Official Sony specs: PS3 HDD sold separately
On a spec sheet hosted on the official PlayStation Global site, the PS3's various storage media--including the HDD and a few other memory formats--are said to be "sold separately," which might lead one to understandably assume that the PS3's hard drive won't come bundled with the system (at least, not with a cheap package for the platform).
Drag the right-hand arrows to navigate the listing. Halfway down the Flash-animated page for the upcoming platform is a line stating: "Storage / HDD: Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1," which won't raise many eyebrows. It's when you scroll down to the bottom of the page that that first starry footnote really messes with our convergence dreams (or nightmares).
Okay, we all know that the PS3 will have "a 2.5-inch hard drive (i.e. laptop hard drive) attachment." The $500 question--give or take a few Franklins--is whether that hard drive will come bundled with every system or just the pricier models. Sure, a comprehensive web page could be mistaken, but why state it so clearly? More to come at GDC/E3, of course.
[Thanks, El Burro; via Engadget]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Tachikoma @ Feb 15th 2006 7:35AM
That sucks, I dont wanna buy a seperate HD! Oh great now I gotta spend another 100 bucks on top of a PS3? Bah I'll go get a 360! W00t!
Jimmyjohns @ Feb 15th 2006 7:39AM
I got an idea they should have a different option for the console like the 360!
They should have a core system and a premium system...
That will solve the problem for shure.
Funny though, if sony did this marketing tactic, not as many people would say it is dumb like microsoft did. Definetly says something about the crowd eh?
Heinrich @ Feb 15th 2006 7:48AM
And how do you know that, Jimmyjohns? Are you a pro-Fortuneteller?
As for me, I would scream dumb Sony, as much as I screamed dumb MS...
freecajunlove @ Feb 15th 2006 7:53AM
I'm going to wait until a price is released.
BUT... Sony may be shooting itself in the foot with the HDD (again).
bryan @ Feb 15th 2006 8:01AM
It bet its a Sony Memory-Stick microvault ultra pro duo HDD That isn't compatible with anything but Sony.
kizza @ Feb 15th 2006 8:05AM
I didn't mind not having a hdd. I used to play a nes & snes that required you to restart your game every time you played, so buying a m/card or 2 & actually being able to save is more important to me than taking my console closer to be an underpowered pc.
Plus I worry about hdd getting viruses in future on consoles..... I think 360 will start getting them now they have full internet browser access available.
Also means it will keep price at my estimated $399 tag, & considering it has the blu ray hd capabilities out of box & the 360 requires you to buy a seperate hd drive for an undetermined pricetag & will not be able to be used for games as well..... Well, I really don't see the problem.
xbox 360 premium pack $399
external add hd dvd drive $150-250
PS3 $399
hdd $99-199.
Whats the big deal, just buy the console that offers you what you want.... the games I personally crave is my reason for choosing ps3, not a storage device......
sam @ Feb 15th 2006 8:08AM
Dude that makes the deal even better. That way you dont get stuck with a lame 20 gb. I hope that is the case. I would definitely like the option of plugging in a 200 or 300 gb drive.
ea @ Feb 15th 2006 8:11AM
Freecajunlove is right, wait for Sony to release a price. Either way I'm getting one!
Zero_ @ Feb 15th 2006 8:18AM
What... doesn't Sony remember what happened with it's PS2 HDD? Add-ons rarely are successes. Just make the HDD cumpolsory Sony.
Jeremy Wright @ Feb 15th 2006 8:26AM
I'm not sure this is really "official" yet (could just be a mistake, it's happened before with Sony). But, if it is, I'll be disappointed. If they offer a Premium and Core package then it won't be so bad, as long as the Premium comes in under 500$. But, still, I'll be disappointed.
At that point, they'd need an absolutely killer launch lineup to make me buy it anytime before mid-2007. And, let's face it, that's really quite unlikely :(
Brian @ Feb 15th 2006 8:36AM
I hate the dual-pricing strategy. It's like "You can get our system, but it's going to be total crap unless you spend that extra $100."
Thomas Crymes @ Feb 15th 2006 8:47AM
Did anyone notice the Spring 2006 release date?
That indicates to me that this information is out of date. Not to mention that many people have indicated that the case design is not practical, and was listed as a "concept" at Sony's booth at CES.
It is on Sony's official site, but there are too many things that just seem out of sorts. How long has that web page been available (the copyright date is 2005, but that might not mean anything)? Could it just be something Sony threw up on their site to give potential XBox360 owners something to mull over before they purchased it?
My prediction, a $499 price tag for the main unit with a $99 add-on price for the HDD.
Jay @ Feb 15th 2006 8:48AM
so... its using a BluRay drive thats going to be slow as hell to play games, it will only be able to cache if you spend another 100 on a laptop HDD. BUT it will be Sony and have some kind of protection, so you can only use a special massively over-priced Sony HDD.
heh. This whole PS3 thing is making me giggle.
CuddleFish @ Feb 15th 2006 8:50AM
What makes you think you're getting the ability to play Blu Ray right out of the box. Has there been an official announcement? Maybe you have to buy a seperate remote in order to access it like the original Xbox did with its DVD player. Have we seen a pic of the Blu Ray remote? Will the PS3 have one? That would suck to have to use the controller as the remote. Maybe the PS3 will be priced at $399 without the HDD and without the ability to play Blu Ray movies. Maybe the HDD won't even be used to cache game data at all only be used for its media capabilities. We still don't know anything about the PS3 so everyone should just wait until the official announcements before bitching about anything.
AX @ Feb 15th 2006 9:00AM
Sony, NO. NO! The more I hear about X360 and PS3, the more I'm hoping Nintendo doesnt drop the ball.
T_T please nintendo, dont gamecube us again. SNES us!
jc @ Feb 15th 2006 9:06AM
I would really like the option of buying my own 2.5" HDD and installing it myself. I don't want to be overcharged for somthing I can buy at tigerdirect for a fraction of the cost Sony, MS or Nintendo would charge.
??? @ Feb 15th 2006 9:09AM
That's fine; I don't mind relinquishing the HDD as long as the memory card [a.k.a. core system ] doesn't cost an additional 100 bucks.
Michael @ Feb 15th 2006 9:10AM
Interesting things to me were:
1) The aforementioned Spring 2006 date, and
2) The thing not only reads Blu-ray it also writes Blu-ray (BD-E) as well as writing DVD's and CD's. This says something about Sony's plans. They may not intend to position this as a game station at all. It may be leaning more towards an all-in-one media/entertainment device that also plays games.
Michael
soco @ Feb 15th 2006 9:10AM
um the 360 doesn't have direct internet browsing support. the closest it has is the media center app thing where you're just viewing what the media center pc is doing.
anyway, i'm pretty indifferent. i'd rather it not ship with one and give you an option of which size to buy, and everyone can buy the one that's right for them. but i guess this means that there is probably going to be a split at the beginning and that there won't be DVR support for all of them ;) maybe we're looking at a PSX-2 ;)
now lets just hope that the thing ships with at least a 2x BD-ROM drive so the disc access isn't slow as crap.
blahsomething @ Feb 15th 2006 9:21AM
It's fine that it doesn't come with a harddrive because Sony already stated that the 2.5" harddrive slot can use ANY harddrive of that size...not just some Sony proprietary harddrive. This opens the possibility up of getting really cheap harddrives, or harddrives with massive capacity, not limited by Sony themselves. I mean, I'm certain they will have their own offereing with certain incentives (games and other software bundled), but they are taking a different approach this time with storage as they have with the PSP (Memory Stick which is a standard/cross platform format and not just a proprietary format for the PSP only). The flexibility this offers, especially if PS3 turns out to be the media hub Sony is talking it up to be, will be necessary.
Nico @ Feb 15th 2006 9:33AM
#18 is on the money. The PS3 is not just a console but an all in one mediacenter.
This is what Kutaragi was refering to when he said that the 360 was buildt to compete with the ps2 and the xbox 1.5 comment. It also fits well with the chang3 slogan...
Look to the psp for hints.
Kamalot @ Feb 15th 2006 9:45AM
I remember hearing the same news about the PS2 hard drive.
What a waste.
If the Hard Drive isn't standard, developers won't use it.
Thomas Crymes @ Feb 15th 2006 10:01AM
I missed the part about the Blu-Ray and DVD write capabilities. Now I know it is all just a marketing ploy. I can guarantee you that the Blue Ray discs will not be writable. I'd be surprised if any media was writable.
We're better off just ignoring this information all together.
DG @ Feb 15th 2006 10:02AM
I completely expect the PS3 to be a DRM nightmare, and given Sony's past, that's really the only reasonable explanation. All the same, this current generation seems more like PCs in fancy boxes than dedicated game systems. Furthermore, it looks like that's all that people want. And if Sony DRMs their new machine to death, forget about it. I think people want a game system and movie machine that Just Works. Somehow, I have the feeling the PS3 won't do that. Just a hunch.
epobirs @ Feb 15th 2006 10:07AM
I have no problem with the hard drive as an optional item. Keeping the price down for those initially just interested in a high-end game console and letting grow its capabilities as they gain interest is reasonable. The critical issue is the need for Sony to deliver it in a timely fashion. The HDD situation on the PS2 was pathetically mishandled.
With an item so standard as a hard drive there was no excuse for it not to be available within six months of the US launch and minimal support of it required for all developers. This would mean using the drive as a location for game saves. Any features beyond that would be up to the developers as to whether it is worth the investment for the game in question. Just having an effectively bottomless memory card for reasonable but profitable for Sony price would have been sufficient to insure a large percentage of PS2 owners would buy the drive. This in turn would greatly improve the viability of doing games that require large amounts of storage and cannot be done properly on a platform lacking a hard drive or comparable device.
Since the PS3 is intended to have slots for the major flash card standards, reasonably priced storage in the hundreds of MBs to one or more GB is covered. This leaves the hard drive free to target really massive volumes of at least 100 GB or greater, with the accompany price points Sony would be inclined to charge.
I don't minds add-ons for extended high-end features. The issue has always been fumbled deliveries that left third party publishers wary of lending their support. If Sony has learned their lesson from the PS2 they could keep the cost of entry down for the PS3 while offering excellent growth options.
epobirs @ Feb 15th 2006 10:09AM
I have no problem with the hard drive as an optional item. Keeping the price down for those initially just interested in a high-end game console and letting grow its capabilities as they gain interest is reasonable. The critical issue is the need for Sony to deliver it in a timely fashion. The HDD situation on the PS2 was pathetically mishandled.
With an item so standard as a hard drive there was no excuse for it not to be available within six months of the US launch and minimal support of it required for all developers. This would mean using the drive as a location for game saves. Any features beyond that would be up to the developers as to whether it is worth the investment for the game in question. Just having an effectively bottomless memory card for reasonable but profitable for Sony price would have been sufficient to insure a large percentage of PS2 owners would buy the drive. This in turn would greatly improve the viability of doing games that require large amounts of storage and cannot be done properly on a platform lacking a hard drive or comparable device.
Since the PS3 is intended to have slots for the major flash card standards, reasonably priced storage in the hundreds of MBs to one or more GB is covered. This leaves the hard drive free to target really massive volumes of at least 100 GB or greater, with the accompany price points Sony would be inclined to charge.
I don't mind add-ons for extended high-end features. The issue has always been fumbled deliveries and ill conceived price structures that left third party publishers wary of lending their support. If Sony has learned their lesson from the PS2 they could keep the cost of entry down for the PS3 while offering excellent growth options.
PlayerUK @ Feb 15th 2006 10:12AM
@18
It can't write Blu-ray disks, it can only read written ones, like the PS2 could read DVD-R's etc.
As for the HDD, it probably won't come with one, but I would like to point out that this has been on that website for about 5 months now, so it may have changed since. I can't believe this is the first time it has been noticed.
NewtonHeath @ Feb 15th 2006 10:13AM
Now I'm no expert, but even if it came with a 1x blu ray couldn't the firmware be upgraded to allow faster access? As I said, no expert, but if it can spin a regular dvd superfast whats to stop it reading a blu ray one fast at some point. I'm sure there may well be a valid reason.
Also, given the PSP and how they tote it as not just a game machine I'm guessing the HDD is for DVR capabilities plus online game data like xbox 360 (if they manage to pull it off that is).
Dalton Marks @ Feb 15th 2006 10:21AM
Why are we assuming all of a sudden that there will be two different models? Sony =/= Microsoft when it comes to consoles.
Thryon @ Feb 15th 2006 10:26AM
not only reads Blu-ray it also writes Blu-ray (BD-E) as well as writing DVD's and CD's
Could someone give me a link to this info somewhere? I could not find one bit of information anywhere that supports this. As anyone knows when a burner list its specs, it diplays both READ and WRITE info seperatly. On this image, I see only one list of specs. That leads me to believe that only READ capabilities are available.
epobirs @ Feb 15th 2006 10:46AM
Kizza, the chances of a virus affecting the Xbox 360 currently is approximately zero. It doesn't do web browsing itself. It just mirrors the output of a browser running on a Windows Media Center system. None of the code is running on the 360 itself.
Even if it did have a native browser, which is a strong possibility down the road, the likelihood is still extremely small for the same reasons you very rarely hear of a virus targeting a known hole in Linux or MacOS. A big part of effective virus transmission on Windows is population density. A virus targeting a Linux vulnerability would have a far lesser chance of finding similar Linux systems to infect. In the Linux world the big worry is criminals directly tageting a specific business' systems for theft rather than seeking to gain control of consumer desktops. Population density is less of an issue when you aren't taking the scattershot approach.
Given an Xbox 360 web browser you would still need several items to make it worthwhile for the typical virus writer to target the platform. First, a decent population level. Second, an identifed means to remotely get unsigned code running on the 360 via the browser. Third, the knowledge of the Xbox 360 prgramming environment to create the payload code. This isn't a PC running Windows with all the programming info detailed in every chain bookstore on the continent. Even given a thriving homebrew community the obstacles to doing this are such that most of virus creating mindset just aren't going to bother. Otherwise there would far more attempts to attack known vulnerabilities in the less numerous PC platforms.
NewtonHeath, you are assuming that firmware is the sole obstacle to faster operational speeds in first generation BD-ROM drives. That would work if it were just a matter of finetuning the software side of the device but at this stage there are likely other issues on the mechanical side that make it unviable. with as much as Sony has riding on the PS3's success it seems very unlikely they'd forego a performance boost at little cost.
The ability to read DVDs at high speed has little bearing on the issue. DVDs are a very different format and mechanical and software requirements to achieve high read rates from them is well documented and established. For Blu-ray they're treading new ground and cannot deliver improvements at a whim.
Dalton, we aren't assuming anything. We're discussing a possibility. That said, the more Sony lengthens the function list for the PS3 the more likely having two or more PS3 packages to choose from beocomes. It already appears that the new machine will, like the Xbox 360, have a significantly higher cost of entry compared to its brand predecessor. (The 360 Core package pretty requires the purchase of a $40 memory card, so still cost more than the Xbox even after factoring for inflation.) Sony is perfectly aware that they could drive a big chunk of their market into the arms of Nintendo and Microsoft if they make the PS3 cost of entry too high.
emacs @ Feb 15th 2006 11:03AM
0_o
those specs were announced about nine (9) months ago and you folks are treating this as current news?!?!
LaughingMan @ Feb 15th 2006 12:03PM
#2 is absolutely right. Where are all the 12 year olds saying "OMG wut would u want a core PS3 fir its so lame just a way for P$3 too get mor money." Now everyone is so complimentary and polite over the hard drive option, whereas they delighted in ripping MS a new one for the core/premium bundles.
don_sf @ Feb 15th 2006 12:19PM
what the best thing sony should do is exactly what they done with the psp.
psp comes with 32 mb standard, not much but enough for people who dont need the video and mp3 and that.
ps3 should come with something like 1 or 2 gb standard hard drive. and why would you want blu ray re writer, its a games machine. if you wanna copy your games and that, you can buy 2gb mmd, flash cards and a hard drive. you might even be able to transfer your ps3 files with blu tooth and wifi.
when you buy psp, you feel your money is worth it coz u get such a nice quality product with sooo much to do. this is how ps3 will be.
dsub @ Feb 15th 2006 12:31PM
hmmm...the PS3 is the only system on that page that DOESN'T have size and weight specifications...maybe they are having trouble fitting it into that case? Who knows.
Personally, I think the optional hard-drive was inevitable. The reason being, that HDD's are one component that really is tough to have made at a lower cost, because it's essentially a PC harddrive in a different casing to attach to the system. Microsoft said over and over that one of the biggest reason's they never broke-even on XBOX was because it had the hard-drive in it, and it was expensive to include. The solution?
Package it separately (you know everyone will buy it) and charge enough money for it so that you can make profit on it as an accessory. The retail price for a 40GB 2.5" HDD is around $70-100, and the markup on these things from wholesale isn't really much (maybe $10-$20 per HDD) so you have to assume that sony is essentially paying "X" HDD manufacturer $50 per HDD, plus whatever it costs them have it fitted within the proper enclosure to fit in the system, AND whatever it costs to incorporate hardware allowing it to work with the different interface the system has. The end result is easily near $100 cost for them, probably just under, but if they can sell it for $100 and make $10 off of it, it beats putting it IN the console for the retail price and taking a $100 hit extra on every system.
The point is, it costs MS and Sony so much to make these machines that they really have to choice but to make the HDD separate, otherwise there likely to never break even on the console.
dsub @ Feb 15th 2006 12:33PM
hmmm...the PS3 is the only system on that page that DOESN'T have size and weight specifications...maybe they are having trouble fitting it into that case? Who knows.
Personally, I think the optional hard-drive was inevitable. The reason being, that HDD's are one component that really is tough to have made at a lower cost, because it's essentially a PC harddrive in a different casing to attach to the system. Microsoft said over and over that one of the biggest reason's they never broke-even on XBOX was because it had the hard-drive in it, and it was expensive to include. The solution?
Package it separately (you know everyone will buy it) and charge enough money for it so that you can make profit on it as an accessory. The retail price for a 40GB 2.5" HDD is around $70-100, and the markup on these things from wholesale isn't really much (maybe $10-$20 per HDD) so you have to assume that sony is essentially paying "X" HDD manufacturer $50 per HDD, plus whatever it costs them have it fitted within the proper enclosure to fit in the system, AND whatever it costs to incorporate hardware allowing it to work with the different interface the system has. The end result is easily near $100 cost for them, probably just under, but if they can sell it for $100 and make $10 off of it, it beats putting it IN the console for the retail price and taking a $100 hit extra on every system.
The point is, it costs MS and Sony so much to make these machines that they really have to choice but to make the HDD separate, otherwise there likely to never break even on the console.
My prediction? Sony PS3 "core" unit: $500, detachable 40 or 80GB HDD, $100. This will in turn cause MS to start selling bigger HDD's for $100. See how nice competition is?
jabbertrack @ Feb 15th 2006 12:58PM
#29 epobirs -
It's so nice to read a voice of reason on Joystiq. Too bad 99% of people will gloss over your post and resort to typical brand-loyalty banter.
Dan Choi @ Feb 15th 2006 3:17PM
Re: the comments that the page listed is "old"
I'll grant that the contents of the page have been up for a while. Leaving these specs up for so long, however, would lead me to believe that Sony's actually moving in this direction (considering the company's refusal to officially confirm much about system bundles and price points). Unless Sony decides to pull an about-face and include the HDD in every system, this insight is, in my opinion, a valuable one.
gamer1 @ Feb 15th 2006 4:06PM
What is good about this is that it looks like youll be able to use memory stick, SD memory card, or compact flash as well. Also, they did not mention how the hard drive will be connected. If it is by USB, then that gives many more options to the user, such as using your ipod to store data, as well as other USB compatible hard drives.
I do agree that the price is an issue though, as people who dont have any of those devices will have to fork out additional money to play online, download games and demos, and download new patches. The PS3 will be expensive enough as they currently expect it to be.
MarkTAW @ Feb 15th 2006 4:13PM
Multiple pricing levels is an industry standard way of maximizing profits. You offer a stripped down version for people who wouldn't by the standard version, and you buy a premium version for people who are willing to spend extra money.
*EVERY* business does this, most notoriously airlines, but you can find the same thing happening with stuff like laundry detergent and Lord of the Rings DVDs. Just look at Dodge & Chrysler minivans, there's no denying they're the same basic thing, but $10,000 worth of trim & marketing separates them.
Sony will offer multiple versions of the PS3, just as Microsoft will offer Home, Pro, Corporate, Media Center, and Server editions of Longhorn.
JohnQ @ Feb 15th 2006 4:43PM
I truly hope that the PS3 will come with a mandatory hard drive, even if it's only 20GB.
If half of the PS3 owners don't have hard drives, then the developers will go for the bottom line. They won't have any incentive to add caching support or custom soundtrack support for example. Caching support would really cut down or even eliminate loading times.
Another possibility is having the data on game discs compressed and then extracted on the hard drive as it's needed in realtime. That would allow games to be larger, more immersive, and have more graphical detail.
Also one of the main advantages of the hard drive is having a limitless memory card.
FRED WEST @ Feb 15th 2006 7:22PM
SEING AS MY VIRUS FEAR HAS BEEN ANULLED, IM OF THE MIND THAT A HDD WOULD BE GOOD FOR SAVE GAMES. i CURRENTLY HAVE 5 ps2 MEMORY CARDS & THE COST OF THEM WOULD FAR OUTWEIGH A HDD. IF SONY BRING THE HHD OUT AT SAME TIME AS CONSOLE LAUNCH, IT WILL BE FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN THE LAST ATTEMPT. I THINK IT WAS LIKE 2-3 YR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSOLE LAUNCH & HDD LAUNCH LAST TIME. AND US HERE IN AUS. NEVER SAW IT.
IF IT CAN BE USED FOR SAVE GAMES & EXTRA GAME CONTENT DOWNLOAD I'LL GET ONE WITH MY PS3 ON LAUNCH DAY FOR SURE. JUST FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT RELY ON DEVELOPERS TO HAVE BUG FREE ONLINE GAMES & PATCHES ARE OFTEN REQUIRED WILL MAKE IT WORTH IT TO ME.
AS FOR THE DUDE THAT WAS QUESTIONING THE BLU RAY CAPABILITIES........ YES, IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED OFFICIALLY BY SONY, IT IS THEIR MAIN SELLING POINT & ONE OF THE ONLY CONCRETE FACTS THEY ARE WILLING TO SHOUT FROM THE ROOFTOPS. ALSO REMEMBER THAT THEY WANT TO BRING THIS TO THE AVERAGE CONSUMER WITH EASE OF USE, SO AS TO SELL THEM BLU RAY MOVIES & GAMES.
ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT WAS XBOX 1 & MS LAST GEN THAT RELEASED THEIR CONSOLE 18MTHS AFTER SONYS & THEY FORCED YOU TO BUY A DVD REMOTE TO ENABLE DVD PLAYBACK, WHILE SONY'S OLDER CONSOLE WAS OUT OF THE BOX READY.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT I WILL BE BUYING A PS3 ON LAUNCH REGARDLESS OF A HDD DRIVE..... I LOVE GAMES.... AND I LOVE THE GAMES THAT ARE RELEASED ON SONY'S HARDWARE THE BEST. AND THIS IS COMING FROM A MASSIVE EX-NINTENDO FAN FROM THE SNES DAYS. MS& NINTENDO ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO START PULLING RABBITS FROM THEIR HATS, AS SONY HAS THE FANBASE & LOYAL CUSTOMER DOMINANCE THAT NINTENDO HAD IN THE 16BIT DAYS. ALL THIS CULMINATES FROM SONY'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT & KEEP SOME OF THE BEST DEVELOPERS IN THE BIZ. THIS WITH THE ALLEGED HANDICAP OF BEING LESS POWERFUL THAN THE OTHER HARDWARE AVAILABLE. I GUESS THIS JUST BACKS UP THE AGE OLD ADAGE THAT ITS THE GAMES THAT COUNT.
MY EXPERIENCE FROM SONY'S LAST 2 CONSOLES TELL ME THAT THE PS3 WILL BE THE SAME, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT HAS A HDD OR THE LONG LIST OF OTHER USELESS (TO GAMERS) FEATURES THAT SEEMS TO BE COMING FROM SPECULATORS WORDS, INSTEAD OF THE SOURCE.
Steven @ Feb 15th 2006 9:25PM
Although I support some parts of your points, must you type in caps?
Adam sM @ Feb 16th 2006 2:22AM
Holy CRAP!!!
I cannot scroll down to look at the specs [Firefox on Linux].
I.E. THEIR WEBSITE IS BROKEN.
Wasn't the PS3 supposed to BE a linux box?!?
Not even out'ha gate and it's already a slave of the Empire.
SONY, get your head in the game.
World Of Warcraft Screenshots @ Feb 16th 2006 4:26AM
Sweet, let's make the same mistake Microsoft made. Maybe it will be the year of the "Revolution" afterall.
Thryon @ Feb 16th 2006 1:01PM
The question was not about if the PS3 had Blu-Ray for not, the question was when did they confirm WRITE capabilities on this BLU RAY drive? (and a link where this can be confirmed, as per #18 comments).