Warhawk, MotorStorm, & other bootleg GDC PS3 videos
by Dan Choi 
{ Apr 2nd 2006 at 2:08AM }
So, are you tired of bootleg stills from the upcoming PS3 titles featured at GDC? (Or bootleg videos from current-gen titles like God of War 2?) Well, it looks like you're in luck, as we've got a few fuzzy PS3 videos from Phil Harrison's speech, courtesy of the embargo-ignorin' folks at Multiplayer.it.
What we have above is a clip from the developer demo of Warhawk for the PS3. A voiceover describes the "ambient warfare" to be used in the air-combat simulation game, as well as the innovative mix of "Cell-based software rendering with RSX-based hardware rendering" to produce the graphics. For all you coders out there, it was also interesting to note that the programs running on the Cell's SPUs were not written in low-level assembly (easing development, but possibly degrading performance).
While we wait until E3, when a playable version of Warhawk was promised to be delivered, here are a few more PS3 videos from GDC that you might find interesting (with a few unfortunately quite incomplete):
- Streamed video
of MotorStorm GDC footage, also with a voiceover.
- Streamed speeded-up video clips (no audio) of Warhawk, Getaway 3, Lair, the Havoc physics demo from Heavenly Sword, the bullet-ridden car model demo, and even that video concerning Rachet & Clank.
- Streamed (basically) audio-only video from Resistance: Fall of Man.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Not Impressed (Dmitri) @ Apr 2nd 2006 3:27AM
Motorstorm is going to look terrible if the camera does turn out to be that far away from the vehicle itself. I think it should have a GT4-esque camera style.
Warhawk on the other hand, looks very nice indeed. But does not make me want to buy any next-gen system yet.
Leto @ Apr 2nd 2006 3:38AM
Lair looks freaking hot, and so does Racket & Hatchet
Not Impressed (Dmitri) @ Apr 2nd 2006 4:23AM
Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Oblivion and Counter-strike (source / CZ) is all the next-gen I need, thankyou. Our development in the graphics department is becoming a real turn off to me. It is as if how much something shines defines how real it looks.
There is a major difference between the graphics of today (or near-future), and complete realism. The idea of greater graphics was always to have more realism. But now it is just looking more fake and fake. In time, Mario 64 will look more real then anything the PS4 / Xbox720 will have to offer.
I just hope Nintendo doesn't hop into the whole graphics bullshit. Luckily, there won't be any worry for that anytime soon.
But then again, some good does come from this. It gives both parties (Sony / M$) an equal opportunity to spew all of the bullshit they can before the actual release. Such as all of these M$ comments saying how the 360 and PS3 will have an equal amount of power / graphics capability. This was first mentioned just after E3 when we all slept through M$'s conference and almost shit our pants to Sony's revelation of their new "Whats fake is real" campaign.
Oh, and in walks Nintendo from the little black room on the other side of the building. What's that Reggie? Kick ass and take names?
I would just like to thank Kutaragi is not vowing to take ass and kick names.
I would just like to take my hat off (I don't wear a hat) to Nintendo on their soon-to-be complete resurrection. And total dominance of the industry of "consoles". I think we can leave the PC market to... sigh... Blizzard. Yes, you made me say it. The same people who were "smart" enough to cancel Diablo 3 development TWICE.
Bender @ Apr 2nd 2006 5:09AM
I couldn't give a rat's ass if the waves are generated using some realistic physics algorithm, and i couldn't care less if the clouds are being procedurally (sp?) generated and rendered using some fancy-pants software.
Why?
Because they both look like any other cloud or sea i've seen over the last few years!
joseph @ Apr 2nd 2006 5:33AM
Dmitri are you insane? Getting Up is a horrible game. CS Source and CZ are the worst versions of Counterstrike. You obviously have no taste. Hopefully your post was an April fool's joke. I pray to God it was for your sake.
ill trooper @ Apr 2nd 2006 5:53AM
I don't know man, I can understand you saying the clouds _look_ like things you've seen before, but imagine that tech being applied to shrubs, or something else. The motorstorm surface effects? Looks pretty fluid and impressive to me - the dirt & mud effects look totally unprecedented: Drying and forming crevices that actually affect the ride and suspension's response. The skeptic in me asks "Let's see how long those crevices stay on the track, or do they fade away by the next lap?"
Could be this new generation (yes, 360 too) can bring us touches of detail like that - things that can keep us interested and immersed longer.
Now if someone would just remember to program in 'shooting out lights makes it dark!' (Not in GRAW, not in Half Life2, etc...) Or an online total-mahem GTA...
Save your pennies... Looking to be a good year for gamers!
gothsquirrel @ Apr 2nd 2006 6:17AM
I'm sorry but none of these demos look like games. The may be hi-def textures but motorstorm still looks bad and warhawk while it looks great also looks like the most boreing action/sim i have ever seen and i loved the first one. I realize it is early in development for both games but for them to make it out by the end of the year, and for them to be good games is a total streach as far as i can see.
SpoBo @ Apr 2nd 2006 6:31AM
wow this is impressive! I'm so thrilled that we actually got to see the GDC movies. And c'mon people ... you'll have to admit that it's impressive. The point of these demo's is to let developers see what is possible. And what I have seen here today makes me drool. Imagine a game where you can blow up every car in high detail (the new GTA anyone ?). Or have ultra-realistic landscapes to explore. Or carphysics like the ones in motorstorm that react to the environment.
I for one can't wait for these games ... and the next generation for that.
By the way .. these demo's are not representations of the actual games. But the technology they use. Got it ? Because I think a lot of people don't get this :s
don_sf @ Apr 2nd 2006 6:43AM
be careful, the number of pre owned 360s you see in shops will be alarming after the ps3 comes out.
so if you wanna buy a 360 after ps3 comes out, you can get it cheaper.
Looks Great.... @ Apr 2nd 2006 7:30AM
Looks great, but it isn't anything that the 360 can't do. This will be a close console race..
Lekko @ Apr 2nd 2006 7:52AM
The main differences you will see between the 360 and the PS3 is that one system will be able to actually pull off a special effect or calculation fully, while the other will fake it. The games on a whole will tend to look pretty close. (aside from AAA exclusives)
And Ratchet and Clank looks amazing so far. I just wonder how they made that demo while making I-8 at the same time. I thought they weren't doing anything until after I-8 was done. Although Factor 5 did a whole presentation on how you have to produce multiple games at once to drive costs down..
Motorstorm looks good for the demo they showed. All they were doing was showing off mud physics, which you can't really tell from the video, but how that works into a full race has yet to be seen. Any game would look retarded if all they showed was your character moving in circles.
Warhawk looks great, I just hope that it is a bit more varied, the terrain looks pretty bland (though it is over an ocean). I just hope that there's some topography in the game.
Heavenly sword has some impressive ragdoll/crowd physics in it that was neat to see. Reminds me of dynasty warriors. Looks really really fun to blow things up.
Well.. better wait until E3 to see these clearly.. C'mon Sony, just give us a direct-feed to tide us over until E3. Pleeeease? We've basically seen it so far.
Alexer @ Apr 2nd 2006 8:33AM
BOOOORRING.
Doesn't anyone notice that the more 'realistic' things get the shittier things are?
Look at GTA for example. Now imagine if you actually had to use keys to start cars. That would suck ass.
Or if when you got hit by others cars, you would get brain damage.
Or if you would get locked up for life or executed.
Not fun.
Just because the mud is actually muddy doesn't mean it's a good game. For fuck's sake, Gran Turismo might give thousands of people boners, but after a period of time it's boring as piss, and that doesn't even have damage models!
Anyway, I'm not a fanboy for any system, but I do however, seriously doubt the sanity of people thinking the PS3 will be a raging success.
battmite @ Apr 2nd 2006 8:43AM
Thank You #11 "IT LOOKS GREAT". I was wondering when someone would state the obvious. YEP, it sure looks like the 360 graphics,and not the photo realisic perendered crap we saw a E3.
Yet the ps3 fanboys cough *kizza kutaragi*cough go on a half page rant about how ps3 goin kick xbox's ass. And total ignore the fact that is starting to look like sony has duked us all again.
It's almost like mass delusion on the sony fanboy's mindset.IS EVERYBODY CRAZY!!! Why can't EGM's shoe or someone grow balls and call sony out on the BS. It's like sitting down for family Thanksgiving dinner and your uncle is wearing a dress and everybody is talking about how good the yams are!!
neale @ Apr 2nd 2006 8:48AM
kizaa; look into that magical crystal ball you seem to have, and apart from the ps3 being the greatest console ever, tell me what the controller looks like... whats that? you cant?
how can u claim your not "some crazed fanbitch" when youve just wrote an essay of bad 360 stories (a friend of a friend on un uncle in australia...) and bigging up a console which a)no-one actually knows that much about it b)this is the only real vids we've been shown c)we dont know what its capable of.
all you/we know are specs. stop hyping up something you have no clue about.
from next month up until november we'll know more, more deciding factors. because just now your comparing a console that is out there with some awsome games (GRAW, FNR3, PGR3(my choice)), an awsome controller with a box that we've seen pics of, printed specs on the net and these videos.
do we need(want) blu-ray? HDtvs arent big enough yet, especially here in the UK. ok, so the discs offer more space, but sony just want to screw the consumer over with movies that you cant do anything with them except whatch on a BD player of some sort (no doubt there own). no ipod videos, PVPs etc
you sir, are caught in sonys hype. or your a fanboy. id just say your misled
EdZ @ Apr 2nd 2006 8:57AM
Heh, the fanboyism from both sides here is hialrious. I'm always impressed at the ability to pull something out of thin air, and make a massive case for and against it.
Don't forget; these are tech dmos aimed at developers to show off the platform, not gameplay teasters designed to entice gamers. That's why it was called the Game DEVELOPERS conferance.
Mr. Clark @ Apr 2nd 2006 9:24AM
kizza kutaragi, I'm not exactly sure what kind of point your trying to make. You say that the PS3 has a more exciting line-up, but I'm going to have to ask you to clarify, exactly what line-up are you referring to? Their non-existent launch line-up? Or just random games that have no indication of a launch date?
Where exactly did you get the idea that you had to recreate your character every time you wished to head online in Fight Night 3? You create your character in the Career mode and go from there. The manuals come with games for a reason.
I find it odd that you're speaking about failing 360's and Microsoft's inability to properly manufacture enough consoles for the Australian launch. I have a lack of knowledge for that specific area of the world, but I suppose if what you say is true, we could all draw comparisons to Sony's launch of the PS2 in America.
While you may declare yourself to be an impartial party, you quite eagerly leap to the conclusion that Sony will automatically leap ahead to gain dominance of the home console market. You also extoll the virtues of the PlayStation 3 without having ever played it (or anyone aside from Phil Harrison). Those two items, plus the fact that you have the incredibly adolescent habit of abbreviating Microsoft's name as M$. If you're an impartial party, I'd hate to see what someone biased might say.
You nag at the Xbox 360's online play too. This I find amusing most of all. If there's at least one thing Microsoft managed to do right in their mergence with the home console market, it was implement online play. Its hard for me to imagine that Sony will have all the kinks worked out for the PNP (PSNP?) online stuff right away. It took Microsoft a year to get Xbox Live working right, and from the looks of it, Nintendo's going through their growing pains right now with the DS. Sony's not going to be able to leap headfirst into the online ring, going from the terribly lackluster PS2 online support, and suddenly have the best service available. Microsoft's going to have that title for awhile, until we can see what Nintendo's Wi-Fi Virtual Console and Sony's PNP are capable of, with our own eyes, and not through the mouths of PR guys. Everything else until then is just that, words, and if you're so readily enticed by speeches, then I've got a handful of magic beans in my pocket I'm sure you'll be interested in.
Last but not least, you make the proclamation that everyone around you except yourself has a 360 that's failed and/or died shortly after launch. That could certainly be true, as I'm sure everyone that visits this site is more than well-versed on the subject of the Xbox 360's hardware troubles. However, given your previous questionable comments, it sounds like more blustering.
In my close-knit group of friends that are dedicated gamers, only one of us has had a 360 die on us. That would be me.
As easy as it would be to start complimenting Microsoft on their speedy delivery and make it sound like my console breaking was the best thing to ever happen to me, I'm not. I'm unfortunately not a fanboy, I'm an impartial gamer...wait. Impartial is the wrong word, since that's what you proclaim yourself to be, and I certainly don't share your 'impartial' opinions, I suppose I'm Less-than Impartial.
Having your console just die isn't fun. Having to go through a three hour wait just to get a tech service guy on the phone wasn't fun either. Waiting two weeks for the console to return when the tech service guy tell me it would be four days wasn't terribly exciting either. To top off this list, having Microsoft fail to send your hard drive back certainly didn't make my day, and neither did the extra time needed to haggle with more tech service guys to get them to admit that they had originally asked me to send it in.
See that? Microsoft's not perfect, and I have my own personal story proving that point. Sony's not perfect either, and neither is Nintendo. To pretend otherwise is to turn your head aside and leap head-long into the open arms of ignorance.
So before you decide to start another rant, please remember that.
This was a news story about getting to watch the very pretty PS3 demo's, not the opportunity to stand up on your soapbox and scream to the masses that the sky above Microsoft Studios is falling.
AF @ Apr 2nd 2006 9:29AM
Definitely showing some promise, especially The Getaway and Ratchet and Clank.
But the bottom line of the fanboy fight is that PS3 is coming out fully a year after the 360. For it not to have any hardware edge is almost inconcievable. We'll probably have a better idea about the extent of the advantage by e3 and certainly by the fall.
The other big one is the online. Even though free online on PS2 was fun, it was a hassle. Unified login, friends lists, that's what we need. And wow, you get that free on PS3 while you pay $50 a year (or 60 euro) on xbox.
And yes... on PS3 you can play a Hi Def movie for that $2000 hdtv you just bought.
So why would an informed consumer buy a 360? Actually, outside of the initial launch period, people _arent_ buying 360's anymore.
Take a look at the US:
600,000 units were sold in the U.S. in 2005
http://news.com.com/600,000+Xbox+360+units+sold+in+U.S./2100-1043_3-6027217.html
250,000 units in US in January 2006
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2465&Itemid=2
and 160,000 units in US in February 2006
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2465&Itemid=2
So basically it's fizzling out and people are holding on to their money, waiting for something better.
The1 @ Apr 2nd 2006 9:51AM
These games are just on PAR. You expect HATERS of the X360 to think these games are just stunning.
don_sf @ Apr 2nd 2006 10:09AM
yo this aint all about online. yeah your right ps2 online was crap and xbox 180 was good. but dont forget that ps2 online had more users than 180 users. =
this prooves 2 things: 1. u dont need a good online service to be the most successful (erhem ps2). 2. people would rather go a crap free online service than one that needs money.
thats one reason i wont be buying the 360. when i use nintendo ds wifi for free i feel like im getting something for my money. im telling you right now, if you had to pay for nintendo wifi there would be far far les people playing. you paid £30 for a game, and what you need to pay another £40 a year just to play online? rip of
Looks Great.... @ Apr 2nd 2006 10:21AM
#18
The "fizzling out" of 360 sales is due to the shortage, 360 will likely have strong sales until the ps3 comes and steals the spot light.. then both systems will level ot and you will likely see a market share of 40% 360 and 60% PS3.
Also, Sony's online will likely be worst than Live for at least some time, as Sony works out the kinks. So giving an untested online service away for free makes since; you know, just to get it out there to the consumers and to make a name. I think if the free online dose takes off( which it most likely will because of all the cheap people out there,including me), Microsoft will add free online play to Silver accounts.
On the issue of the two systems power, I have seen or heard anything that would make me believe that the PS3 will have much if any power advantage of the 360...unless you take in Sony's comments.
I have nothing to say on BluRay...that is one thing which I can't think of a good counter except the cost issue; It will cost more to make and will have more expensive games and…ect.
How I see it:
Power
360=PS3
Features
360PS3(PS3 will be free, but live is an excellent and time test service)
Games
360=PS3(To maximize profit in the next generation, due to higher development cost, you will see more multi-platform games )
Fan @ Apr 2nd 2006 10:28AM
lol Whats with all the hating?
Instead of getting excited about a new console people are trying to rip on something they
A: Never tried
B: Isnt out yet
C: Have never seen with their own eyes
Its clear that these comments are not based on fact but they are based on feelings......... Its hard to belive that people are making up their minds about something before theyve enven seen it. Ridiculous!
Lets wait and see til e3. Then open your mouth ffs....
Moogle @ Apr 2nd 2006 11:17AM
Yeah, the flame war here is pretty wierd.
These videos give me a lot of hope for the PS3.
From everything I've heard, the 360 has not improved anything gameplay related since the last generation. I'm sure there's a lot of unused power there, but so far it's been a video card upgrade.
These PS3 videos struck me as a hint of something good because while a lot of the talk was about the graphics, a fair bit was "And here's how we're using the cells for something gameplay related". So we're going to see smarter enemies, better physics, more epic scale games. No, it won't be revolutionary, but as far as I can see, Sony's playstation division has been paying attention, and they're up to something (anything, please!) other than HD graphics. So if Nintendo's new system is revolutionary, and these videos are indicative of the heading that Sony's pushing its developers and third parties, the PS3 might well be truly evolutionary. Taking gameplay further.
Just so no one can call me a sony fanboy, I have never owned, and have rarely played a sony game system. I think I've played more Halo than every PS2 game combined. I'm only a Nintendo fanboy and I think they 'get it'. You can decide however you want about which causes the other.
(I still think MS doesn't get it, they just knew Bungie's new game had a LOT of anticipation. I was actually building a Halo fan site layout for someone when MS bought them and I trashed it :) )
To whoever mentioned PS2 had better online connectivity: I'm not disputing your point, just your math. 4x MS's user base * anything over 25% of MS's online connectivity is more than MS has, but the percentage of users is really a more important measure of success. So at the worst case, your math is right but sony's connectivity is four times worse. Maybe they had a higher connectivity rate, I don't know. The point you could still make is that they've done more, percentage of the population-wise, to advance online gameplay. Maybe.
Alexander @ Apr 2nd 2006 11:31AM
I have a feeling the Playstation 3 will be better than 360 because If you just think about it look at the PSP's os, it's really neat and background for wallpapers. now just imagine that for Playstation 3 in HD and playstaion online network and it will be free to plus linux os, Xbox 360 does not have it, 60 gb inclueded HDD and upgradable, Xbox 360 only plans on selling 20 gb, access to the World Wide web, Xbox 360 can only access Xbox live and way more realistc graphics, Xbox 360 is a bit too shiny, and Im not to sure but I think the Playstation 3 has built in wifi, Xbox 360 it cost's practically 100 bucks for a wifi adaper less than 10 inches, and the PSP can be used as a controller, Xbox still did not make a portable version with down graded graphics. Sony will Kill the Xbox 360 it was already sestined since the Xbox first came out. No external Blu-Ray crap it's built into the PS3,the Xbox 360 is going to have a external HD-DVD player. Sorry Microsoft you already got killed and the PS3 did'nt even come out yet.
neale @ Apr 2nd 2006 11:39AM
i read the start of that kizaa and the first paragraph bored me. all you did was attack me, and for what reason? being right?
if u want to know, my GT is RJD2two (look it up), im still on my first 360 from launch, no probs yet.
you clearly demonstrated how much of a fanboy you actually are. stop embarasing yourself
the fact is your arguing and defending something we all know nothing at all about. twice you did it, and i bet you do it again in reply to this.
neale @ Apr 2nd 2006 11:50AM
and kizza, how about this time providing some evidence and facts (no speculation or opinions). you stated last gen sales and.... loads of abuse. the reason for the abuse: you actually have nothing to say. thats why poeple go personal, because they have nothin to say
selfconshus @ Apr 2nd 2006 12:17PM
I agree with totally with #23. It's hilarious how people are actually speaking as if they've played the PS3 already. I'm really starting to get sick of the fanboyism. I mean, I consider my self more of a Sony fan, but I'm still a proud owner of a 360. You Xbox [flame] are gonna be missing out on a lot of great games if you continue to be one-track minded [flame]. Come on...am I the only one that feels like this? Sure seems like it.
striderhayasa @ Apr 2nd 2006 12:20PM
I can't be impressed with these videos. I need to see how Warhawk plays for one. I finished the first one so many years ago an while it was great then, the gameplay has to evolve with the visuals. I know it's been all said before.
gameplay
gameplay
gameplay
I don't care if the waves are generated and animated in real time, I don't care about the constantly changing clouds or "real" HD support. I'll be impressed when I can see the final rig with some final software
Action Hank @ Apr 2nd 2006 12:42PM
Yikes, the PS3 fanboys are out in full force on the strength of some blurry tech demos. Lair did look impressive, though, I must say.
What's the scale of your ship in Warkhawk, though, why are the clouds so close to the sea?
Also, what's the deal with that 'shooting up the car' demo? The bullet holes had disappeared from the car by the time the camera had made a full circle. Sure, the textures of the holes look nice and deep, but what good is that if they fade out faster than in many current gen games. Considering this demo was just to show the destruction of the car, you'd think they would have managed to create persistent holes.
And is that Ratchet video meant to be in real time?
None of those comments are meant to bash the PS3 - I'll likely have mine at launch and hopefully a region free copy of Winning Eleven shortly thereafter - just observations and questions on these tech demos, which were decent, but not certainly not mindblowing.
Darth Pixel @ Apr 2nd 2006 12:47PM
kizza kutaragi, send me an email.
Not Impressed (Dmitri) @ Apr 2nd 2006 1:07PM
Yea joseph. I obviously have horrible taste when I play Oblivion. And I play a FPS game that has thousands among thousands of people playing it every minute of the day. I also recently left WoW, and that says I have horrible taste? Hah!
And as far as getting up is concerned. I enjoy it. I am not "dissing" Sony or anyone else. I just think that the business that was long created ago to entertain, has turned into a sad group of penny-whoring franchises.
I am not exactly a Nintendo fan either. They have made some MAJOR mistakes in the past. The only difference is that Nintendo is trying to rejuvinate itself, what is Sony and M$ doing? All I see them doing is trying to get your money, but failing miserably at it.
EQ2 anyone? Exactly.
Jeremy Wright @ Apr 2nd 2006 1:13PM
I love my 360. But most of these videos were pretty cool. Warhawk looks great (once they put the gameplay in anywyas). Motosport isn't my kind of game, but the deformable tracks is a great little innovation. Lair looks fantastic! Ratchet & Clank looks absolutely amazing.
I have no hate for the PS3. It could well be way better than the 360. That's fine with me. If it is, I'll sell my 360 in 2 years and get a PS3. If it isn't, I'll stay with my 360. It's just too hard to say *right now* which will *actually* be better.
We can claim we believe it based on past performance (which is what most people are doing), but until we have both consoles in our hands (and 50-100 games released) it'll be practically impossible to gauge which is best.
And, hell, let's face it, even once we have consoles and games, it's highly unlikely that either console will be SO MUCH better than the other. Last gen, the Xbox had better graphics, better online, better hardware and the PS2 had more creative games (I had an Xbox and can freely admit this).
But it was still hard to say which was "better". I'm sure this gen'll be similar. But, I'm happy to wait, give Sony some time to get things right, and make a hopefully smart decision when the time comes :)
Wild Homes @ Apr 2nd 2006 1:35PM
I really want to believe in these videos, and if the PS3 launch features games of this calibur all around, I'll jump onboard, but I'm skeptical of this for one reason: has anyone else noticed that nothing else announced or displayed (save Guns of the Patriots) for the PS3 shows us ANYTHING like the quality of these focus titles? not even Crysis looks as good as these do, and don't even get me started on other things that HAVE been shown, like Airborne. it makes me wonder if Sony is kind of polishing up these videos just to make a point-- if the PS3 can do this stuff no problem, then why doesn't everything look like this? why would we have stills of stuff like Untold Legends 2 and Medal of Honor Airborne and Alan Wake? (PS, nothing in this video looks as interesting to me as does Huxley.) oh, and the Warhawk video is speeded-up too much-- it's really difficult to tell if it looks good at all. CONSPIRACY THEORY: these videos, at this point, might not be in-game code... they might created using the game engine, but they've been polished in post-production... ah E3, will you make fools of us all?
Boss @ Apr 2nd 2006 2:43PM
I have to agree with Dimitri on this one and I do not want to piss of the ps3 fans or sound biased towards the 360 but the Warhawk demo.....meh I could see Warhawk made on 360 with the same graphics as for Ratchet and Clank....nice I like how that one looks and that is more what I'm looking for in terms of graphics but if...half the ps3 games look like warhawk I will stick to my 360
Sino @ Apr 2nd 2006 2:54PM
People just complain too much. Show me some ps3 screenshots,oh they look mediocre, show me some ps3 videos, they are not impressive. All they do is complian, nothing that ps3 could do will impress them. let's ask sony to just put two costomized IBM PowerPC CPU and a customized ATI Graphics card in ps3, suddenly the world will make sense, then ps3=xbox360 will be ture.
Daush @ Apr 2nd 2006 2:54PM
Well. all this video can play in a 360, so nothing new....... ps3 will hav great graphics like the 360.
but wait.. almost the samething!!!!!! NOOOOOOO
PS3 ....TEKKEN, MEtal GEar Solid, Ace Combat, FInal Fantasy, Soul Calibur, GTA, ICO, SHadow of COlosus, Genji, Fucking Freacks Anime Games!!!!!!, Katamary!!! devil May Cry, Resident Evil!!!rPg GAMES!!! Fatal Frame!!!... and. no port. firist releases in playstation!!!
ah. halo? plis... i play fps in my PC...
MartinG. @ Apr 2nd 2006 3:48PM
The PS3 looks very powerful to me. I'm as excited about the PS3 as I was about the 360. I don't buy these consoles for the hardware really, I buy them for the eventual release of all the new games. The hardware isn't what makes the console sell well. It's the games that define a console. When I bought my PS2 years ago, I didn't know I'd be playing cool games like Katamari Damacy, Devil May Cry, Kingdom Hearts etc. I'm excited to see what new franchises the next-gen has in store and I'm excited to play new installments of existing franchises that I love.
Da'Cheez @ Apr 2nd 2006 4:10PM
"Also, Sony's online will likely be worst than Live for at least some time, as Sony works out the kinks."
This may not necessarily be an accurate opinion. Sony isnt building there own online network, but instead are contracting 2 VERY experienced companies to do it for them.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/allofps3/pool/show/
Look in the bottom right corner. Ign Entertainment speeks for itself, but for those of you who are unfamiliar w/ Qauzal (http://www.quazal.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=126&page=1) there software is part of the development tools that Xbox 360 developers us to make games for Xbox live. As you can guess this will give Sony's network a head start on how MS's initial Live launch proceeded.
Not Impressed (Dmitri) @ Apr 2nd 2006 5:13PM
All I have left to say is...
Take a look at the E3 video of Motorstorm.
Now look again at the video provided above, of Motorstorm.
THAT'S ALL, FOLKS!!!
Looks Great.... @ Apr 2nd 2006 5:16PM
"but wait.. almost the samething!!!!!! NOOOOOOO
PS3 ....TEKKEN, MEtal GEar Solid, Ace Combat, FInal Fantasy, Soul Calibur, GTA, ICO, SHadow of COlosus, Genji, Fucking Freacks Anime Games!!!!!!, Katamary!!! devil May Cry, Resident Evil!!!rPg GAMES!!! Fatal Frame!!!... and. no port. firist releases in playstation!!!"
Who cares about MGS, I lost interest after the second game. FF is coming to the 360(even if it is a crappy ps2 port) so we might see some good FF games on the 360 down the road. GTA is another case where it will likely be on both systems to get a bigger profit. Didn't the Katamary series end? Oh, and RE5 is coming to 360 too. Anime games are crap and there will plenty of RPG's on the 360...
Whopping Wombat @ Apr 2nd 2006 5:53PM
I'll admit sony had more games last gen, like Looks Great is implying though, don't assume thats the case this gen....cough cough GEARS OF WAR cough cough...and its not just halo 3...its HALO FRICKING 3!!! Killzone 2 will be nothing by comparison, I guarantee it. PGR 3 is awesome...and FORZA 2 will be even better. tekken sucks (but soul calibur is awesome)...but don't say 360 fighters suck...DOA 4 is great, strewet fighter 2 will be a live arcade game and who knows...maybe RARE is making a Killer Instinct title (which would school all other fighters)...Not to mention any tom clancy game has always been best on microsoft's platforms (and its a big collection)...as for the RPGs, it's not my cup of tea, so I can't comment about final fantasy. But i can say that the creator of the final fantasy is making 3 rpgs for the 360 (two of them 360 exclusives, including blue dragon which looks awesome)...then capcom is making lost planet and of course 360 also gets RE5....So basically. don't question the 360's library of great titles out and yet to come...This is not the same thing as last gen..And if its any good...yes Halo3 will be the biggest title for the 360...but there's a reason for that..PEOPLE LIKE HALO!!!
PS: MGS4 is the one game for the PS3 id like to see make its way onto 360, as long as its mgs1/mgs3 good, not mgs2 terrible.
Justin @ Apr 2nd 2006 6:00PM
"And wow, you get that free on PS3 while you pay $50 a year"
Really? Dude, I didn't know the PS3 was out and that the Network Platform was already ready for use! Heck, where did you get yours? I couldn't find a PS3 in any stores. Nor any information on their site about the full launch features and pricing of the Network Platform. Point is, your statement is pretty much useless until Sony announces the actual offerings of their NP a few months from now. Whatever side you land on in this crazy debate, you can't argue with the fact that Sony often says a bunch of things that never pan out.
Anyway. These demos basically show a fenced-garden version of graphics and gameplay. That is, they are very highly controllable demonstrations of the technology. They spent time making these small demos look good (although Motorstorm made me laugh - because good mud does not a game make). Chances are these demos are devoid of advanced AI, full physics engines, and so forth, and that takes up a good amount of a console's horsepower.
Therefore, these are in no way representative of final games! And that's not meant to be a positive OR negative statement. These are tech demos and nothing more. Both Sony and Microsoft (and even Nintendo) do this, it's the nature of the industry.
The difference is, though no fault of Sony's, is that Microsoft's box is at least delivering on some of their tech demos. Ghost Recon is a great example - the early demos looked great, and now the game looks great.
THAT being said - based on these TECH DEMOS, Warhawk, Lair and Ratchet look pretty fantastic, and I can only hope that the final games live up to these demos.
TRW @ Apr 2nd 2006 6:06PM
Well, as an XBox1 owner who's been pretty underimpressed with the first 5 months of 360 games, I'll give the PS3 the benefit of the doubt, and at least see what the games are like.
If it's 'meh' like the 360, then I guess I'll decide which way to go at that point.
Siraris @ Apr 2nd 2006 6:54PM
I don't think anyone can make judgements on any of these demos as there is a ton of work left to be done. Motorstorm, for example, could look very much like the E3 demo. They were just showing off the mud and rivets, and at this point in development, that might have been the easiest way to show off what they wanted to. It doesn't reveal a thing about how the final game will look. If you watch the video, the camera zooms in to show the buggy much clearer, very closely to the detail level that you saw in the E3 proof of concept.
Has anyone seen an early demo for God of War? It looks like a freshman in college kids final project for one of his classes, yet the final game looks gorgeous.
I'll reserve judgement for when we see the actual gameplay. The guy who was showing the video said that this was a small glimpse into the final game. They could change the camera angle, add more particle effects (tons of mud, dust blowing, sun glimmering off the window), and you have a completely different looking game.
I think Warhawk looks great, and I'm very excited to see more of R&C.
Arch @ Apr 2nd 2006 7:46PM
i find it funny to watch the uninformed post.
"well the PS3 is coming a year later so it will DEFINATELY be supperrior in EVERY way (i like the way they stress "EVERY") to the 360. all i can say is WRONG!
the PS3 is coming a year later due to bluray and thats it. the hardware was completed around the same time as the 360. and i find it funny that the GPU in the kits these games are running on are stronger than what the PS3 in your home is getting. all the more excuse to say that these are ingame. but anyways, warhawk, and motorstorm are FAR from impressive. they are impressive to the fanboys because they like comparing an open box in the sky with dragons pushing as many polys as possible because there is nothing else to push them on, compared to FPS games or adventure games on the 360. how about the fanboys wait until panzer dragoon orta 2 comes out. or atleast SOMETHING resembling a dragon game.
harvsorrow @ Apr 2nd 2006 9:35PM
Jebus, some guys just have their panties on waaay too tight.
After seeing these demos, one thought comes to mind (which has been stated many times before): how the hell will graphics better than RE4, Colossus, GoW, etc really add to gameplay? Like I really give a crap if I can see the nosehairs on the model? Once it gets to a certain point, it makes NO difference. Obviously, developers can use increased resources to innovate different aspects of gameplay, but purely speaking about graphics, I just don't care anymore. It may be prettier, but that's not why I'm gonna put the dollars on the counter. Again, this is the reiteration of many, but I felt like putting it out there.
akira @ Apr 2nd 2006 10:31PM
All systems are the best. It's purely a matter of opinion. CPU, GPU, PU, it doesn't matter. All that matters at the end of the day is if they have the game you want to play at the price you are willing to play it for. That's it. A supercomputer made by IBM will do a quadrillion calculations per second and at the end of the day, so what. Even if ms only has halo, if you love halo more than your momma, ms will be the best; if you love ff (final fantasy) 9000, ps3 will be what you will slave for; and if you get all giddy for mario, then nintendo is the best. That's it. Software and not hardware.
bv @ Apr 2nd 2006 10:49PM
As a Sony PS3 fanboy myself, i was pretty underwhelmed by those demos. Motorstorm looked like any other game you've seen on the market while warhawk looked like the Rogue Squardron games that factor 5 puts out. Pretty dissapointing, but since I recently scored an xbox 360 at costco the other day, I have nothing to worry about. Next gen really holds up on the 360 and the current games look 10x better than any of those demos. Looks like Ps3 still has a way to go.
mike @ Apr 3rd 2006 12:11AM
then when the ps3 launches (2020) the jap guys will say "we made a few changes" and the grapgics will look like xbox graphics and there game releases will be helo kitty and some shit like that
Wild Homes @ Apr 3rd 2006 1:07AM
after looking at the video of the car again, I agree: why, in a controlled test video, did they not manage to make the bullet holes stay? the 360 is doing this too: not really next-gen graphics a lot of the time, just new ways to make last-gen graphics look a little better. it's deceptive until you get close to the textures. Oblivion does this all of the time. just don't get too close. but still, Oblivion rules.
shaka @ Apr 3rd 2006 1:45AM
''I'm excited to see what new franchises the next-gen has in store and I'm excited to play new installments of existing franchises that I love.''
i totally 2nd that.