http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/ Joystiq Comments for Sony's strategy includes $300-400 PS3, pre-loaded content on PS3, and new portable video players http://www.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.joystiq.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
i imagine they're going to try and do exactly what the 360 but with bonuses. so they'll offer 2 or 3 games, and maybe a free album and 2x the movie clips, or maybe even a free movie for waiting list purchasers.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Looks like someone is going to get canned...
]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Seriously though,everyone seems to think the other way around,but i'm getting a 360 at launch and it has all my needs covered so why should I bother to pickup a PS3?I don't want a blu ray drive and the 360 has a standard DVD drive which i'm happy with.Call me stubborn but I really do NOT want to buy something newer than DVD.

I guess it comes down to games,like it should be from the start.I mean,if Sony wants me to get their system along with the 360 they better start showing me something and not jump up and down yelling "blu ray".

I'm in a very weird mood and just thought of posting this.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
As for the Blu-Ray, I don't think this strategy will work. I bought my PS2 in part because it was a cheap way to get a DVD player at the time. I don't feel the same way about Blu-Ray though - I don't feel a need to upgrade media at this point, and getting a bargain player isn't reason enough for me, particularly before the latest format skirmish has been settled.

And what's this about portable media players with memory sticks? Seems like we've already got that with the PSP... or is Sony going to split their market by offering a memstick-only device?

The only thing that will make me get the PS3 is if it replicates the features of the failed PSX - PVR, games, media player, DVD burner and memstick support. Of course, that doesn't seem to be in the cards.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
It seems like SOny is moving away from games or something.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
I am pretty confident that we can infer Sony will strike gold a second time here.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Second off...
Sony is whoring their gaming console to sell disks, they refusing to consolidate online gaming, has non-existent playable demos for the PS3, no release date, frantic desperate trashing talking in the direction of Microsoft, and now they are secretly installing software on our computers (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20051103/tc_nf/39083)...

What kind of company are they running over there...

]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
I don't see how they'll offer the same price point as the Xbox 360 though. Is the PS3 supposed to come with an HDD? If the specs were identical I'd say they could just strip it down like the 360 core did, but that doesn't account for the price of Blu-Ray, the Cell, or Bluetooth.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
That being said, it's important to remember that everyone reading this right now is by default an internet nerd, and we have a skewed perception about what matters to the mainstream populace. I suspect that Blu-Ray will be adopted through the sheer number of PS3 consoles pushed. While the improvements of Blu-Ray may or may not matter much to a serious gamer, it's very possible that the mainstream audience will see the PS3 as a package deal (it plays games AND it can play the newest of the new video discs). This would probably hinge upon the PS3 being able to play standard DVDs, of course; it does seem a little early for people to replace their collections AGAIN.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
He's a plant? Then how did he type his post?

Seriously, I'm looking forward to the PS3. The only thing I was worried about was the 'high' price. If it truly has a $300 - $400 price, I'll definitely pass on the 360 for one of these bad boys.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/This must be a hugh loss for sony, since if blu-ray are expensive,plus other parts of the system, sony are taking a big risk on blu-ray. But I guess sony will promote blu-ray players, blu-ray movies as a bigger form of money. "Gotta lose money to make money" thinking.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
And Hollywood Reporter? Why is the entertainment media scooping the game media?]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Quote" the company soon will unveil a line of compact, portable video devices to fill the time gap before PlayStation 3 launches in Japan in March and in the U.S. a year from now"

A year from now,Is this speculation by the author or is he privy to some info that is not public yet?]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
i call this the sony hardweare formula or SHF.

Ps2 selling point cheaper dvd drive = lots of Ps2 90million plus total sales.
Ps3 the same thing cheaper BLUE RAY= lots of ps3 sales.
since sony is the first in the market with the new tecnology for the cheapest amount it sells. in my opinion sony has never care weather they sell games all they care is for the hardware to sell. so for me there is nothing interesting in the ps3 world or in sony. remember this sony is and always will be a hardweare specific company. all they care is for the BLUE RAY to suceed AND for them to be the first to the market wiht it. because it will make them huge profits once the q3 comes around. sony depends on the BLIUE RAY to succed this has nothing to do with the cell nor the xbox 360 cpu. sony is after the big cake. the next gen format wars. and you know why because there studios depend on it and may other studios ie. paramount,warener bro,miramax,lions gate. if they fail then the loose many billions in endorsment. sony is now on the tight rope if you aske me. as far as the other two companies they dont have to worried to much about it. because they are not involve as sony is. they went on the conservative side. also if you watch the ps3 E3 press conference there will be more pointing information that sony is infact first in saying that they were first in the dvd esene. wich in fact they were not. this is bad marketing for sony. BLUE RAY= SELling point well not next gen. they played the same trick with the ps2,seling point dvd,ps3 BLUE RAY. thats why NINTENDO suffer because is the ps2 would have stuck with regular cdrom then nintendo and dreamcast will have been king. because there is not a feture that the consumer wants. sony has always been like this. another example is sony trying to push a new format to detrone apple from there succes. i call it first you WILL SEE A BLUE RAY PORTABLE PLAYER BELIVE ME. sony is very clever but not with me.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
That's what I have to say about that.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Personally, I'm still waiting for a reason to buy any next-gen console. Nobody has shown me any games I'd want yet, and that's still the only reason I buy consoles.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/

Anybody who has an HDTV is definitely looking forward, big time, to the next gen wave of movies. DVD is actually a step back from network tv. Unacceptable.

Bring on the PS3. Sony's loss will be my gain]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
I think there are better games on Playstation than the whole Xbox and Gamecube titles combined. They have a lot of shit games for people without a clue, but they have games that people want, and these are exlusives.

DOA is not even in the same league as Tekken.
Halo overrated game for people who have no friends.. (believe me, i know).

So their PS3 library games will be just as great. Sony is more innovative than MS. We know this. Again we established that Sony would rather let game developers start their own online stratergy --> this is a good thing for Sony and people who don't play games on the net. And believe me, there are a lot of them.

You MS fanboys really have to be so cynical each time a +ve comment is said about Sony, even if it didn't say anything about the 360. Which is by far the most overrated piece of crap ever, to be called next generation.

So what if Sony loves their own products that much. I do. Just because you people are poor and live in your mothers basement.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Also, I still believe the Revolution will kick Xbox 360's and PS3's butt. Why? Nintendo are making game development cheaper and will have a larger library than the PS3 because PS3 is difficult to develop for.

Anyway, good luck, Sony. w00t. Be a Microsoft and lose money!]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
1. Sony does not care about games or gamers, it cares about money.
2. Gamers are early adopters of new technology.
3. Gamers allow Sony to install a user base for a product it would otherwise find difficult to sell (Blu-Ray, UMD).

Don't you feel used?]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Who has more games for their consoles than Sony?

What are you talking about?

There will be a ton of good games for the sony ps3, you read it here first.

Every generation, Sony consoles offer something great to play, deny/hate if you want but there have been some great games released on the PS consoles.

PS1-FF7, Tomb Raider, MGS, GT, Res Evil, Intelligent Cube,Suikoden
PS2-GTA3, SOCOM, Ico, God of War, Devil May Cry series, Ratchet series, Sly Cooper series, Katamari Damacy
I guarantee PS3 will have games, more games (Don't forget that game companies are primarily Japanese), and very fun games.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
There will be more Blu Rays released. Every company but one is on board. And Sony is a huge Movie Company]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
I just wish people would grow up sometimes. Buy the consoles you want and enjoy them. All this mine is better then yours gets boring. Who cares. These are video game systems. Get on with your life. Go outside and enjoy the sunshine.


]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
I'm not saying it's true,i'm just saying what i've come to assume from all your posts.It looks like you're just buying a blu ray player that can also play games on it.You guys seem so hell bent on this blu ray drive.Is there any blu ray discs even out for sale on the market yet? I still think we need to perfect DVD,not make ANOTHER new format. Jesus it wasnt THAT long ago that DVD came out.

It seems like the normal,9 to 5 working class people get the shaft for the richer Rockafellers this upcoming generation by installing a drive that supports HDTVs out of the box. Well,what if I don't own an HDTV,then where's my package that lets me save $100 for something I don't need? I still think 2 dual layered DVDs are WELL ENOUGH space for developers.Just perfect DVD and compression and we have a solution.

But as we all know,it's easier to break it than to build it correct.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/ Sony Corporation is a hardweare company.right. all they see is for their hardweare to sell. ie. BLUE RAY,WALKMANDec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Both Sony and Microsoft face class-action lawsuits for DVD drive failures, so i don't hold a lot of faith in the PS3's blu-ray drive in the first two revisions of the console at least :]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
This was to be humourous, not slanderous. I'm sitting on the fence until this baby comes out. By the way, when is it really supposed to come out? When's the date for Japan? Anyone know?]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
Who knows to what new lows Sony will take Blu-Ray DRM?]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/04/sonys-strategy-includes-300-400-ps3-pre-loaded-content-on/
I know plenty of people who's purchase decision of PS2 was based on the DVD drive. Is it because Sony was pushing the DVD format? No, it was the whole industry. If the industry pushes BlueRay, everyone will want to get a BlueRay player. And since the PS3 is cheaper than standalone ones, why not get a PS3? An incentive is the fact Sony has has the best and most games for their systems the past two generations.

Why would any of this change now? You have to remember, Sony is on top, folks. The PS3 is going to sell like mad regardless. To think the PS3 will flop or be crushed by the 360 is an absurd prospect. However the opposite is not. Sony is expecting to continue their dominance over MS.

The burden of proving the Xbox360 should be the console everyone should get is on you. And I don't see anything working in 360's favor significantly enough to pull people away from Sony. Unified online format? That's it. Compared to a BlueRay drive, that is weak. People don't care about online play as much as they like getting a $1000 product for $400 + a huge bundle of extras. Xbox Live is tiny now, it won't get much bigger next gen. Broadband penetration peaked years ago. If Xbox Live can't get more than 10% of people signed up (gaming account or not), 360 isn't going change that. Until some proof is shown that the majority of console gamers want to pay to play for games online they've already paid for, Xbox Live means nothing more than it means now. So why should anyone get a Xbox360? It stands to reason PS3 is packed with more software and hardware features, will have more games, better games (by statistical probablility, if anything), and "Playstation" is still THE name in gaming.

Nintendo didn't lose market dominance to Sony because N64 and PS1 were close, similarly featured systems. Sony came out with all guns blazing like bats out of hell and TOOK it from Nintendo forcibly. You'd be kidding yourself if you think MS is in that position to do it to Sony now.]]>Dec 18th 2005 9:06PM