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Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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Those do look pretty good but it's hard to tell if they're real or just well done mockups.

Anybody who thought the graphics on the Revolution would suck are basically saying that graphics on the Xbox sucks (if the specs we all saw for the Revolution were true). I don't know about you but there are some pretty damn good looking games out for the original Xbox.

I expect the Revo to have graphics above and beyond what the Xbox could do and close to what the 360 can do when it's not in HD which is still pretty damn good if you ask me. (Condemed looks GREAT on my non-hd tv).

Plus specs don't mean as much as a lot of people think.

There is a LOT more to this than just numbers. Everything about the CPU could be tweaked and geared towards games making it MUCH faster than a similarly clocked intel chip.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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Looks like someone found a way to sell Time Crisis again.

Revolution == everything old is new again

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:23PM pr0cs said

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for concept screenshots they give a good idea how things may work with the RevMote but they're definately not in-game screenshots. Not really much news here.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:24PM (Unverified) said

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it says "Notice how the angle of the in-game gun reflects the angle of which you hold the controller"

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:24PM (Unverified) said

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That is nice.
Much better than that shooter (the non fps) they were saying was for the revolution. That thing looked like it was from a couple of generations ago.
This looks next gen.
Can't wait.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:30PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:31PM Seroth said

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If those are really Revolution screenshots, they look really pretty.

HOWEVER, me being an animation whore, I must see the game in motion to make any real judgment. Take Oblivion for example. Gorgeous according to screenshots, but when you see how crappy the animation is, it really looks last-gen.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:32PM (Unverified) said

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Darth: Ah. It does kind of look like Time Crisis. I was thinking this was an FPS. That would be a lot more impressive.

Altho Time Crisis wasn't exactly the first of it's kind, and those kind of games can still be fun. I haven't played a fun new one in a long time.

One thing I don't understand is why you say this:

"Revolution == everything old is new again"

So if this were an FPS it wouldn't be beating a dead horse with a stick? Get real. What genre of game wouldn't be a rehash? Side Scroller? Shoot 'em up like time crisis (not sure the genre name)? FPS? Uhh yeah.

What you're saying about the Revolution is probably less true for the Revolution and Nintendo than it is for any other gaming company out there. So I'm not quite sure why you said it.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:34PM DerickDBrown said

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Anyone Notice the Revolution Controller in those pics has a Different look to it? The older controlle rhad a wider IR port on the front....New controller design?

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:39PM (Unverified) said

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OK ok I'm feelin that. Now if that's how we gonna get down on the Revolution then sign me up. That looks hot!!! Gettin' ready for that right there!!!!!

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:41PM (Unverified) said

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THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN..... DUN DUN DUN!!!!!!!!

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:42PM madgamer7 said

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It IS an FPS from what I can tell.. See the person holding the nunchuck? You use it to move and you basically use the remote as your weapon. The front page of the magazine shows a sword too (not in a screenshot) so I am guessing it will have some swordplay as well as gunplay.

Its NOT Time Crisis

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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NOT REALLY ON A REVOLUTION!

There is no way it is on a revolution because NO COMPANIES HAVE DEV KITS YET. Trust me I work on games and there are no Revolution dev kits yet so this can't actually be on a revolution. Sure it's mocked up as if it were, but you never know until you actually put it on one, so the game may look a lot different.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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"You will say: WOW!"

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:45PM (Unverified) said

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Holy F***ing Mother of Christ. Godammit those graphics are good. I think I'm have a nerdgasm (nerd orgasm) this looks so amazing. Finally, real Revolution stuff. You know that in one month, E3 will be up and if they have a game a month before, you know Nintendo will follow and show stuff, plus all the other third party devs and pubs. Ubisoft is amazing.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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to #56

You clearly haven't played Oblivion, or palyed it on a terrible computer instead of the 360, the game looks amazing, both in stationary and animation facets. Trust me it looks amazing, especially in 1080i but I hope the revolution can pull graphics like these or more since i would like to get one too.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:47PM (Unverified) said

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Red Steel could be huge for Nintendo.

If I were Namco, I'll wisen up and come out with an exclusive Time Crisis for the Rev.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:49PM SAgreatn said

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There are no dev kits out for Revolution, you say, Taylor?

This couldn't be running on Revolution, you say, Taylor?

Oh, so when IGN reported the specs on dev kits they were lying. And when Nintendo said they had several dev kits out they were lying. Or when Joystiq posted about how cheap Rev dev kits were they were lying. Or when GameInformer says in the article they went hands on with this game they were lying.

So everyone is a liar except for you.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:51PM (Unverified) said

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Oh my god , I'm so excited. To be honest I new game would this good and make me say wow. Cause even I read the specs the rev and I didn't understand a damn thing I was reading. Reading it I couldn't help to think what the fuck is this. So I just said fuck it I just to see games and I couldn't be happier =D

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:51PM (Unverified) said

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I have a projector, will this controller work if I point to the screen? My first thought is no because like the old Duck Hunt game it uses infrared and you need a CRT TV. PLEASE SOMEONE tell me otherwise!! Because i'm totally sold on the Revolution now!

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:52PM (Unverified) said

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Brandon, he means the animation is crap. I have seen it in hi-def, myself, and am an animation student: the animation is unnatural-looking.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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One things for sure. STOP COMPARING Revolution with Xbox, there clock speeds are similar, (Xbox 733MHz, to Revs 729MHz) but that's where the similarities end their CPUs are completely different.

The Revolutions Broadway chip is a powerpc cpu, that utilizes a RISC instruction set, far more powerful than the original Xbox's intel equivalent CISC based CPU.

Picture the Rev's 729MHz RISC ~ is like having a 1.8GHz Pentium under the hood. That might not sound like much, but since the Revolution's a game console and not a computer 100% of its CPU's priority will be dedicated to the game.

Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are also using PowerPC based RISC cpus so they are even more powerful than the Revolution. Also the games made for these two consoles (X360, PS3) probably won't never max out the system since the CPU built for it are fast way beyond what's needed.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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#66 Brandon. Those trapped by their Oblivion love rarely see it (reminds me of my friends with their N64), but it's not got the most stellar framerate in the world, or on the 360 even.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:54PM SAgreatn said

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J, I think there are "sensors" you place on either side of your TV, and it has nothing to do with beams reflecting off the screen or anything.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:55PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Apr 7th 2006 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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#57, let me explain:

The Revolution remote may be a very good concept to bring a new audience to Nintendo.

Yet, I don't play games to justify the creation of a new controller. I play games to have fun.

If Nintendo's console wraps every old game concept around their new controller, it's not going to cut it for me.

I played and I liked Time Crisis. I don't think playing it again (and again, and again), even with a fancy remote, is going to be fun for very long.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:00PM (Unverified) said

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Often ignored is using a console to it's full potential. The PS2's weakness really shows in games such as God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, and Resident Evil 4 that push the system's limits. Sure, the games look decent/great, but took way more effort than they would have on the Gamecube or Xbox (which would have produced better results). Of course, RE4 looks and plays better for the GC.

Because of the PS2, not many developers gave budget or time towards the Xbox which saw very few games pushing the console to its limits (although it didn't take serious effort to make games look and play better on the Xbox versions since the PS2 was so bad).

Since the Rev will be about in line with the original XBox's specs, there is still plenty that can be squeezed out of the available power.

On a side note, I think that simply going to an Xbox from PS2 could be considered "Next Gen" to Sony-advocates since the Xbox supports HD, is more than twice as powerful as the PS2, has good online multiplayer support, etc. Play Xbox and PS2 versions of multiplatform games side by side to see what I mean.

As easy as some find it to scoff at Nintendo's efforts, they are going far to provide a lot for a low price. I appreciate it, and look forward to the Revolution. The Xbox's graphics were already astounding, so if they can use that, with a fun new control scheme, then the Revolution should hold to its name.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:00PM (Unverified) said

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>>> LOOK at the end of the Rev controller, it is different. It has a different end than the version with infra-red-esque thing. It not looks like a circular thingy.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:01PM (Unverified) said

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Paul,
I hope you're right. I just never heard anything about the sensors. The bad thing with a projector is the bright light. My PS2 USB camera games won't work right because the camera is picking not only the roomlight, but also the projector light. I hope these potential "sensors" will work better. I'd love to play this game on my 92" screen....

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:03PM (Unverified) said

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Darth Pixel, you're assuming it's a gimmick, and not a genuinely better control scheme for FPS/other games.

As it stands, none of us know, but if it is what it promises, it offers more than just a "novel" way of controlling the classic games, it offers a better or more fun one. It just won't have the ever-increasing graphics as much as the other consoles.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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part of me is incredibly excited for the revolution, and the other part wonders how long it will take to give myself a repetitive stress injury or carpal tunnel syndrome from wagging my wrist around constantly

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:07PM Shogan said

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****I have a projector, will this controller work if I point to the screen? My first thought is no because like the old Duck Hunt game it uses infrared and you need a CRT TV. PLEASE SOMEONE tell me otherwise!! Because i'm totally sold on the Revolution now!****

Yes it will work. Instead of putting the sensor in front of the TV, you'd put it where the projection is.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:10PM (Unverified) said

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SuicideNinja. Stop comparing it to the Xbox, it's a waste of time.

There is no way a generation gap between PS2 and Xbox (graphically). Just difficulties by most companies to utilise it fully. Look at MGS2/3, still the best looking PS2 games and both can rival anything on the Xbox without HD resolutions or progressive scan.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:18PM (Unverified) said

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Err.. Darth Pixel, the controller shell was made for people like you.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:22PM (Unverified) said

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Wow! Im really impressed, if what joystiq says is true then, these are actual screenshots and they doesnt look a lot diferent from those we use to see from 360. im even more excited now ;)

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:28PM (Unverified) said

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Gamecube games looked just fine, IMO. Yeah, games on the XBOX360 can have an incredible level of detail, which does add to the realism, and therefor fun of many genres. The Rev can't compete graphically, so it's gonna compete on a different level- immersion. The revmote won't paint in broad strokes, but little movement. I'm hoping Madden will use this feature to throw overhand and sidearm...and they could use follow through to dictate power. Also, running with the ball would be fantastic if you could use the numchuck to control, and the revmote to juke left and right, to jump and dive. A little twist left or right could spin. Intuitive controls. Please.....

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:34PM MosquitoControl said

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Moving crosshairs = light gun game. Not FPS. =/

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 6:39PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think doctoring the shots really is anything to worry about. Screenshots wouldn't look as good in that resolution, but when the game is in motion the graphics look a lot better.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:03PM (Unverified) said

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"it is a first-person shooter that utilizes the RevMote"

man u haters need to stop calling it Time Crisis.
It says plain as day its a fps.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:05PM (Unverified) said

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Looks like a really good current gen game. Next gen this is not.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:12PM (Unverified) said

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If those are actually INGAME rev screens... i will throw my computer, playstation, and every other game device i have... That said, i'm that confident they aren't real. Those particle effects look just as advanced if not more outrageous than FEARS... and i play fear on my AMD 4800+, 3gb's of RAM, 16mb cache 7200 hard drive, and and X1800, and it still stutters. Those screens look way too smooth, absolutely no jaggies, all the xplosions look perfect. They can't be actual gameplay, or at least, running on a rev. Unless the rev specs are different... like as good as my computer.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:15PM (Unverified) said

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"63. NOT REALLY ON A REVOLUTION!

There is no way it is on a revolution because NO COMPANIES HAVE DEV KITS YET. Trust me I work on games and there are no Revolution dev kits yet so this can't actually be on a revolution. Sure it's mocked up as if it were, but you never know until you actually put it on one, so the game may look a lot different."

Really, how stupid are you? Over a thousand dev kits have been sent, although they are not the final version. IGN, Gamespot, and Gamespy has all confirmed this.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:17PM (Unverified) said

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Brock, dont compare pc specs to console specs. tehy are so completly diffrent, especially because consoles dont have OS's and other programs to worry about. and having 3 GB of ram does nothing since you are really only using less then half that.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:25PM NavParker said

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The graphics shouldn't be surprising. Double the horsepower of RE4, Beyond Good & Evil, or Metroid Prime and you've got some amazing visuals.

It's companies that depend on crappy Renderware that keep games looking like they were stuck in 2002.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:38PM (Unverified) said

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"93. If those are actually INGAME rev screens... i will throw my computer, playstation, and every other game device i have... That said, i'm that confident they aren't real. Those particle effects look just as advanced if not more outrageous than FEARS... and i play fear on my AMD 4800+, 3gb's of RAM, 16mb cache 7200 hard drive, and and X1800, and it still stutters. Those screens look way too smooth, absolutely no jaggies, all the xplosions look perfect. They can't be actual gameplay, or at least, running on a rev. Unless the rev specs are different... like as good as my computer."

Computer specs and console specs aren't comparable. Consoles generally aren't running so many processes in the background and their hardware is specialized to doing exactly one thing. For example, compare XBOX/PS2/GCN specs with the specs needed to run comparable-looking games on a PC.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 7:43PM (Unverified) said

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Brock, for someone who owns a computer, you sure seem to know absolutely nothing about them. Look at a 2 ghz AMD compared to a 3 ghz Intel. The performance difference is nil since the AMD processors more efficiently handle code, memory, etc. The same goes for game systems. It all depends on how the processors are designed to handle code. Another thing no one has considered regarding the revs graphics, is what the GPU is capable of. Just because the CPU isn't the fastest doesn't mean that the GPU isn't capable of displaying effects on par with 3.0 shaders. Shaders are where the real cool effects we see in current games like FEAR, Far Cry, etc. come from. Those specs on the system really don't tell much of anything, other than it won't be fast enough to do HD graphics, which I figure about 5% of PS3 owners will end up actually taking advantage of at launch anyway. Beyond that, we need to wait and see what the GPU is capable of, effects wise. Oh, and your 16mb cache HD has nothing to do with how many FPS FEAR runs, so I see no reason for you to have even mentioned it.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 8:10PM (Unverified) said

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"If Nintendo's console wraps every old game concept around their new controller, it's not going to cut it for me."

Um, thought it was common knowledge that Nintendo is the one company that tries to innovate more than any other. Even if they do what you’re suggesting then it still would be vastly better simply because of the ease of control. There is only a couple of FPS that I can play on a console now simply because the ease of control isn't there. This takes care of that problem and then some. I might actually get into playing FPS now, and I would imagine everyone that thinks a keyboard and mouse is the only way to play a FPS might feel good about it too.

The screens look nice and as next-gen as some of the other games out there. While you'll always have people that will moan and wail, most of them couldn't spot what console something would be on in a blind challenge. If shots of this came out and they said that it would be on the 360 or PS3 fanboys would gush over how great they looked and how beautiful the particle effects are.

Love is blind. Fanboy love, doubly so.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 8:20PM mezzaninex said

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From what I got, the game takes place in Japan, the character you play as is named Sato, you are armed with a katana and various firearms, and you are dealing with the Yakuza.

And that there are all sorts of fun ways to use the revmote.

Posted: Apr 7th 2006 8:57PM CubeGuy said

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@99
Couldn't have said it better.

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