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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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neat. Shnada. The interesting factor Nr. 1 is retail price for the GAMES out, period. Will they be much more expensive than PS2 and "the others" ? How much..

Graphix card. Even if running on 20 video cards the shading is still based on hardware rendering. (yadda, fractal and procedural texture mapping). It will have trouble matching Anti-aliasing, motion blurs and DoF´s. Unless it supports (and it most likely do) some sort of T-Buffering.

Although the tech available, it is still up to developers to utilize it. Which means it is not for certain that you are gonna see raytraced graphix, although inside sonys heart it is available.

But I have SEEN the demos and they ROCK!
bigtime..

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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PLASTATION IS FOR LOOSERS
WHO WANTS A DUMB PLASTATION
10 YR.OLDS NEED X-BOXS AND SO DO YOU BECAUSE BILL GATS IS NEED MORE MONY. ALSO JAPANESSE SOFTWARE SHOULD BE PLAYED BY JAPAN.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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hey... Just dont buy it if you think it sucks. stop being bithes about it

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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suck my ass sony and shut the hell up about the cell processor! it is garbage, complete garbage. Why the hell would a company who obviosly understands computing architecture create such a laggy-assed pos (48+ pipelines for both ps3 and x360 lol)oh yeah i forgot, because hardcore video gamers don't have a damn clue about what the hell makes thier console work! spu's lol what a load. Does anyone know what an spu does?! it increases the amount of steps per calculation. ie p4 architecture sucks compared to p3 but, intel makes them anyways, because they can make the clock frequency higher, so people think oh 1ghz vs. 3ghz. Stop sony from bullshitting all overthemselves again, and don't buy a ps3 if only because they have conned you into thinking it is faster than the x360 or even the rev.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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IF YOU WANT A GOOD SYSTEM GET THE XBOX 360!! PS3 IS GONNA SUCK!!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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The XBOX is one powerfull beast.Its raw power is truly awesome.
Games are just gonna be fantastic looking and playing.
Havin said that.
Take all that power of XBOX 360 and DOUBLE it.
You get a PLAYSTATION 3.
FACT.
Enough said.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Take all that power of XBOX 360 and DOUBLE it.
You get a PLAYSTATION 3.
FACT.
Enough said.

Tranzo

Yeah, you need to come in out of the sun.
Or else quit reading Sony vaporware literature.
However, you are fun to read :0
Im still wating for the PS2 Super Computer Sony promised 4 years ago...............

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, you need to come in out of the sun.
Or else quit reading Sony vaporware literature.
However, you are fun to read :0
Im still wating for the PS2 Super Computer Sony promised 4 years ago...............

RM
Well yes maybe i made an unfair all encompassing comment.The GPU's in both machines are on a par with each other on paper.Not so with CPU's though.
Read this interview with Microsoft's J Allard.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59297
He is very cagey with regards to his response's when questioned about PS3's graphics,in fact towards the end of the interview he is playing down the importance of how good games should look graphics wise.Is this not very telling? He doesnt seem to be very confident about XBOX 360's graphics capabilities compared to PS3.
Also i found it quite strange to learn that,at the E3 conference,Microsoft did not have any actual XBOX 360 tech demos or game footage running on or recorded from actual '360 hardware.All the footage was running on Apple G5 Pc's with the '360's behind glass screens only for show.
http://www.igniq.com/2005/05/apple-powering-xbox-360-demos-at-e3.html
Some more detailed PS3 facts can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3
Which is pretty fair.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Sony said the PS3 was more powerful, NO ONE else. Everyone believed it even though Sony Lie about everything.

Microsoft and ATI release some real hard Evidence that the Xbox 360 will actually out perform the PS3 and everyone thinks it's false.

You’re all mindless sheep.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Has anyone seen how in PGR3 they have modelled a whole huge chunk of New York city?

The PS3 has an out of dates architecture, Unified pipelines have been proven to perform much, much better. So you’re wrong there.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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HELLO!! THE PS3 E3 VIDEOS WERE FAKE!! I COULD GET THOSE VIDEOS ON DVD AND PLAY THEM ON MY DVD PLAYER, DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE A POWERFUL DVD PLAYER DOES IT?

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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I have seen game footage from games not shown by Sony at E3 but from the Playstation Meeting.
Realtime ingame footage controlled by the presenters.It looks fantasticly detailed,GUNNDAM for example,using only the core processor and the graphics chip.Very immpressive indeed.Millions of polygons used on one character in games like KOEI's "Ni-Oh".
Let me quote Kristan Reed from Eurogamer in his preface to Microsoft's J Allard interview:

"There are more smoke and mirrors flying around at E3 this week than you'd find at a magic forum, and the best advice to anyone getting caught up in the intense arguments is to enjoy the show but take it all with a huge pinch of salt. Because nobody really knows yet. Be excited. Be disappointed. Be cynical. But don't claim you know any better than anyone else. Even J Allard admits as much in this revealing interview, conducted less than 48 hours after Sony conducted its pre-E3 briefing and played its PS3 hand.

As ever, Allard was in knockabout form. Self effacing, always willing to actually answer the question no matter how leading it might be, and seemingly realistic enough to accept that Sony has the edge in the graphics war this time,"
From what ive been able to view of XBOX 360 game screenshots,i havent honestly been able to be immpressed by anything ive seen from XBOX 360 so far.
I have though from the many PS3 screens and videos available online.
It cant be about graphics these days though.Its going to be about gameplay and probably more importantly,online gameplay.
That is where Microsoft has the edge with XBOX 360,in fact its a very LARGE edge in comparison with what Sony's free service had to offer.
Sony though have recognised this,i dont think they are resting on their laurels in that respect.
Sony no doubt have learned lessons from Microsoft's hugely succesfull XBOX Live and if they can match that with a similar service combined with the PS3's wonderfull power,i and millions of others will im sure be very willing to PAY to access such a service from Sony.

Sorry ive lost my thread...
Interview is here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59297

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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There was an Article about that Video, nobody was impressed.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000373051414/

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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BoB

It seems you may have not fully read the text i posted regarding the GUNDAM videos available online.
I stated that the demo had been created using only the PS3's core processor and graphics chip.I didnt state however that none of the Cell's SPU's were used in this demo so my apologies.
My point i think was to state that such graphical detail could be achieved on PS3 without utilizing even a fraction of its power.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/635/635525p1.html

Let me quote the site you linked:
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000373051414/

"As well as announcing new PSP firmware, Sony used their Playstation press event in Japan today to demonstrate a playable PS3 game. The game in question is a PS3 version of “Gundam” which involves massive robots with guns in urban environments, tasty. The video of the demo looks distinctly unpolished, it’s missing smoke and any form of physical processing. Maybe the developers were waiting on the recently announced deals with third party physics companies. The still shots feel much more impressive when you consider that they’re taken from scenes of a playable game."

You will find the answer to that in my post above and also in the link to ps3 ign.com i also linked.

Your comment that no one was impressed by the demo has no basis in fact.



Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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The SPEs don't really do much though, they are nothing like having 7 Cores and this is what people think, that they are 7 cores.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Tranzo - You quoted an article that says:
"The video of the demo looks distinctly unpolished, it’s missing smoke and any form of physical processing." Hello?!?! So to make the game look "playable", they had to leave out anything that would actually tax the GPU and SPEs??? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh man that's powerful and easy to program for ... BULLSH!T!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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well guys i own a ps2 and then i got a computer and you know what i never play the ps2 again you can play the same games and go on the net you can do every thing with a computer you can up grade when you want you can't do that with a xbox or a ps2 you guys have to wait and pay more money. the time you guys buy all this crap you could have a good computer. so pull your head out of your ass and get over it fags

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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You poeple keep argueing about what is better, when all you really need to do is just STFU and WAIT UNTIL BOTH CoME OUT! you can already see that the specs of the ps3 are far better than the xbox360
SO WAIT AND STOP SAYING THE DEMOS ARE FAKE THEY MOST LIKELY ARENT SONY ISNT THAT STUPID.

END THIS HERE , JUST WAIT, THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT WHICH ONE SUCKS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PLAY IT PERSONALLY!!!!!!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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ok....they need to do one thing.......LOWER THE FREAKING PRICE!!!! like holy crap well anyway just like me and about a few other million other ppl...they'll run out to the store and buy it for the 400.00 plus tax.. iim just scared to see the price for the games :( well i really really really like the graphics and i think they made the right move on the cell procceser they put in it. and i think the ps3 will be better then the xbox360 all hands down with no hesitation or how ever u spell that word. i think the controllor will be easy to use for some odd reason the desine kinda looked werid at first then i liked it also the look of the ps3 is werid also but who cares im getting no matter what "the legal way of getting it" ;)

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Sony President Ken Kutaragi warns "It'll be expensive" and "I'm aware that with all these technologies, the PS3 can't be offered at a price that's targeted towards households. I think everyone can still buy it if they wanted to," said Kutaragi. "We're going to have to do our best in containing the price." while Kazuo Hirai claims the PS3 will not be expensive and that it will be competitively priced with the Xbox 360. Both the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 retailed for $360.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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the ps3 looks better than the 360 however thinks this ps3 does not look good Fuck U and ur a homo like ur father

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Obviously most people posting here are either:

a.) Microsoft Employees

b.) 8 year old kids who doesn't have a clue what a good gaming system is all about..

screw the console looks..I'll go for gameplay and graphics anytime - go PS3 !! the xbox is a joke

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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This is funny I love reading all the typos by the know-it-alls. I think they are both good systems and that the truth for each one lies somewhere in the middle. That being said, I being a college student who is short on money will only be able to buy one next generation console and I will definately choose the PS3. So stop bickering about which one is prettier because it's personal opinion. Best wishes to all and may the best console win.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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wtf u guys, I dont know which one sounds better , but my head is spinning from all ur fuckin comments, just wait for the damn things to come out, and try them, so just shut tfu!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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wtf u guys, I dont know which one sounds better , but my head is spinning from all ur fuckin comments, just wait for the damn things to come out, and try them, so just shut tfu!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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I fink da Xpoxfree sixty nine will b da culest cuntsole on dis earth mann. It will b so rad when I cann get wun. I luv Bill Gay-tes & Xpox & as soon as they can make enuff to that akchully wurk proprerlee, I fink I will get won. Cause I,m a Bill Gay-tes Xpox thanbouy hoo wood like to massarge Bill's penass with my lips. Us MS thanboys r sooo muck smarterer van u ps & ninbendo thanboys.

On a serious note, PS3 looks awesome, all my favourite & the greatest games will hit it as I'd expect. So as a highly likely PS3 consumer I am happy with the console design as I have a sony home theatre system thats main unit looks very similar (also go good with bose when I upgrade). The only gripe I have is that bloody controller, being from australia that may strike some as odd, as it was our indigenous wankers that invented it. But i dont give a crap, it needs to go. I want a slightly bigger dual shock 2 with six buttons on face (ala megadrive 2) & I want 2 trigger buttons underneath (ala dreamcast & xpox). Unfortunately it seems sony arent changing the control too much.... what a suck... but I wont let a shizthouse control stop me from buying it, as, if that influenced purchases, the xpox would've never sold with its original bohemith.

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