How many
games have you actually completed in the last year? If you answer that, then you have to answer the follow on question,
which is how many did you buy and NOT complete in the same time period?
The software industry has overtaken the movie industry. More and more products pour onto the shelves every week. Is
there even any point in trying to keep up anymore? We're drowning in a sea of games, and while that's a hugely
enjoyable way to go, have we lost sight of the real experience of gaming? (More after the break).
I can tell you the last game I played to completion. It was Paul Woakes Mercenary. This was in 1987. I received it
for my birthday, and put it on the shelf, completed, two weeks later, having spent every waking moment when not at
school submersed in Woakes marvelous creation. There may have been others since then, but I don’t remember them if
there were. Being a games junkie means I like to keep up with what’s new, and to do that, older titles have to take a
back seat. Sadly, they rarely fight their way to the front again.
With so many titles competing for your time these days, if you want variety of gameplay, you
have
to, realistically, sacrifice your completion
percentage. Case in point: I played Burnout 3 obsessively. Then Grand Theft Auto San Andreas came along. I played that
to a certain point, then Mercenaries came along. I focused on that, neglecting GTA:SA. After a few addicted weeks with
Mercenaries, it was on to something else, then something else… Then the biggest time vacuum of all, Gran Turismo 4
arrived, and that has taken up mostly permanent residence in my PS2, except for the occasional baseball game. Since GT4
arrived there’s been Gods of War, Dynasty Warriors 5… It’s only my hardcore passion for racing that has kept me from
fleeing GT4. In short, if I’m to stand any hope of finishing Gran Turismo, I’m having to avoid the seductive gaze of
other titles. Of course, a big part of the problem is the way I play games. For many gamers, the prize is all that
matters, and they must get there as quickly as possible. For me, however, the journey is the bigger part of the fun.
Sure, in Mercs I could have gone straight from A, to B, to C. However, I’d be missing out on the simple pleasures of,
for example, repeatedly driving my jeep off a cliff, or seeing how many times in a row I can successfully snipe before
I miss. To use a Starcraft analogy, it’s the difference between winning via a Zergling rush, and keeping the game going
long enough to send a horde of Ultralisks to do your bidding. One may show your tactical prowess, but the other is a
lot more fun.
The following questions are aimed at the folks who have families and/or other responsibilities. Basically, those whose
gaming time is limited by their circumstances.
If you want to experience the vast cornucopia of titles out there, and not just focus on one particular genre, or even
franchise in some cases, is playing a game to completion even feasible anymore? I know that by the time I get to 100%
in GT4, a lot of titles would pass me by. Titles
which, as a passionate gamer, I can’t pass up. Those titles, in turn,
will have to fight for attention against others, and so on. Does length of gameplay mean a damn thing anymore, when a
sizeable chunk of people won’t complete the thing anyway?
If you focus exclusively on maybe six titles or less a year, do you still consider yourself a hardcore gamer, despite
sampling only a very tiny fraction of what the gaming universe has to offer? If you’re someone who checks out as many
titles as possible, do you even care if you complete a game anymore?
What it boils down to is time. Something which there’s never enough of. (Except in doctors waiting rooms. Maybe that’s
the key.) Would you rather complete a game, and play only a handful of titles every year? Or would you rather be like
The Littlest Hobo? Stick around for a little while, then just keep moving on?












Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
jason @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I've lost track of how many games I've finished, but it's a lot. I finish 90% of the games I start, and with games getting shorter all the time, this is becoming less and less of a challenge.
Sosuke @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
This past year, I completed ... Final Fantasy One, and thats it, I didn't finish Half-Life 2 or Doom 3, or any of the other games I own...
I for one would like the timeline on releases to be extended, mabye even to the size of Duke Nukem Forever, making each game epic and letting me fully enjoy the experience before moving on to the next big game release a few months or years down the road. While playing one game exclusivly I agree that you miss out on other titles, and may never 'catch-up'. Something will happen, but I don't know for sure what.
lagsalot @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I solve this problem by playing games that never end.. MMO's and FPS/Multiplayer..
Rence @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
finished:
hl2
didn't finish:
zelda minish cap
metroid fusion
gt4 (hmpf, can you blame me?)
I simply lose interest in most games after a while. If I don't finish a game in a week or two then there's a big chance I'll never finish them... most games just aren't as fun anymore.
scott @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I've finished games that aren't so open ended: god of war, ratchet and clank, return to arms, etc. i just put GTA or MERCS aside for a few weeks to do so, then go back to mindlessly driving my car off of cliffs until the next game with a light at the end of the tunnel is released.
lather, rinse, repeat.
epthegeek @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I only latch on to a few titles a year to finish, but still kick the tires on a lot. Most games are so 'meh' these days that I don't really care if I ever finish it or not.
The sly cooper games, Ratchet and Clanks, and more recently the brilliant Psychonauts are the kind of games that really hold my focus until the end. High production quality, a good story, good characters, etc.
I didn't finish the Zelda: Minish Cap, I got to the last 'fight' and gave up after 2 tries. And I long since gave up on collecting 100% of anything in games where there are such goals.
SetupWeasel @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I do not finish many games. I have a rather short attention span, and a game has to be very compelling for me to even hit the 10 hour mark. I don't think I've ever finished a game at 100% completion... Wait, I take that back. I finished the original WarioWare completely. But that was a game made for the shortest of attention spans.
It doesn't bother me. I get new games when the ones I'm playing start to bore me. I have no problem holding off on a game with a few exceptions. I don't need to complete a game to have fun with it, and I don't feel compelled to deal with any part of a game I don't like.
However I think that the industry in general recently have focused too much on depth and length to the detriment of gameplay and fun. If a game askes me to spend a lot of time in menus, I won't play it. If I need to spend 10 hours leveling up a character, those battles better be interesting and fun. The value af a game to me is how much time I spend enjoying the game. Maybe this means I'm not "harcore," but I con't care.
yoshi @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
i finished pac pix...what a perfect game, in length, innovation, etc...if all games were that exciting for that length (a few hours) and 30 bucks instead of 50, we would all be in gaming heaven
Gregg @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I have felt so guilty about buying games that I dont complete. I now feel so much better to know im not the only one.
Eric P @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
This is a great topic to discuss...I would find it interesting to know how many "gamers" complete their games. I know I don't complete many games at all....but then again, I only play a few games to start. There are plenty of games I want to complete, but I just don't have the time. At the same time, I would hate to drop 50 bucks on a game that was only 5-6 hours of gameplay - seems like a rip-off! So then you are in the dilemna of paying 50 bucks for a game you can beat quickly in a few sittings, or one that you will probably never finish, but could always pick up and play a chunk at a time. Yeah, this is a shameless plug for my shiny new blog, but I talk about related stuff here:
http://digitalstupor.blogspot.com/2005/05/instant-access-to-games-breaking.html
nbcaffeine @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I play around one new game a month (sometimes more, sometimes less), and usually finish the game if it is "finishable" in a reasonable amount of time (games like GT4 is not). So, of the say, 12 big games a year, 2 arent finishable, and I finish 8 or 9 of those. I do spend a lot of time playing games that are year or two behind the times (just finished max payne 2 again), so its really hard to judge.
Then again, i just got forza, so theres another time hole with no real endgame in sight.
victor @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
my partner and i finish most games we get. we lean more towards the platformers (sly, rachet, psychonauts) and i think they lend themselves more to trying to complete to 100%. the FPS and GTA-type games are almost too robust and kind of hard to complete without getting bored. it's also fun to switch over turns like in the old NES days (i play until i die or get to the next world, then you play until you die or get to the next world)
KD @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I've finished this year:
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario World
Zelda III-A link to the past
Zelda-Links Awakening
Almost done:
Mario 64
Zelda-Ocarina of Time
Zelda-Wind Waker
Not even close to finishing about 20 Games I've bought this year. Not because I don't want to I usually get stuck and can't get by one level.
david @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
last games finished were the resident evil trilogy and Metal Gear Solid on The PS.
After that; I really haven't been interested in finishing any of the games. I do own resident evil 0 for gamecube and mgs2 and 3 but the games just don't seem appealing to me anymore. The re-play value just isn't there for me. I do have games like tekken 5; ratchet and clank; need for speed underground; etc.....the excitement with these next gen systems seems to have disappeared. I remember playing code veronica x on the ps2; then mgs2; after about an hr. I never played them again. I enjoyed the madden series till 2003. That fun has run out too.
I need some new groundbreaking games. I am excited about the nintendo revolution having 3d features where you'd have to wear glasses. Sounds interesting and NEW!
vj @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
Finished:
Chrono Cross, FF 9, FF X-2, Shadow Hearts 2, Ys VI, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, Mario Kart GBA, Wario Ware GBA
Didn't Finish:
Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, FF: Crystal Chronicles, FF: Tactics Advance, Resident Evil 0
Still in Progress:
Shin Megami Tensei: DDS, Ridge Racers, Wipeout Pure, Lumines, Four Swords GCN
Seems like I finish most games... I usually give up on RPGs after 10 hours if it's not clicking.
RainCityTL @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
trying to balance the demands of a normal social life and being a gamer is really tough. add in other media trying to steal your time and it's damn near impossible to finish some games. My preference is for shorter, but more story rich games like Chronicles of Riddick
last ones completed: HL2, KOTOR2
still working on: Doom3, Jade Empire
haven't even opened up copies of: FightNight 2005 and NBA live 3
Fermac @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
These are the games I play:
Magic the Gathering Online
Pro Evolution Soccer 4
Bejewled 2
Finish them. I dare you...
I ordered Guild Wars. See a pattern here? Yeap. Replay value.
If you play a game for 10 hours and leave it you'll never master it. 10 hours worth of gaming is almost like watching 3 fun movies. Popcorn fun. Chewing gum. The trick is to play with friends. PES will never be an outdated game as long as you sit with 3 buddies and a six-pack.
Enjoy good movies and play good Games.
Dralt @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
Most games these days are boring. Sequels, copycats, cookie-cutter types don't excite me.
Maybe I finished 10% of the games I bought last year.
That's it.
Cedell @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I am one of those people you wrote about who have commitments. I am 23, married, recently graduated and starting my career, and planning a family. Needless to say, I don't have a lot of time to drone in front of the stupid box. However, I make sure that I continue to enjoy games and stay up on the industry because I would like a career in video games (I'm not a programmer).
To me, finishing a game is essential else I feel I have not received all the developer sent me. I feel a person should at least finish the story in the game and after that find their own stopping point because these days finishing EVERYTHING in a game can be not only time consumming but difficult (i.e. God mode in GoW). Games are made to be enjoyed and not finishing it is like not finishing your lunch.
I used to buy games just because I could or because I could not resist but I found that I still couldn't keep up. And I only bought the highest rated games. Now, I am going back to my unfinished games to get all of what I paid for. In fact, I haven't bought a game in maybe three months as I work on old titles. It is difficult to resist at times when you have triple A titles on one side of you and super cheap games on the other side. But if you are not playing a game or have beat a game, it is no more useful to you than trash. True gamers beat games and live to tell the tale. I, a man with a business degree, encourage you all to go to the piles of unbeaten games in your living room and finish them. Don't fall to the temptation of marketing and pricing. Experience games the way games were meant to be experienced.
Finished this year
Jak 2
LOTR: Two Towers
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Working on
Socom: Navy Seals
Final Fantasy VII
To Be Finished
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VIII
Charles Starrett @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
Well, since last year at this time I've started and finished:
GameCube: None
PS2: Kingdom Hearts, GT4, GTA: SA
Xbox: Halo, Halo 2, KOTOR, KOTOR 2, SoulCalibur 2, Fable, NCAA 2005 and FIFA 2005 (If you can consider sports games "finished" since dynasty modes and the like can basically going on forever.
GBA: Golden Sun, Zelda, Zelda: A link to the past
PSP: Twisted Metal: Head On, Spider-Man, Wipeout Pure, Tony Hawk Underground 2 Remix
Started and didn't finish:
GameCube: Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness
PS2: None
Xbox: NBA, NFL, NHL 2K5, Sphinx, Cabella's Dangerous Hunts
GBA: None
PSP: Lumines (again, can you actually finish this?), NFL Street 2, NFSUR
Bought and have never seen the inside of a console:
PS2: SOCOM 2
So yes, I've played and finished a lot of games over the last year, but it has taken conscious effort on my part to try and make sure not to start on a game I know will consume a large amount of time until I'm done with the last one. I'm sure the console-bias is more a by product of me buying a 50" LCD projection HDTV and therefore buying more xbox games because more of them have widescreen support.
funkonaut @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
Damn. I must be a freak.
In the past 12 months I have bought a total of 20 GBA games, 21 GCN games, and 22 PS2 games, most of them on eBay for less than $15 each. I sold 13 of them early because I found them boring. I'm still working on finishing 8 games. The rest I've finished to completion.
Usually when I get a game I play it until I finish it, then turn around and sell it on eBay for what I paid for it. Most games I can finish in a week. Others take a little longer (GTASA, FFX).
When I was younger I was all about the bleeding-edge. Now I just play games that have gotten rave reviews regardless of their age and as long as I haven't played them before. I've learned to not rush myself into the latest and greatest, else I'll be stuck with a system like the DS or PSP with no good games.
I currently have 47 games in my wishlist, so it'll be quite a while before I get around to getting a next-gen system.
Cedell @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I have also finished this year
The Urbs
GTA 3
GTA: SA
Kingdom Hearts
PRAE @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
: : : : : :
even though i own all major platform . i still only see 5 or 6
titles that are really worth purchasing each year . i play many
of the A titles . but even then i see most of those as being derrivative . or poorly designed (aesthetically speaking) .
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A. Jacobson @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
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BladeZ @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
There's so much I can write about this topic. Like another poster I have many other responsibilities. I'm 31, wife, house, kid, etc. I was and still consider myself a hardcore gamer. However, the types of games and where I play them is what's changed. I was originally going to say that my last completed game was FF7, but if you want to cound FF:TA then go ahead. It seems that I would rathe rplay quick pick up and play games (Pokemon Pinball, etc) on GBA then long epics on PC or a home console. I simply don't have the time. I've recently started trying to make time to play some console games (Burnout, Mario Golf, etc). It's hard to hold on to gaming as you get older, and this is why I probably watch zero TV shows and instead would rather play something. I have more to rant on this and will save for my blog, which isn't even designed yet, much less launched.
Dan @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
That's a lot of questions Steve...
I find it's pretty difficult to experience all the games I want to play and still finish a game. The other day I went to pick up Katamari Damacy and Devil May Cry 3 and as I looked at the store shelves I realized there were six games I wanted to get my hands on since last year that I completely forgot about.
Other entertainment does get in the way. I love college basketball and football (luckily that's over with for now). I love movies too so that takes some of my time.
And there is, of course, my full-time job.
And then there's spending time with my girlfriend, friends, and family few of which play games.
And dammit it's almost summer! Time for grilling, drinks, parties, vacations, outdoors, etc.
Gah. Not a lot of time unfortunately. Still, I do finish most of the games I buy and lately I've had a small streak beating Voodoo Vince, GTA: San Andreas (finally), Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (100% too), and Katamari Damacy (though that's short and meant to be played repeatedly).
I have a few games I haven't finished though. In a former life I wouldn't have given up if someone put a gun to my head. In college (when one could argue I had even less time) I got everything - and I mean EVERYTHING - in Tony Hawk 2 but I never finished 3. Plus somewhere along the line I lost all my patience with RPGs. I finished Fable a while back, but I couldn't stand KOTOR for more than a few hours.
Anyway, getting back to the original question, I'd say that yes, for most of us there is too much to experience in the game world. So we either have to choose whether we want to experience full games or be exposed to more titles. Perhaps we can help ourselves by picking our games wisely. Pick some games for the experience and pick others for the "arcade" play - short but infinitely replayable (or has a terrible single player but has great multiplayer). Get a good mix. That way we aren't bogged down by a huge load of epic games and break things up with short-but-sweet titles. Perhaps we should also consider whether a short game length is necessarily bad. After all, a round of Street Fighter 2 was pretty short, but we did it over and over again.
Developers could help out by making more compact games - not having a million tasks to get 100% on. Or more arcade like games that don't have steep learning curves and you don't feel bad putting down and coming back to in a few months. Or making more compelling stories and characters so you want to find out what happens in the end. Or just making more short, replayable games.
And hey, while you're at it, make those short titles cheaper so we're tempted to pick it up along with your latest 40-hour epic.
Tony @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
Time management is a tough issue that goes FAR beyond gaming.
Personally, I'm mixed on the topic. On the one hand, I tend to focus on something intently and exclusively, sometimes out of the blue. On the other hand, I try to do a ton of things at once. So, I end up starting a lot of things, getting sidetracked and totally lost in one thing, then starting the process over.
I rather focus on one or two games at a time, and play them 100% before moving on. Otherwise, if I play it a little bit, I tend to leave it go for months without noticing. I'm trying to finish Doom 3 right now and really enjoying it, but I was surprised to find my last save was 3 months old. Seemed like a few weeks.
If I leave a game go for too long, it's hard to pick back up again... and I don't like starting over. I play the classics and older games I never played the first time around regularly however.
My advice, make a list you want to play. Play it in order, one at a time. Don't give in to hype about new games, if you can't play them for very long then they weren't worth it to begin with. If a game doesn't hold your interest, save the time, cut your losses, and move on.
Brian Bethel @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I buy a whole lot of games these days because i have the disposable income to do so. However, the number of games I actually complete is abysmal.
I tend to progress really far in games, then get something new and forget about them. Then a few months later I'll think about some of my old titles and play them a bit.
So far, since 2005 started, I've only finished Chronicles of Riddick on the PC. Short, I know, but it was a really fun ride while it lasted. I'm within inches of finishing the original Call of Duty, which has been languishing on my hard drive for some time. Doom 3 bores me to no end, so the other day I just put it on god mode to try to progress some through the storyline. For some reason Far Cry leaves me cold as well, although I do plan to finish HL2 soon.
I've played Rome: Total War a grand total of twice. I know it's supposed to be a great game, but I haven't had the time to even get into it enough to form my own opinions. I play WoW a lot, but I don't know if I'll ever see that mystical level 60.
The new Pirates! was fun for week or two, but it certainly didn't capture my attention like it would have if I was playing it on my long-gone and much-lamented Commodore 64.
I was playing through Vampire: Bloodlines with the intent to finish it, but some weird technical glitch manifested halfway through that prevented me from running the game without crashing. The patch didn't help. So I saved my saved games, but it's unfinished. Morrowind and its expansions also lie unfinished on my hard drive.
I'd love to play through KOTOR2 on the PC, but haven't picked it up. Same for Psychonauts. On my X-Box, I would like to grab Jade Empire and still have Halo 2, which I'd like to play through and complete before XB360 hits, as well as Wipeout Pure, Ridge Racer, Lumines and BOTB on my PSP.
So yes, I have no shortage of games to play. The problem is time. With a wife and a life, I can't spend hours staring at a screen anymore, although my income level now permits me to buy pretty much whatever I want whenever I want it.
Most recently, I started Guild Wars. I like it, but chances are it'll probably fade in time as well.
It's really frustrating to think about it, because it does represent a significant investment of time and money -- including the kickass PC necessary to run all this stuff smoothly.
Brian
Dralt @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
#17
If I put a piece of sh*&$t in your plate, will you finish your lunch?
I am sorry, but the video game industry has it too easy these days.
These guys are making billions in profits producing sequels, copycats, rushed out, creativity-free games.
As a true gamer, it is your duty to be very demanding when it comes to those games you spent your hard-earned money on.
If you cherish every lame piece of code they spit your way, you encourage the industry to keep on producing crappy games.
So, if a game grabs me, I finish it, talk about it, praise it and tell my friends to buy it.
If I get bored after 2 hours of game play, I stop playing it, sell it and badmouth its developer and publisher at any occasion.
This attitude is harsh, but it's the only way to force the industry to respect those who afford them a living.
PCC_Nate_Dogg @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I take a completely different view to it. I would say that in my life I have completed at least 95% of all the games I have ever played. I am also an avid renter. Now let me stress something. I complete the game. I don't necassarily get a 100%. I don't even do that to the games that I own.
In the last year I completed: HL2, Halo 2, Doom 3, Vampire Masuarade, Hitman Contracts, Thief3, (I know - I like FPS) Devil may cry 3, Rise of Kasai, MOH Pacific Assault, ... and on and on and on.
See many of the rentals I can beat in the space of 2-3 nights. (It probably helps that I have trouble sleeping a lot) I also feel like I can't leave a game until I see the ending cinamatic. I need the closure. (Yes - George has been killing me for 3 decades) Also there is the fact that many times the game gets transformed in the last 20 minutes of the game. The real probleem is that there just aren't the epics like there used to be. I can remember games like FF7 and the Zelda on the NES taking forever. I honestly can't remember a game that has taken me that long in the recent years.
Also that 5% that is left usually constitutes 1 of 3 problems.
1 - Hit a bug that would cause me to restart.
(God Of War you are awesome but that wall should have opened too)
2 - Ridiculusly hard to beat. (Did the game designers of Rise to Honor ever actually PLAY the gun level with all of the cubicles? Rambo, T2, and Chuck Norris TOGETHER couldn't defeat that onslaught.)
3 - Not worthy of my time to finish. (Galactic Wrestling could have been programmed better by monkeys!!!)
Ryuukuro @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
This year I've finished:
Paper Mario (good, but disappointing)
Freedom Force vs The Third Reich (good, but short)
And I finally beat not only Morrowind but the expansion packs as well (but the packs were beaten thanks to some special items I made as a gift for taking down the first quest.)
I'm looking forward to beating many more games through the rest of the year!
Marhta Stuart @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I just finished Resident Evil 4, Super Mario 64 DS ( loved it. Amazing graphics. Much better than original.) and obsessively playing Polarium.
EvilHayama @ Dec 18th 2005 9:46PM
I've finished quite a few games in the last year, but I owe a lot of that to living with a gaming-obsessed GF. We tag-team some RPGs, others one plays while showing the cutscenes to the other. She also doesn't kill me if I spend a whole day playing games.
I love my girl.