Xbox vets behind MSFT's portable game device

Darryl, post 37:

I agree, competition is good. I don’t think Microsoft will do well in the portable games market though, that picture...tacky, but then consider how far the DS came...

I disagree, that this site itself is Nintendo biased, There are far more articles posted that concern Xbox, Xbox360,] PS2, PS3 and PSP] compared to the number for Game cube, Rev and DS]. I don't need to show any figures, its all there. It seems to show that there is less Nintendo content for this site to use.

What you really mean is, that there’s more readers on this site and others, who prefer Nintendo compared to other game companies, probably through past experience of Nintendo products being good quality and fun. But yes, Sony and Microsoft has made some good products as well.
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I don't know how this star system works, but it dose seem to restrict what people say and I don't think that was the original idea of blogging. Its best to read comments from people who have negative stars though, they like to say what they want and sometimes have good points.

So yea, this star system is yet another pointless method of control of what we say and has no real value apart from psychological satisfaction, it should be ignored.

Everyone who already has negative stars probably already knows this.

how does it put it ahead of xbox?The stats don't lie.Gamecube should have had an upper hand which shows how bad the sales were.Who said that the Cube had not been around much longer than the XBox?You still cant deny xbox was more of a success than gamecube.Japan sales do not speak for the whole world

Looks kinda big, and if that is the design shown up there. Then no thanks. I'll stick with PSP and DS.

From reading these comments, and seeing past events I now agree with people like Cliffy B, that see an on coming gaming crash.

Why are people already championing a MS handheld device? They haven't turned a profit in on the xbox nor the xbox 360 systems, yet they are making a handheld device? I am not even going to act like this is some sort of informational rant, because it is not. This is just pure anger right now. I been a Nintendo fan boy since the days of Sega Master system, and I learned to love and respect sega even though they were nintendo's rivals. Competition is great for business. The problem is Competition is only great for business when:

A. The fans of that Industry care about the products of that are made by the producers and have discriminating taste.

B. the Producers of that industry respect the fans and their product.

That being said, WHAT THE HELL the PSP to this day has yet to put out a great gaming line up for gamers who want to take their fun with them. Instead we get an all in one media circus with rehashed games and clones, for this gamers have given them respect loyalty and blind admiration! SO what happens MICROSOFT JOINS THE FREY! I mean Doesn't anybody see the bloody pattern! Name one company in this world that continues to bleed money just to put out their product with no return on revenue? Because even if you don't like the game cube it made a profit? I really can't think of one company that has done what MS is doing and has survived.

Now I don't think Microsoft as a company will die that is insane, but can't anybody see beyond the Graphics and glitz? You people hope it plays WMV's Dvds, MP3s, do you even care about the games? I mean they are marketing it towards gamers, have you forgotten about the freaking Games! PSp survived, and on any other name this system would have died and gone the way of the dinosaur but because it was sony people hung on and continue to support it even though it has a lack of gaming content and the gaming content that it does have is poor. We are literally telling the world that we will buy anything if they say GAME and yada yada Yada along with it.

SO you got Oblivion on your PC on your 360 and now on your What? YOUr HANDHELD? FPS On the GO Driving sims rehashed, because MS won't ask the developers to create something new they seen the PSP sell with out doing anything more than adding music and movies. All this will do is stagnate the medium of the hand held system. Just like Xbox and Xbox 360 is doing to home consoles. High Priced games and graphics, but nothing else.

But hey I'm just a fanboy right, the video game console market is to strong to ever stagnate and die, lets just welcome everybody that makes a system, and has a big media name behind them Hell great for business right. And then when nobody can tell, cream from crap who do we blame? Psychonaunts not picked up Beyond good and Evil not picked up, but 50cent bullet proof went platinum. HandHelds are truely a Last bastion of gaming goodness, and we are throwing it away just to see our favorite companies who are making millions win. We aren't even caring about or favorite past time, we are just cheering for companies that sell us a product.

There is nothing gamer about blind loyalty and picking up every system, Paris Hilton can afford 1500 Neo Geos and all their games so she owns every system does that now make her the ultimate gamer? No knowing a good system with stellar games compared to a blind marketing plot to draw attraction is what makes you a gamer rather than somebody with to much free cash.

Last people always say stop complaining play what you like, or competition is good and the gamer benefits. Well lets see, game systems which were a reasonable hobby are now 400 dollars and up the games to play on these systems, are now 60 dollars and up cause we must add tax. Software makers deem who they want to produce for, on a whim, but man I am sure benefiting. I was playing what I liked till what I liked got the stigma of being kiddy, now to kill that stigma games are for adults, and must be violent and abusive, and cost the price of "adult items". Yet people keep saying I am benefitting.

I'll wait and see what Microsoft has to offer. I've got both the DS and PSP. Both have positives and negatives. The graphics on the PSP are way better than on the DS. Until a couple of weeks ago I was pretty disappointed with the games on the PSP, and I'll never buy a movie on UMD. There are a bunch of good games coming out this month for the PSP. I also like the fact that Sony is updating the PSP firmware to give it more features. I might not use them, but it is cool that they can. The functionality of DS won't change until Nintendo manufactures the new one. Pictochat is totally worthless on the DS without wifi. The best thing about the DS is that Nintendo makes games for it. Most of the Nintendo games are great especially now that Nintendo has wifi. I usually play the PSP and my kids play the DS.

did anyone actually read the article? theres no proof of microsoft working on a handheld platform other than an unnamed source; the fact that MS restructured the xbox team before launch, and that they hired tranmeta to work on a secret project.

for all we know, transmeta could be working on lowering the power consumption of the xbox360.

any journalist knows that you need to provide some form of proof. this guy has none. [but the first paragraph is a big ad for his upcoming book] i think its funny that the only quote in the entire article is a quote pulled from an article where peter moore denied the existence of a MS handheld.

now im not saying that MS may not be working on something; im just saying that this article has not one iota of proof in it. this article doesnt in any way confirm anything. so perhaps the blurb above may be slightly misleading. the article is yet another rumor. notice how the mercury news added the last paragraph regarding their stance on unconfirmed sources...

Bladestar, MS didn't invent 128 bit games. They didn't invent 32 bit games. They didn't invent 64 bit games.

I will be interested to see what shakes out.

I personally see this as a advantage to micosoft. Think about it, ok, lets say that they have it play regular dvds. dont you think that psp fans are gonna be a little jelous because they have to buy that crappy small thing that can only play on there psp. thus if they had it play normal sized dvd then they could play it on there dvd player at home.

+ think of halo on a portable device. =)

Bad idea if you ask me. It's too soon to consider it and Microsoft still doesn't have the one thing that Sony needed to serious challenge Nintendo's handheld dominance. Triple A+ first party support. Nintendo still has the best first party development in the industry. Their efforts have taken the charts by storm in Japan with multiple DS units selling beyond the millions. Animal Crossing: Wild World alone has already broken the 2.1 million mark in an era where 500,000 sold units is considered a success.

This week, Sony will finally have some decent gaming options for the PSP that aren't ports. If MS tries to outdo Sony by making a better PSP, it will sell to the MS faithful. But to be an all around success it has to focus on GAMES. PSP is not what it should be because Sony forgot what made them successful. It was the GAMES, not the "jack of all trades, master of none" multi function nonsense.
Will someone, somewhere tell these executives to stop trying to give us a bunch of crap we don't need and just give us the best device for the consumer to play games.

What the hell is the point of making a portable that is supposed to facilitate gaming on the go when you have excessive load time and piss poor battery life? The ultimate indignity is having a library for the PSP that is so lacking, that emulators and homebrew has become a selling point for it.
Take notes Microsoft on how not to market a portable from the PSP.

I find that microsoft going the console wars have not been healthy for gaming.But i do find in response to comment 51 Microsoft was doing the ony thing possible to compete.They needed to get brand awareness which is priceless in business.There was no other way companies are going to make a loss on their first console.Nintendo however may have made money...but so what is that all what fanboys think about.They think about a quality product which is popular enough that people can play and talk with one another about.Nintedo has lost this out to Sony but may change with the coming of the revolution.Microsoft have however added something to gaming(bar pc) - is that has brought a new generation in online gaming which Sony and Nintendo couldn't achieve.Nintedo has not had any major handheld competion in a long time since the psp came out.Already the handheld market feels crowded with Microsoft not helping the matter.

the xbox stats up there are the shipped ones, and the nintendo ones are sold, so they're not even the same thing... ... I don't think actual sell figures of the xbox are known..

Theres always room for one more. Besides whatever Microsoft is doing its gonna be a helluva lot better then the PSP.

For one im sure Microsoft is not gonna shove a new media format down our throats like Sony and the UMD, im sure theyll be using some sort of flash memory to store their games which in turn will offer excellent battery life.

Whatever they come up with will obviously blow out the PSP graphically. Didnt I just hear something about Intels new low power processing for portables??? We will just have to wait and see.

Of course Nintendo may release its new Gameboy next year and if that thing can play Cube games (which are already small in size) then Microsoft and Sony better quit before they take major losses.

no ones arguing about that but on the success of gamecube or lack of.Its funny how sony and microsoft's numbers are all shipped.Nintendo are not clean as well.Since there is not proof on how many are sold you had to rely on the stats because there are no other numbers.If there are no stats there is no way to track the progress of sales.However the shipped numbers are a good camouflage lol

A portable 1st gen XBox would be cool, but only with a machanism to transfer owned games to the device. If the device allowed owners of original XBOX disks to download the portable version of the game onto flash media which would then be used with the device, that would mean a built-in library for those who already have xbox games. They would probably DRM the flash games to the individual unique identifier of the portable device.

"It's funny how DS fans so quickly dismiss the PSP... a tinge of envy I detect."

Why would we be envious of an overpriced second-place console that plays a bunch of lousy games and "universal" media disc movies that are anything but?

I'll stick to playing good games on my DS and watching DVDs that I can watch on any computer or DVD player, thanks. And the PSP "directly" behind the DS? Hardly. The DS is trouncing the PSP in every region around the world.

While I wouldn't go so far as to say the PSP was a complete flop, it obviously didn't steal away the handheld market from Nintendo the way many Sony fanboys thought it would.

I really wonder:
1- What took them so long to get started on this ?
2- How Microsoft will trump the series of problems that faced the release of the PSP.
3- What will it play ??

Will I made this mock up in what I think the new handheld should look like. You all can trash it if you like, I just think it would be a cool concept.
http://tinyurl.com/h36ll

"49. David, the Cube has been around much longer than the XBox."

Can definately say that the Cube has not been out much longer then the Xbox

Xbox Release Dates
November 15, 2001 in North America,
February 22, 2002 in Japan,
March 14, 2002 in Europe.

Gamecube Release Dates
November 18, 2001 in North America;
September 14, 2001 in Japan
May 3, 2002 in Europe

Joystiq:

Please post a comment below the picture letting any unknowledgable visitor know that it is in fact a fake "photoshoped" picture to illustrate the point of a possible MS handheld? Of course, it would seem that this is pretty apparent, but it seems some people are just missing that. Thanks. Toodles.

Gamecube has been out longer than xbox i know i am outlining the point how poor the success it has been and that the revelution came out so quickly behind it.This shows that gamecube was not a success because they wouldn't have to replace it so quickly (the coment i made was supposed to be "hasn't" to clear thing up)

Sony WON the console wars and i find it hilarious that nintendo fanboys like to quickly dismiss other consoles as being a flop when they have been hardly ruling the console wars.The handheld wars have just started again and it will be intresting how it goes becuse nintendo has not had competition in that department for a long time

yea, nintendo definately didn't "invent" the touch screen, they weren't even the first ones to use it in a handheld. Anyone remember the Tiger Game.Com? I had one, it had a touch screen and a stylus, they even made Resident Evil for it. Granted, the screen was B&W, but still it was a neat little piece of HW, sorta like a beefed up gameboy crossed with a PDA. It also had 2 cartridge slots that you could choose from, so you could switch from game to game without removing cartridges.

http://www.vidgame.net/TIGER/GC.html

Please don't let it be just another piece of crap like the PSP...

i'm sick of seeing people say the touch screen was nintendos idea. have none of you ever played a game on a pda? also, nintendo wasn't the first to put motion sensing in a gamepad.