"Could Nintendo, a company notorious for long development cycles (they even pushed Zelda past the holiday season to finish it)."

Could Nintendo what? Could Nintendo do what? Stop teasing what is it? What are they gonna do?

Looks like someone lost their train of thought.

Indeed, and that person has been severely fwapped.

Most heinously.

uh...one button to press? I think part of the challenge of a fighting game is in the button layout and it's mechanic...how simplictic do they need to get??!!!?

Smash Bros has taken up so much of my time. It's become the standard game for all my old highschool friends. I'm always trying to find info on the next one.

Can't wait till the new one.

Does anyone remember that rumor about Nintendo teaming up wth Tecmo (or some similar company with their own intellectual property rights) to make some sort of "Nintendo vs. Tecmo" game? I read one article about it a long time ago, and haven't heard anything since.

They need more fwapping, as it now says "creat".

Uh if you think back to SSMB it only really required 4 buttons, A, B, L/R and Z. Even then Z wasnt necessary as A and B could be used to grab.

Can wait for it, though i hope they dont change too much, and Less of the clone characters! 100% original moves for each char please.

Hmm~ Just because Sakurai has just now been revealed as the director doesn't necessarily mean that he was just now recruited. The staff members for the DS game Children of Mana wasn't even revealed until after the first screenshots were released, and that game is coming out in Japan in February of next year, four months after the announcement. So for all we know, Super Smash Bros. may be well into its development.

...Although I'm probably just being optimistic. 6_6

#5: I hope it's almost done; Iwata said at TGS he wants SSB to be a launch title. So the more "complete" the game is, the sooner we're getting the Revo :).

He said he was glad that they reduced the number of buttons in general, he never said anything about the next smash bros. But The free style control would actually create an infinate amount of attacks, you could hold both B and A to do a special attack and do a kind of motion for the different kinds.

This system is def looking to be Nintendos most child oriented console to date. You have 2 buttons a D-pad and a magic wand like control. Ill def pick one up for my nephew but how can anybody take this crap on a serious level?

do not feed the troll up above

Pretty Obvious,

Yes. Of course. I mean, we could have an awesome sword-fighting/lightsaber-fighting game, but only kids would love it. And only kids can love a driving game where you don't have to pay Lord-knows-what for a steering wheel peripheral. Also, no adult or teen could ever want free online gaming. Obviously.

This is the most kick ass anouncement since the controller was revealed. I'm absolutely psyched about this! Maybe we'll see some Geolytes from Meteos as playable characters?

Anyway, using the revolution controller and control stick extension would be PERFECT. Here's how:

Control Stick = Move character and jump, like normal.
Z1 = Grab
Z2 = Shield

A Button = A, like normal.
B Button = B, like normal.
D Pad Down = An alternative for jumping.
D Pad Up = Taunt.

See? We even had room for the taunt! Imagine if you could do double smash attacks by waving the controller AND smashing with the stick... awesome.

He was asked on board last E3. The dev kit is familiar for the coders and most of the player models are already complete. This gives the new dircetor 18 months to smooth the game out by next xmas.

I am skeptical of a launch release. More so, I am most concerned that they just get it right. I don't care if it gets released in spring '07, just make it great and esp. make it balanced.

I want Sonic and Tails playable, damnit.

-ahem-

Look, they can take as long as they want. They have a LOT to live up to (SSBM). Having a mediocre SSB game would be the worst video-game-related disappointment ever.

Relatedly, if they plan on using the "wand", then I really hope they get it right. I don't know how they'll do it, but then again, I can't find a flaw with SSBM, so I'm fairly sure they're up to the challenge.

SSBM rules!

this is the game i am most excited to getting, the controller idea is GREAT! and only a fool would say it was for children only,
"no adult or teen could ever want free online gaming. Obviously" this statement made me reailise you were being sarcastic. this'll be the best game EVER! And Kirby rules!

this is the game i am most excited to getting, the controller idea is GREAT! and only a fool would say it was for children only,
"no adult or teen could ever want free online gaming. Obviously" this statement made me reailise you were being sarcastic. this'll be the best game EVER! And Kirby rules!

Actually, I agree with Pretty Obvious. Once you get over the prospects for swords and steering, the controls seem a little too limited. Also, tilt-movement has always been a notoriously shaky way of maneuvering, no pun intended.

So far as free internet goes, that really has no relevance in the conversation. The choices of the higher-ups to go to this propsed "free internet" only matters if the games that are offered are fun. And a large part of that fun is dependant on how the game handles.

The Revolution as a system seems simplistic and geared toward the "Easy Playability" crowd who either dislike or can't handle the comparatively more complex button arrays of the PS3 or XBOX 360.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this; you're entitled your own opinion on the best system. All I'm saying is, with the move toward more unconventional controls (i.e., the DS stylus, the Revolution's proposed two-button/tilt move), they're quickly losing my interest as a gamer.

I like a more reliable-seeming interface, one where you see button and press button, rather than wave something in the air or swipe a stick at a pad and hope it does what you want. With a button, there's basically two main states - pressed or not. With these intuitive controls, it's based on more fine-tuned muscle movements - which opens up more room for error, by machine or user alike.

Okay, no matter how cool it sounds to be slashing up an enemy with the motion of a handle, I think this is ultimately killing the whole concept of a fighting game. It takes a gamer who knows the controller and the combos that work to play a fighting game well. With this whole "Tilt-and-hit" prospect, I have a feeling all sense of skill is going to be lost.

Good news is that they might be able to save themselves some humiliation by reverting to the attachment that makes the "wand" into a typical Wavebird. Nintendo shouldn't waste the Revolution's vast memory by trying to make it respond with the player's hand. Instead, they should use that memory to make more playable characters and, like stated above, have each one with their own unique moves.

Though I do see the new controller as a step forward into virtual reality, I don't find it as a great thing for Super Smash Brothers. Then again, as Nintendo has proved before, they might pull a rabit out of a hat and create a stunning new way to play.

And, for all those who still play racing games while tilting the controller in the direction you want the car to go in an attempt to make the car turn, you're well trained for the Revolution.

About the skill being lost...

Honestly, I'm not sure about that. If anything, it'll force gamers to get up and move. This will have the triple benefit of a) increasing fine motor controls, b) forcing gamers up off their ends for once (And I don't know about you, but I could definitly use it), and c) making everyone playing look very, very silly.

That being said, I don't think that they'll use motion sensitivity for SSBR. I personally can't think of any way it would work. Make it like "Kirby's Tilt n Tumble"? No, not really. Then all fine controls are lost. Move around for special, special moves? Too advanced and finicky, it wouldn't work well with what SSB is (An overly simplified fighting game, for those who aren't sure). It's the simplicity that makes SSB fun, and I think that the developers will realize this and not implement the motion sensors.

And if they do put them in, I leave it up to Nintendo to make it good. I'm and "old school" gamer, and I've grown up on the Nintendo. They have yet to disappoint me (Ignoring the Virtual Boy). Even the DS has exceeded my expectations. We'll have to see.

First off, I am *not* a fanboy. I have coined a new term. I am a Nintendo loyalist. I prefer Nintendo over other companies because of what they have done in the past. Over the years, they have gained my trust, and I honestly believe that they can pull it off. Think about it this way: The first SSB is announced, it is a fighting game in which the only way to kill your opponents is to effectively "ring them out." At the time, it took quite a leap of faith to buy an "off the mainstream" game like that. So, if the controls stay the same (by way of using the controller shell) for SSBR, it is automatically going to be fun. If the controls are innovative enough to use motion, it is yet another "Nintendo Leap of faith" that I am completely willing to take. The question really is: Does Nintendo have a big enough built in fan base to get the Revolution on its feet during the early stages of release? I plan on doing my part.

holy crap, an intelligent debate on the internet!

*ahem* I agree with C-nasty and Rai in their statements on Nintendo probably using the controller shell for SSBR, but knowing Nintendo's track record (paying no mind to the Virtual Boy) and that they've done well with everything they've tried, we really can't worry ourselves about the control scheme.

Bardninja - I know, nobody's threatening anyone's moms yet. Unbelievable!

But yes, I do have to say that the controller shell attachment will be the deciding factor in whether or not I get a Revolution. If it ships with the system, I'll be able to get into games like this and enjoy. If not, then... there are other systems than these.

First off: If you don't like the remote, you can still plug in GCN controllers.

Second, Nintendo likely (key word: likely) knows what they are doing.

Third, SSB is too good of a series to rush. Please, please, PLEASE, give it enough time to be awesome, Nintendo.

Why's everyone calling it a wand/remote/whatever?
It's actualy more mouse-like, as it requires barely any movement like a mouse.
Back on topic: I agree with RoboticSithDrone, if they russh it, it won't be as good. Unless it's online. That'd be sweet no matter what.