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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Is there going to be a good steering wheel to go along with this game??? I believe the Logitech pro with force feedback makes GT4 worth owning, it's just not the same to play with a joystick, I really hope they have a plan for this. I would def pay $150 for a great steering wheel to go along with this game. I have yet to see this addressed anywhere. Why hasnt anyone asked about this yet??
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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what a joke. Lets all stop arguing for now. The PS3 isn't anywhere near ready yet and lets face it we have all the fun of a new console arriving this year (as in very soon). Even sony fanboys must be able to appreciate how much fun this is going to be.
Once the playstation picks up speed with some actually fully playable game play then we can all get excited about that too.

I thought we were all gamers intent on achieving a higher state of gaming happiness but it would appear we are more like front line soldiers baying for blood.

(apologies for any spelling mistakes).

So to recap lets all be happy for the newest kid on the block as a whole gaming community for once even if you're not interested in getting one at launch.

the end.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I believe its too early to be a fanboy for sony or microsoft. Neither have been released and idiots are already talking shit for no reason. Just back and forth bickering and psuedo-geek speak. Why dont intelligent people wait until a few months after ps3 comes out so we can have the real low-down on BOTH platforms? Oh thats right, intelligent people will. However the masses are either eager to blow a gaming load or money is no object and they plan on buying both (hopefully the latter of suggestions).
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Talking about Ken - was his fireball more powerful than Ryu or was it just his high kick - I just can't work it out!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Right, once and for all!- The PS3 will no doubt be more powerful then the XBOX 360 because of the cell chip (which is based on a human hair folicle) scientists have always strived for perfection and using human DNA will no doubt cause at least 3 wats of power to run through the microchip thin cucuit board, thus causes a sloar flare (chemical reaction with nylon) and games that run at least 30-40 frames faster the the chip that is not based on yeast extracts. Warning **MAY CONTAIN NUTS**
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Question: I have played Project Gothem 2 since the day of release (collecting nearly 300 Kudos!) and have yet to unlock 'Gothem City'. If any of you ace gamers have managed to unlock it (or is it a christmas egg) can you tell me if it is the Gothem from Batman (including sequals)or the new Batman Begins as they are both architecturaly very different - i think that the fisrt Batman film would be the best curcuit but you would definately need that thing thats hooks around the lampost to help ot on the 'tight turns'!!
Hope you can help me out . . thanks guys
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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yeah,trickey one this is.you need to go to the menu screen and press up,down,right,left,hold down the A button for about 5 secs,that should unlock gothem city,hope this helps you out "barkin" happy gaming!!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks cliffy it worked a treat! Only problem is all of the tracks are in the dark and if you play the track in reverse you are going up hill all of the time so you cant see the corners coming - it's as though this track was designed for the Batmobile (which has a low centre of gravity and thus greater turning ability). Is the Batmobile unlockable - I've picked a black Farrari but its not the same!
p.s. Cliffy were you 'Hollowcrackle' on Phantasy Star online on the Dreamcast? Though i recognised the handwriting....
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Excellent!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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This game is why I must have a 360.

PDZ can be the stinkiest pile of crap ever released, I don't care. DOA4 can be just like DOA Ultimate with slightly better graphics, I'll still love it...PGR3 looks worth a $400 hardware investment if any game ever did.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Looks awesome. Think this'll be one of my launch tittle games. GothamTV doesn't really appeal to me however.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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cool review...glad u didnt focus on the graphics...thats a given with this game...i think this is the only " must have" next gen game so far ...PGR is turining out to be a great franchise for M$...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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guys head down to www.origenxbox360.com for places 3 & 4 plus 5 & 6 competition entries...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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the first Xbox360 title that looks amazing and has next gen features
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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While the graphics might be stunning, are they really next gen? And is the LIVE experience really worthy of being called next gen? It's obvious by seeing MGS4 that racing games on the PS3 will be much better graphically. Also, when Sony makes their online announcement soon, I'm sure we'll see that they're online experience will be better too. Can I get a holla from Dmitri, b, and damoun?!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Framerate solid?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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this is really disappointing. this is totally not next-gen enough. this is really more like xbox 1.01. the PS3 when sony announces for the second time their online service and ambitions is going to blow this out of the water. sure sony promised us downloadable games and downloadable episodic game content back in 2000, but they're gonna finally deliver it in 2006 or 2007 or something, and it's going to blow this stupid shit out of the water!!!! i bet it'll also usher in world peace!!!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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bloo gtf outta here with that bull son...holla at me a year from now when the console actually EXIST and when theres ACTUALLY some GAME FOOTAGE..not " movies" and not " movies running on hardware" ..when i see GAMEPLAY and actual GAMES..then u can open your mouth..until then..go sit in time out for having the brain of a stomach....
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Did someone say PGR30FPS.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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3 comments in a row actually saying something positive.

Have we broken a record? Is joystiq.com broken? Hax?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I've seen the hi-res videos and it looks good, very good. Next-gen? We'll, nothing compared to MGS4, but still very nice. I applaud what they're attempting with the GothamTV, it sounds like fun. I think this is the only launch title that's not disappointing. Some of the PC ones look ok as well (CoD2 and Elder Scrolls), but I'll just play them on PC...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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@#5 - Bloo (formerly Glenn):
[quote]While the graphics might be stunning, are they really next gen? And is the LIVE experience really worthy of being called next gen? It's obvious by seeing MGS4 that racing games on the PS3 will be much better graphically. Also, when Sony makes their online announcement soon, I'm sure we'll see that they're online experience will be better too. Can I get a holla from Dmitri, b, and damoun?![/quote]

If ever there was a fanboy statement this is it. You are basing your judegement of PGR3's real-time hands-on gameplay on Sony's motion-captured psuedo-CGI trailer MGS4 or confirmed CGI trailers of Killzone.

Well, I will wait till the end of the month for the Playstation festival, and once Sony announces their online plans. I don't know what the hell people expect from the first wave of 'next gen' games beyond what PGR3 is showing, but I have a hunch all the CGI-crazed fools are in for a rude shock when the PS3 debuts. I would love to see the reactions of the media too.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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First off, MGS4 wasn't all that.. Actualy quite the Opposite, the Textures are Horrible and the whole think looks dull aside from.. Snakes Face, Thats the only good looking thing I saw in the Trailer. And how can you, from this, say that PS3 racing games will look better? Bloo, how much of a fanboy can you be?

PGR3 looks incredible, a true Next Gen game (More than I was expecting from a launch title)and Live is amazing, I have a lot of fun playing on Live with PGR2 and I don't think I will EVER even consider buying a racing game that doesn't have Online play in the future.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Bloo It sounds like you are placing a lot of faith n Sony and things they MIGHT announce.

This game will be here in a few weeks. people have played it. It isn't vapor or dreams. It is real.

If history is any indication, the PS3 will live up to about 1/5 of the hype around it.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Bloo It sounds like you are placing a lot of faith n Sony and things they MIGHT announce.

This game will be here in a few weeks. people have played it. It isn't vapor or dreams. It is real.

If history is any indication, the PS3 will live up to about 1/5 of the hype around it.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, just a reminder to everyone that MGS4 was real-time. There's a freely available video demonstrating it...user-controlled camera, changing lighting/shadows, etc...
Do your homework before posting please.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I may just decide to buy a 360. Wow, imagine the graphics on the PS3...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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soco, You are a fucking Retard.

I don't normally make Posts like that but yours was so mindbogglingly stupid that I could not contain myself.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"I may just decide to buy a 360. Wow, imagine the graphics on the PS3..."

I guess thats all you can do.. Imagine.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"bloo gtf outta here with that bull son...holla at me a year from now when the console actually EXIST and when theres ACTUALLY some GAME FOOTAGE..not " movies" and not " movies running on hardware" ..when i see GAMEPLAY and actual GAMES..then u can open your mouth..until then..go sit in time out for having the brain of a stomach...."

What bull? The console does exist. Kutaragi (or whatever) worked out for 3 months just to lift it. Didn't you see the pictures? How much more game footage do you need than Kojima pausing the MGS4 "movie" and spinning it around in real time? That's more than 100% proof right there! Anyhow, please point me to time out so I can go sit there. Also, do you know anyhwere where I can learn what sarcasm means?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Can't wait!!
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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20# u obviously dont undertstand what he meant, swiveling a camera is nothing compared with REAL gameplay such as moving snake around etc.. its much less video intensive.
pgr3 kicks ass i have played this game and you guys make me laugh 'not next gen' LMFAO i would just like to reinforce that the game looks 100% better in motion on a TV and not in a small box in your media player.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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20# u obviously dont undertstand what he meant, swiveling a camera is nothing compared with REAL gameplay such as moving snake around etc.. its much less video intensive.
pgr3 kicks ass i have played this game and you guys make me laugh 'not next gen' LMFAO i would just like to reinforce that the game looks 100% better in motion on a TV and not in a small box in your media player.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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bloo...your attempt at sarcasm was about as successful as your 5th attempt at passing the 4th grade...go play with your legos...

and im sorry to all the sony fanboys..your right..MGS4 was playable at TGS...u cud independently move snake around and interact with the enviroment..and..oh wait..u cudnt...???...dam...
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Is it just me or does anyone else find it incredibly stupid to compare 2 consoles seeing that one is a little over a month from release with playable games and the other is going on a spec sheet and a MGS4 trailer?

I mean,i'm only saying that about Sony because they arent far along enough yet to show actual playable products,but why do you bother comparing an unfinished console and what it can "supposedly" do compared to one that's finished and we know what it actually CAN do.

The PS3 and Xbox360 will look similiar.You people are acting like it's going to be a hardware jump from 8 Track to Dolby Mastered Digital Surround Sound.

If you're actually holding out for a console because of ONE game trailer I really pity you and I honestly don't care which company put it out.If you're buying a console for graphics,then why even bother to compare them? Just buy a PC and skip right over the 360,Revolution,and PS3.Just skip right over console gaming altogether actually because PCs will always be better looking.

Seriously,if everyone is too caught up in WTFGHZ and OMGFLOPS then I guess Nintendo is going straight down the shitter with the Revolution because it probably won't produce visuals like the 360/PS3.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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also in reference to sony's online plans they can announce whatever they want they wont have anything on XBL for a while after its released because they have no online infrastructure built up ps2 online at the moment is a laggy shambles, i give it a year after release of ps3 for a service worth trying also if you think that its going to be free you are a retard, i mean come on its sony .
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Listen very carefully people, the MGS4 trailer was a movie running in real time. All that was manipulated were camera angles and colors.

Sony is extremely good at tricking their dumbass loyalists. When MGS4 is released with gameplay, environments and all that good stuff loaded in the game will take a big hit grpahically from what was shown. Stop the ignorance.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"bloo...your attempt at sarcasm was about as successful as your 5th attempt at passing the 4th grade...go play with your legos..."

I never even attempted the 4th grade as I dropped out after kindergarten to run a ferret meat processing plant in Northern California. In any event, how many attempts did it take you to pass the 4th grade if you couldn't figure out my sarcasm? Also, just so you know, the plural of Lego is not Legos. I'm going to build a yellow castle in your honor.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry to double post,but this shit has really gotten out of hand with the bickering between everyone like they actually work for the 2 companies.

I will admit,yes,I was a douche when I first came on this site. Reason? I wanted to get a rise out of people on here by badmouthing Nintendo and saying Microsoft was god (because for some reason it's hated by everyone,I still can't figure it out).I apologize for this. Fact is,I like Nintendo,along with the other companies (not so much support for Sony after their round with the PS2).

But seriously though people,look at what's going on,you're fighting over consoles like you own stock in them and actually have gotten to the point where you let reviewers and other people TELL YOU WHAT YOU LIKE. Remember when you were kids and played videogames? Were you ever pissed off because you got a Sega Genesis when you already owned a Super Nintendo? No,you probably went apeshit because you owned BOTH consoles.

FFS already,who says you can't enjoy both Perfect Dark Zero AND Metal Gear 4? I play DOA3 on my Xbox,but that doesnt mean I can't go and play Virtua Fighter 4 too.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"Also, just so you know, the plural of Lego is not Legos."

Why, yes! We all know it's legi.

Damn unedumacated infidels.

In my opinion, for what it's worth (and it's worth quite a lot, in my opinion, for what it's worth) PGR3 will kick ass in every respect. It's the only game I'm interested in purchasing at launch. In fact, it's the only reason I'm buying a 360 on launch day.

And you know what? There's a bloody good chance I'll pre-order a PS3 too, and the chances are there will only be one or two games I want for that console at launch.

Polygons? Shmolygons. It's how it plays that interests me. Don't adhere to this school of thought? Fine. But I urge you to dust off your N64, as did I, very recently, and play Donkey Kong 64 or similar. Then think back to the last current-gen game that you spent 100 hours playing and still longed for more.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Holla bloo, lol

You gotta admit that this game looks awesome. We'll have to wait for Gran Turismo to see which game exploits each system better. Also I'm not such a fan of racing games anyway. I think that the games that will most likely show us what are these 2 monsters capable off will be RPGs. But any game could do it anyway.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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MGS4 was realtime so was Killzone 2!!! I know it is cuz Sony said so. They promised that those video's - I mean gameplay footage was representative of the games we will be playing on our big-ass, 7 usb port, three 1 gigabyte ethernet ports, shit that has no business being in a game console, overhyped PS3 many years from now. PS3's CG video (damn!!!)... Gameplay footage looks better than 360 realtime.

Don't you guys know that PS3 is not a game sytem? Ken said its a super computer that will cost a lot of money so it will be able to do everything promised.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Oh please Oh please let us make cat and mouse the thing to watch on gotham tv.

Stop comparin consoles just get em all like i will.

Cat and mouse
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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LOL like I said, same shieet everyday on a different headline. Oh yeah the PS3 will blow this crap out. Yeah that MGS4 demonstration, wooohooo damn that's amazing. Honestly, if you turn head over heels to what Sony has shown so far, you're just as dumb as Sony thought you were. It doesn't matter if you tell those people who uses the MGS4 demo to defend the PS3, in the end, they're fans. But it's hilarious to see how many of those fans run around in 360 topics. You find the SAME people over and over saying the same crap.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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MGS4 was realtime. However, it was realtime CGI. This is the cutscene that runs in many video games. Ninja gaiden was amazing on the xbox, but the look of gameplay paled in comparison to the CGI. According to sony MG@4 was CGI running realtime. Better than killzone BS but not gameplay.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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"However, it was realtime CGI. This is the cutscene that runs in many video games. Ninja gaiden was amazing on the xbox, but the look of gameplay paled in comparison to the CGI. According to sony MG@4 was CGI running realtime"

Instead of CGI you should really refer to it as pre-rendered. CGI is the acronym that is used for computer genrerated imagery used for film or TV (i.e. special effects). While I agree to the use of CGI to describe the cutscenes in Ninja Gaiden, that is not the same process used for MGS4.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for the detailed review James, but you didn't answer the only question I really have about PGR3... How Does It Play?

How was the physics, the handling, the differences between cars? I know this is an 'arcade racer', but do the cars handle like 'Pole Position' or is the action a little more realistic?

thanks...

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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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I own a Ps2 and XBOX. Love both but the XBOX has me alot more often mainly because of it being more powerful and Especially XBOXLIVE. I will be getting a 360 when a game comes out that i just "have to own"! Most likely January or February. In the meantime i'll stick with playing my XBOX and PS2 and every once in a while my Dreamcast ;) And if there is a game that i feel i "have to own" on PS3 i'll try and buy that too. OF course i'll probably be broke by then but hey I can start saving now. ;)
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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Hey stfu jc, we're having the same mindless argument as yesterday, "PS3 vs Xbox360."

If you can't contribute some (hopefully inflamatory) factoid or reference then what are doing here???
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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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OH but i think PGR3 sounds INCREDIBLE in what they have done with it. I'm just saying I can wait to buy it even though i have friends who cant wait. And you know who you are. ;) heh heh.
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