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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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James, thanks for the info. Any info about the iPod and the X360? Do you know, or can you find out if I can use the Shuffle as a memorycard and access the music off it?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad someone else is really excited about the multimedia features and the customization/Xbox Live stuff as much as I am.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I remember reading some info about streaming movies from my pc to the xbox via ethernet or USB, and playing them on tv. Is this possible?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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this whole iPod hyping is gonna be a big disappoint for purchasers of the 360. from what i've read, the 360 will only play unencrypted songs on the iPod. so pretty much, only your mp3s that you've copied there yourself and not purchased music, say from iTunes. hopefully everyone will say "duh", but i'm sure there are tons of people who won't, and they're going to be disappointed.

i assume the shuffle can be used. i mean, can you use it like a usb drive, ie. plug it in and drag and drop files into it from within explorer?

the same thing is true with streaming content. from what i've read, this only works with MediaCenter, which sucks for me.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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i was there last night too, don't you think they really shot themselves in the foot using such small monitors? to me, it just reinforced the whole notion of "PC Game in a Console". Gamers are used to seeing such high resolution at those sizes.

if they had these games running on home theater sized TVs, i'm sure the impression would have been markedly different. even if these are just repackaged, mass market PC games, you don't see them often in living room size - and that's really what the 360 brings.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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actually, my biggest question is what type of media can it play. does it play DivXs,XVids, and MPEG1&2 or only Windows Media content?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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So... how about multiple player homes?

The Xbox sorely neglected us. Obnoxiously so. Will the 360? Can we easily have 3 profiles for one machine?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Any word on other mp3 players? I've heard everything about the iPod functionality, but nothing about other brands. Personally, I have a Creative Zen Micro and would definitely be interested in finding out.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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These features are what is going to make this console great, and these features are going to give microsoft the edge over Sony.
My only worry is that only 20% of Xbox users used Live. I hope Microsoft has incentives to get people to buy the gold package of Live. Even still, Silver is free and you will still get these features, but if you don't have broadband, then you really don't have anything to be excited about except the games...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Gamer Jay, Yes, it will work with other MP3 players. When you plug it in, it will recognize the device as an external hdd, and will treat it as read only. It will be able to play them (I am not sure how the folder structures will work for this). Apparently, you could get an external hdd with all your mp3s on it and plug that into the xbox360, and it will play them. That would be the easiest way to get mp3s from your computer (if you don't have media center or an mp3 player). I am not sure about the shuffle, but if the xbox360 treats it like a flash drive, it should still work...

XBOX360 WONT WORK ON APPLE's MUSIC FORMAT!!! If you buy songs from iTunes, make sure you burn them to a disk, and then rip them to your PC as MP3s in order to hear them on xbox360.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Great!

XBox 360 = XBox Live Upgrade!!1

Where is my wallet!??
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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As soon as possible, please get a bunch of screenshots of Xbox 360 running on a regular 4:3 CRT television.

Most of us have them, and can't afford to upgrade to HDTV.

Please show us ASAP!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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what's really unacceptable is the video implementation. no divx (even my dvd player can do that), no streaming without media center. and if you have a media center and you stream than it can only be wmv :(
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Any mp3 player or digital camera with USB support should work just fine.

You don't need Media Center to stream content from your computer. The MC part of it is for functionality like any other MC Extender (live TV, recorded shows, etc).

So for non-MC computers, think of it this way: If you have audio or picture files on your system, Xbox 360 can stream it without a problem.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I have no desire to "jack in" to Live. In the 25+ years I've been playing games there have only been about 5 games that I've played multiplayer, the most recent being Counter-Strike. Now I have no desire to play online anymore.

I think it's the experience that is lacking: the load times, the joining of games, the players themselves, the repetitiveness of each round, etc. Single-player games are more involving and rewarding. Games are an art form and should be experienced as the creators intended, IMHO.

I realize that I'm the exception and that MS wants to make oodles and oodles of money. There are millions of people out there that are just getting into games and are very new to online play, therefore I'm obviously not a part of MS' target market. I just hope that Sony and Nintendo understand that the reason for MS' "success" with the Xbox is solely based on the fact that 98% of people use Windows, not because it's an online game machine.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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These features are great. I cannot wait to connect my IPOD and PSP to the X360. As far as music goes, I do not buy encryted music. I copy straight from my MUSIC CD's that are on my HD and then to my IPOD. Why would anyone pay for music they cannot use anywhere?

As far as multiple GT's on one X360 this is also posible, MS has you covered.

XBL user base will grow to 3 million easy by next year since anyone with DSL/Cable IPS connection has instant access without paying money. You will not be able to play games but you will have access to the market place and other things.

I am so jealous (LOL) that peeps are testing and not me. When is MS bringing the show to Chicago?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Wow. UI nirvana.

will be good to see this in actual form.

My only hangup is that there are so many killer games now, with xbox live that there is no real reason to upgrade.

At least not out of the gate.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Nice review, however I must ask... xbox 1.5 ..? No gamers are saying this, this a line From Kenny Boy over at Sony! I would hope you do not attach MS talking points on Sony to describe their console.

As far as nex gen games.. there are plenty. Nexgen can mean soo many things to different people. The games are obviously better graphically just by being HD compliant, artistic style maybe a whole different arena and a more justified complaint. I think too much high expectations on 1st gen games is the problem. Does anyone remember the 1st gen games for Ps2 (Horrible), and we were expecting toy story 2 visuals.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I think that the idea of watching your friend(s)
playing a game that your not via the Live TV function is cool. That means even if you dont have that particular game that your friend has, you can watch him playing the game in action at your house on your TV. XBOX 360 RULEZ
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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None of my music is encrypted since its all downloaded from Piratebay.org, long live Bittorrent!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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XBOX 1.5...Nig#@a Please. The XBOX-360 comes "Fully Loaded". I already look forward to using the 'Blades' feature. I have not been on XBOX-LIVE since Feb 05 so i'm now trying to create a new 'GamerTag'. I already have a list. have a question though...Can we create a two word 'GamerTag'?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Will xbox360 be nexgen console or a multimedia hub? I was hoping the first option but so far I see a lot of excitement for the second. I want new games, innovative and really nextgen games.

PS: I'll keep my old xbox till sony releases the PS3, then Ill decide which way to go.


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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Can the Xbox 360 play an iPod that is formatted for a Mac? That is, NOT in FAT format? An iPod can't sync to a mac if it is FAT formatted.

Also, can it play NON-encrypted AAC files? That is, if you rip a CD straight to AAC (non-iTunes Music Store)

My guess is the answer is no to both, even though they would be simple enough to impliment...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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In addition to MP3 format, I read somewhere a couple of months back that the 360 will also play WMA and WAV format. Which is good since I have my CD collection (about 70 GB in size) ripped to WMA.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Will it play my pron?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Even With all that new interface it is still a XBOX 1.5 , Games are the important thing here. Everything else is a make up for marketing.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think you need a media center pc to stream music or videos. With Windows Media Connect you are supposed to be able to stream stuff to your 360 and it is a free download from the Windows Update page. Go download it and stop bitching that you need a media center pc to stream your porn and stolen music. And please, who actually buys music from iTunes?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Maybe James Ransom-Wiley can clear the air...

.1. Will the 360 play songs from the ipod library? Not songs purchased from the Music Store, just mp3s that are organized in the ipod. I beleive Trixie (of xbox.com) said this is indeed true.

.2. What will Media Center Edition be required for? Will streaming music from the PC for use in-game require MCE? How about streaming music to use with visualizers ... streaming video, photos?

Obviously, the Tivo-like functions (TV stuff) is going to require MCE ... is XP for most everything else?

.3. (this is a bit off-topic) Do you beleive an adaptor will be available for using the controller S on the 360? Would you want that?

.4. Have you heard or seen anything more about wireless headsets? *That'd* be a true wireless experience, and I'm surprised we're not hearing more about it from MS

and finally,

.5. Why the 1.5 comments? Are the graphics bad? The audio not good? It feels cheap?

Is the 360 less of a jump over xbox than PS2 was over Playstation? It seems with all the extra features, extra functions and better audio/video that it's a bigger jump. But you tell me ...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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FYI - Per a chat with the MCE team, you can stream music, pictures, *AND* video from WinXP Home, Pro, and MCE. You'll only get the extender functionality (TV, recording, yada yada yada) if you have a WinXP MCE machine.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Were you able to tell how well it handles heat dissipation? Fan or DVD drive noise level? Just curious.

I'm assuming from the picture that the consoles had the hard drive attached. Any comments on load times?

I don't know why I'm asking all this. I'll have one next month. But you know...Inquiring minds and all.

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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I like the whole XBL integration idea, but the fact that I have to pay MS $8 per month just to host games using my own bandwidth really turns me off.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah this multimedia thing will be a gas. Now, If I can only get some monumental games that will lure me into turning on the 360 in the first place, we'll be in business...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Right on, #29. XBOX360 will find media on your networked XP machines and play it back. But the richest media experience will be with a MCE machine.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Its funny to watch the fanboys taking such offense to an article, it's almost comical.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Media Center PCs are unbearable. Noisy. Impossible to cool. Bloated software. Features that belong in hardware.

This being said, it's a big fad right now...cool-toys lovers, geeks and nerds are going to keep it going for a while, then it will fade. Because fads always fade eventually.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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After looking over the launch titles I've decided to wait until next Christmas to decide on my next-gen gaming platform...

Theres certain to be a drought after launch like there was for every gaming platform I have ever owned... Maybe by next Christmas MS will have a better selection of games to combat the assumed PS3 launch.

Ultimately, I don't feel like having it first just to have a $400+ conversation piece...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I don't git whats 1.5 about the 360. Personally im excited.

Maybe its because the xbox was way overpowered for this gen, so it appears to be a smaller leap forward

The ps2 on the other hand was way underpowered and it appears to be have a bigger leap to the ps3?

And since ps3 is about equal to the 360 (maybe a little better), I think the jump looks alot bigger, but there both still really the same power
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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If you look at the specs of the Hardware and Processing Power, there is no way that the XBOX 360 is just an Upgrade to the Original. Thats just silly to call it a 1.5 when you know what Power it has. We'll eventually see games that will really harness this Power and make for some exciting times. :)
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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regarding comment number 29, did the mce team specify what video formats you would be able to stream? if not we can only assume the microsoft standard, of which none of the videos in my collection are. a modified xbox 1 works great for streaming everything already, and since i dont have a high def television ill probably wait awhile to buy this console, since it usually takes a few years for the good games to come out. plus i would then be able to buy elder scrolls oblivion (the only game id spend any amount of cash for) for around ten dollars. unless someone puts together a decent mmorpg for this thing, in which case all bets are off?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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ok so you guys say that you can stream video without media center right ? do I need this free entender thing from M$ ? My main concern is will it play VCD .bin files like my current X-Box ?????????
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"The real Xbox 360 can only function when its hooked into the network, Xbox Live. "

This may be true, but what reason is there for people to pay for Xbox Live if they aren't paying for it now with the current Xbox (10% - and some accounts cant even play games- so less than 10%)? I see no reason. Broadband penetration has peaked, Xbox Live still costs money, and if the current online games didn't entice consumers, the titles I've seen for Xbox360 won't either. And that's what this whole article boils down to. It may be the best thing ever, but I don't see how MS plans to get 50% of the Xbox360 owners on Live.

Most of these features described are nice, but nothing new to PC gamers. And they don't need to pay an extra fee to play games. I wouldn't call it "innovative". Playing music across the network is a gimmick, like playing movies, and a lot of those other things. The games are going to make or break the system; the majority (80-90%) probably won't use Live nor the other "cool" features.

You may knock my constant mention of an Xbox Live fee and claim the service wouldn't be as good without a fee. Well, the consumer clearly doesn't care. They bought a game, they have an ISP, they want to play the game online. Period. If companies lose money selling hardware, they are going to have to lose money supporting online play if they want people to actually play online. That's the reality of the situation. Nintendo does that, but takes it a step further- they give you the ISP for free as well. Sony could easily crush Xbox Live by giving a similar service for free and have better multimedia features that will make reviewers like this poop themselves. The hardware to be a better multimedia system is there. Now if both companies charge for a service, it's only going to end up helping Nintendo in the long run. And they both will get 10%-25% usage at best.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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im tierd of this xbox 1.5 crap the graphical detail between the ps3 and xbox 360 will be unnoticeable look at gears of war and pgr3 they both look absolutly amazing. and about call of duty 2 the graphics arent mindblowing but they are very good and the ai is just insane. also as a side note a while back ign compared the ps3 and x360s numbers and said that the ps3 was more powerfull for aplications other than gaming but the 360 had more bandwidth and more power for gaming
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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*SIGH*.

SO tired of the "Xbox 1.5" argument.

Just exactly WHAT would make the 360 a true upgrade? Virtual reality? Tactile gaming? Smell-o-rama gameplay?

The fact is, people who keep saying that the 360 is "Xbox 1.5" have NO CLUE what would make it truly an "Xbox 2.0". Basically, they just like to hear themselves badmouth anything and everything.

Are we all going to do this for each of the coming consoles? Is the media going to say that the PS 3 is really the "PS 2.22764" because it doesn't have the ability to interface directly with your brain?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"Media Center PCs are unbearable. Noisy. Impossible to cool. Bloated software. Features that belong in hardware."

Dumbass. I own a Media Center PC and it runs just fine. So I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Noisy? WTF? Impossible to cool? Yea only if you have maybe 1 fan lol.

Meh. I will be using MY media center with my 360, while you won't.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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#43

I feel sorry for you.
A mouth full of insults and an empty skull go well together, though.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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The reason why people are saying it's an Xbox 1.5 is because...really there's nothing else to compare it to, well except those pre-rendered movie they saw on Killzone *ahem*. I wouldn't trust IGN or any publications for analyzing any hardware specs, for crying out loud they are editors, not engineers. Most people who calls the 360 a Xbox 1.5 are those who are mostly followers of Sony or Nintendo. Ironically, it's Ken Katuragi blurted it out *cough*. And it's amazing how many Nintendo/Sony fans we find in a Xbox360 topic. Oh yeah that's right...there's next to nothing about the PS3 or Revolution.

Now what's up with all the complaints on a $50+/year on Xbox Live service? Heck people pays more than that a year for BASIC cable tv. Even Blizzard's WoW monthly rates are higher than Live's rate, and that's for ONE game.

Conclusion: No matter what MS tries, most people will complain. When Sony or Nintendo screws up, people find a way to admire their "efforts." If people wants innovation or a different kind of experience, look for an old Virtual Boy system, or bug Nintendo to re-release a color version. Heck go to the pawn shop and look for a Power Glove.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Oh yeah...Microsoft...the king of innovation...20 years of OS development and still the same lame desktop interface...

Microsoft works hard under pressure only...Sony is good to give them a hard time.

Netscape was good to give them a hard time. When Netscape disappeared, Internet Explorer stopped evolving.

A strong Sony is the best way to push Microsoft to do their best.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Id like to establish that comparing OS's and game consols isn't really a good argument of y you support sony.

Yes it is true that good competition is good for the consumer.

I think xbl is an awsome service compared to ps2 garbage. I will hapily pay 50 bucks for xbox live. by the way wut r ppl complaining about the price for? the ps2 you had to buy an adapter anyway.

Setting up the ps2 is a pain is my ass. I love the auto-detect stuff for the xbox.

Socom 2 used to take up most of my online time, but now i play multiple titles for xbl.

I love the common gamertag for every game.

I personally think its superior to the ps2 and think the 360's online service will b the better than the ps3.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Although I don't own an Xbox, Xbox Live has always been really fascinating to me, even moreso now with the new ranking/tracking functionality.

Some of the other new features (soundtrack customization, shareable Live Arcade games, etc.) sound pretty good, but I wonder if they'll end up being forgotten about or passed over by developers. I can't help but be reminded of how when the GBA and DS first appeared, single-cart multiplayer was a heavily-touted feature, but then games coming out just months later required multiple carts for the "full" multiplayer experience. I hope the Xbox 360's features aren't similarly sacrificed.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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post #s47 and 48...
I thnk you are both completely right - competition is good for the consumer, for it is the competitive nature of our economy that is responsible for all the great technological advancements, cool new products, etc... So, I love it when Nintendo and Sony come up with cool ideas and/or good products, b/c that will just feed rivalry among the industry players and then act as a catalyst for Microsoft to come-up with an even better idea in 2010. Hell...the competition resulting from our capitalistic socieity was obviously so successful that it is now the template; the norm; the standard. This is why communism failed people!

Anyway, of course Microsoft is lazy about product upgrades (i.e. Internet Explorer) and such if their is no real competitive force breathing down its neck. This is they way most profit-based organizations work. Otherwise, it would be considrered a waste of money. So, anyway, enough of all this pussy-squacking bs from everyone bitching about which systems will kick the most ass. Who gives a shit which one it is! We want them all to be good b/c that will increase the degree of rivalry and make the industry more competitive, thereby creating BETTER products. This isn't high school people. We don't have to cheer for only our home team. There's nothing wrong with liking and respecting all the major companies and their respective VG consoles.
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