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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Gah, I only own two of these (Eternal Darkness and Alien Hominid). I'm a mainstream wh0re! *cries*

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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what about Metal Arms: Glitch in the System ?

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Theyre not really hidden Imo. But Ico, Rez and Ikaruga are definitely classics. Problem is, most of these games are sort of an aquires taste. Not everyone likes top down shooters these days. Not even if theyre really great.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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8 games out of 10, I'm a true gamer (^o^)/

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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funny, I own every single game on that list sans Psychonauts and Rez (Simply because I cannot find a copy of REZ).

My main choice for a game that deserved to be on there is "Metal Arms: Glitch in the system" It's probably not on there because you never had a chance to play it either....

Wonderful controls, difficulty, sense of humor and it's just flat out fun to play.

The "Otogi" games for the Xbox are also hidden gems.

Skies of Arcadia Legends didn't do nearly as well as it should have either. There are many games that I love that didn't generate incredible sales, but i do not have time at the moment to mention them.

Espicially if this started getting into gameboy games.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I own 3 of those games (Indigo Prophecy, Ico, Beyond Good & Evil) and plan on getting 3 of the others (Psychonauts, Rez, Stubbs the Zombie).

As for the remaining 5, I would definitely get Ikaruga and Eternal Darkness IF I had a GameCube. :-P

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know... but..

SPOILER!
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After finishing Shadow of the Colossus, I'd say it was a prequel to ICO.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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OK Where is Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Saga or Taiko Drum Master? all I feel had a good chance to be on the list.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Ugh, Stubbs was just horrible. Sure, it's got a sense of humour, but come on; it's one of the most boring, repetitive games I've played. The plot is basically stitched on, as the developer only really cares about putting you in "interesting" places and letting you run around. However, running around isn't really all the much fun; you basically go, eat someone's brains, roll your head at someone, throw your hand, shoot some people, rinse, and repeat. It's definitely only worth the purchase if it ends up in the bargain bin, and even then there are much better games out there. On the good side, it's not very long, so you wouldn't be wasting too much time by playing it, but in my opinion, any time at all is a waste with this game.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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for getting a hold of rez, it just might be easier to find/buy a dreamcast, which rez came out for first. Finding Rez online after that shouldn't be too hard. i found my copy online and still play it off and on ^^

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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You know, it's not hard to find copies of the Japanese version of Rez for a good price. I got mine for $25, including shipping. Finding the Trance controller add-on (for the ladies) is a bit harder.

Also, and I know that I've gotten alot of heat over this, but Killer 7 is overrated. It's more fun to watch someone else play it than to play it yourself. All style, no substance.

I'm going to throw out one that didn't make the list - Gotcha Force, for the Gamecube. If anyone remembers Virtual On, it was its spiritual heir. You could build teams of toys to take on other teams of toys, and each had their own distinctive attacks and controls. Sure, its plot was inane, but the action was furious and the controls were incredibly easy to get into, despite changing for each different robot. It was a game much more fun that it first looked.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I guess the Dreamcast isn't of this generation? I would definitely nominate Jet Grind Radio from that console.

I just thought of a couple more, but just realized they're from the previous generation. I'd like to see a list of hidden gems from the Playstation/N64 generation. In it I would include Parappa The Rapper and Kagero 2: Deception.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Rez is slightly different on the good ol' Dreamcast. 99% of the game is the same, the music is the same, the layout of some of the levels and the enemies that pop up are different. Its a bit more difficult on the PS2.

Panzer Dragoon Saga was last generation. Or did you mean Orta?

Warning about BG&E on the PC(and GameTap): It forces you to use the mouse/keyboard and will not let you map to a gamepad. This control sceme does not work for platformers of this type. Play it on your console no matter how much better your PC video card is.


Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Has anyone played Psi-Ops?... I know it was advertised heavily but I thought it was underappreciated. The execution of telekinesis and the level design were really good. I was motivated to beat it on all difficulties even...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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How could you forget gitaroo man!? :(. Most fun i've ever had on my PS2

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Wait, what happens if you beat Eternal Darkness 3 times?

I beat it once, but have no interest in doing it again. Fun game, but the end is a little frustrating. The shotgun combat is necessary but not too well done...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sorry, but I just can't abide leaving Amplitude off the list. I'd say it's the best single player game you can get for the PS2, though its multiplayer is fun, too. Rez has a more complete *experience*, but Amplitude is much more of a game. I've earned my halo in Amplitude, and everyone I lend it to buys it. I can't say which game should be booted to accomodate Amplitude, but I'd lean toward Ico, since I just didn't find its gameplay that engaging. /me ducks

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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As much as I liked Stubbs, Metal Arms: Glitch in the System is a far superior game. The only thing missing was Live support. It's a shame that Swingin' Ape was bought by Blizzard and put to work on Starcraft: Ghost. It means we'll probably never see the much deserved sequel to Metal Arms...

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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In response to a couple posts above, once you beat ED three times, it opens up a level select menu from which you can play any level with infinite everything.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I HATED Eternal Darkess. HATED it. It sucked big donkey balls.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Excellent list! Thanks!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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What about F.A.K.K.II?
One of my absolute favourite psychadelic adventures!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Screw Amplitude, why didn't you mention Frequency?
Frequency...If my PS2 hadn't eaten the disc I would still be playing it today. And I'd probably have finally beat the fucker.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, enough with "Eternal Darkness"! It is lacking graphically (and I'm saying this to be nice), the animation is horrible, the voice acting even worse, and the gameplay is terribly repetitive and dull. There were a lot of wasted opportunities with this game, and I cringe every time someone cites this game as an exemple of why the Gamecube has "mature" games. If *this* is mature then I'm more than happy with kiddy stuff like Animal Crossing (another good item to add to this list I think), Pikmin or even Windwaker (which was flawed as a game, but artistically extremely succesfull IMHO.)

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Psychonauts made the number one spot, all is right with the world.

Everyone should go out RIGHT NOW and buy that game. It's the best game on Xbox, hands down.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Since when did Alien Hominid release on Xbox ?????
I've wanted it ever since I heard of the added features, but have never seen a release, and it's not available at the online store.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with the other three posters here (unless they were one person...) about Metal Arms: Glitch in the System. That game was awesome, and can be very challenging.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I nominate Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil for PS2. It's my favorite PS2 game and one of the best platformers I have ever played.

And Eternal Darkness is such an excellent choice. It was amazing graphically, has some of the best voice acting I've ever heard in a video game, has a great battle system, and the sanity meter was just great. That game is so overlooked.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I was worried Psychonauts was not going to be included. That game was some of the most fun I had in a long time. I'd add Sega Soccer Slam to that list. I don't know if it was very popular, but it is the best soccer game I ever played. I'd also add Grim Fandango to the list, unless it is too old. It didn't sell that well, but is one incredible game.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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What, no Skies of Arcadia for the Dreamcast? Talk about an undiscovered gem!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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augh... psychonauts? you have to be kidding me... that game was awful!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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For the guy who asked about what happens in Eternal Darkness:

First, I finish virtually every game I play, and have never _ever_ played a game through more than once. _EXCEPT_ ED. The game was so good, and I just had to know what happens.

That said... SPOILERS BELOW!
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You actually have to play it _four_ times to see it all. The first three times, you align with a specific god. Once you have beaten it with the three, you are given the option to play as the fourth "Orange" one. Here you are given the complete story of revenge, perpetrated by the 4th, was was betrayed by the other three. If you remember the game, you know that there was the classic "Rock Paper Scissors" balance (Red>Green>Blue>Red.) As the Fourth, you are Orange which trumps all.

If you want the details, look it up at gamefaqs.com, there are walkthroughs that spoil the whole thing.

Excellent game, BTW. I actually bought 4 copies to give to friends... none of them played it... creeps.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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What about some non-violent, non-dark-and-perverse, non-demonic-oriented-even-tough-cute-but-that's-not-the-point, non-bizarre, just normal, happy, colorful game???

Yeh, I know... It has to be mature or strange to appeal our perverse sense of art, isn't it??

I just want to say I'm sick of all the "mature"=gritty&dark crap.

Maybe, of all those games, Rez is the only one that would be saved from all that, but it still is bizarre

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with these other posters about Eternal Darkness. I've not even beaten it once. I kept having to force myself to pick it up and play. The game is repetitive and boring. The control is tight, the graphics were good for the time, etc, but when you put it all together, it isn't any FUN.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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What about Shadow Hearts!? It is THE BEST RPG I've played on the PS2. If it wasn't for my girlfriend, I never would've have heard of it! Spread the word! Play Shadow Hearts now!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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The second I saw this entry, I thought to myself, "if Psychonauts isn't #1, it's an injustice". Way to hit the nail on the head, Joystiq. Psychonauts is one of the most wonderful games to come out in years.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Thank you so much for giving Psychonauts credit. Joystiq rocks.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Why was this article accompanied by a picture of Link from Windwaker? It's not even on the list!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Link O'Shaunessey:

because link is opening a treasure chest and discovering a "hidden gem" - lame, I know, but I couldn't help myself.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with ALH. Has everyone forgotten about Gitaroo Man? Maybe it's a little too hidden. Definitely one of the greatest music games ever. Oooooh, GitaROO Man!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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-Freedom Fighters - excellent squad-based action game.

-Breakdown - really cool first person beat-em-up, very reminiscent of Half Life.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Just to clarify, I rewrote the conclusion a few minutes ago - if you guys (and girls) have a favorite game we should have mentioned, let us know (and give us a few reasons why, if you want to be quoted), and in a few days I'll compile the reader responses into its own post.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Where's Wind Waker?

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Psychonauts baby...that's what I'm talking about. Other than a console launch (last being the Xbox), it's the only game that I've bought right away and paid the full $50 price for.

Exceptional game...except for that damn beat the water level. That just sucked.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I'd say Phantom Brave is a hidden gem.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Psychonauts > ALL.

It deserves to be number one. Go you!

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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I would also like to raise my hand for; Ooooh, Gitaroo Man. It's the most fun I've had on the PS2 and it's the most fun I've had playing a music game. Truly worth a mention.

And man oh man were the master's level hard! My hands still hurt, months afterwards.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Eternal Darkness was amazing. And Goodman, by "the voice acting [was] even worse," you mean "the voice acting was some of the best ever," right? I mean, you may not have liked ED's gameplay, but the sound & voice acting were superb in my opinion.
Another game that deserved to be on the list was MDK2 for the Dreamcast (and later released as MDK2:Armageddon for the PS2).

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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TrackMania: Sunrise.

This game reminded me of sonic because of how fast the game is sometimes. I was suprised that this wasnt on there...it has a good track editor and online community. People can upload tracks and circuits IN GAME, and other people can download them in game.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Ico did not receive poor reviews at all. It should not be in this list. Big seller and critically acclaimed! Check this list of reviews.......
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/ico

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