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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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ok i've never played xbox live, but i'm not sure how 5$ a month is "pricey". according to gamespot , in 2003, Ultima Online's price got raised to 13$ a month. WoW is apparently 15$ or almost 78$ for 6 months.

is it just in comparison to sony? i dunno, after my horrendous experience with getting my ps2 online, i'd gladly have paid 5$ a month for a better designed service, and one that let me play multiple games online with no additional cost.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Erm, not wanting to start any kind of fanboy war, but I was wondering why Nintendo wasn't hailed for their achievements in the NES/SNES/GameBoy era for advancing gaming into a much more "one in every household" fashion over Atari's initial dominance?

Just being curious (as a bigger Nintendo fan than of the other two) and not trying to start a war here. If anything, those guys deserve a lifetime achievement award ;)

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Because vide gaming wasn't recognised as a popular media for entertainment. This is still a new phenomenom to a large chunk of the world.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Also, #1, with MMO's, you pay for the server maitenance for thousands of players as well as a constantly updated game.
In Xbox Live, you pay for multiplayer access (limited to less than a dozen).

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, I can't say I find XBOX Live expensive. It costs $50/year, the same price as buying one game, and brings far more enjoyment for me. Call me a fanboy, but it's thing like Live that made me one. You're NOT limited to <12 players (Halo 2, the biggest xbox game online, supports 16, as do the Rainbow 6 games and honestly, that's always more than enough). The uniformity and consistency of the service is what ties it all together and makes it really work, and it's certainly been worth the cost to me. If you haven't tried it, you might be surprised how much you'd like it.

As for the Emmy, I think it's nice to see recognition for gaming becoming more mainstream, even if this comes in below the daytime Emmys.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Hey dont forget the 50+ people online for Black Hawk Down and the 24 online for Battlefield 2.
I agree that XBOX live is the best online experience I've ever had. Once i went online with XBOX LIVE my PS2 became very dusty. There is nothing like Playing ONLINE with XBOX LIVE. Very VERY ADDICTING and A TON OF FUN!! Plus i made some great friends in the process and thats worth the price alone. :)
Anyone who knocks XBOX Live obviously hasnt looked into it nor ever played it. Silly people!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Pricey? Read the other comments. I spent $70 on a great game (Crimson Skies), a decent headset, and a year's worth of play. That is a steal.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, Xbox Live can be considered a "premium" service as it charges for better network quality and gameplay in general. While the comparison to the PS2's online service remains valid, at least in terms of pricing, I consider a membership "pricey" whenever it gets above $20 per year, which is about what I pay for most of my games. I'm just cheap like that, which probably explains why I can easily resist the lure of MMOs with monthly fees. =)

I've been a Live subscriber off and on since I got the machine, but I'm saving the 12-month subscription card I got for the launch of the 360. The only question is whether my cheapness will allow me to buy a premium 360 and a game at launch. Here's hoping for some great sales and bundles!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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If these guys ever went online with a pc their xbox would get dusty too.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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The whopping $4.17 a month I pay for Live is worth it. It's a nice single sign-on service that allows me to see what my friends are playing and send them invites, automatic voice chat, etc. There are definitely things I want to see changes, and all of them are being addressed on the 360. Honestly, I'm more excited about the Live improvements on the 360 then the machine itself.

Why people complain about $4.16 a month for hours of enjoyment, yet seem to have no problems paying $8 to see a 2 hour movie, is beyond me.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Anyone notice what NATAS is backwards ? Appropriate for M$ ...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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The "pricey" Xbox Live service?

PWA-HA-HA-HA!

This guy must volunteer for Joystiq or sumthin...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Well, TiaMaster, I guess you can laugh at the millions of Xbox owners who aren't on Live, too. People simply have different priorities, and even $4-$5 is too much just to play online for the majority of gamers (without counting separate MMO and content-download fees).

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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I trust Mr. Choi would classify almost all current-gen games as "pricey" as well, given the similarity in their cost to that of Live. There are certainly a lot of complaints one can make about Live, but "pricey" is a stretch.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, Thaddeus (Mr. Longstreth?), I do classify most full-price current-gen games as being overly "pricey," but then again, I consider myself quite a frugal shopper. I actually prefer waiting for new game prices to come down before making a purchase (I don't go for used/pre-owned), yet I've still built up a rather extensive library of current-gen titles in spite of it. For more on this "cheapy" philosophy, check out the following web site: http://www.CheapAssGamer.com/ .

It seems there are quite a few CAGs who agree with me, but I won't dispute your buying preferences; I can accept that people feel differently about that level of thriftiness. As with anything worthwhile, however, you have to count the cost to see if you're willing to sacrifice for it. I hope you don't mind me expressing my opinion on that.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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They gave Sony, Microsoft, and Atari awards for their contributions to video games but no Nintendo? I think its safe to presume everyone else in here (except the fanboys) will agree, Nintendo has contributed more to video gaming than those three.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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I'm good with my PC..

Renewing my live subscription would be too much of a waste of time..

When I've got HL2, CSS, BF2(Not the empty shell of these games that's for Xbox)and many more great PC games.. I just can't say no.

Hell, at least I don't have to deal with rednecks and racists on PC Games..

By the way... look at the Xbox 360 games.. like Quake 4 for example.. then look at Halo 2.. then you will realize that the 360 isn't THAT big of a graphics hike. It just has that glammy HDR which makes it look snazzier. The polygon counts look relatively similar.

:P

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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Resident Evil: Outbreak.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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You don't have to deal with idiots on CounterStrike or Battlefield? What game are you playing? Those are like internet moron spawning grounds, with people screaming into the mikes, camping, hacking, stupid play, constant swearing, etc. PC games in terms of idiots on the internet are at least as bad as anything on Xbox.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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"Anyone notice what NATAS is backwards ? Appropriate for M$ ..."

OMG!!! You just cracked the Da Vinci Code!!!

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