Halo 3 rumors to be taken at "face value"

by James Ransom-Wiley { Jun 21st 2005 at 3:31PM }

Halo 2 What do we do when we catch wind of some hot Halo 3 rumors? Rumors coming from a friend of a nephew whose uncle works for Bungie? You got it! We post 'em right here for you to chuckle, whine, rant, and argue over:

Dark & gritty storyline
Online co-op campaign for 2+ players
Multiplayer bot scenarios
50+ players on Live!
New editions of Zanzibar, Sidewinder & Hang Em High
Map editor
Movie editor

[Thanks, Fady]

Reader Comments (Page 1 of 9)

Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

A map editor, bot scenarios, 50+ players on live. I cannot wait. Ty for this info.

Christopher7xii @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

keyword: rumors, Dmitri. Don't get your hopes up. Honestly, why would you WANT to play a match with 50+ players, unless they added some new matchtype. With the standard CTF/Bomb/Slayer, it really wouldn't work. The 2+ co-op mode WOULD be nice though, especially if it worked over LIVE the way Splinter Cell:CT did.

vidGuy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

They'll have to do something new if they want to sell those ten million units. Sounds cool, and all those, minus the movie editor, are the obvious next step for the franchise.

Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Yea I do not completely understand the Movie Editor idea.

Smiling Politely @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

"Dark & gritty storyline"

Halo 3: The Warrior Within
Master Chief is smoldering with generic rage.

Justin Nolan @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I assume the "movie editor" would be some way of recording footage to create Red vs Blue type machinima.

It all sounds like very wishful thinking to me. Even if true, console based map editors seem pointless (think Pariah). Now if it had a PC based map editor... that would kick ass. We could actually see some really nice user created content on consoles.

Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

What about Timesplitters 3. It has a great map editor.

Conrad Quilty-Harper @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I'd seriously love a movie editor as per the Myth series. That was the best implementation of movies in any game ever. Hopefully Bungie can pull it off again.

Alex Welsh @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Is anyone else thinking how Halo is turning into the next Doom series? In otherwords, updated graphics, same crappy gameplay/storyline? While I know how everyone loves a good movie editor and multiplayer bot scenarios (sarcasm) Halo 3 will more than likely not make me run out and buy xbox 360. Hope Microsoft has something else up their sleeves...

Matt Selnekovic @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

"same crappy gameplay/storyline"
And you call yourself a gamer?

Venomous @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I think 50 people on line would be cool. Clans could go at it for real. Maby the bot thing would work out if it was done right. As far as turning out to being the DOOM series, no way!!! HALO has such a different feel then any other shooter. Maby people should stop being so critical.

MthdDirector @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Freakin' Re-Duckulous

Hieronymus @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Yeah, but will they finally figure out that advanced technology called a "Save" for the co-op game? Pretty wild stuff, I know, but I bet if they put their minds to it, they can figure out how throw us co-op folks a bone and let us save in mid-level for once.

xx1 @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Wow 3 degree of seperation. Even though I don't know that bungie uncle, but many people are potentially linked to him in less than those steps.

Zachary @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Why would you need a save button? The game saves like every ten minutes. Yes I'm exaggerating a bit, but when you die it's not that hard to go back to the previous room.

Handsome @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I personally can't wait, but will... I waited a year to get an xbox. Think of the money I'll save!

d @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

halo 2 sucked compared to halo 1. halo 3 better worth it.

omg wtfg @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Halo 2 sucked. I played it for an hour and it was as boring as Grabbed by the Ghoulies. And I'm serious. And if you think i'm a "Halo hater", I'm not. Halo 1, IMO, was a lot better.

Carl @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

unforetunetly... how the hell can halo 3 be better than halo 2(which truly did suck people just say it, compared to 1), when halo2 took HOW LONG to get to store shelves.. and halo 3 is supposed to be done in around only 14-16 months? I'm kinda iffy...just wait and see I guess.... but Alex, anyone would totally agree that the storyline SUCKED ASS last game... but atleast the gameplay was the same: great

mind you people I prefer sony... why? truthfully games are not my #1, because when something STOPS me from playing games... say technical issues,,, I have gone through THREE xboxs (new not that refurbished stuff), ranging from 6 months after release to now, and they ALL have serious hardware issues... where as my two ps2s which I bought launch week in canada... still work 100%... that is why

Tanner @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

when halo 2 came it out it was so lomg and know it's only going to take them a year and a couple months but are they going to jew us over by showing us demo's but the ac
tion in the previews are not in the game are they going to do the same thing again in Halo 3 ?

Guess Who @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Grittier storyline...

The flood will get to Earth, screw with the atmosphere, kill everybody except some small base that which Chief has to defend, we'll use the 360's awesome power so that hundreds of freakin' flood storm the base from every angle, then the Flood darken the sky until a black sun glows over the Earth's cracked surface, and after everyone on the base is pulled away into the darkness, infected, turned, the Chief alone will leave the orb of cracked glass called Earth and come for that bitch, Cortana, killing everything in his way. This is the way the Earth dies, not with bang but with a whimper.

Joyeuse @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

This is the way the world ends.

gamerEXE @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

iim still a little confused wat happened to cortana . did she get taken hostaage or sumthin. she end story as far as her did suck. o and "guess who" that wud be a nice ending for the series very original.

Mojo @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

pies and bovril

Mojo @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

hi there, I was just testing. I think that the claims made at the beginning of this post are false.
However, Bungie will undounbtedly have some new features instore for us this time round, not only that but the graphics will be unbelievable. Think halo 1 to halo2 or Metal gear solid 1 on the playstation to sons of liberty on the ps2, its gonna be life changing stuff i reckon. A few things I would like to see are things such as context sensitive skins.

In halo2 when in multiplayer, no one with any sense goes thwe elites. They are bigger targets and piss easy to snipe, and yet there is no advantage of going an elite to balance it out, asides from looking cool or having a little role play.
If anyone's read the 3 halo books they will know what Im talking about(spartans were super fast like blink and they're gone fast, as were the elites), and even if you've not, if you look closely during the capaign, you will notice that the elite are very agile and can perform many manouveres like jumping way up hight onto catwalks that the chief would otherwise have to use stairs.
When you are on the recieving end of an elite's melee attack, you wanna jump behind the sofa. If you still dont know what I'm rambling on about, watch the first level when you are repelling the covie boarders and they're coming out of their ships and later on in the game on the last level when your elites are attacking the brutes on their way to fight tartarus, and your golden and white elites slice through the jackal traitors ....THAT is the way it should be, the animation for sword attacks and melee attacks in multi-player are like that of an eight year old girl in comparison to campaign mode. Had Bungie made elite attack more letahl and brutal looking on and made them carry the sword by their side like in the game and really dice you to pieces like in campaign I would have been satisfied, instead were left with a more novelty effort which really has no substance.

Also I would have loved to have seen the brutes as another character available in multiplayer, if everyone had attributes lioke afore mentioned (i.e. the elites are srtonger and more agile and can jump higher than spartans but are bigger targets, and the spartans are more balanced easier to evade with)
and then you would have the brutes.
That would be awesome, you could kill with one strike and if you ran out of ammo or so desired, could press and hold the melee button, which inturn would throw down your weapon and charge like a rhino on steroids, flattening anyone thats in your way. ( the downsides of going a brute would be bneing the slowest of the bunch [except when in chareg mode when you esre then the fastest], also you have no shield so once your life does not replenishand youlll get slower as health goes down(which leaves only one option ...Charge), and you are a fat ass target that could be hit form miles away and greandes would be more effective against your large mass and every one would gang up on you until you were down
seeing as you are the more dangerous adversary.

They could add things like weaopon preferance, where you can use any weapon you like no matter the character you go but if you use a covenant gun while an elite or a bruteshot while a brute and battle rifle with the chief. The accuracy would be greater or mor damage or sumthing like that). ANd the elites would use the sword like in the campaign mode.
tiny details like this would work wonders.

If a 3rd person view were available as an option that would open up new moves like rolls and jumping to the side and grasp jumping that the elites do.
advgs: can see more and extra manouveres.
disadvs: Aim is not as precise/stable/steady as when in first person.

While we're at it why not a Tartarus game mode on live where some one gets to go Tartarus and loads of elites have to try and take him out. You as the big guty would be near indestructable with that allpowerful shield and your mighty hammer, and as the elites imagine the deparation in trying to fell him before the time runs out and halo is activated, youd akll be tryin to shoot his hammer with your carbines, and you can imagine the banter on the headsets as tartarus knock you all the way to High Charity with his meaty hammer. Plus Tartarus could have brute re-inforecments to aid him. That would make an awesome live experience.

Also One other idea is an improved versuion of the Zombie mode, where your skin is a flood combat form, and you all have rockets and swords. The twist this time would be that, a host of infection forms would follow you around and once you killed a sumone, they would be engulfed and mutated into an elite/spartan combat form(depends on what you killed) and they would now be on yourside. The flood would multiply so when you slay foes, they cahnge to your team but also bots wold be made as well.
*see below
ADvantages: Can jump highr and run faster than any other available charchter, and have the stongets melee attcks just stronger than brutes except the fearful rhino charge.
Disadvantages: No shield so once your stuctural integrety bar has diminished your control will *divert to one of your previous victims.

They could easily make all of this availiable as updates on live or discs like the map packs in shops, but at the very least in the next one halo3, cannot wait.

Let us now what you think of my ideas and any ideas of your own

Mojo' Revnge

Mojo @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

pies and bovril

David @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Posted Jun 23, 2005, 12:39 PM ET by omg wtfg
Halo 2 sucked. I played it for an hour and it was as boring as Grabbed by the Ghoulies. And I'm serious. And if you think i'm a "Halo hater", I'm not. Halo 1, IMO, was a lot better.

I do think that Halo 1 was better than Halo 2, but Halo 2 is still amazing, and it is not crap.
P.S I actually liked Grabbed by the Ghoulies.

jonas @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

xbox is the worst shit and the xbox360 isn't gonna be a f*ck better cuz xbox sucks and so does halo1,2 and certainly halo3!

Fusbun @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Well halo 2 is way better than halo 1 cause the weapons and everthing have been uptated.
And i think the storyline is great!(i'm still wondering where the arc is) but still if you havn't completed halo 1 or 2 yet you won't know the whole storyline so you can't critices it until you complete the two of them.
PS. if map editor in it does come through than i god dam hope you can place hunters in the map and more than two like 6 at once. and phantoms and maybe you could make huge maps

Baker on Fire @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

You know what just to tell you where I think the arc is is that the arc is on Earth. I mean lets do some critical thinking. The only race that is able to turn on the HALO bomb function are humans, because Master Chief is called the Reclaimer in Halo 1, and in Halo 2 the Reclaimer is called fragile in the last level refering to Miss Commander Keyes. So what im thinking is that the humans could actually be deceandants of the forrunner and the ARC is actually Earth. And the humans, are what was left of the Forerunner. It also explains why on halo there are many conifers on them that are simmilar to pine trees.

gamerEXE @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

that dose make alot os sence. btw i was wondering wat the heck is up with the big nasty weed and cortana in halo 2?

The1337Dude @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

The Earth is the Ark. And the Spartans were the Forerunners.

who evers here read this because im the wizard of gaming xbox @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

halo 3 they are keeping it from me its mad alright

z @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

you know People keep saying halo 2 wasn't as good as halo 1 well half the reason I didn't like halo 2 was half the rumours i was lookin forward to seeing weren't true but for the most part the game was great and i can only expect the same for halo 3 us rumour posters will give people such high expectations but i think the game will still be better after all it is a whole new system granted it only has a few new things who knows what thos can do for halo 3 as for rumours of map editors and movie editors i have my doubts multi player rumours are the best to hope for but rarley come are true

some kid @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

well the only thing that i thought was wrong with halo 2 was that is was hella short, if halo 3 has the same gameplay, good graphics, improved weapons 'n stuff, and a LONGER storyline, it'll kick some good decent ass

Moofin @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Meh... I liked Halo 2. It did seem pretty short, and the ending left you hanging, but it had a very original plotline. I especially liked how you got to know the Convenant's side of the story... the Arbiter thing was interesting, I thought.

Oh, and as to that big weed thing? He kinda reminds me the Venus Fly Trap form of Treebeard (if you're a fan of LOTR, of course) because he seems to know a lot of stuff from the past and he's a plant and he can move and talk and all that lovely Treebeardy stuff. I think him and Cortana (who is basically an all-knowing computer chip) will conspire together and figure out how to stop all of these Halos WITHOUT blowing everybody outta the sky.

I agree with Fusbun... you gotta play both games completely in order to criticize 'em!

dominick @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I think whoeva says any Halo game is crap is a complete and utter invalid who cannot appreciate the context of a good story line.
AND!! if u think its crap then LEAVE IT ALONE and dont complain like little bitches that u are. to me u sound a bit scared of the elites and u cant handle a bit of competition from the brutes, well as sargeant johnson correctly stated,"thier tough but they aint invinsible" so y i ask do you keep tryin to change spartan so the game wud be easier EH!!!!!!!

methodman3537 @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Rumers yeah probably bs but i have a friend who works for bungie and microsoft that did halo 1 and 2 and he told me you can duel wield sword and rocket luanchers. also i kno the whole story line to it any way, its 5000 times better than halo 2

dEnNiS @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

go to this site you can find a halo 3 price and relase date http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product_id=T000284

masterodst @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

the whole halo 2 sucked is crazy...halo 2 was way better with the whole online play and the better vehicles...its the only game that the second is better than the first and halo 3 will blow 1& 2 away...bungie never upsets its gamers including myself...

Daffy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I would like to see a prequel after halo three where u get to fight out the invasion of reach(not sure if reach is spelt right). It would be cool to fight next to other spartans.Bungie could do a cool scene like in Star Wars 3 where all the jedi die except it'll be the spartans instead.

I would think it cool as well if master cheif could get his hands on some more powerfull weapons specifically intended fot the spartans to use.

Richard and Grant @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

This is to all you whiney little bitches out there (we know who you are and where you live) who complain about how crap Halo 2 is. Well the game rules!!!! I was hooked and everybody I knew were hooked, we can't stop playing it, even now!!! The story is amazing and Halo has defined the way games should be. Halo 2 changed the entire scope of stories in video games, it brought a sense of something epic to proceedings. How can any of you idiots think Halo is better than Halo 2? Halo was a great game and still is but Halo 2 improves upon every aspect of the game and makes it bigger, better and deadlier! The only reason you numbfucks don't like the Halo 2 story is because it ended on a cliffhanger! All you do is complain, you try creating something as good as Halo 2. All you do is sit in your tower play Sony Gaystation!!! The truth is you can't you mighty duck fucks, you will fail and cry like the whiney bitches you are!!!!!
And to everyone who has stood up for Halo, may the force be with you!

Love Richard and Grant

Shmay @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

The halos are good games, but all these rumors about what halo 3 will hold is totally going to ruin it. Most these things probably won't happen. Halo 2 promises like 5 different kinds of warthogs and we got 2. They promised a quadrunner and it was a no show. I even heard about dual wield a sword and it didn't happen. Don't get me wrong even though I don't personally own an x-box I like the halos a lot and play them whenever I can, but all these high expectations are going to dissapoint people because it will be hard to match halo 2 and if you expect too much you will always dissapoint yourself. That's why a pessimistic is never dissapointed. I think X-box 360 will do well and I think all the systems will do fine. I personally will buy an X-box 360 and hope for the best.
Shmay

me @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

so im a little confused here. when halo 3 comes out they're not going to make me buy an xbox 360 to support it are they? ill just be able to play it on my good ol' normal xbox RIGHT??!!

me @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

so im a little confused here. when halo 3 comes out they're not going to make me buy an xbox 360 to support it are they? ill just be able to play it on my good ol' normal xbox RIGHT??!!

Jordon @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I think that Halo 2's storyline and maps were weak compared to Halo 1. The storyline has to be better along side the maps for campaign. Bots would be good cas you could be playin with a bunch of people and not everyone has Xbox Live! I wouldnt care about the editor crap. Ya...when halo 3 comes out that means we have to pay another $600 just to play the dam game....it better be worth it. I think they should add in more vehicles like driving the pelican or those alien bus thingys. The levels in Halo 2 arnt really fun to play unlike the Halo 1 levels which I could play hundreds of times!! I think there should be a map for multiplayer with two islands and you get a boat and pelican..that would be fun...

Quinny @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

well in response to the previous comment halo 3 is going to be for the Xbox 360, as halo turned to be the selling point for Xbox Microsoft wants halo 3 to do the same with their new machine

personally after reading Time's article about the Xbox 360 i think that Microsoft has something big under their sleeves, they want to intagrate the 360 into all your electronic entertainment, its going to connect to the computer(so the map editor would work) its already your TV they want to make it your phone now etc etc i think that they are going to use halo 3 as a vessal for this by trying to get as much use between the 360 and the computer, so the map maker is a possibility as are other extras

in regards to halo 3 being done in 14-16 months or whatever i think that halo 3 has been done for a long time, they are just holding it, if you look at release dates for halo 3 and the PS3 you'll see that halo 3 is coming out the same time as the PS3, i sinceraly doubt this is coincidence

with the multiple characters in multiplayer, it would be nice but i doubt third person would come in

halo has been full of inovation and i think that bungie is going to try and dazzle us with this next installment

Jordon @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

I forgot one thing wen i just subbmited my thingy...in multiplayer wats the deal with just being a elite or cheif...i think u should be able to be a brute..marine, sgt,helljumper, for all i care put a jackal or grunt in there. They should all have equal health even if the dont have sheilds. This would be kick ass!!

Halo lover and hater @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

fuk did i love halo 1, it was the reason i bought a xbox, i loved the concept of the arbiter and the gameplay was good story not too bad but it was short but dnt get me wrong i loved it all the same. Now with these rumors, seriously even if we cud prove our rumors it all cud not end up in the game ne way, i mean ffs we saw screen shots of the quadrunner n 4 worthogs but wer the fuk wer they in the game, bungie i love u but u let me down in that reguard, shame upon ur souls and the souls of ur kin, im lookin forward to halo 3, but the idea that i hav to buy a 360 kinda shits me, but i spose they do wat they hav to do to get these things in our face n in our homes, has ne1 seen a screen shot from halo 3 id love to see it post the url so we can all enjoy it, peace out n to all playstations fan go fuk urself the box forever!!! and to my fellow xboxians live long n prosper

~Cheers

Freakin Joe Hero @ Dec 18th 2005 9:59PM

Obviously the arc is on earth.
Halo 2 has a better Multiplayer than Halo, but that's it. Halo has the better storyline, gameplay, the levels were awesome, and much better replay value.
Halo 2 was a disappointment because of the level they showed at E3 was supposed to be a playable level, but there was no level even close to that bad ass movie clip.
I predict a full scale invasion of Earth now.
A prequel Re-enacting the battles in the books would be awesome.