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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 1:06PM (Unverified) said

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The bastards! They must be stopped! Please send me free stuff.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 1:31PM (Unverified) said

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yay for new marketing tactics....one day adverts will find you while you're sleeping!
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 1:39PM (Unverified) said

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I wonder how many shills are operating here at Joystiq...
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 1:53PM (Unverified) said

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viral marketing is completely legitimate, be it paid (with cash or "stuff"), or unpaid and unsolicited from tastemakers. For Joystiq to single it out as something *new* and *nefarious* is mildly hilarious.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 2:35PM chrisgrant said

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ry, you are confusing an important distinction: legitimate and widespread. I believe that it is certainly widespread and not "new", but I think the word legitimate is misapplied. Similarly, it is not always nefarious. What is disappointing is when the colabboration is undisclosed.

When you go to a "tastemaker" party and they're serving Bacardi, it's readily apparent Bacardi is footing the bill. When you're in a gaming forum talking with a group of people that you trust, and a marketing agency usurps those relationships to better target you with advertising, it's ethically dubious. The Nvidia case might not be the worst possible, but it's certainly a reminder that marketers are employing new, and potentially controversial, tactics.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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viral/guerilla marketing just aint' right man. it's designed from the get go to decieve people into believeing they are getting an honest opinion about something when in fact they are listening to a commerical the whole time. i agree with the idea that it's ethically dubious. it'd be nice to see it banned altogether but i know that aint' gonna happen...
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 3:10PM (Unverified) said

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> viral marketing is completely legitimate

I bet you were paid to say that.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 3:29PM wshwe said

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Full and prompt disclosure is the key. People can draw their own conclusions as to honesty and accuracy.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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"...is the opinion any less valid than when the customer receives the product for free?"

Yes. It is less valid. Compensation sways opinions. Even our legal system recognizes this and permits expert witnesses to be questioned about how much they have been compensated to testify. If you're getting the latest hardware not only before anyone else, but getting it for free - of course you're going to have some positive inclination, be it conscious or not - towards the company.

And that, I feel is obvious.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2006 4:15PM (Unverified) said

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I used to work for Future Shop (sister brand of Best Buy in Canada) and both ATI and Nvidia had insane 'staff purchase' plans where they basically gave away video card hardware to sales staff. Intel had similar programs, but I don't know how good the pricing was.

A lot of companies give huge discounts like this so that when a customer asks the sales rep what they use at home, they'll say 'well I happen to have brand x'. What they don't often say is 'because it was so dirt cheap, but I'd never pay what we're asking YOU to pay'.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2006 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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An opinion on a piece of hardware/software really isn't valid if that is the only current one being used by the person giving the opinion. Now, if someone had the latest graphics cards from two or more competitive sources and was able to compare them, then - and only then - would that persons opinion actually mean anything at all. That is why the website which do comparison testing are so valuable.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2006 11:59AM (Unverified) said

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I write reviews for a hardware site. Sometimes, I get the review samples from manufacturers or their distributors for free. If the product I am reviewing was received for free, I make sure that this is disclosed within the first two paragraphs of any review I write. Similarly, if I am reviewing a product I purchased I also make that known within the first two paragraphs.

Most people are aware that reviewers are given products to review by manufacturers for free. Disclosing this within the review is still necessary, I feel, in order to let the reader know that there is a relationship between the reviewer and the manufacturer. I believe the same type of disclosure MUST be made by anyone with a similar type of relationship to a manufacturer.
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