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Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Ok, the personal attack was in bad taste. Though I wonder what culture you learned mocking was better than civil discussion. See chief, your own arguments can actually be easily used against you.

First and foremost this is not a U.S. vs. Japan thread. If you hate the U.S., so much, get out of this country and cut your psychiatry losses.
You fail to see that the U.S. is 100% different cultures, with 40% non-Caucasian races, therefore the U.S. cannot be compared to any other nation's culture due to it's immigrant heavy society (all with their own cultures). While I do agree violence is glorified, it does get the ratings; let’s not go so far as to say the U.S. is ashamed of sexuality. The problem is parents are becoming overly protective of their children nowadays due to the advice of all these so called professionals.

On your comparisons of crime in the U.S. and Japan all I have to say is: Japan has 120+ million people while the U.S. has 300+ million people, also the Japanese "hang" (execute) criminals three times the amount the U.S. executes.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Art Guy, while i dont think that using the statistics is really usefull (population difference and what not) I am totally in agreement that people have to realise that different cultures have different views, too many people dont recognise how much of their own thinking is actually molded by their culture and their experiances, people have to realise that what is wrong for us is not for others, no matter how hard other people argue, you cant get away from that fact.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Art Guy-I fixed your post

KillaK - Bad one. Nothing quite like a rape of 11 year old when it comes to violent acts. I wonder what the abuse home environment you had if that pedophilia is natural act between two consensual people?

The point that doesn't matter us that different cultures have unique attitudes about sex and violence. Pedophilia and rape are just wrong. All froward countries have illegalize that type of porn. You ought to be ashamed and thinking anything as insensible, dignifying a culture entertained by violence. It is not an natural act between consenting people, but a horrid physical violation.

Compare yourself to somebody whose wife or daughter has been raped. The United States ranks first in the REPORTED assaults, rapes and total crimes. Most of the assaults that occur in foreign countires go unreported. There is an intense slave and sex trade in Asia, especially of

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Art Guy-I fixed your post

KillaK - Bad one. Nothing quite like a rape of 11 year old when it comes to violent acts. I wonder what the abuse home environment you had if that pedophilia is natural act between two consensual people?

The point that doesn't matter us that different cultures have unique attitudes about sex and violence. Pedophilia and rape are just wrong. All froward countries have illegalize that type of porn. You ought to be ashamed and thinking anything as insensible, dignifying a culture entertained by violence. It is not an natural act between consenting people, but a horrid physical violation.

Compare yourself to somebody whose wife or daughter has been raped. The United States ranks first in the REPORTED assaults, rapes and total crimes. Most of the assaults that occur in foreign countires go unreported. There is an intense slave and sex trade in Asia, especially of

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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KillaK- How very americentric of you. First of all, the internet is used by people all over the world, not just by Americans. Reminds me of those people who go around screaming "USA is number one!" but have never even left the continent and visited other places in the world to see how others live. You were the one to make this a USA vs anywhere thread when you claimed if people don't like your personal beliefs they need to leave your country.

About you concern with the statistics....
Do you know what "per capita" even means???? Look it up.

And if you are going to try and use a statistic, be sure it a real one and not thing you made up. The United States executes almost five times as many people per capita than Japan.

Untited States - 0.229936 executions per 1 million
Japan - 0.0470895 executions per 1 million

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Art Guy-How stupid are you? Your numbers need to be, obviously, adjusted before comparing. By population, crime rate, precincts and a whole slew of other statistics before they can even come close to being compared.

Unfortunately, for you my first post was #45 which makes the 44 posts prior to my own better candidates for making this a USA vs. anywhere thread (but do keep grasping for straws in your arguments, its quite humorous). Also, who are "those people" you speak of, your being vague and discriminatory.

I understand your point, "be more acceptable of other cultures", but it is hypocritical then to not be tolerant of The U.S. ideologies.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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"The point that doesn't matter us that different cultures have unique attitudes about sex and violence. Pedophilia and rape are just wrong."

First of all, you need to understand the point first before you dissmiss it, secondly, you need to realise that were NOT talking about them accepting rape and pedophilia as something thats fun for the whole family, were talking about acceptance of sexual things as a whole, so you cant call them a race of perverts for actually having this type of porn.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Personal attacks/flames will be deleted. Keep it on point (or as close to point as this thread will allow!)

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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KillaK - Your numbers need to be, obviously, adjusted before comparing. By population, crime rate, precincts and a whole slew of other statistics before they can even come close to being compared.

What's not to understand. Those seemed like good numbers to me. He showed you overall assults, rapes, etc.
And he showed you crime per 1000 people.

Let's see there's about 127,000,000 people in Japan.
While the US has about 281,000,000
(these are populations from the U.S. Bureau of Census in 2000, so there is some error)

So, that divide by the numbers for each of the crimes commited.

Assaults:
US - .782918149%
Japan - .0338582677%

Murders:
US - .00427046263%
Japan - .000501574803%

Rapes:
US - .0316725979%
Japan - .00173228346%

Total crimes:
US - 8.39857651%
Japan - 1.88976378%

So there is more crime commited per population in the US, than in Japan. The numbers are not perfect. But, still, prove a point.

Japan even has less rapes then we do, even though they all watch tenticle rape porn.

And what's with the name calling? Grow up.

Posted: Dec 18th 2005 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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Killak, you forget that these aren't even real people we're talking about. In fact, they are whatever age the developer chooses. He can say they're all very young-looking 40 year olds and get away with it. They're not real.

Bra and Panties matches, though staged, still prey upon a male urge that is frowned upon by society. They rip off each others clothing in an attempt to embarass and demean one another while sexually exciting the audience.

It isn't all that different, staged or not. In fact, the largest difference is that these are real life 20-somethings being stripped on national television, while the game is a silly little perverted diversion that will never be a mainstream anything.

I'd thank you not to call me stupid for my observations and opinions.

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