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Posted: Feb 19th 2006 11:46PM (Unverified) said

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Sony - 50$
Microsoft - 35%
Nintendo - 15%

in a year from now is my prediction

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 9:26AM (Unverified) said

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I think that Revolution will do very well, but (like the DS) it's success will primarily be a "Japan Thing". Though most western gamers will enjoy the system as a secondary console - supplementing the XB359 or BS3.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 9:39AM (Unverified) said

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A wild hair prediction of my own: Microsoft and Apple will get into the handheld gaming arena. Imagine a portable XBox and an iPod for gamers ...

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 9:42AM (Unverified) said

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DS success is only a "Japan thing"?...What are you smoking?

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 9:59AM (Unverified) said

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...good read... but i think you guys are off in a couple places...

ps3: in the face of numerous embarrassments over the last couple years (inability to produce an ipod killer, rootkit fiasco, etc.), i think sony's really going to try to cram everything they can into the ps3. for the online aspect, expect downloadable games, movie trailers, and ~music~... sony's going to make the push for ps3 integration with all of their portable devices, from the psp to those quirky looking mp3 players of theirs... they're hoping to achieve ipod/itunes integration, but with a variety of devices in the hopes of securing their spot in the home game system/media center device market, regaining the #1 spot in portable audio, and taking over the top spot in portable gaming... will they do it? nope. they may win vs the 360, but the ipod is untouchable and the ds is a powerhouse with more fun games and a price that's manageable...

ds vs. psp: if sony has actually ~sold~ 10 million~ psps (as opposed to "shipped" 10M) maybe this will be a closer race... but i don't think they've come near that... it's going to be really hard for sony to introduce upgraded psp's though. you start building in additional functionalities and all of a sudden you've split the developer capabilities. it's like if the 360 started allowing developers to use the upcoming hddvd drive for games... come out with a psp2.0 any time in the next year and a half and you risk alienating all the "early adopters"...
...also, the ds has a larger user base at this point... and a user base which at times approaches rabid devotion to the brand... on a plane ride back from cali, i was playing mario kart with a bunch of kids who had ds's... i mentioned that i was thinking about getting a psp also and was beset by the rants of these kids as to why the psp sucks and the ds is teh roxxorz. ~~KIDS!!~~ absurd... but anyway, my point is that the ds has the huge user base and the psp is widely looked upon as pretty and cool but not pretty and cool enough to justify the price of a home console. the developers are going to develop for the more popular system. ninty keeps winning in the portable market. sony will have to drop prices AND develop a ~~~~~stunning~~~~~ exclusive GAME for the psp to have a chance. and by stunning i mean a game that's worth 250-300 dollars (that is, a game that's good enough to make you go out and buy a psp).

...also... due to inexpensive nature and the fact that not everyone needs hi-def, billion polygon, multi-million dollar budgeted games to have fun, the revolution wins the next gen war with a slight edge over the ps3...

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 10:01AM (Unverified) said

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Ye, wtf? a japan thing? the ds is beating the psp almost everywhere, im curious as to what a UBISOFT guy said, this is not a direct quote as i cant find the site again but he basicly said: it looks like someone will be back in the game

Hinting to nintendo (i assume), now as this dev has actualy used a version of the console or played a Rev game then it would suggest to me that maybe the Rev will do quite well, im hoping it will, games just arent as fun nowadays, they all seem to be gta or Unreal Clones ( i know im gonna regret saying that - que to arguments)

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 10:17AM (Unverified) said

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If the past is anything to go by, the PS3 will fall short of all tech demos, while Nintendo will show that they really did know what they were doing.
This, combined with the high price of the PS3, could open the way for all those who had been holding on to their cash to try out Nintendo's Revolution.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 10:36AM (Unverified) said

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BD-ROM(aka:blu-ray) > HD-DVD

nuff said

Console wars will be closer then ever but I believe the end will be a
Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft with Nintendo/Microsoft having a particularly close fight for second place.

PS3 Launches during late spring in Japan with a North American Launch in early Fall, and enough systems to stop any shortages on par with the 360.

Also Nintendo Revol-whatever will launch with a MUST HAVE Mario game and a GTA-esque world. Shortly therafter Super Smash Brothers will launch and also be a blockbuster seller.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 10:39AM (Unverified) said

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The PSP may or may not have its killer app this year. Doesn't matter. The DS DOES have a killer app coming down the pipe, and it's a doozey. Tetris DS. This is the game that's going to get casual players into online play, complete with the rating system where you're always playing people at about your skill level..always getting a challenge.

At the end of the year, by system penetration, it's going to be Revolution first, X360 second and the PS3 third (If it launches at all). The PS3 is going to be plagued by framerate problems..the games look great..if they're paused..but when running, because of the complexity of the hardware, the first-gen games actually take a step backwards.

The X360 is going to have a strong year, with a price cut at for the holiday season, and a strong game lineup at the end of the year (Pre-E3, it's going to be kinda bleh however..)

The Revolution is going to fly off the shelves like hotcakes. At a 200-230 price point, it's going to be affordable enough for people to pick up as a "second" console. As well, it's going to get the iPod-esque buzz, and word of mouth of it will be strong. By the holidays, the Revolution will be the hawt gift.

Gamewise, expect a puzzle collection from Nintendo to steal the show for the mainstream, and probably a FPS game of some sort to have hardcore gamers dropping their jaws. As well, a new version of the GBA that can link up to the Revolution and download games directly to the portible machine.

Speaking of the Virtual Console, the game prices will be absurdly competitive. It'll be similar to iTunes, where games you purchase will be linked to your account and you can redownload them if need be. Games will be cheap, and will be paid for in points. Point cards will be purchasable in most department stores, and as well will come with Revolution (and maybe DS/GBA) games and accessories. From a card, expect something like about $1 for a NES, 3 for SNES and maybe 8-9 for N64 game.

Gaming laws. More will come, more will be struck down.

HD-DVD vs. Blue-Ray, both will somewhat fail, at least when it comes to the movie market. There's already a "good enough" technology in place. Those technologies will take the same place that Laserdisc did against VCR...for way upper-level enthusiasts, but won't get much mainstream support.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 10:51AM (Unverified) said

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The closer we get to the "Spring", the less I believe we'll see a PS3 launch in Japan in the Spring. If it isnt' the Spring, that makes it summer, which means late winter for North America... Unless they rush and have major supply issues.

Sad, really, as they've had so much more time than Microsoft to get things right, considering work on the PS3 supposedly started before the PS2 was even out the door. So, what, 7 years in development?

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:05AM (Unverified) said

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BY THE END OF 2006

Nintendo %60 marketshare
Xbox 360 %35
Sony PS3 %5

These estimate figures apply as long as Sony launches above $500 for PS3. Xbox 360 will ultimately lead Sony because sports games for 2007 will be on 360 and PS3 and will not look muuch different. Other 'ports' will draw from PS3 because of it's price. Nintendo will lead because they are tapping the market NOBODY goes after which is the millions and millions of low income families who buy systems towards the end of their life span when the price is significantly lower. Selling point of Revo, "low price point, tons more games immediately available". All Nintedo really needs to do is create a Nintendogs for Revo, with better graphics and online dog parks and it will have many the nongamer swarming it's way. . .

As for PSP, the DS will continue to clean it's house here and Japan.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:11AM (Unverified) said

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in a quick nutshell (gotta take the dog out).

Xbox 360 will be luke warm as usual - only kept alive by Live
PS3 will debut in January 2007 in europe and cost a bomb. but people will still buy it but not in the same league of the PS2.
Revolution will launch and all the fans will rejoice. Joe Public will be sceptical for months but like Joystiq also predicted; it will have an ultra killer game.
HD-DVD will be the next format as Microsoft push it in the computer world.
Mac will gain millions more switchers giving them a 7% market share, ever increasing as usual, and more so with the new ultra-fast Mactels. laughing at PC's both in speed and looks once again.

Microsoft and Apple will NOT, no, NEVER release a handheld. Apple have stringently said that they will not be going into console production. microsoft said the same about handhelds. not gonna happen, as much as I love Apple and their innovative ways.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:12AM (Unverified) said

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I don't know if it's just the blogs and sites I read, or if it represents a true shift in the gamer market, but the tide really has turned to Nintendo's favor, it seems. I loved the concept from day one, as a sometimes developer myself the possibilities are just...juicy. You don't hear a lot of bashing of the concept anymore (don't even remember the last time, honestly), and what you hear is a lot of genuine giddy excitement. Nintendo is taking gaming back to the days when everything was new instead of just an upgrade. What will we be playing at the end of this year/beginning of next? I have no idea, because the possibilities are simply too large to even dream about right now.

I bought a PS2 essentially only because it had the largest lineup of music/rhythm games (as in the ONLY lineup of music/rhythm games), but I expect that to change as well. With the Revolution, third party controllers and game-specific add-ons will be cheaper and better than ever, allowing for wireless Guitar Hero and maybe some of that music conducting game the old folks were playing in the PR video.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:16AM pr0cs said

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1) neither blue ray nor HD-DVD actually wins, not enough people take up either format
2) the PS3 is delayed everywhere except japan until 2007
3) the revolution releases in Nov06 to mixed reviews, the controller is unique but works well with titles developed from the ground up with the controller in mind, nintendo loses the majority of it's 3rd party support and gamers are stuck playing endless rehashes of Mario

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:20AM (Unverified) said

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2006 will be the year of nintendo, i strongly belive this
with tetris and metroidhunters for the DS(2 must have games) and with the developer support for the revolution we are already seeing ......nintendo is back on top of there game...and just think the ps3 revolution and 360 began development when the ps2 gamecube and xbox were released...so does this mean the xbox720 nintendo revolution2 andps4 are in R&D right now....u can bet they arethinking about the gen. after this one....Oh and i expect to see this gen last longer then 5 years.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:29AM (Unverified) said

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Wow. There's a good deal of optimism for NIntendo on here. While I like it - and while I am one of the biggest self-admitted Nintendo fanmen around - I'm skeptical about Nintendo doing so incredibly well.

Sadly, I see Sony still out in 1st place with MS basically buying second place (another $4 billion loss, anyone?). Nintendo's market share will improve however (to perhaps 20%?),and they will continue to laugh all the way to the bank.

I predict that many people will continue to complain about the industry, be it about sequilitis, lack of innovation in hardware & software, emphasis of graphics over gameplay, high development costs, EA games in general, monotony of certain dominating genres, etc.

I also predict that many those saaame complainers will get on their knees once again to fiscally fellate MS and Sony. And I predict that the irony will go right over their heads.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:33AM (Unverified) said

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I know the big seller for me on the DS was the inclusion of the Wifi service. It probably doesn't get as much attention as the games for being a selling point for the DS, but I'd consider it a big factor. And in the upcoming year, it'll continue to be the underrated factor that really helps push game and system sales. There's excitement growing behind Tetris DS. MP: Hunters is probably one of the most anticipated titles for the system. Age of Empires and Worms over Wifi would be awesome provided the games are good. The Brain Training games have been selling really well in Japan...hope they have the same success here.

If Nintendo can follow the DS example with the Revolution, it's sure to sell. Everyone and their mother wants to play games like Smash Bros. online. And even though nothing's been said yet, the simple though of going old school with Goldeneye and the original Perfect Dark online provides healthy wishful thinking. PSP still needs that killer app to make it a viable game system worth purchasing. It'll eventually get it, but it may be too late. Likewise for the Xbox 360.

I'm shootin' for the Rev. It just has too much potential.

E3 can't come soon enough. The future of the industry will be seen here, for better or for worse. It's almost safe to say that this will be the most important one yet. Consoles will get the attention while the PC quietly, but surehandedly, moves along.

Just my thoughts.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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The PS3 will have Blu-ray, wi-fi, seven controllers and more, making it usless because of the extra weiht and company politics.

The Xbox and Revolution will kick the asses of all sony fanboys, and the owners of these systems will be happy and get sweet sweet sex with hot girls.

That said, the PS3 will have a couple of games, but the prerenering and whatnot that sony spews will not happen. In fact, the games will look like crapped versions of the Xbox and Revelution...

I fully support Microsoft and Nintendo, but Sony has lost all my trust. As a girl I also look forword to the choice of games made for girls on their systems, and look forword to hooking up on Xbox Live!!!

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 12:04PM (Unverified) said

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That's a good point about HD-DVD and Microsoft. If Windows heavily supports HD-DVD, then screw the PS3's Bluray drive; it will mean NOTHING. Compare the installed base of Windows vs the PS2. Enough said.

Anyway, I find it funny how people think that either the 360 or the PS3 will make the other system a joke or kept "barely alive". Realistically, neither will be true. Sony and Microsoft will have good support because their respective fanboys are knuckleheads. Both will be great systems. Personally, I'm rooting for Microsoft because I feel they are bringing more fun to gaming than Sony has in a long time. I find it hard to play a PS2 game when my Xboxes are available with better versions of games and awesome online support.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo will not make gobs of income and hit 60% market share. It's just isn't gonna happen. Sorry. There are good reasons for this.

There are three general groups of gamers:
1. Hardcore Gamers
2. Casual-core Gamers
3. New-Age Casual Gamers

Hardcore Gamers: In short, all of you people.

Casual-core Gamers: People who purchase a PS2 or a Xbox so that they can play virtual sports, and the occasional killer app, such as Halo, GTA, etc. I call them casual-core because they are rooted in what are essentially very classic genres of games.

New-Age Casual Gamers: This is the market that Maxis tapped into with The Sims, and the target demographic that Nintendo wants to expand in to. Nintendogs was the first salvo.

Right now, Nintendo holds its place with the hardcore gamer group. I think most hardcore gamers will buy a Rev. because it's so different, and because it won't cost much. A PS3 or XB360, combined with a Rev. will provide the greatest exposure to a variety of gamers. That’s my current setup with a PS2 and GC. The problem with this is that it’s the 2nd system, so fewer purchases go in the direction of GC.

Nintendo doesn’t want to challenge Sony and MS since in order to do so, they would have to deliver top notch hardware, most likely at a lost. So their goal is to create new gamers, and sell to them. That’s where the New-Age Casual Gamers come in. These people who already play games on yahoo and The Sims 2 on the home PC, they don’t want gamers from the usual gaming genres. Nintendo will win at least some of these people over.

And this is great. Nintendo makes money on everything they sell (including consoles). Being a 2nd system to a large number of hardcore gamers combined with it’s newly found market of New-Age Casual Gamers, they are in great shape. There is just one problem.

New-Age Casual Gamers are not going to spend a lot of money on games. Whereas Casual-core gamers go out and buy the newest edition of their favorite sports and racing games, New-Age gamers will not do that. They might buy one game a year. And because of this, Nintendo’s market share, when based off its income, will probably not push it to the number 1 slot. In fact, depending on how close the Sony/MS race is, it might even be #3 in the USA.

But that’s ok for two reasons. First, Nintendo makes money on everything. Consoles, games, controllers, everything. They don’t have to hit a critical mass in order to become profitable, unlike Sony/MS. The number of gamers will increase, and all of these new gamers, will identify with Nintendo. Even if only 25% of current non-gamers convert and purchase a Rev game system, there will be room for more growth with the next generation, and the next generation. Meanwhile, Sony/MS has pretty much exhausted it’s current audience, dragging about as much money out of them as possible.

Visit http://www.buzzcut.com/article.php?story=2005053122342247 for a through article about how Nintendo makes its money.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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I will eat my greasy game playing hat if Sony does more than 20% this gen in the US. (It may get 40% in Japan with Xbox not having a chance at more than 5 or 10%. Mark my words--in international sales, Nintendo will win this next round. Sony will fall flat on its face with too many bugs in an overly complicated design. MS will take up some of the slack. But Nintendo will sell the best from day one because of their back catalog (50%) and the revolution that is their new controller (50%.) Add in another 50% for WiFi for good measure, and they steal back their rightful crown. The Nintendo Revolution System will be the next NES, not the next GameCube. The relative ease of production will only help them get their faster.

If you think graphics will make the difference, I say you won't see much difference at all, and remind you that the PS2 won the current round with the lowest specs. It was simply the system best positioned to be successful in the market--something they are definitely giving up next gen. Brand equity will not be enough to carry their price. Meanwhile, Microsoft will do better than they have this gen, possibly selling 40 to 50 million units by the time all is said and done--a decent showing, but not enough to lift them past the cheaper and more interesting Rev, particularly in worldwide sales. Following in the footsteps of the DS, Nintendo will take more than half of the market in Japan, and nearly half, if not more, in the more well rounded US market.

The killer app for me will be hefting a virtual flame thrower using the Nintendo Revolution controller and not feeling like my arm is in a sling as it does in Halo.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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#19 I think your incorrect you are right about nintendo having a high hardcore base most likly the biggest of the three but you for get casual gamers dont have biases in other words if they had a PS2 then it doesnt mean they will get a PS3 casual gamers just dont have the emotional ties thay hardcore gamers have they just pick the best looking and cheapest which of right now nintendo holds and doesnt seem to be giving up also nintendo's rev will be the easiest to port to so they will get those sports games

my guess in a nut shell nintendo>microsoft>sony

simply cause sony's greatness came from its casual gamers and once they are gone sony really loses a lot

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:14PM (Unverified) said

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I think it would be wonderful, if Nintendo kicked Microsoft's and Sony's butt. It would force the companies to do something extraordinary to compete. Microsoft is too much about XBL, and Sony is too much about the brand. Something needs to kick them in the posterior to get them do something new. That would be great for all of us.

I'm not sure if that's gonna happen, but I sure hope it will.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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Predictions:

US
Nintendo Revolution - 40 to 50% of all consoles sold (70% of all gaming households will have one)
Xbox 360 - 30% of all consoles sold (40% of all gaming households will have one)
Sony PS3 - 20% of all consoles sold (maybe 25% of all gaming households will have one)

Japan
Nintendo Revolution 60% of all consoles sold (80% of all gaming households will have one)
Sony PS3 - 35 to 40% of all consoles sold (50% of all gaming households will have one)
Microsoft Xbox 360 - Maybe 5% of all consoles sold (less than 10% of all gaming households will have one)

Other Territories
I don't know enough about UK and Australian buyers, but I suspect at least 50% of all gaming households will have a Revolution within 2 to 3 years. No predictions on Xbox 360 vs. PS3 relative success, but both will sell fewere units than the Revolution.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:25PM (Unverified) said

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interesting how many pro-Nintendo messages are appearing. More and more hardcore gamers seem to be really getting behind the idea of Revolution now. I'm guessing this has to do with a general acceptance that we're getting bored of all the lookalike software, and are getting a bit too savvy to fall for an upgrade in graphics. Gamers just wanna have fun again i guess. Should be an interesting year.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:32PM (Unverified) said

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And we still haven't seen a Revolution game. Impressive! Just wait til E3...and if you can't, get a DS.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:37PM (Unverified) said

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I think Andrew Hagan's comments are the most plausible. You hardcore gamers might assume everyone will flock out to go and buy a new console just because of a remote control. Right !!

The fact is there is a fourth category of new consumers that MS and Sony are fighting for they're called Convergence Device Junkies. The fact that it's a games console is great. If you're a family man and want to get a gadget past the mrs. It's got to be more than just a games console. So the winner of the battle is the one that can enables blokes to go up to their mrs with a straight face and say we're buying that console and the HD TV becuase...... I leave you to fill the blank guess which consoles will be parked in parents living rooms across the world.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:43PM (Unverified) said

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All of you pro nintendo posters who think the system will get in 50-60-70(!)% of the market share this generation are horribly disillusioned. I've no doubt they will do well, but not such a gigantic jump. Maybe the next generation but certainly not this one.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:45PM (Unverified) said

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Assuming Sony doesn't really screw something up (even though it is a distinct possibility) I suspect rankings will be something like Sony>Nintendo>Microsoft.

However it won't be like it was with the last gen. Sony and Nintendo will be very close, maybe only a couple million units seperating them after 4 years. Microsoft will be further behind but still easily in the race.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 1:58PM (Unverified) said

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I predict that the format wars and the consumer confusion surrounding it will eat into the console wars as well. PS3 will not sell well right away, other than to the "need it to be cool" crowd, and developers will have a hell of a time creating for it. Again due to consumer confusion PS3 and XBOX360 will not sell very well. People won't understand why their HD-DVD will not play on the PS3, etc...

Nintendo, in realizing the market rather than trying to define it, will definitely win out this time around as the other big 2 push too much into their consoles and can't compete on the price point. THE END.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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26) "If you're a family man and want to get a gadget past the mrs. It's got to be more than just a games console. So the winner of the battle is the one that can enables blokes to go up to their mrs with a straight face and say we're buying that console and the HD TV becuase....."

I honestly think instead of using sleight of hand it would be easier to convince the Mrs. to get the new console because *they'll have fun together* with it. And you know which console that one will be... you guessed it: Nintendo's.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 2:21PM (Unverified) said

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I'm interested in what has caused this recent sea-change in Revolution's fortunes on this site. When it was first announced there was a LOT more negativity towards it, but now a lot more of us seem to be getting genuinely excited. I fear that we'll still be starved of content when it launches, as is Nintendo's way, but then again there do seem to be more and more cool developers professing an interest in creating for it every day. But why are the 'hardcore' crowd now warming to it? Is it the potential of the interface? The classic games library? Just curious...

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 2:52PM Nmaster64 said

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I have to call you out for not mentioning anything on Super Smash Brothers 3 or the idea of announcing a next-gen Game Boy...

Also, I think you give the PS3 more credit than it's due, at least early on. It's going to take Sony years to catch up the way their going right now (i.e. when developers can actually USE the Cell). Unless Sony announces something HUGE soon, I think they're going to shoot themselves in the foot with the PS3. 2006 is NOT going to be a good year for Sony...


My prediction:
Market Share - Jan. 1st 2007:
PS3 - ~20%
X360- ~40%
Revo - ~30%

Market Share - Jan. 1st 2010:
PS3 - ~32%
X360- ~33%
Revo - ~35%

Ok, I made that 2nd one up w/o too much thought. But I do definitly think it will be REALLY close. And I think it's very possible for Nintendo to come out on top simply based on the blue ocean market they open up with the Revolution...

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 3:17PM (Unverified) said

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I think its hilarious that everyone here seems to have such enormously high hopes for Revolution. Beating out the PS3 or 360? I doubt that even Nintendo considers that a possibility. And if by "potential", you mean the potential to alienate any and all third-party support that Nintendo has left, then yes, the Revolution is full of potential.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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here is something some of you may find interesting, these are real shots from the new DS game Animal crossing, this is a mistery item you can pick up in the game, and for those who dont know - HMD stands for Head Mounted Display

http://homepages.tesco.net/anthony.majerski/OMG.JPG


if
this is what it looks like, and this is the 3rd Rev secret, then i have strong beliefes that the rev could jst win

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 3:46PM madcow486 said

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We're still waiting for a "killer app" for the 360, and whats ps3 gonna have? Jak 5 in fully realistic graphics? Hooray, I can see the folds in his million-polygon shirt for only $70 per game! But seriously, the prospect of SSB online alone will sell more Rev units than the PS3 and XBox 360.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 3:47PM (Unverified) said

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NOTE: summat went wrong with that link in my last post, so ur best off copying the link into the address bar, i dont know why it has included the world "if" in the link

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 4:32PM (Unverified) said

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It still seems that all of you NS Fanboys are wishful thinking out loud. Maybe you should get out some more. Revolution will do okay. How can something you've not seen suddenly set the world alight. It's the same with the PS3. In the real world content owners/third party support will win the battle. Sony and MS will divide the market between themselves while Revo will scrap the bottom of the table. The facts are Nintendo keep rehashing the same old mario again and again with a few decent games. Apart from that what makes them better than Sony or MS. They all do the same thing. Just say you like a specific console and give it a rest.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 5:12PM (Unverified) said

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This was a pretty good set of predictions but you left a key player out of the PC gaming section...Linux. Sure laugh if you want, but as Desktop OSes based off Linux are rapidly maturing, and Microsoft will be damn near forcing people to upgrade to Vista, the tables are set for a mass exodus to possibly happen this year. While gaming is one of Linux's current weak points...it's steadily getting better. Another benefit of Apple switching to Intel chips is that Apple's underlying BSD architecture will make OpenGL OSX games a breeze to port to Linux too. Now don't get me wrong, I don't expect it to just take over...but I do expect it to start eating into MS and Apple's domain just as Firefox has steadily cut into the proprietary browser market ;)

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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the "facts" are that nintendo continue to release Mario games because they are massive sellers, can you blame them? are you saying that if u had a computer game character that was one of the most popular computer game icons and its games sold in their millions that you would ditch it?

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 5:40PM (Unverified) said

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@#36

Mario is a rehash? Go play the first Super Mario brothers game and then play Mario 64 and tell me that. Same characters, totally different games. If you think Mario games are just rehashes then you really are a moron in my opinion.

As for this being wishful thinking? Sorry but these are predictions based on what we have seen so far. I wouldn't call these wishful thoughts at all. Many of them do in fact seem pretty realistic.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 5:57PM (Unverified) said

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I hate to break it too u guys but 2006 wont be the year of the Nintendo Giant. 2007 is its rightful place, when people are fully used to the unique control methods.
1st or 2nd place- Rev or 360
DEAD FREAKING LAST- PS3 (as of now, but wutever cud change!:)

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 5:59PM (Unverified) said

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has the supply of the X Box 360 started to ease yet? can folks go into Best Buy or Circuit City and have a 50/50 chance of finding one? or are folks still buying them for silly money on eBay... if so what is the perdection on when supply will catch up? Me if I can get a 360 full version at retail when Oblivion is released (End of March right?) then I will go with getting an x Box... otherwise I will get the PC version and build a PC that can play it out of old PC parts a new mobo and processor and game card... i have switched to OS X for computing and would never go back for normal use but for playing one game (unless they decide to do an intell mac version) it is an option if the 360 supply remains constrained

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 6:39PM (Unverified) said

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Why is everyone bashing 360. All of a sudden people have this huge illusion that the Revolution has already won and PS3 and 360 are digging their graves. Ill decide if the Revolution is for me when I actually see some games (same for PS3) but as of right now 360 has 100% of the next-gen market share and units are constantly becoming more and more avaiable so that lead is just going to go up for them. What my stragety is will most likely be to buy the Revolution at launch with what ever good games it has and wait for the PS3 to drop in price if it is more then $400 (there is no way I am spending more then $600 this holiday like last year so PS3 is out till a price drop). I already have a 360 and it is fantastic. Also I don't really mind if Halo 3 releases this year because or do I think MS will release it because they will most likely not really need it till 2007 when the PS3 and Revo really gain momentum. My final predictions on '06 are:

1. MS will keep the lead all year no matter how good the Revo and PS3 launches are (or aren't).
2. PS3 ships for $450 with same problems as 360.
3. Revo has best launch out of all 3 with good games but ok WiFi support.
4. Sony makes PS3 online unified with better service then PS2 (But not quite Live or WiFi).
5. DS: ok year PSP: good year
6. GTA 4: hopefully on PS3 and 360 at the same time.
7. Vista: Good Macintel: better
8. PS2, Xbox, NGC: Good last years for all.
9. Halo 3 in 2007 w/ best story and multiplayer ever.
10. Market share:
360= 70-85% (How much do you think Sony & Nintendo will gain if they are out for only two months in '06 compared to a year for 360).
PS3= 7-12%
Revo= 10-13%

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 6:52PM (Unverified) said

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I think blu ray will beat hd dvd but not on 2006 but 2007
On the home consoles i dont see why everyone thinks nintendo will rule it will gain a lot of sales for nintendo and i believe it will come second in sales I think the ps3 will once again rule over all this is because most people have a ps2 (100 million) and brand loyalty is very strong with sony and sony know how to create hype.Also i wouldnt be suprised if they did make a summer 2006 launch with a lot more consoles avaianle than everyone thinks. In the end i think it will be :
sony 60%
nintendo 22%
xbox 360 18%

on games i think gta 4 will be ps3 exclusive and will maybe not be a us ur japan launch title but will be in europe (0ctober 2006) nintendo will have its usual quirky fun games and the 360 will have fps games but no halo and ps3 live will affect sales
The psp sales will increase as games get better but i doubt it will get a killer app

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 8:38PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry 360 fans, but Microsoft screwed up. All their hype is dead and they still didn't sell many consoles. By the time 360s are available in stores E3 will be almost here and the hype will be in Sony and Nintendo's favor.
Are 360s still selling on eBay? Sort of, but only for about $100 over the original price. That's probably a better deal anyway since there's no crappy bundle filled with EA's ports.
No, next Christmas all the kids will want PS3s and all their parents will want Revolutions. I smell third place all over the new Xbox.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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The PS3 is going to hold a significant lead, mainly due to brand recognition. Sony spent a lot of energy over the past 12 years trying to establish itself as the "mature gamer's console" (though for some reason, mature always means engaging in immature behaviors, but I digress). The one thing the casual crowd doesn't want to admit to is being "kiddy", as we have heard many times over through the lifespan of the Gamecube.

Because of this, Nintendo won't exactly make a huge market share leap in this next generation, or even in the one after, unless they're willing to start putting out more high quality titles that aren't geared toward all ages, because all ages tends to translate into "kiddy" among the average gaming Joe.

Now, the PS3 is still going to hold the lead, but not a commanding 5-1 ratio over the nearest competitor like it is this time around. Microsoft is coming off a somewhat successful console into a new one and the 360 is doing well where it counts, the biggest markets (win North America and Europe, and the Japanese developers will follow, they ain't stupid) and will bite into Sony's share like the introduction of a concealed handgun lisence in Texas cut gun crime (meaning a lot).

My predictions:

Sony - 50$
Microsoft - 35%
Nintendo - 15%

The market won't expand a whole lot, and where it does, goes to Nintendo (which means an even tideier profit given they can pull more cash than Sony with only 10%). The rest of it, Microsoft will end up getting a bigger chunk this run around.

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 9:51PM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo will always have its third place in the console wars. Not that it bothers them any, so long as their still profiting. The same will happen with the Revolution.

The only shift I see happening is Microsoft taking Sonys top spot with Sony doing some major catching up in 2007 (once they get through their manufacturing problems).

As for handhelds Ill admit im a DS hater and thought it would fail against the mighty PSP. Portable gaming is something that Nintendo has locked down. Sony can realease another PSP with hard drive but if Nintendos next gen Gameboy can play Cube games and other media, its a wrap............

Posted: Jan 23rd 2006 10:28PM (Unverified) said

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In the same time span the original xbox sold 1.5 million in the U.S. the 360 has sold only 600,000. That's less than half. Microsoft has not just shot themselves in the foot, they've turned the gun straight around and stuck it in their mouths. Misinformed may say the new xbox is a success and flying off the shelves...but that's because they have half of the standard amount for a launch in any country.

What's that mean? No lead, and no excuses not to have it. They can't claim demand was greater than anticipated. They only manufactured 1.3 million consoles in a time span they claimed they would sell 3 million. Over and over Microsoft trumpeted getting first to the market as a key to victory. Perhaps someone should have told them getting their first doesn't mean anything if you only have laughable amounts of stock.

Anyhoo, back to the point. PS3 is going to tout its name and its greater horsepower over and over and over again. The fact that it dominated this generation will get it many good titles from programmers, at least at first. The last generation, the only things the xbox had over the ps2 was graphics, a hard drive, and online. Sony's coming out with better graphics, a hard drive, and online (probably worse than xbl, but hey, its still there).

What can the 360 claim it offers better than the ps3? Halo? Sorry, it needed to make launch to sell the system, not 2007, when the system's future may already be shown. Graphics? They'll be equal to the ps3 at best. At worst, people will be like they were watching the (?pre-rendered?) movies at all the game shows with their mouths hanging open and their eyes glued to the screen. Much of Sony's profits are coming from their game division. They will not give up without a good hard fight.

Oh yes, and the Playstation name. It cannot be said enough. When you own more than two-thirds of a market, your name matters. Period. When it comes to Joe Schmoe wanting to play a football game, when given a choice, he'll pick the ps3.

Unless the ps3 comes out above $400. Then they've priced themselves off the map.

And the Revo has already been praised again and again before this post. The back-catalogue. Cheaper games. Cheaper system, possibly even at half the others at $200. Name recognition. Free wifi for Nintendo games. The slim, quiet, two-dvds-stacked-together size. A new Mario game at launch. Zelda. A programming environment supporting wacky games like Warioware and Katamari Damacy. Oh yeah, and this crazy controller that everyone will have to try, gamer or not, at least once to see how the dang thing works, feels, and reacts.

Japan loves Nintendo. Japan loves Sony. Japan avoided the launch of the 360 like it was a disease.

Come E3, the 360's dire predicament will become clear. The Revo will steal the show with playable demos and its controller. The PS3 will unleash a mammoth display as well (why do you think they're being silent? Not because of lack of progress or video, E3 is where its at, and they're not idiots. Anyone watching the MTV premiere for the 360 certainly learned this the hard way).

The 360 has no surprises left for E3. Maybe a Halo trailer. But it'll be drowned in the opposite sides of the spectrum, the hardcore, graphic heavy killing machine and the sleek, sexy, apple-esque fun machine. This next gen, it'll be the xbox as the niche-player, catoring to the XBL and Halo crowd, which if the last xbox counts as a measuring stick, isn't larger than 20 million.

David

Posted: Jan 24th 2006 3:30PM (Unverified) said

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David, your numbers on the 360 are WAY off.

Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund has revealed in a recent report that Microsoft probably sold 1.3 million Xbox 360 units for the quarter, missing analysts’ estimates and Goldman Sachs’ own estimate of 1.8 million units. According to Sherlund, sales may have reached 900,000 units in North America, 300,000 in Europe and 100,000 in Asia.

They sold more than twice as many consoles as you said. What I find really laughable is you say, the only thing Xbox had over the PS2 was a hard drive, graphics and Online. That's quite a lot my friend. Developers have already said repeatedly that the 360 and PS3 are going to be virtually identical in terms of graphical prowess, and with the PS3 shipping with no hard drive, their possible entry into Online gaming is going to be a joke. No hard drive means no downloadable content, no demos, no Marketplace type setting like Xbox Live Marketplace.

The 360 continues to sell out wherever it is stocked and now that MS is putting a third factory into operation, hardware shortages are about to become a thing of the past for the 360. So, I'm going to have to say you're wrong again, and that MS will have quite a substantial lead by the time the PS3 launches in the US, likely in 2007.

Japanese gamers will never fully embrace Xbox360 until they come out with some niche Japanese flavored games, which I could personally not care less about. As long as the 360 does very well in Europe and the US as it clearly is and will, then Japanese developers will be on board.

Nintendo Revolution is intriguing. I expect it to do well at launch (depending on the number of launch titles available) but as always, new games will be released at a snails pace, and what buzz they initially garner will quickly vaporize into the ether.

PS3 launch games will look markedly inferior to 360 2nd generation games available at the same time, and it will sharply affect sales. Compounded by the fact that you can count on MS not releasing Halo3 until the launch of the PS3, SOny is going to be the company having to overcome major hurdles this time around.

In the end, 5 years from now, it is likely that Microsofts efforts and strategic moves result in a huge gain in market share.

Leaving Sony #1 at roughly 40%
Microsoft at around 40%
And Nintendo getting the final 20%

This generation will be the table-setter for the REAL battle which will begin in or around 2010 or 2011.

As for Blue-Ray vs HD-DVD, like most, I believe neither will be a standard in the next 3 years. But HD-DVD will have a much faster adoption rate due to its use in Windows based PC's that dominate that entire world. Which has a better chance, Blue Rays in 50 million PS3's or HD DVD in a BILLION PC's? The end result of such a lopsided race is too abvious as to require elaboration.

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