Hm. Does this make him a giant hypocrite?

RETARD

He's kind of a hypocrite. But anyway, 10,000 dollars, while it is a lot of money in quantity, in ratio it would be little for a next-gen console game. It has to be a flash animation. He'd have to give at least a quarter million or so for a next-gen console game, considering it's a shitty idea for a game after all.

Only if the game is wildly popular and causes a kid to flip out and kill someone ... Only knowing most developers, there would undoubtedely be a hidden level where you hunt down an army of Jack Thompsons, further adding fuel to this ridiculously unnecessary fire.

I could make text based adventure game that fits all of his requirements in an hour

The only problem is I'm not a videogame company who can "manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006"

Any ideas?

Steam! Rag Doll Kung-Fu is, I think, a relatively low-budget (maybe one-man game dev) which is being distrubed entirely through the steam network (it does not use the Source or Gold source engine either)

If Jack Thompson is going to abuse the transitive property then we might as well make a game about Bambi causing a kid to avenge the death of his mother. How about a good movie about a crazed over-zealous attorneys?

I would like to peek inside Jack Thompson's drug cabinet. There must be some funky shit in there.

I smella text based RPG and $10000 in my lap. Woot Woot. Text based is still a video game!!!!

I know a great game...
You ply as Satan and all you do is torture Jack Thompson..... all day long... it would be great.... I'll give $ 1,000,000,000 to EA if they develop it. (as if they need it)

I want to get famous too by blamming all of Americas problems on some random thing, but instead of video games I want to pick.. eggs.

Eggs are what's wrong with the youth of this country, if kids eat to many eggs a chamical is sent to their brain and makes them crave brains.... it also gives ulcers and 52% of all serial killers have ulcers so eat an egg become a serail killer DON'T EAT EGGS!!!!

It's official; Jack Thompson is batshit insane.

Oh it is SO on. If I had the resources I would make his game asap. Just sticking exactly to his layout would turn him into a giant hypocritical fool; but theres soooo many things you could do to this game that would piss him off to no end, and still have him pay the money to charity.

I'd make the game if the money was for me xD

I'd really love to see RockStar come up and make this and Take Two publish it just to piss him off. And I mean just exactly how Jack wants it, and it would show that Take Two would be taking now offense to it and Jack maybe will finally find his place in the world.

I really hope Rock Star and Take Two team up to make this, even if it's a simple flash game.

Take Two should make it.

To #10
I would really love if they did that also, and if they did they should definetly add a hidden game where you kill/beat up jack thompson with many weapons and in very violent ways.

I have the intro video to the game in my mind already. The baseball bat wielding gamer has been driven over the edge by one game of Tetris too far.

We have all seen it, and we all are a little afraid of the day it happens to us. My friends and family live in fear of me because I play video games. When they heard I had bought Lumines, some people even moved to a different state. It's so horrible, save me Jack Thompson!

Osaki Kim?

That's Japanese/Korean.

Smells ignorant to me.

Re: #13 (mercatfat)
Perhaps he's half-and-half? Father was Korean, mother was Japanese, and the mother named him?
Wait, that would make too much sense for Jack Thompson. Never mind.

the problem is his charity would probably be something lame like money to keep karl rove from being arrested for leaking a cia agent's name or some kind of Christian Coalition charity to help teach some african kids to accept Christ in their lives in trade for their food and medicine.

I spit on Jack Thompson.

I have a question for Mr. Thompson concerning his story concept. When this O.K. character brutally executes the real individuals responsible for this act, namely the sick 14 year child and the parents that failed to raise him properly, does he do it before or after bathing in the blood of E3 booth babes?

Also, does O.K. ever consider going after the media-whore politicians and lawyers sensationalizing previous cases of youth violence, despite the increasing rarity of their occurrence, inspiring other sick and poorly-raised children to live out their video game fantasies.

I can see it now; O.K. screaming, “You should have addressed the real problems facing our youth today!” as he beats Miami attorney Tom Jackson to death with a judges gavel. O.K. pauses to wipe the pinkish grey brain matter from his face and you can clearly hear the opening verse of Tupac’s Hail Mary blaring in the background.

Maybe O.K. should have disciplined his son to play more violent video games. That way he would have been trained and ready to defend himself against all the disturbed children out there whose parents could care less what their child does in his free time. Just a thought!

"The only problem is I'm not a videogame company who can 'manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006'"

Aren't you? Last time I checked it didn't take that much to offer a game for download, a Paypal account to accept payments, and a CD burner to distribute. Everyone with a little talent is a video game producer. Heck, if you really wanted to minimize the work and maximize the benefit, why not just develop this with some kind of RPG maker? Last I checked it was still pretty easy to make a great little RPG with something like Kyle's Quest for Palm OS. There must be dozens of other tools as well. Wasn't there a FPS maker that I saw the other day somewhere on Joystiq? Ah yes, here it is:

http://www.fpscreator.com/

Somebody ought to take this guy up on his offer, then shame him terribly when he fails to pony up the money for charity.

Incidently, the way that I read his "modest proposal" it's an open offer for ANY company to collect on, which means that EVERY game that's created should qualify for the 10k. I say go to it boys and girls - hit him where he hurts. I'm sure that if you produce the game somebody will help you sue Mr. Thompson for the donation he promised and there will be loads of juicy press for him and you alike. And isn't that what this is all about?

There's a reason you don't see any commercial games on the shelves that are purely meant to convey a political message. Nobody wants to play them.

Jack doesn't get this, he thinks every game is made to realise its creators' dark agenda.

Or maybe he does get it, but simply wants to make everyone believe otherwise.

So you see that leaves us with two choices, he's either a retard or a manipulative lying asshole.

I'd go for both.

just to clarify where thee 10,000 will go (from his open letter):

" I'll write a check for $10,000 to the favorite charity of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc's chairman, Paul Eibeler... "

so the game maker does not get the money ('less you happen to be Eibeler's favorite charity). Still, you could always do it for the notoriety...

Okay, I wasn't quite sure what he was going for, until I read the last paragraph in his press release:

"How about it, video game industry? ...It's all a fantasy, right? ...Target yourselves as you target others. I dare you."

See, in his mind, this is a diabolically clever plan. Obviously, the game isn't going to be made. Jack will consider this proof that the videogame industry is afraid of people mimicking the acts depicted in the game. After all, why else would they refuse the whopping $10,000 (to charity) prize.

At no point will it occur to him that his idea might suck, or that it would take MUCH more than $10,000 to make, and probably wouldn't make any money (on account of the idea sucking).

well, he's crazy, and diabolically clever hardly fits. he's more like al quida witty than diabolically clever.

He also doesn't realize that games like GTA aren't "targetting" anyone. Everyone on the street is anonymous, and all characters are fictional. This game would either specifically target real people or target slightly altered versions of their names.

This could verry easily end up as a plot in the next gta game, you know what those guys are like.

I wonder has he played postal 2. You play a voice actor who gets past a crowd of concerned parents to just pick up his check. Only to find out that he's being fired, as you pull your gun to take it out of the managing director's hide, the patents loose it and come in to the company guns blazing.

One quick mod from that and shurely you have the cash donated.

Yes, it would have to be a real game, released commercially, just like GTA, etc.

Apparently some of the gamers here who have little frontal lobe activity left don't understand the uses and nature of satire.

The offer of $10,000 is real. The real hypocrites here are the game companies, because they'll never make such a game. Paul Eibeler of Take-Two, for example, wouldn't want a game out there that targets him for death, despite his assertions, through Doug Lowenstein of the ESA that "no game ever caused anyone to do anything."

There is the hypocrisy, gentlemen. They know such games are dangerous, yet market and sell them to kids with M labels on them.

It is sad I had to explain this to all of you.

Jack Thompson

Oh, and the $10,000 goes to Paul Eibeler's favorite charity, not to some gamer. The writer of the piece would have done well to have pointed that out. Jack Thompson

How about the same game, except, at the beginning the Dad can say no. Poor Jimmy is out of luck, but no masacre. Or what about the option that the father watches the game with the child, explaining that its only a game?

Is this the real Jack Thompson?

You honour us with your presence sir! I think the games industry will surprise you and you will see your proposed game idea out there before the end of the year.

There is something i've allways wanted to know about you, if you could just answer one question.

In europe you CANT sell an adult game to a child. Under Irish and UK law it is a criminal offence to sell a 15's or 18's rated video game to a person under the stated age.

You also can't sell HANDGUNS or automatic weapons at all. Rifles must be purchased with the personal aproval of a member of the police force!

Which you would concider the more relivant fact in our low numbers of hand gun deaths and murders that are atributed to films and computer games?

James Brophy

Lets make a GTA conversion mod for this!

"How about it, video game industry? ...It's all a fantasy, right? ...Target yourselves as you target others. I dare you."

---I think this is gonna go like... If a game DOESN'T get made, then he points out the above of them being scared to make themselves a target(doubtful, it's just not worth their time... 10k isn't a lot in all actuality, definitely not worth the man power). Second, if they DO make the game, he'll point out how they're immoral enough to sell themselves out just to make a buck. Eitherway, it's ridiculous. It's like telling Jack Thompson "to prove your theory of video games cause actual violence, play Grand Theft Auto 3 for 8 hours a day for 6 months, then tell me if you feel any more violent tendancies". It's a waste of time. For one, I know he wouldn't change at all. He will be the same person he was before he spent 1,440 hours logged into GTA. Hell, mix it up. GTA, God of War, Doom3, Half-Life2, whatever. Media will not change one person's being. Believing so kind of naive. When was the last time you tried to put eggs back together after hearing the fairy tale of humpty dumpty?

I would play this game just because I find the concept to be humorous. A lot of people don't understand that this Thompson guy may sound like an idiot to them because they don't appreciate his sense of humor. A lot of people deem him to be stupid because they just do not agree with him.

Just because you disagree with someone, does not mean they are stupid. Feel free to disagree with me on that point, but keep in mind that I am currently in college working on a major in Journalism with a minor in Psychology. I have also owned my own company for three years.

If you want to think of something, do you think people would be so mad at Jack Thompson if he were part of a minority? If this was Jesse Jackson, Aaron MacGruder, or someone else; would the outrage be so high? What if he was homosexual? Would that make him more or less offensive to people who disagree with him?

I think the answer would be that the outcry would be different. After all, television, movies, books, and music all tell us that we should not treat these people with the same aggression as people who are of anglo-saxon descent.

At least, that's what movies like "Crash" teach us and what is spouted off on shows like Dora The Explorer, Sesame Street, and other childrens shows. "We have to accept everyone but white people! Because white people are rich powerful corporations that oppress everyone!" The same message is hammered into everyones head over and over again until they accept it as truth.

I think a lot of people who think that media has no effect on perception are just deluding themselves; because they do not wish to face the fact that they are wrong. If you study psychology or teaching, you'll realize that the human brain is always gathering information from everything around them. It is just like the old computer adage: GIGO. Or "Garbage In, Garbage Out."

But since all people are not equal in their response to stimuli, some content that works for many, may not work for a few. Ever see something on the news that made you physically ill? Did you watch the beheading videos or the burning bodies of troops dragged through Fallujah? Do you get angry when you turn on the news? Does reading a video game proposal from someone you disagree with make you upset?

See, media does have an effect on you.

Again, effect and affect are two different things. An effect is the reprucussion of an action and an affect is the cause of an action. For example, a person who is already unstable may be effected by the intake of some media toward a notion they may already be inclined to. This means that the effect of the media is to reinforce in eventual affect. Children are a blank slate before they are even born. Because children learn and are effected easier by stimuli, violent and socially unacceptable content should be kept away from them as deemed by their peers until those children are old enough to make the decision on their intake in a responsible manner. The ESRB and ISDA are supposed to be enforcing this and doing their best to keep adult content in the hands of adults and out of the hands of people who would be negatively effected by it. When the ISDA spends all its time lobbying and not evaluating the majority of the content that passes through their offices in a clear, concise, and effective manner: That needs to change.

I would love to go ahead and talk about this for hours; but I just got back from work and I would really like to go cook my breakfast.

And for those wondering: I am a male of hispanic/south islander descent, a Federalist, graduated from a correspondance school, I am also a baptized Catholic although I attend Protestant services. I am straight, currently have a girlfriend, I was part of the BSA until Life Scout Rank, and associate myself with many people connected to Freemasonry. On my dad's side of the family, my grandmother was in the Hell's Angels and my grandfather was in the Navy. My father was in the Air Force and both of my parents currently work for the government. I also own all the current systems except the Xbox. My favorite game of all time is Super Mario Bros. 3, followed by The Legend of Zelda 4, and Final Fantasy 6. I also do not smoke regularly, do not drink regularly, and I have tried both marijuana and cocaine; but do not use those. I am addicted to caffiene though and enjoy a few cups of coffee a day. There you go. Now you have all the ammo you need to form an opinion on me based on the learned bias you have aquired through life experiences and exposure to media.

lol ... the father, not playing any violent games, but watching violent tv shows all the time, clearly *proves* that it's not the game but the sick mind that gets the killing going ...

please, Take Two incorporate this *proposal* in a game of yours and make sure to twist every bit that is not clearly defined in there ... i'ld buy that game just for that ...

This project is already underway. Jack Thompson, your game will be created. To show the hypocrasy of the gaming industry? No, because that money should go to charity and that.

Mr. Thompson, if games caused anyone to do anything I would greatly appreciate examples.

Has anyone ever thought about how all these violent video games affects your pets who sit on your lap and watch as you play? It makes Fluffy go crazy. He runs around the house looking for his Uzi, but I put a lock on it and hid it away (that's called responsible pet ownership). But is it enough?

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4117/guncat7cs.jpg

With all this exposure to violence, Fluffy is just a ticking time bomb. It is just a matter of time before someone gets it.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6793/catattack2lx.gif

My other cat, Snookums, fears for his safety and tries to run away alot. He says that Princess always beats him up and threatens to stab him. He just knows she has it in for him.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1842/catdrama2aj.jpg

I sure hope Jack's modest proposal will save my kitties from needless bloodshed. Please, think of the kitties!

This is just another sad publicity stunt by a washed-up lawyer trying to get the public's attention once again. Nobody cares about his agenda anymore, so he has to up the stakes by throwing out a ridiculous idea about making his own game. You are the lamest of the lame, jackie boy.

Jack will find a way not to pay, if the game is developed by someone he doesn't like. That's guaranteed.

Why don't people make one starring a borderline psychopathic lawyer with a Janet Reno fetish finally gone completely nuts killing people by running over them in an ambulance. For bonus points set the game in one of the GTA environments.

Wow. Just wow. I thought he opposed games because they lead to violence. Now he wants people to make a game advocating vigilante justice.

And he's citing the "Golden Rule" as justification!

I thought you had to be sane to pass the Bar Exam. I guess not.

So, make the game.

OK kills a bunch of kids working in Best Buy, for revenge. Great idea.

OK kills a bunch of kids buying games at GameStops. Great idea.

OK kills an entire family in cold blood. Great idea.

Let me paint the closing cinematic for you all:

[six years earlier]
OK picks up his eight year old boy and his best friend at school and drives them back to OK's place. He drops them off, tells them "be good", then drives away.

The two boys immediately run into the house, and find a gift box sitting on top of their PS2. Unwrapping it, they find a present from OK's caring father: Grand Theft Auto!

The kids rip open the packaging and start playing. We can hear them giggle at the dirty words in the game, and giggle as you hear chainsaw sounds coming from their TV. The camera pans behind the boys' heads, and you see OK's son beating on an old lady with a bat.

[fade to black]

OK is sitting at a bar, with a beer in his hand, watching a football game. Hours go by, and OK slowly gets drunk, cursing at the players for every bad play. The game finally ends, and OK stumbles to his SUV and drives home.

As OK stumbles into his house he sees his son.

"Where's your friend?" OK asks.

"He went home a couple hours ago."

"Did you have a good time today?"

"Yeah, the new game was awesome! Thanks dad, you're the greatest!"

"Hey, I told you if you got all A's that I'd buy you any game you want. Keep your grades up, and make dad proud!"

[fade to black]

The final scene is of OK weeping over his son's grave as the police show up to take him into custody. "It's not my fault!" he wimpers as they shove him into the squad car.


How's that? A little more background for the OK character, and a good explanation of how a young kid would have had his sense of morality destroyed by age 14.

Actually Philip, the only opinion I have formed on you is that you are pompous. You may or may not be; I have no real idea. My opinion is not based on any preconceived notion or bias, but instead is based entirely on the way I have interpreted your remarks and writing style.

You have come off to me as if you view yourself as intellectually superior. Rock on, maybe you do, maybe you don’t.

My opinion though is that you come off as if touting your Journalism and Psych as fields which automatically qualify your opinion and feelings as correct and allow you to dismiss others feeble attempts to understand the concepts behind Jack’s agenda.

Who knows, maybe your thinking that I only feel this way because of my “preconceived notion” of those with involved with such advanced fields of study. That is not the case however, I can assure you. I myself have a degree in Journalism; I obtained it after transferring out of Engineering School due to Physics and Calculus II. I never could figure out why I performed fine in my Statics and Dynamics courses, but not Physics….yuck.

Journalism is a cakewalk, best 3 year vacation of my life. I couldn’t imagine an easier degree to obtain….except maybe….wait for it….Psych.

Your last paragraph is asstastic. I certainly won’t conclude that all male, Hispanic/south islander’s who are Federalists, that were baptized Catholic then spent way to long (my opinion again) in the BSA are jerks……just you and only you.

I'm trying to figure out which is more poorly misinformed: Jack Thompson's grasp of the satire of which Swift was a master or his undertstanding of the business of video game creation and distribution.

Of course, I'm well aware that Thompson knows full well that a game couldn't be manufactured for that cost. You couldn't even pay for the pressing and packaging of a game that had been already made. It's a "how long have you been beating your wife?" question that sullies the asker more than the asked.

I think Thompson's record speaks for itself. He is an embarassment to the bar on every level, the worst kind of ambulance-chaser whose greatest claim to fame is calling Janet Reno a Lesbian, trying to claim GTA forced a deeply disturbed and abused boy to murder a girl (when said boy vehemently denied it as the source) and his recent ill-informed attacks on the video game industry and the millions of people who play them (and are apparently ticking time-bombs).

Umm... didn't Postal 2 involve the main character shooting up the Rockstar offices?

Sounds like Jack's idea was done already. And much more tastelessly, thankyouverymuch.

Christ, go after child molesters or something!

I'm not sure you could make a full-blown console game like this and expect it to sell for $50 at Best Buy. The game is too political for it to be commercially feasible. I think you could definitely make a Flash game to put on the Internet for free.

Whatever the medium, this game needs to be taken as seriously as possible. Make it exactly as Jack Thompson suggests in the 'realistic' style of GTA. Release the game and get as many people as possible to play it (one good reason to make it free online). If hundreds of thousands of people played this game and enjoyed it without any negative repercussions, it would be a complete slap in the face to JT.

What he is hoping is that nobody will call his bluff. He thinks game makers are worried that kids will play this game and then actually come after them like they are 'trained' to do in the game. If this game were made and released, and no lawyers, lobbyists, retailers, publishers, etc. died as a result, what could Jack Thompson possibly say to that?

I say make the game. Call Jack's bluff. Make it the bloodiest, most violent game ever. Release it to the masses. Then, when nobody is killed by a some kid after using the 'murder simulator', Jack Thompson will perhaps crawl back under whatever rock he came from. But only after he signs that $10,000 check.

#33 - Philip Wesley

Wow.
What an incoherant self serving ego stroke that was.

That is my opinion based entirely on the words you used. The posting of your life story to seperate yourself from "the man" was inane.

You are doing what you accuse others of. You are trying to use your "minority status" to gain credibility while bashing those who question Mr. Thompson's opinions on the basis of his *words*...not his "majority" status.
You're a mess, son.

I wasn't aware Jack Thompson was white until you pointed it out. Does it matter? I don't think people are forming their opinions of him based on what he might look like. That sounds a lot like freshman psych to me...

People are saying what they are saying because his tactics are over the top, ridiculous and only intended to keep his name in the paper/blossphere/etc. Many pundits keep their head above the water by making provocative statements and acting in this manner.
(controversy sells, right? ask Bill O'Reilly, Al Frankin)

I just wonder what sort of projects Jack would move onto if suddenly his moral crusade were decided in his favor. Would he move onto purging other forms of *entertainment* of filth or maybe something that truly does affect the lives of real people. (Do you know anyone that was shot as a result of GTA? I don't.)

While I applaud your effort in playing devil's advocate, I think your glaring use of sterotypes to make a point is sickening. (This is that "everything in its box" mentality that is helping to destroy objective journalism. Please change that before you escape your college-coccoon and join the publishing world)

I propose a game that allows me to kill Jack Thompson. The player controls Jack Thompson and must guide him through traffic while chasing an ambulance on foot. The point isn't to actually reach the ambulance, but to KILL JACK THOMPSON by guiding him in front of oncoming traffic. Ragdoll physics and a realistic Jack Thompson model included. It's just a game, wacko Jacko.

What rockstar should really do is create a mission in the next GTA Jack Thompsons idea for the game. Help this father seek revenge sorta thing...

And I think most of you are missing the pointt. Hes not offering to pay for the game at all, he is saying if you were to do it I would donate 10K to a charity...so the game company is footing the entire bill.

And Jack last time you posted on here I wrote you a long post with some specific questions. It would be nice of you to respond to them

Does anyone here really think that violent video games should be sold to kids? I enjoy playing them(Halo, Doom, ect.), but I agree that it should be regulated better. I wish all states would sign laws like California just did. If things were more tightly regulated, we could still play our games w/o having to listen to stuff like this.

That being said, as always Jack Thompson is going about this the wrong way. When he acts like this, it makes me want to roll my eyes. I am sure he looks like a nut to a lot of people. If he would approach the situation in a more logical way, he would probobly get what he wants.