Sony PSP to hit Europe in september
by Conrad Quilty-Harper 
{ Jul 17th 2005 at 3:15PM }
Sony has finally set itself a deadline for putting a European version of the PSP on store shelves. European gamers waiting for the portable console will be able to pick up the value pack (which includes a 32MB duo memory stick, headphones, remote control and a disk with video, music and game demos) from this September. Up until that point the Nintendo will continue to own the European market for portable gaming with the DS and the GBA line. The EU PSP will also have to counter the fact that it's expected to debut at €250/£179, compared to the €149/£99 DS. Personally I've been waiting for a European PSP so I can compare it hand in hand with the DS. But if Worms Portable is out before then I might feel tempted to go for the cheaper and more established DS. Any potential portable UK/EU gamers out there caught in a similar dilemma?
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Danny boy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I just don't know which to get.
On the one hand you have the DS, A solid console that is almost half the price of the other, has some cool features and nice games. The games are also 10 pounds cheaper (On play.com anyway).
Then you have the PSP, it plays movies, has better graphics and a huge screen.. but is it woth the extra 80 pounds?
You can get more out of the DS for less money but the PSP seems to offer more on the whole.. Oh i don't know.
Someone please post what they think about it.. please!
Mo @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
To be perfectly honest, I just don't see the point of PSP.
It costs 80 more than the PS2 and PSP titles cost upto 10 more - for pretty much similar titles.
I still haven't seen one in person so I may change my mind - but I doubt it. Not at that price.
McBacon @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
The PSP's games in America so far have been less than promosing. I'll stick with my DS.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I don't think an extremely late European delay will save the PSP. It is still behind the DS. Just goes to show that hype isn't everything. Well, I'm off to play Mario 64 DS.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I am not so sure if the PSP has better graphics. I mean, if you compare Mario 64 to some of the new PSP games coming out. Its just so much better on DS. Compare the upcoming SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo for the PSP to Mario 64 DS on obviously the DS. And theres just no competition, the DS blows it away.
I have played my DS for 4 days now without even coming close to having to recharge, on the other hand the PSP has 6-8 hours of battery life. You will soon be able to play music / movies with this Play-Yan thing coming out. And the PSP's screen is not that much larger compared to either of the DS screens.
I do not mean to talk crap or anything. But the PSP is just a warn down PS2. It has !almost! the same graphics capabilities, and pretty much all UMD movies for it suck. I'de rather take an episode of a really good show from my computer, and port it over to my Play-Yawn (When it comes).
In final, I think the DS is much worthwhile because it is doing so much better then the PSP in the market. And since that is occuring, I wouldnt be too suprised if more and more devs joined the DS team. And the logo says it all, touch IS good. I've played both PSP and DS, and I find it much more fun to use a touch-screen.
Coollead @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I love my PSP, got it at launch, but I'm not going to be one of those people who completely hates the DS. That's really how it seems how the "hardcore" fanbase is. Both systems have their strengths. Both have weaknessess. Neither are exactly stellar right now.
In America, both the DS and PSP have very weak game line-ups. What do you expect? It's the summer time. Both systems will come into their own by the holidays.
If you want to play games that are fun, you won't discriminate. You might be broke as hell, but you'd still be happier if you decide to block out one option entirely. I'm just a poor college student with a part time job living at home, and I could afford a PSP. It's not THAT bad. The DS is cheaper yes, and my ten year old brother saved allowance for six months to buy one. Sooo, save your money. =)
EdZ @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
This is old, old news. the september 1st release date has been known for over a month now.
Now i just have to decide between inporting another PSP (and hopefully getting a v1 or v1.5) or getting a local one in september (Got mugged, so don't have mine anymore. 500 worth of stuff gone...)
brain_stew @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
You can talk trash about the PSP all you want but to say the DS has better graphics is stupid. Ludicrous. Laughable. I have both and while I loe my DS its graphics are horrendous, but that is not what you buy a DS for. I don't care about the European launch because I have a superior Jap PSP that allows me to play games from SNES, Mega Drive, NES, GBA, Neo CD, PCE and SCUMM games along with many more. The PSP is superior to the DS in almost every way, that doesn't make the DS bad it just means its nearly half price for a good reason.
.bob @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I have both the DS and the PSP (both imported here to the UK) and have played the DS much more and have loads of games on my shopping list for it. I have not seen anymore games that I want for the PSP other than the 3 I've got (Lumines is great BTW).
Innovation will hopefully triumph over style, but the people here in the UK seem to think the PSP is going to awsome because it looks awsome...
Coollead @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
To #5
If http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/920758_20041119_screen015.jpg
looks better than http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/136/928395_20050517_screen003.jpg
I'll sell my PSP right now. Don't get me wrong, it's a very fun game, but PLEASE try to keep in mind that graphics aren't everything! It's the gameplay that counts.
If you're talking Mario 64 looks more FUN than SOCOM, ok, you got me there, because some people just don't like shooting games. I'm just confused.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
#9 still-shot graphics always suck. That's why. Check out the gameplay footage on Mario 64 DS compared to SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
And you are right, gameplay is over graphics. And I feel that using a touch-screen is much more better then using a few buttons. My thoughts and prayers to all of those people who bought their PSP and had dead pixels and/or broken X buttons.
TJ @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
#2 Mo said some of it for me.
I see no reason to get a PSP just now while my PS2 is running. I don't want multimedia either really, the system seems poor at it to me what with all the extra cost.
The jury is still out though, if a few titles hits that I think justifies the system for my tastes and that's new then I'll get one - simple as that.
DS I got on day one and have played nearly every day since, rarely touched (no pun intended :p) my SP at home before as it didn't offer much that my retro or current systems did on a TV.
DS on the other hand with new gameplay has seen me playing it more than the PS2 and as much if not more so than the Cube, if it wasn't for RE4 then I certainly would have played DS more. And you can be sure of the fact it's very sturdy, which I find a factor.
It's a great fresh new system, and while the PSP could say the same it offers nothing actually new (what with having a PS2) at this moment to make me drop all that cash come September.
Danny Boy, I'd honestly say get a DS. The PSP will offer little that your PS2 does but the DS offers quite a few things nothing else can do.
We've got a few great games here now and just hitting and importing such high held games like Meteos and Kirby (both VERY highly rated) along with things like Electroplankton all will have you hooked on new gameplay.
Hope you enjoy which ever system you get :)
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Very well said TJ. I, myself, will be getting an Xbox360 and maybe a Rev and I will be done with it. There is no chance in hell of me getting a PS3 for various reasons. I can't wait to download games from my 360 onto my DS. Lol but that isnt the only reason I am getting one.
Bill @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I got the PSP for the emulation potential, and I haven't been disappointed. The PSP is much more hackable because of the USB port, quasi-standard memory stick, and other features. As a result, it's a lot easier to get emulators and homebrewed applications to run on it. Something to keep in mind when making a purchase decision.
Dan Jackson @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I wouldn't bother waiting for the European PSP launch, I'd import a PSP if you really want one, while the getting's still good. European PSPs are almost guaranteed to have the non-homebrew-compatible 1.52 firmware version, so it means you can't fill the void of lackluster game lineup with homebrew apps, games or emulators. Also it seems that Sony Europe are battling hard against imports in the courts, and they're winning, so soon it may not even be possible to import one - do it now while you still can.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
So you buy something based on whether or not if you can hack it?
Danny boy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Thanks TJ, Im gonna get my DS as soon as I can. :D
Dmitri, I agree with you there.
The PS3 doesn't offer anything new, just like the PSP doesn't.
REVO = Great exclusive games (ZELDA!!)
360 = Great Online games (and a few sneaky exclusives that i love)
I may get a PSP because I am a big Homebrew emulation junkie but from the sounds of it Sony are doing everything in their power to stop this.
I have a Zodiac 2 and I can get Pixel perfect movies on it that run flawlessly, I don't need a PSP to play movies. I have an Emulator for my Zodiac 2 also but because it has an analog stick it's hard to play.
Is it actually possible to make movies and put them on the Memory stick to run on the PSP? I would think Sony is trying to stop it with them pushing UMD movies and all
BoB @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Sony are greedy, everything they make costs more money for no reason.
Just look at the Sony Memory stick, why is it so expensive? Does it do anything that other types of memory can't do? No. Not only that Sandisk who have brought out their own version of the memory stick sell it for half the price and it actually performs better (BIG article about this on IGN or Gamespot).
Same thing with their TVs, DvD players, CD players, Minidisk players, walkmans, Palmtops, Laptops.... The list goes on, they want more money for the same old products you can get everywhere else. Anyone that brought the VAIO is mentally unstable. Sony have actually lost a large market share in the TV business where they used to be on top.
All you are paying for with Sony is a nice design.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Also Danny, it has recently been revealed that Microsoft will be making Nintendo DS games and will be making certain ones downloadable through the Xbox360. As far as I see it, Sony will never die, it will only suffer.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I do not understand why there is so much hype around the PSP. There have been many products that can do all that it can do and more, and they have been out for years.
Danny boy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
This support from Microsoft could really help out Nintendo, this is very good news Indeed.
From what I heard Microsoft would have the Content items for the DS available for download onto the Xbox 360 then could be transferred to your DS, it will probably be the same content that is available from those station things that Nintendo said would be in game stores and places like that. Im not sure if any of this was actualy confirmed though.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
All I know is that Age of Empires is coming to DS. And that ain't bad lol. Though I don't think Nintendo getting Microsoft's support is going to help Nintendo. Believe it or not Nintendo is still a very large part of the gaming industry. I think Nintendo+Microsoft will help Nintendo+Microsoft. Not one or the other. In the end all it spells is, Sony = Pretty fucked.
Danny boy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
How can support for the DS be bad for Nintendo?
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I didn't say it wasn't. Please read thoroughly. I said that it is going to help both companies. I do not think you should take Nintendo for granted. You are making it sound like Nintendo needs support from Microsoft. But reality is, it doesn't.
Danny boy @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Well yea, it's pretty obvious that Microsoft are gonna get something out of it otherwise they woulden't do it.
Bill @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Dmitri: yes, at least in part.
Danny boy: yes, it is possible to put any MP4 movie on the memory stick and play it, as well as any MP3.
Gawd I'm sick of this my-handheld-is-better-than-yours crap. Give it a rest, fanboys!
Rohith Thumati @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Let me preface this by saying that I own a PSP and that the movie and music capabilities of the it mean nothing to me.
That being said, I can't say that the PSP is a superior portable to the DS. To me, the PSP's game lineup has 3 clear winners at the moment: Ridge Racer, WipeOut Pure, and Lumines, with Tony Hawk and Hot Shots Golf being additional solid entries. The DS, on the other hand, has WarioWare and Meteos, with Kirby Canvas Curse, Yoshi Touch & Go, and Puyo Puyo as other solid entries. Now, only 1 really good PSP games is something that hasn't been done before, while the DS' best games are all ones that would only work with the stylus.
And looking ahead, there isn't anything original about the PSP lineup, while the DS has a bunch of games that can't be or aren't being done on other systems, with Nintendogs, Electroplankton, or the like.
So the question really is, what do you want from your handheld: the same experience you've had before but in portable form, or something new?
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Very good point. I am wondering if Microsoft is doing this to get close to Nintendo. And then when the Rev comes out, they may be able to work a deal and have Nintendo games on the 360 or PC, and then have Microsoft games on the Rev. I don't know. Only time can tell.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Bill. Theres only 2 mainstream handhelds out there. So don't get your panties in a bunch. How the hell can you call someone a fanboy based on which handheld they prefer. I mean, you can call me a fanboy just because I love the DS and hate the PSP? No. Because I am getting an Xbox360, Rev, and following with my DS. So how does that make me a fanboy, or anyone else? I think it just makes me a Sony H4t3r lol.
Tellute @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I've had my PSP for just over a month now (my brother when to Hong Kong). If you're thinking about buying one I'd recommend importing as the homebrew content is really starting to come into it's own now.
Thanks to a large collection of SNES roms I've got quality Nintendo games on the go. As I tend to download a lot of American TV the multi media features are great. Being able to watch The Daily Show on the tube is great. Just factor in the cost of a 1 gig memory stick.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
1 gig. Wow that sucks. Im just going to wait for Play-Yan and get 7 hours of shows.
mr.karmalicious @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
You know, Dmitri, you can import the Play-Yan from a site like Play-Asia...
"Thanks to a large collection of SNES roms I've got quality Nintendo games on the go."
I know some people with PSPs admit Ninty makes good games, but I find it hilarious that the PStools who call Nintendo kiddy by day are playing Nintendo ROMs at night :P.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
SO FREAKING TRUE KARMA! HAHAHAHA! And wouldn't the imported Play-Yan be in a different language?
TJ @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Danny Boy.
If indeed you're now getting a DS I'd like to suggest your first games, I wasn't that fussed about the "lacking" launch games, but in all honesty they could be better. I was happy but could still understand the complaints.
Drop your cash on a UK DS (saves import tax worries making the system more than 90-95), I think there's deals going for 90-95 online - that MAY have been from Joystiq's advertising things. Or you could go coloured and import from Lik-Sang if you realy want :)
I don't like suggesting import games/systems really, I like to see the sales count, but in this case make and exception. Get Meteos and Kirby from the US if they don't hit here soon.
I've been told from very neutral gamers that they are great games, games that will really make you fall in love with the system straight away.
Once you've finished with them AC, MPH, MKDS and AW:DS should be hitting here in September and things like Bomberman for multiplayer, Another Code (good but short) and great high score beating titles (if you like that type of game) like Yoshi will also keep you entertained in the UK stores.
Fukit, a little drunk, hope this comment isn't too much of a tangent :p
Shaolyen @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I live in the UK, and bought my DS a few weeks after it was released and a PSP Value Pack a few days ago (an imported US one, I might add). Initially I didn't think the DS was much to look at - perhaps even a bit plain, apart from the dual screens there was nothing really innovative about the physical design of the system. The PSP on the other hand looked fantastic. Sleek, "near PS2 quality graphics", huge screen, media player, the works. The plan was to get a DS to pass the time while I waited to buy a PSP. Having now owned both platforms, there are a few things that bug me.
1. The PSP cost me $100 more.
2. There's an always-on green pixel in the middle of my PSP screen.
3. PSP Memory sticks are expensive. Nothing fits on a 32MB stick.
4. Unlike the DS, the PSP isn't region free.
5. The PSP battery life doesn't compare to that of the DS.
6. I've only played a few PSP games, so far none of them have had "near PS2 quality graphics".
7. All the cool homebrew apps for the PSP will only last as long as it takes for you to play a game with a bundled firmware update.
8. To play video on the PSP you have to convert it to MP4 first.
As it turns out, I completely underestimated the DS and overestimated the PSP. Yes, the PSP has better graphics, but the DS has games that are more fun to play. Yes, the PSP plays video and audio, but only after you buy a memory stick big enough to hold anything substantial.
I'm still glad I bought both systems, but I don't think we're missing out in Europe by having to wait until September. In retrospect that's what I would have done, although I haven't tried Lumines yet. ;)
Pretty Obvious @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I'll break it down for you. You want bang for your buck get a PSP. If your on a budget wait until the PSP comes down in price.
For the extra hundred bucks your getting the best quality screen on the market, the ability to play movies (either UMD or whatever you like from the memory stick). Mp3 playback, Store your pictures and now play homebrew.
You wanna talk games, OK. Let's see what the DS has to offer, a new Mario Kart, a new Metriod, eventually a Zelda title and dozens of Mario's. All of which will be released 2 to 3 titles per year if we follow the Nintendo pattern of the last few years.
Let's look at what the PSP will offer, a handheld GTA, Gran Turismo, Devil May Cry and eventually a God of War game. The PSP launched with more games then the DS had to date and if we follow Sonys strategy by the end of next year you will have to sift through what games you want to buy.
How the hell does MArio 64 look better then Socom? You on crack? Ive never played a Socom game in my life but looking at those screens gave me a good laugh.
The PSP and DS both have Wifi true, DS has better battery life true. With the PSP your getting a handheld that should be worth over $400 bucks for $250. This is really a no brainer, dont do it to yourselves. Pick up a PSP.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Yea. I'de suggest Kirby, Mario 64 DS, and WarioWare: Touched!
funkonaut @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I'm on the fence with both systems. I have an SP and don't really see a killer app for the DS yet. However, having NES and SNES emulation would fill that void.
From what I've read, the PSP does emulation better. Should I wait for the DS' emulation to improve, or should I go for the PSP to get everything I want now?
(I'm really anxious to play Actraiser again.)
-wutang @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
well dmitri its nice seeing you again!lol
got my psp about 3 weeks ago and must say i am veery impressed
i was a bit hesitant before buying it but i think ive made the right choice
dont get me wrong ths DS is still cool....but the psp has it all
but this isnt the reason im writing.....the reason is if anyone knows how to convert dvd's to your PC and put them on your psp PLLEASSE email me at jrmdb3@hotmail.com or just post it up here thaanks
-wutang-
elmer @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
From what i heard SNES emulation on the DS is better at the moment running at full speed with sound, which, so far as i've heard, the PSP has trouble doing. This is because the SNES emulator on the DS was taken from a version of a SNES emu already optimised byhand to run on the lowly ARM chip in the GBA, and the move up onto the DS makes things much easier. The PSP SNES emu comes from SNES9X which of course wasn't designed for the PSP's custom CPU.
ulotchatshit @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I find that there are many posts from people who say that they have had both machines and yet complain about the PSP's price, then why go and buy both handhelds which would cost you more? Its not just this site, its everywhere. These people are lying and have never had both machines. I believe there are people out there who have both handhelds and you find that they like both handhelds thats why they have both.
The DS is an awesome handheld and so is the PSP. We all like different things and have different needs. We have our reasons to why we buy a handheld, be it price, brand, or exclusives. But the ones that piss me of the most are the ones who make up crap and say that the DS is way better and then trash the PSP. These are biased, naive fanboys who'll support their favourite brand like a football team no matter what. And they would trash the other teams no matter what. The thing is, like in football, you rarely here the biggest, greatest teams trash the not so great teams, its always the other way round. So I believe that these fanboys trash the PSP because theyre jealous, it has to be the only possible reason. They would write in these forums convinced that the PSP is crap and has crap games because those games are not on the DS, and DS games are the best because they say so.
Even if the PSP could teleport you anywhere around the world and have alien technology inside it, the fanboys would still say the PSP is crap and not worth the money.
Maybe I should give them the benefit of the doubt that theyre probably just kids and they argue it out in the school yard. And dont reply saying its you who sounds like a kid because thats just sad.
If its grown ups that trash talk and are biased fanboys then I can imagine what they are like, the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons, that what they are like. Big ugly fat blokes who have never kissed a girl.
RobTheBuilder @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
PSP has potential but no AAA games bar Lumines, and you can get the similar but better Meteos on the DS anyway!
get a DS with Band Brothers, Wario Ware, and Meteos. It'll cost you the same as just a PSP and will offer much more fun.
Coollead @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
#35, "4. Unlike the DS, the PSP isn't region free."
..? Huh? Only UMD movies (just like DVDs) are region coded...Unless, of course, you work for Sony, and you know things that we don't.
http://psp.ign.com/articles/561/561098p1.html
I mean, at least check up on facts before posting. =)
"3. PSP Memory sticks are expensive. Nothing fits on a 32MB stick."
This is just a nit-pick. Memory Stick Duos have been around for a few years now. And nothing fits on a 32mb stick? I beg to differ. That's a few MP3s and some game saves. It IS a gaming system, ya know. =P
"8. To play video on the PSP you have to convert it to MP4 first. "
..? That's a complaint, why? To play videos on the Play-Yan, you have to convert them to MP4. That's a moot point there, because it can be used against both systems.
#40, "PSP has potential but no AAA games bar Lumines, and you can get the similar but better Meteos on the DS anyway!"
How do they compare? I guess it's because they're both puzzle games...they seem different to me. Both equally as good. =)
chill @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
#41 YOU HIT A BULLSEYE....
benhc911 @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Note to Pretty obvious: Best quality screen my ass, largest yes, but also most dead pikel riddend, warped and dust under the screen of any system I have ever owned (I own both haandheld being debated) Also dont make me laugh about the MP3 function, I use it on my psp, but for one the psp is HUGE compared to just about ANY mp3 player you can buy, not to mention the storage capacity is greatly limited due to an expesive format of flash (although blistering transfer rates). Same goes for movies, except that the size is acceptable, where it fails here is in battery life, format support and once again capacity for price. Would you rather have a 300 PMP with 20+ gigs of storage or spend 250 on a psp plus another 100 or so for a 1 gig card
I'm not saying that the psp doesnt preform its multimedia functionsl, merely that you can get a smaller (mp3), or larger (pmp) product for cheaper, that stores more and has longer battery life.
Dont buy it if you want a mp3 player, dont buy it if you want a pmp. Buy it if you want a convergance peice that also serves up decent games, only a couple amazing and devil may cry and God of war havent been announced for psp so shut up. not to mention that without the second analog stick they may suck ass like coded arms, and we dont know how well GTA LSS will play control wise.
so lets see... a crappy mp3 player that needs to be expanded, thats about 30 bucks from walmart, and they use cheaper media, so they save you their cost in this situation. Plus an expandable only pmp, since none exist... I would market it at 100, since its storage is expensive and limited annd Id be competing against hardrives. Handheld gaming system, lets say 150. that works out to 250, not 400.
to ulotchatshit, I have both systems, and I complain about the price. Not becaus I couldnt afford, I am very comfortable in my economic situation. I complain rather because after I bought it, I was disapointed at the quality control, poor controls, poor battery life, long loading times and mediocore mp3 and movie play back.
finally to coollead, the point of the lack of storage is sound, although a gaming machine it is touted as a multimedia device. As such, things like the formats it supports (only mpeg4, not divx or xvid) and the affordability of reasonable storage should be taken into account. If the memory stick price/size should matter, then the mp3 and mpeg4 cant be touted as an advantage as 32 mb is hardly sufficient for a movie.
fryhole @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I'm quite suprised at how many comments here are relitivaly open, not the generic "your system sucks!", and quite well thought out. Thank you for that (except for "ulotofchatshit", keep it too yourself dude).
Now personally, I DO own both handhelds, first the DS, but like many others the beautiful screen on the PSP had me nearly weeping with joy. It really is AMAZING in person, pictures by no means do it justice. And Lumines does rock.
Now the launch lineup for the DS was lackluster, to put it mildly, and the PSP looked to me like it had some really great titles on the horizon. But after the amazing screen effect sort of wore off...and the movie playback turned out to be good, but far too convolted (have you tried to get a decent sized movie on there lately?!), I was left with games that I felt I had played many a time before (baring lumines) and I moved back to the DS, and its more interesting titles, for me.
See the one thing that is NOT just that generic fanboy comment, is that the DS's games ARE different than the norm (the nintendo ones at least). Now like many of you I have been gaming for years, and I also happen to own a ps2 (I don't hate sony that bad) but on a handheld I don't want loading times...I don't want deep strung out games that I've played time and time again, I want FUN. Thats what the DS has to offer me.
Once again, do you want the games you've known and played for years? Or do you want something a little different?
fryhole @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
Ha, woops, spelled "ulotchatshit" wrong, my bad.
Dmitri @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
I am going to quote myself again... The PSP is just a warn down PS2. That is all I have to say to your comment fryhole. No one wants the same thing, but put in a different box. Personally, I want change. Which is why the DS is perfect for me, plus all of its kickass games. PSP doesnt really have much, just some puzzle games and a bad FPS. No offense PSP people. I could get the PSP and have both machines, but I would not want to waste so much money on such a useless product. All I see is people saying "It can play movies and music, and it has great graphics". Big whoop! DS has some pretty kickass graphics too, and the GBA port in the DS is used as a great thing for new ideas. Now, it's not like I am just a person who just started hating sony for no reason. Its basically been because of their lack of ability. PS2, PSX, PSP, and soon PS3, have all had problems right from the start of release. And I have just grown not to trust it anymore. I am sick and tired of having to call Sony and ask for my PS2 to be replaced. Damned thing is already at the dump. And I didnt realize it until not to long ago, but most of Sony's 1st party games on their consoles are terrible. Killzone, SOCOM, etc. I am going to have to go with a company that won't take my money and blow it away just to give themselves almost 500 billion dollars debt.
benhc911 @ Dec 18th 2005 9:41PM
what I cant wait for is in 3-5 gaming generations (ie. up to the PS5-7).
By then, we could easily go back to cartidge based games, at an affordable rate to developers. By then I believe we will have reached a level of storage where it becomes ridiculous to have more. Also, high density flash will be availiable for cheap (12-30 years from now), and still supply enough space for the big games, but with high trnasfer rates. Optical drives, perhaps not in these consoles, I'm not sure the transfer rate of Bluray and what X dvd speed the others will run, but in many machines optical drives and harddrives are the bottlenecks of information tranfer rate.
A cartridge could once and for all eliminate loading times, and allow for increased polies and textures due to faster transfer of information.