Tekken Dark Resurrection details for PSP [Update 2]
Yes, a non-2D fighter is coming to the
PSP, and its name is Tekken Dark
Resurrection. The summer Japanese release will drop the 5 from its title--the arcade incarnation was
known as Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection--but add a number of features such as time attack, practice mode, and
mini-games, as well as Ad-Hoc wireless multiplayer.Also included will be the two arcade-original characters Dragonuv and Lili (along with updated stages and hopefully more items for character customization), which could make this purchase a bit more worthwhile for owners of the PS2 version of Tekken 5, a game that has taken its lumps with its victories.
For fuzzy pics of the best game starring ursine and marsupial fighters, check out the GAF forums for a few timely scans. Maybe we'll finally catch a glimpse of Jet Li as an in-game "boxer" (well, probably one of the Tekken fighters) when it gets closer to the movie's release date. Maybe. [Update: Clearer screenshots have now been released by Gpara and Watch Impress, so a few prettier pics have been posted below as well. Thanks, Tim! Official pics are available as well. Thanks, creamsugar!]
[Thanks, Jon D, Agent X, & Kevin]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Ghost @ Feb 17th 2006 12:05AM
SWEET!!!
I'm a huge Tekken fan, even though I'm not into all of the customizing your characters apperance, just not for me, I do love the way it's improving on the fighting mechanics.
I'll definitly be getting this game.
Jago @ Feb 17th 2006 12:58AM
Ad-Hoc multiplayer?
WTF? I swear...does Sony NOT want it's system to even TRY and compete with the DS? I mean a franchise as big as this would be great with REAL wifi multiplayer.
creamsugar @ Feb 17th 2006 4:30AM
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tkdrpsp/
http://namco-ch.net/tekken_dr/
JRM @ Feb 17th 2006 7:08AM
Ad-Hoc?? Is there something wrong with sony's wifi or something?
Tesla @ Feb 17th 2006 7:47AM
Just so you know Jago -1 stars ...
Tekken != Sony.
Tekken is made by Namco.
Chris Clark @ Feb 17th 2006 8:27AM
Jago,
How in the hell can you look at these screenshots and say that it's not competing with the DS?!?!?!? Can the DS even remotely resemble these graphix on a handheld?
Further, the myth that the DS has a larger library of better games should be debunked. They may have million dollar sellers but that's because a strong majority of their market are kids. Kids have no money and ask for their parents to buy them a system. In the eyes of the parents, cheaper ALWAYS WINS. Therefore, more DS systems bought by mothers, more copies of Mario Kart, etc.
Finally, if you don't believe me about my theory of the myth, go to www.gamespot.com. Look at the reviews for the latest DS games and compare them to the reviews of the latest PSP games. The DS has ONE game that's rated 8 or over, the PSP has FIVE. The DS also has the only game rated in the 3's. Do you still believe that brainwashed hullabaloo that Nintendo focuses more on gaming? The PSP has better rated games, PLUS all the extras.
pwned
Jago @ Feb 17th 2006 12:35PM
WTH are you guys talking about? I was simply referring to that fact that a game franchise as big as this would be perfect if it used infrastructure multiplayer...ya know...REAL multiplayer.
Chris Clark:
You lost all credibility when you said:
"strong majority of their market are kids"
Hate to break it to you but there are quite a few adults and teenagers who also buy the DS b/c *GASP* it has more games that are appealing to everyone.
Oh and in case you didn't know, the DS has been outselling the PSP in every market. Just b/c ONE website has 5 PSP games rated at 8 or higher doesn't automatically mean they are great. "Reviews" are just one persons opinion and one review should be taken as the "end all be all" either.
Tesla:
Your post:
"Just so you know Jago -1 stars ...
Tekken != Sony.
Tekken is made by Namco."
Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...
Tesla @ Feb 17th 2006 1:06PM
Jago -1 stars,
Since you're [flame], I will spell it out for you which seems to happen all to often in your responses to my posts. You have nothing to come back with and just seem to say that they make no sense.
Since you were [flame] to say:
"Ad-Hoc multiplayer?
WTF? I swear...does Sony NOT want it's system to even TRY and compete with the DS? I mean a franchise as big as this would be great with REAL wifi multiplayer."
I just pointed out that Sony doesn't make the Tekken series. They are done by Namco. I thought you said in a previous post you had something to do with computers in real life. Most programming languages have != as the not equal to symbol. I guess you're [flame]. You really need to [flame again].
Jago @ Feb 17th 2006 1:17PM
I know Tekken is a Namco game BUT it is still a Sony platform and Sony could have negotiated with them and helped them make then a true multiplayer game.
Also, I've never stated that I was a programmer (I actually find it boring as a matter of fact) but I do work with computers.
It is also pretty pathetic that you have to resort to such childish name calling in order to [flame in response].
I'm no fanboy btw...I own the PSP and will most likely buy Tekken b/c it (along with DoA) is my favorite fighting game series.
Chris Clark @ Feb 17th 2006 4:22PM
Jago, it is true that a strong majority of the gaming market in general are kids. That is a strong majority. So when these kids want to get a game system, cheaper always wins. The DS wins in every market because cheaper always wins in general. That is the same reason why Windows won the OS war over Apple/Macintosh. Windows can provide a similar experience with their OS and it can be done on cheaper hardware and software, period. Does that mean that because something is more popular that it is better?
You see, your argument is that something is better because it's more popular among the buying masses (ie the DS outsells the PSP in every market). However, I am arguing that in the viewpoint of the PROFESSIONAL CRITICS, that there are higher rated games for the PSP. I would tend to argue that critics hold more weight than the masses. A lot of people like Ashley Simpson, in fact her video is #1 on TRL. Therefore it's better than anything else right? Because it's voted by the people that way? No. Those who are professionally trained in music, journalism, or is a real musician themselves know more about music.
Therefore, the critics across the board rate PSP games higher than DS. It doesn't matter if more people are buying the DS. It doesn't mean that the PSP is not competing with the DS.
Oh, and your original argument was that the PSP was not trying to compete with the DS because ANOTHER COMPANY made a game that was without online multiplayer. The DS didn't even have that to begin with, and have few games that have it now so what do you mean? They also didn't originally have a browser function but are now adding it. It appears to me that Nintendo is equally trying to compete with Sony here.
Chris Clark @ Feb 17th 2006 4:25PM
Also, what are these games that are appealing to everyone? I didn't know that was possible that all possible consumers in the world fall under one demographic when it comes to specific videogames made only by Nintendo. That sort of seems illogical. The only things that are universally appealing are those that are normal goods, that are unaffected by income change. These things are food, clothing shelter, etc. There is no game/game system or any piece of electronics out there that is universally appealing.
Jago @ Feb 17th 2006 5:01PM
You can taught all you want how great the PSP's games are b/c ONE website rated some of its games higher then the DSs. The ONLY thing that matters in the end is if the software and hardware sell...and guess what? DS software AND DS hardware sell. They sell REALLY well as a matter of fact and the proof is the Top 10 sales charts for software and weekly hardware sales.
Also just b/c Tekken is a non-Sony branded product doesn't mean Sony couldn't work with them. There are games on the DS that are not developed by Nintendo but Nintendo has some kind of input on the project. If Namco were to make a title that included REAL wifi multiplayer, sold well AND was really popular online then that could help Sony as well. The whole point of having a portable system with 802.11b wifi capability is to be able to play anyone...anywhere. Look at how fast the DS took off once the Nintendo WiFi titles started coming out.
Yea parents do buy kids the DS, especially since it is cheaper BUT you seem to deny that PLENTY of adults buy it and ENJOY the DS more then the PSP. I'm 25 and I own both systems and guess which one gets more play right now? The DS. Why? It has games that are fresh and offer a new twist to playing games on a portable. Hell where I work the DS is MORE popular then the PSP and I work at a game media company. MY g/f (who is NOT a gamer btw) works at a game developer and they have Mario Kart tournaments EVERY week.
Oh and there are PLENTY of games that appeal to a broad spectrum of people. Proof? Metoes, Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, Mario Kart...and lets not forget Tetris. Tetris is a game that ANYONE can play b/c it is so easy to play yet tough as nails to master.
To show you that critic's reviews are all subjective, the DS has MORE higher rated titles on IGN then the PSP. If you only read ONE website's OPINION on a game than they is pretty naive.
Chris Clark @ Feb 17th 2006 5:31PM
For the most part, people or consumers make their decisions on a biase. This is why everyone claims the same thing about the DS and PSP. They are conditioned to believe and say the same thing. This is why everyone believes that all Nintendo games are universally appealing, when no game is universally appealing. If they were, then I wouldn't be arguing this to you.
Also, how many games are rated higher for DS than PSP on IGN? Is it a certain amount, for a certain period of releases? Be more specific. It is true that critics are subjective. They are only human, we are all subjective. However, those who are trained in something have a more important opinion than "what you've heard".
The fact that it comes down to sales figures still doesn't mean much. I've demonstrated before that the opinion of the majority doesn't correlate into the correct opinion. Most people have an idea about how things should be, but those who are professional or professionally trained in that particular field know more about what they're talking about.
Again, there is nothing that is universally appealing in this market. Tetris is one of those games that comes somewhat close to being liked by all GAMERS, but still not universally appealing. Lumines is also a game in which I haven't seen one bad professional review on, nor have I heard someone say that they didn't like it. Both systems have games that are somewhat appealing to all of their respective systems fanbase, but not to all or to all gamers even.
Nintendogs is not appealing to me at all, neither is Animal Crossing. I am sure that Lumines or GTA: LCS are both not universally appealing either.
I most surely do not only read one website's review. However, I find that basing my opinions slightly on the reviews of professional critics outweigh buying based on what sells better. Also, Sony does not control what other game companies develop for their system. It really doesn't work that way. They do however control what games they make.
Finally, a lot of the games for the DS (like the PSP) are just ports of system games 5 - 10 years ago. Very few games utilize the touch screen and when they do, it's to press start or use a map.
Jago @ Feb 17th 2006 6:31PM
DS vs. PSP scores:
10: (0) vs. (0)
9: (7) vs. (3)
8: (19) vs. (17)
7: (21) vs. (36)
6: (20) vs. (15)
That is based on IGN and again that is just based the opinions of their editors. These so-called "professionals" you keep brining up for game reviews are no different then you and I. Sure some of them might have degress in journalism, etc. but they basically gamers getting paid to voice their opinion on games.
You seem to think that if a large number of people think a game/system/designer/etc. is great that it is just a mass agreeing on something and that in actuality it isn't great. Hate to break it to you but that isn't always the case. IF you were read interviews from people of when they first saw/played Super Mario Bros., Pac Man, Donkey Kong, etc. A LOT of them all had similar reactions and experiences. This can be said for people who are gamers and those are NOT gamers. It wasn;t like they all met up in some secret society and decided before hand to have the same reaction.
Sorry but Tetris is a UNIVERSAL game that appeals to just about EVERYONE. My parents play Tetris...hell they play a lot of the games on PopCap, MSN Games, etc. Oh and guess who happens to work for MSN Games and has designed some of their best ones? Alexey Pazhitnov, the original creator of Tetris.
If the DS is not that appealing to the adult market then why is it selling so well to ADULTS in Japan? Why is that ADULTS are buying the DS and holding Mario Kart tournaments, exchanging friend codes for Animal Crossing, etc.
Again, I know that Sony does not control what Namco does with it's games. But since it develops games for it's system (and they also happen to be system sellers a lot of the time), Sony could have helped them to develop a real wifi multiplayer system for that title. Sony themselves didn't develop SOCOM on the PSP but I bet you that they had a lot of input on that title since it is based on ya know...the PS2's largest online franchise.
"Very few games utilize the touch screen and when they do, it's to press start or use a map."
Have you even actually PLAYED any recent DS games?
Kirby Canvas Curse: You play the ENTIRE game with the stylus
Yoshi Touch n Go: You use the stylus to play the entire game AND the microphone.
WarioWare: You use the stylus extensively and the microphone
Nintendogs: You use the stylus to play the entire game AND the microphone.
Trauma Center: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Phoenix Wright: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Meteos: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Pac Pix: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Pac n Roll: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Feel the Magic & The Rub Rabbits: You use the stylus to play the entire game AND the microphone.
Polarium: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Zookeeper: You play the entire game with the stylus.
Need me to continue or do you get the point?
Chris Clark @ Feb 17th 2006 7:34PM
Your point is still invalid. I never said that because more people buy it, that it's bad I said that it's not always the case. I also said that you should not base something as being good based on how many people agree. You are still not getting my point? Still, what happened to your theory that these games are universally appealing? What ever happened to that idea....
Plus, the whole "if you talk to people" thing is an invalid argument. You can talk to anyone and get any type of answer you want to get. You have to create an argument that's based on something you can prove, not "I've heard a lot of people say..."
Besides, your original point that the PSP is not competitive with the DS is completely invalid still. You are 25 and you don't realize that it's not in the price of items but their actual profit margin?
Also, almost every game you just listed are for little kids. Kirby Touch and Go? Warioware? Feel the Magic & The Rub Rabbits? Zookeeper? ANIMAL CROSSING? My girlfriend is a school teacher and she is teaching one of her children to tie their shoes and in return he wants a copy of Animal Crossing. What are you doing still playing with it at 25? By the way, I am your same age.
I have played some of these games as demos in the store. Warioware, in particular is not really a full game, just a set of mini games that utilize the gimmicky touch screen. I'd much rather have a system that focuses more on technical expertise and multi-functionality.
Finally, my original argument still stands (that started this) that the major demographics for the DS is small children. It's clear in the games that they make for it, or have made. Because, oh my gosh, other companies do make games for their system *cough*Namco*cough*. My original argument of cheaper always winning and not necessarily making the item better also still stands. Your argument that Nintendo games are universally appealing is not however. For the most part, Animal Crossing is for kids. It's marketed for kids and it's bought in great deal by or for kids. If you like it, then you are a customer but outside of the normal demographic.
How do you know it's adults that are mostly buying DS' in Japan? Do you have access to this specific market data? Again, you with the "people are doing it in Japan therefore I am validated".
Overall, I find it funny that you posted that last comment. This is coming from a 25 year old Animal Crossing player who doesn't know that Sony doesn't make all their own games. Don't bother replying, my girlfriend and I are going out now and I won't care enough to look back. [Flame.]
jello @ Feb 17th 2006 7:38PM
ok you 2 are going way to far with this crap lol, just so maybe you 2 can end this crap with these long ass posts, maybe you 2 can exchange emails and argue your dumb arguments.
as for my 2 cents ;)
jagos has a point these DS games are very fresh games, and theres only been one port and thats super mario 64 with some added stuff. You can spin it anyway you want but consoles that do well, only do well because of their software and so far its the only reason why the DS is outselling the PSP so badly. and until the PSP stops comin out with so many ports of its own, or makes some more original games that werent on the PS2 then maybe one day theyll take the lead. by the way comparing TR fucking L to the video game industry was just stupid. just bite your tongue already and be content that you paid some $250 for your portable thats not in the lead in sales. and who cares about sales anyway, unless you own stock in the company it shouldnt really matter to you. now stfu both of you and go watch a UMD cuz im sure your probably bored with your psp ports like most of my friends who bought psps and barely use them.
lol
Dan Choi @ Feb 17th 2006 8:37PM
Thanks for those links, creamsugar!
As for the rest of you guys, please keep it civil. Can't we discuss this without calling each other (and our consoles) insulting names? To defend the DS, the first two Brain Age titles both sold over a million copies in Japan each, mostly to middle-age and older adults. Nintendogs found quite a niche with older folks as well, with at least half its numbers coming from the over-18 crowd (providing another example of the company's "disruptive" corporate strategy). See the slides from Iwata's TGS talk in September for hard numbers:
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/15/joystiq-tgs-bach-and-iwata-keynotes/
and
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/16/joystiq-tgs-satoru-iwatas-keynote-speech-and-presentation/
As one of you stated, please back up your platform labels with hard numbers if you're gonna use 'em.
Jago @ Feb 17th 2006 9:41PM
If you have a problem with me playing games that are rated "E" (you know...EVERYONE) and have some kind of "image" to maintain and want to look "cool" then why are even playing games? You do realize that regardless of what games you play, people still see games as "toys" or something for the "younger" audience. Unlike you I don't really care what others think of me playing games, I am not ashamed of it and I never will be...I have no reason to.
There is also no reason for you to jump to conclusions and INSULT me b/c I still play games, I use my DS almost every day, (as of lately) I play my Gamecube almost every day. Do you know why? No of course you don't. Let me clear it up for you...I work in game industry and will continue to work in the game inudstry as my career choice. 2 of my managers are in their mid-30's, married (both with kids) AND they play most of those games I listed out for you.
Warioware btw ALWAYS has been about short minigames...that has always been the focus of the and the fact that they are so bizarre is why it has been so successful. Just b/c a game isn't "realistic" looking, doesn't allow you the ability to kill everyone or shot anything that moves doesn't mean it isn't good. If you honestly think that then I wonder what your opinions are on Katamari Damacy. A title that was designed by STUDENTS in Japan, it has been uniformly praised by the entire industry and is a fan favorite of a lot of people (regardless of what platform they prefer.)
Dan is also 100% correct that the Brain series games for the DS has found a HUGE following with the older crowd (and I'm sure the same will happen with their new Language series.) He is also 100% correct about the popularity of Nintendogs...in fact go shopping around looking for the 3 flavors of Nintendogs and I guarantee that you will have a hard time finding all 3 copies. My g/f works at game developer as a Production Coordinator and when I had her play with my copy of Nintendogs she fell in love with it...and she is not even a gamer. The only games I can get her to play are Mario Kart: Double Dash, Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2, Mario Party, Mario Kart DS, Nintendogs and the good ole' Super Mario Bros (which appeals to just about every too btw.)
As someone who works in the industry for a rather large media company and with closed friends in some of the largest studios in the industry...I guarantee that I know more then you do about the ins-n-outs plus secrets projects that have yet to be announced to the public.
Finally...if you can't have a civil discussion without resorting to insults then you might as well leave b/c you have nothing consturctive to add.