Xbox 360: The most hack-proof console ever?

I got an idea for MS, we know they can dedect mod-chips so the moment the system dedtect it goes off-line untill u remove or whateva.

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Will Xbox360 be hackable? Sure will. Will the average Joe be able to do it? Probably not.

That's what I gather from the article. They say that you may have to hack one one way and a different one in a totally different fashion, right? If they can ensure that it is, in fact, that way, what will happen is that the only people with hacked xbox360s will be hard-core techies with a lot of experience. With the xbox1, after 1 person hacked it, you just had to go buy a mod chip and stick it in.

I think that this is a very good idea (from MS's standpoint). Think about it... Xbox1... 99% of people could hack it (pop open case, insert mod chip, etc.) or have a friend do it. If they could limit that to 1% on the xbox360, then there will not be as many games available for download, because there won't be nearly as many people out there ripping the games.

Here's an analogy... Say you like a band, and there are only 200 other people in the world that like that band. Good luck finding the album for download, right? The average joe wouldn't be able to find it. If only 1% of people have hacked xboxes, then that's a lot less people that have the motivation to rip the games.

Sure, there may be a few people on the undergrounds of the internets that'll be into xbox360 hacking, but not nearly as many as xbox..

Sorry that this post was so jumbled, I'm typing as I think... Just my 2 cents here.

Hmm.
Is this just another marketing ploy to get hackers etc. to buy an XBox 360? You would think Microsoft has a little more common sense than to openly challenge the entire hacking/cracking community like that.

Hmm ill go with microsoft. Its called the paradigm effect. Hackers had it easy with the xbox. You think microsoft dont have the money to make it harder. You fools just think you are on top now and will regain full control with the 360. Ill be sitting on the fence but i really hope microsoft stick it to you.

I bet it will be hacked even before it hits the market. Just like some movies are avaliabel for download before they are in thearers. I belive it will be hacked. Man made it man can crack it.
Microsft will be in for a shock when it is hacked within 24 hours.

i agree with number 21, they do wan't you to hack it, no doubt about it. The XBOX was easilly hackable because 95% of its architecture is based upon standard pc architecture. If the XBOX360 goes the same way, it will be easilly hackable to. Even with all the XBOXs Linux protection a simple game save exploit can bypass the lot, its not just about the console, its about the game.

Xbox 360 press conference is tonight starting at 11 PM (Central time) from the Tokyo game show. Find your own links.

all i have to say is that i agree with tons of stuff here, and some are just irrational. here´s what i have to say.

xbox 360 will be hacked.
xbox 360 may required chip soldered.
xbox 360 for sure won´t be executable explotied, but you never know.
xbox 360 .......i´m not fully convinced, but if they get it hacked and get emulators for dremcast, since the system will have enough power, then i´ll buy it, if not i´ll wait for ps3 and it´s awsome killzone 2 game.

I'm no hacker, but would it be possible to put os on a encoded game so each game would have it's own system, and a simple dashboard? for example I'm not sure,but say the hardware bios where set only to check the cd drive and isn't there a step by step hardware check that runs before an os is displayed checking usb ports cd drive ect. if the game disc acted as a boot disc and the only device it was set to check was the dvd player for a bootable disk wouldn't you need to break a software code on the disk before any thing could be done to the console for moding? other wise i would have to agree with post 50, 62, 66 and the one that said all hardware might have to work together to run. I'm just learning about bios, os, and how exploits work. So if this is just stupid i'm sorry.

I was in the military and thier radio's use a set of alternating encrytion could this be what they mean?

Just one question. WHY does Microsoft want it cracked? So that they don't make any royalties off of the games that wouldn't be sold if everybody had hacked boxes. Nah. That's pretty f'n stupid to say or think. They would prefer no pirating to pirating, that's just common sense.

microsfot loose out on loads of profit from the actually console, but they make it back by the games, the xbox 360 games will cost £60 each (dnt no in dollars), so MS doesn't wnt it to be hacked really

Obviously since writing you must have been realised that the 2.00 firmware for the PSP has been sort of hacked with the 1.50 Downgrade from 2.00. I'm playing homebrew quite nicely thank you very much after downgrading from 2.00.
The 360 will be hacked as we all know. If these people were not so gready trying to stop people creating and using Homebrew stuff and wanting to use imported software,and movies etc etc than the hackers would not need to hack!
It's all about GREED!

If these people were not so gready trying to stop people creating and using Homebrew stuff and wanting to use imported software,and movies etc etc than the hackers would not need to hack!

That is the biggest load of bs ive ever heard. You want homebrew there plenty of ways to do it you dont need a console.

Importing games isnt a problem with the psp and the reason the xbox didnt work in japan was because the games they were importing were shit for the japanese market.

You can make any excuse you want but the truth is its fun to muck around with shit and see what you can do. And while doing it burn some shit for free. If there were no region codes it wouldnt stop you from trying to scam free games.

These greedy people also make the people who decide to invest in them alot of money. If you had an idea that could make you a millionaire and someone stole it wouldnt u be pissed. How much money was microsoft out of pocket on the last xbox millions sorry billions and there greedy for wanting to protect their investment.

I dont see a major problem with modding etc to a certian extent but people that think their hard done by because someone making money just gives me the shits. And why do you want to import so badly dont like supporting the guy down the road getting paid bugger all to talk shit with you about whats coing out then seeing you leave week to week cause you want to download it for free. Ever though about the thousands of jobs that would be created if you actually bought the game.

Why dont you have a closer look at how much microsoft has made on this console before you talk about greedy not gready u greedy prick.

Lol! Why dont you have a closer look at how much microsoft has made on this console before you talk about greedy not gready u greedy prick. You TOSSER!
You don't really know what you are talking about! I like to import Films/Games(and pay for them!!!!) because I don't see why we should be treated as second class citizens in the UK and wait a further 6 months for them to come out here!!!! And I buy games all the time you DICKHEAD!!. I was talikng about homebrew that are made and distributed for free!!!!
I caould go on for ages taliking about what a lot of CRAP you said, but you are not worth my time. You must of missunderstood me or you are a PRICK.

Mate i work in the gaming industry and its a well known fact microsoft have lost money on the xbox. Get ur facts straight mate before u make comments on how much microsoft is making.

They are protecting an investment. Its pretty easy if u want to complain buy the xbox from that region you want particular games from. Or get a chip. But dont bitch about a company that wants to make it harder for you. . Dont bitch about not being able to do shit with a system microsoft didnt even design that way.

Its not greedy considering a company in Australia is paying millions to have the rights to certain products and then you import it from overseas. If your not patient enough to wait and dont understand the reasons why you have to wait considering market conditions then u definatly dont have the right to come on here and talk bs.

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=8369

Software giant Microsoft has announced its financial results for the first quarter of 2005, revealing that while the company overall saw solid profit growth, the Xbox division slipped back into the red with a $164 million operating loss.

Hes the latest news. And Xbox is doing better now then it ever was. Get ur facts straight.

You think being in the UK is bad. Microsoft is going to ship to regions that will buy the most consoles. The Xbox360 is already sold out in most places unless you want the core edition.

Australia is the next region to get Xbox 360. What will this mean for us. Even the UK this will mean that stock is going to be limited. They will service there biggest markets first.

O in case u think i know nothing about the 360 being sold out have a look at this.

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/deptpage.asp?web_dept=Xbox+360

http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=9078&cb=0.6349865

Hackers will probably go through USB ports with hardware or the removable HD with software if necessary.

Just think...Game Shark and Action Replay software and devices pave the way. In the unlikely event that hackers can't figure it out, these devices will help them out.

well full raw dumps of games for xbox 360 are cropping up, but no way to play them yet. emphasis on yet. lol

"You can't run these dumps yet, but you will be able to sooner
or later :)
In the mean time you can use our open source extractor tool to
check the Contents on your pc
Why do we release full raw dumps, one sentence "Remember
Gamecube?" until we know for sure what will be needed to run
these things we will be releasing the full raw dumps to you,
also a full raw dump is more likely to assist any hackers out
there...
So the first task is done. We hope this encourages all hackers,
coders and crackers out there to take up the challenge.
Enjoy!
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bull s**T any one can hack this. it's like opening a bag of chips no lie. any Qs email me unitedwesurf1227@yahoo.com or aim madmax1227@aim.com