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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:39AM (Unverified) said

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"Our goal in posting this advertisement was not to suggest one position or the other..."

Man I hope that was unintentional.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:52AM Lonin said

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I can't believe this is that big of a deal. In no way does it portray rape or "violence against women" as used in the same sense. The only reason this is being brought up is because of the clothing the woman is wearing. If she had a shirt and jeans on, I'm sure there would be much less debate. Sorry, but clothes have no bearing on rape.

The reason for the woman being scantily clad is obvious. They had thought up the tag "beautifully executed" that goes along with their other ads in the same vein. They then created an image that goes along with those two words, a beautiful woman that was executed, it's as simple as that.

Some of the comments sound like our favorite Mr. Thompson himself, I thought the game community was better than that.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:56AM (Unverified) said

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XD, good sir, XD.

also, i think kate might be right about the idea that this ad sexualizes this woman and associates that idea with violence against women, but the ad series as a whole sort of fetishizes murder and advocates violence against humanity, which can't be any more acceptable. also, the idea that what makes a gender attractive might be a double standard is sort of a silly idea. i find woman attractive instinctually because she can have my children. that's what i want her for, instinctually, and that's what she might want, instinctually. and a woman would find a man attractive, instinctually, because he could grant her children and protect her for those 9 months where she is less able to protect herself. sexuality and sexes are the once place where men and women differ by DEFINITION. sex is a definate consideration in the matter of sex. and sex when considering sex.
and she is too well clothed to have been raped. the jury is still out on necrophelia. paraphelia is definately the overall message.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 2:17AM (Unverified) said

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"the controversial Hitman advertisement that featured a naked woman"

She's naked? Maybe I'll take up my roommate's suggestion and get my eyes checked, because I'm missing out on something.

Since there are some pretty busty females in the game, I'd just tack it on as another publisher relying on the "sex sells" mantra. As previous, controversial, game ads have shown, racy ads never saves a bad game. Publishers will never learn, but giving bad publicity is good publicity as far as publishers are concerned. You're just feeding the controversial controversy.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 2:28AM (Unverified) said

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Kinda looks like a hot chick that was shot in the head to me...sorry to dumb it down so far, but essentially that's what it is. So make all the intellectual arguments you want about the underlying social ramifications of this ad....its a dead chick. Which would make sense in a game were you play a murdering Hitman..
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Definition: Hitman
1 entry found for hitman.
hitman
n : a professional killer who uses a gun
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Umm...Tell me again why this ad is so blasphemous when reminded of what it is that a Hitman does?
Professional killer...meaning exceedingly good at killing. Now, if you look at her head you will see a bullet wound, which no doubt got their with a precise and accurate shot, from the gun of a professional killer, a HITMAN..Look at the ad, then look at the definition...make sense yet?
After reading through all of the posts I can't believe were some people went with their respective affronted feelings. I swear when "smart" people get offended by things like this they, in a way, actually become stupid by not being able, nor do they see the merit in, simplifying---i.e. the add shows us a dead woman, murdered by a hitman...with a clever pitch "Beautifully (the woman or his action) Executed (what a Hitman does)." Thus, to be insulted by the ad is to be insulted by the game itself.

Now if this was one of those "twisted humor" ads for say...the next Pokemon adventure, then this ad would be completely out of context and consequently, it would be out of line.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 2:36AM guises said

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Wish I hadn't missed this the first time. I am amazed by how much people can read in to things like this. That there is classic noir right down to the wierd old timey lingerie. Go watch Chinatown. Sex != rape.

And "submissive position"? The hell? She's dead! She's lying down 'cause she's dead.

... I feel like a troll for writing something so dismissive, but this is absurd. The game is called Hitman - it has to involve dead people. Some of those are going to be women.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 2:44AM (Unverified) said

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Being a mark in the game, she obviously deserved what she got for one reason or another.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:17AM (Unverified) said

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Maybe it's because I'm jaded to violence, but all I see is a woman with a bullet in her head. I wasn't even paying attention to what she was wearing.

It's just an advertisement and when I see them, my mind automatically puts up a block to not pay attention to them. If I see a page in a magazine without much text in it I either turn the page or look on the next, it's a reflex now. I might put up some images but I don't really see what's going on, I don't even look at whoever sponsored the ad.

However, I have had to study advertisements for certain college courses and I don't see how this is any worse than other ones. Beer ads promising fun times and multiple women to make sex with, cigarette ads that remind you of fellacio, a flippin' camel with a flippin' penis for nose. This ad doesn't even compare....
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:21AM (Unverified) said

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Reminds me of sociology class
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:51AM (Unverified) said

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The problem with the ad is that we are talking about it. The game sucks anyway (the whole theme is very much NOT beautiful..) so we shouldn't promote it in any way ... GTA always has been a good game but Hitman was boring from the very beginning on.

I say CHEAP!
The photograph IMHO isnt very aesthetic as well -more than bad make up...very much NOT dead ... and NOT sexy ... her facial features seem very masculin to me as well...
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:55AM (Unverified) said

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The Hitman designers are provocative.
This is the way they build their games, this is the way they market it and of course this is the way their commercials are done as well.

Do not forget they're Danes, folks.
Just look at the news and you will see what I mean.

I am not schoked by this ad, on the contrary I think it sticks exactly to what Hitman is about :
You must execute the contract in the most beautiful way possible.
One is always very proud when he can get a Silent Assassin ranking on Hitman 2 or 3.
This is how I perceive the ad and I like it even more because it can be seen from so many angles.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 7:59AM Bedpanjohn said

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is it wrong this turns me on? jk

man people are way to uptight. stop bitching about every fucking ad, movie, tv show that comes out because all that does is create free advertisment. if this didn't piss people off i would have never seen it, now i have to go download the game on bit torret...
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 8:01AM mackswift said

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But you want to know what? For all intents and purposes, the ad worked. Joystiq setup the blog posting, readers commented on it, it attracted the attentiuon of MSNBC, and here readers are commenting on it again.

Marketing dollars well spent!

Still, beauty and indencency is in the eye of the beholder. I find nothing wrong with this picture, I see it for what it is; an advertisement for the game Hitman.

I find it amazing the amount of 'shock' that is attached to anything related to video games nowadays. Hell, to any type of media for that matter. Look at the controversy of a fictional work such as the Divinci Code. You're always going to upset some group of people to some degree.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 8:09AM (Unverified) said

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I like it... she is hot.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 8:12AM benjaminhc said

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To suggest that this advertisement implies rape is neglecting the true message; as some readers have already pointed out. If you think about the purpose of the game, it is to assasinate people, not to rape them. In that thread of thought, you should instantly realise that she has been killed and killed alone. The fact that Hitman was assigned to kill a womam is perfectly normal, and her attire is irrelevant. As was mentioned before, there seems to be a double standard regarding gender... but that isnt even the whole of the issue.

The marketing tag also explains their choice of picture. Arguments aside it is a pretty beautiful picture of a women, who has been executed. That juxtiposition is powerful, and In my opinion a well designed add on its own. The sexual undertones, of course, were not accidental, but I dont think they were the purpose.

I don't believe this advocates violence towards women anymore than the other ads do so towards men. I think that in an attempt to avoid sexism, we have become over protective of women, which in its own regard is a form of sexism. When compared to many other adds, this is hardly "scantily clad" and her position, although symbolic of submissivism, is not as sexually charged as you are making it out to be.

All those things being said, I think there are other ads, and more specifically games (as they likely have a greater affect on society than advertisements) that should be criticised like this. I enjoy reading the opinions of others, even if I entirely disagree, and I enjoy adding my two cents. It is a welcomed change from the flame baiting of other websites, and circular arguments.

In a final bit of a summary on the ad though; I think it fits their campaign perfectly, and is nothing new or shocking. Killing a women amongst the men you kill should occur, it is realistic in the least. The fact that she is wearing suggestive clothing is nothing new, almost every game containing a female is a "criminal" to that crime. Combine those two facts, and it becomes clear that you will kill scantily clad women in the game. It isnt a surprise, and the advertisement shouldnt be either.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 8:46AM (Unverified) said

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Ah, that's Joystiq. Intelligence at its peak, let me tell you.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 9:23AM Brinstar said

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What I'm seeing here are two camps:

1) The people who aren't bothered to look beyond the surface presentation of an advertisement

2) People who look beyond the surface presentation for the themes, meanings, and messages that are implied by the ad.

The first camp say that the second are "taking things too seriously". The second camp say that the first are being dismissive of the wider ramifications and social context of such an advertisement.

This argument between the two camps comes up every single fucking time that people want to debate about games in a more meaningful way than how good a game is, or whether the graphics suck or not. I'm sick of people saying, "You're taking it too seriously". Look, if games didn't matter, then we wouldn't see fit to discuss them in a serious way. If you people, who love games so much, want games to be taken as seriously as literature and film, then it would behoove people to step up and debate, rather than dismiss.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 9:26AM Brinstar said

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I agree with Kate's commentary up there in the post, BTW.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 10:07AM (Unverified) said

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I acctually never noticed the rape skew until it was pointed out here. It seems to me that this ad was never meant to even hint at that. It was just supposed to be a beautiful corpse... That being said unless raising this type of conterversy was the target some ad exec fucked up pretty badly.
While the ad is bad insofar as killing is bad, it seems that trying to draw sweeping statements about our society based on this ad is more than just a little extreme. Unless we are speaking to some one who made the decsion to approve this ad we can't know the real motivations behind this ad. The response to the ad probably says more about our society than the ad ever could.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 10:14AM (Unverified) said

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i don't care about the "deeper meanings" or possible "implied subtexts" of the advertisement.. mostly because i think the people who are finding those are just LOOKING for something to find.

while i find the ad grotesque on more than one level, all it is is a woman who has been killed by a hitman. nothing more.

if you'll look at the ad's heading, which reads "beautifully executed", i don't think it's confusing at all. it's using the expression as a double meaning, referring to the quality of the game (i suppose) and referring the picture.

of course they're going to put her in lingerie and lay her out on satin sheets. they're trying to portray beauty, so that it fits the ad correctly.

those of you who are going so far as to draw "rape" or "necrophilia" from it, or even that the picture would be a good ad because it is sexually appealing (NOT) are seriously looking beyond where the intentions of the ad lie.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 10:19AM abhinav said

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While there is somthing moraly wrong about this ad, it did a good job. I honestly did notice at first because she was half naked but then i noticed the bullet in the head. Does the ad cross the line? Yeah kinda, i mean she didnt have to be dressed like that but i understand why they did it and in the time we live in today it's pretty within the lines. Just look at thoes "tag" body ads, thoes try and promise 13 year old boys that they are going to have sex. It's todays market that sucks, well that's my 2 cents.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 10:20AM (Unverified) said

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While I wouldn't have put it so forcefully, I agree with the sentiment behind Brinstar's post (and, by extension, Kate's comments in the original post).

One thing the people who dismiss the idea of suggested rape in this ad should keep in mind is that you cannot assume the people seeing this ad are at all familiar with the game and its contents. Not everyone will be looking at this ad in full context, and thus some won't know that the game itself has no sexual content.

Finally, all the actual discussion of the game itself have been around how worthless it is. Yeah, I bet that's exactly the kind of talk Eidos wanted to promote.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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I bit my lip for quite a while on this one but with it surging back up I have to chime in. This ad in NO WAY implies rape. I in no way want to offend anyone that has been raped or belittle the act. If you look at the picture there are clear signs that show it was not a rape. Have ny of you ever met a marketing person. These ads take more time to get approved and sent to a publisher than they do being thought up. More than likely this was an idea some on thought up on the spur of the moment and made some calls to get it done. They more than likely did not spend hours upon hours trying to add a hidden subtext. Below I have listed the several points that will show that this is not about rape.

1 - Cover the bullet hole and what do you see. A sleeping woman. You do not see a rape victim. While you do not have to be familiar with the game series you can probably pick out from the name of the game that you are a hitman. The easiest way to make a hit is to get them while they are sleeping. Hence the sleeping girl that is shot.

2 - How does someone in the act of raping someone shoot a person in the head square on. You would have to dislocate your wrist to be able to make that shot straight on.

3 - If said person had been raped do you think they would still have their shoes on? Usually in the fighting the shoes would have been lost.

4 - You cannot tell me this girl was raped and her eyeliner is still intact. If her eye liner is still intact after crying (which I don't know how you couldn't cry while or especially after being raped) then they need to market that brand better.

I think if you look at these reasons you will see that there is not subtext of rape. Now that that's off my chest I sure we can all realize that we have put way too much thought into something that isn't even there.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 11:58AM (Unverified) said

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Vlad-

Asking readers to dissect videogame marketing was brilliant and I hope you guys do this on a regular basis.

The problem is, companies that are vying for gamers $$ don't always know when they've pushed the limits - limits of decency, stupidity, or intelligibility.

The marketing industry reads this blog because this kind of information is vital to them.

So if an ad sucks, let's get the word out! If it appeals to us, then that's fine too.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 12:03PM (Unverified) said

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I don't see the connection between rape and this ad. You're overanalyzing this ad. Some of you are seeing things that simply aren't there.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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I can not understand where the controversy is coming from. I've looked at the ad over and over again (re reading my PCGAMER issue) and still can't understand what the issue at hand is. The first time I saw the ad I had a small smile on my face and thought to myself "creative" because it WAS a creative ad. There is no blood and an attractive woman who's legs are revealed. Now if anyone finds the legs offensive should get out more or just turn on the TV. All you're gonna see is legs and mostly from undergage girls. There's nothing offensive in this ad and I do believe it was beautifully executed.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 12:25PM jocozo3 said

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A couple of points.

1) I'm amused by Newsweek's (not MSNBC's) surprise that we had a thoughtful discussion. Maybe someone in the media will start to realize that smart and mature people play games too.

2) While I bought into Kate's (and others) arguments last week that the ad definitely had a "violence against sexualized women" tone to it, I didn't feel that the ad implied rape necessarily. Now a week later, I'm still not convinced it automatically implies rape, but I'm starting to understand where the idea comes from. Put it in the perspective of a fantasy (as mentioned in the original post) one might imagine this would be the image in a rapist's head. Had the woman not been dressed so provocatively or had it been a guy, it could have been the fantasy of just a killer, but her clothes do say something. But when approached only logically, I have a hard time believing a rape/murder would look anything like this and her clothes would be somewhat inconsequential to the image. By judging from only what I can see, it's a murdered woman but not a rape victim necessarily. So yeah, I can see both sides of the argument being valid. It depends on how it's approached.

That said, I still don't think any of this was the intention of the advertisers. It seems like they thought people in general were more familiar with the game than they actually are and would "get" the play on words. As we proved over the last week, they were quite mistaken. Anyone who doesn't know about the game will just see a murdered woman (sexualized or not) and be turned off.

Two thumbs down! ;)
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 12:42PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with Konshu. There is no rape implied. Without the bullethole this ad could easily be placed in a woman's magazine advertising perfume, lingerie, or whatever.

I feel the marketers were steering clear of any rape implications. There are no bruises or cuts and her clothes doesn't appear to be ripped or torn apart. There are no signs of a struggle. Hell even both of her high heels are still perfectly on her feet.

Great ad. I never played Hitman--heard it wasn't that good--but their advertising is so compelling that I want to, at the very least, try it.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 12:59PM (Unverified) said

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You know, if you're going to use Konshu's arguments, take a picture of a rape victim, cover up any visible she might have, and she looks like just another woman. You can't use the "pretend the injury isn't there" argument - the injury is the part of the discussion's focus.

Moreover, you need to use a more vigorous argument than "Oh, you just see implied rape because you want to." That's an ad hominem argument, and is fallacious. After all, the other side could just as easily say "Oh, you don't see implied rape because you don't want to."

If you want to argue the inverse, fine. But bring some actual logical arguments into it and not debate pitfalls.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:12PM (Unverified) said

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With all do respect there is one thing and one thing only I see in Katies opinion. Typical "I am woman hear me roar" feminazi nonsense.

Everything does not revolve around females and their issues. Everything that appears to be rape isn't, yet we rush to judge (look at Dukes Lacrosse team, screwed for life) we know all about the players involved, screw there lives, but we must "protect" the woman involved. Nonsense.

We've allowed giving birth to children, babies to be turned into a womans issue about her body and that's considered a sane argument. "It's my body and my baby I can do what I want" and like sheep we go along with it. So a fathers rights are stripped away and a woman gets away with murder under the guise of womens health.

Does anyone else see a trend...

The only thing I saw was a lame add. It didn't tickle my fancy one way or the other. It failed at it's primary job of enticing me into buying the game in question. However it did prepair me for the assanine anti female jibberish that I knew was coming from some one some where.

I showed the add to my wife and she concurred with me. This doesn't portray rape or violence against women. What it does do however is show how ignorant to reality and facts our society really is. How men don't have a backbone anymore to be run over with such nonsense and how woman would allow themselves to be victimized by there own, not by men.

I'm all for womans rights, not womans privelages. Like it or not men and woman need eachother to survive. Nuffsaid. We are equal because we are different and the things I lack that she can supply and vice versa is what makes us one, what makes us whole. Alas, by the time we realize that it will be to late...or perhapse it allready is.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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Simply put this ad doesn't really suggest rape or "violence against sexualized women" really. Kate and quite a few others misunderstand why there is a woman instead of a male. It is because the majority of this industry is fueled by male gamers. So to say "Beautifully Executed" with a male instead of a female would have a different conotation and the pun would be lost. Its a play on words because the woman is supposedly beautiful and she is partially naked to enhance the fact that she is supposed to be attractive. Anybody who seriously thinks that this addis saying anything more than "Hey all you horny guys buy our game!!" are really reading to much into the ad.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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Simply put this ad doesn't really suggest rape or "violence against sexualized women" really. Kate and quite a few others misunderstand why there is a woman instead of a male. It is because the majority of this industry is fueled by male gamers. So to say "Beautifully Executed" with a male instead of a female would have a different conotation and the pun would be lost. Its a play on words because the woman is supposedly beautiful and she is partially naked to enhance the fact that she is supposed to be attractive. Anybody who seriously thinks that this addis saying anything more than "Hey all you horny guys buy our game!!" are really reading to much into the ad.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:25PM (Unverified) said

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Can I ask why I wasn't able to post comments on this ad, and also the new ad put up today (or last night, or whatever)? It could be just my browser, but then I was able to post comments on other entries on the same page. Just a little complaint.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:33PM (Unverified) said

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mmm I agree theres not really a rape or violence against women undertone here. More like uninhibited, unprevoked violence against everyone, which is actually even more disturbing. But no one really seems to take issue with that because hey, the game is called 'Hitman', I think you'd know what you're in for if you bought it regardless of the weird ad.

The creepiest thing about this ad is the actual content. They present you with a pale dead corpse, bullet hole in her forehaed, with no explanation behind her murder, and expect you to go "hey, awesome" and want to buy the game. They think people, gamers in particular of course, are attracted to and maybe a little turned on by just... death. Not the actual killing (the gameplay) or the plot (why is she dead), but just a mound of pale dead people at your virtual feet. You're supposed to look at a corpse (yes yes, a model paid to look like one, but for the purposes of the ad a freakin corpse in lingere) and think "that's beautiful."

Creepy, just plain creepy.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 1:46PM Heretrix said

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The ad: Simple and Provacative.
A beautiful woman executed...beautifully executed.

That's all I get from that ad and I bet that's all the marketing people intended. why in the world would any sane ad agency risk making an advertisement that glorifies rape?

Some of you people are fucking crazy.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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Since it's apparent that my previous comment was lost on people...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Before anyone calls the other side of the debate crazy/stupid/fascist/ignorant/whatever, please read that Wikipedia article. Afterwards, consider whether your comment will actually further the argument, or just lower the signal/noise ratio.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:18PM guises said

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"You know, if you're going to use Konshu's arguments, take a picture of a rape victim, cover up any visible she might have, and she looks like just another woman. You can't use the "pretend the injury isn't there" argument - the injury is the part of the discussion's focus."
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No, the injury is not related to the discussion - no one is debating that the woman has been killed. The point is that after you accept and acknowledge the fact that she is dead, there is no further evidence of rape.

This is not the same as covering up the evidence of rape on a rape victim. This is covering up the evidence of murder on a murder victim and then looking for additional evidence of further crimes and finding none.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:33PM (Unverified) said

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I just don't like to see beautiful women dead.

An ad like that turns me off completely because it's like that scene in the movie Munich where we see the topless girl and are like "heeey! Right on!!" then she gets shot in the neck/chest area and it's like we were punished for having lustful (natural) thoughts. Maybe I'm reading into it too much but that's what I got from this ad, too.

Legs... cleavage... OH, DAMN--that's not right...
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:47PM (Unverified) said

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footsteps I think you are missing the point of my argument. Yes, in the case of a real rape you can cover up certian signs of the struggle and they would look normal. The problem comes in that this is not a real rape. This is an advertisement and what you see is what you get. You don't get to talk to her friends and family to find out how much this hurt her. SHE IS NOT REAL. Therefore in this case yes you can cover up the bullet hole and it looks like she is sleeping. Because the visuals are all that we have to go on. I am not pretending it's not there so I can block it out. I am using logical thinking to surmise the cause of death. So what I am sayign is that from the picture you cannot surmise logically that she had been raped. There are no signs of struggle and she is still fairly well clothed (more than I see on teens in the mall sometimes). This was my point.

Since I have everyone's attention anyway. Let me also say that this doesn't promote violence TOWARDS WOMEN. I put emphasis there because I will not try to say this does not promote violence. That is all it promotes in that aspect. To tack on towards women there I would need a much more brutal scene. The reason I say this is the ease at which she died. I believe it was a single shot to the head while she was sleeping [in the study with the revolver by Mrs. White lol]. She did not die some horrible death. She was not beaten within and inch of her life then another inch. Simple single shot while she was sleeping. More that likely she didn't even know that she had died. So all that being said how does this promote violence against women. If nothing else it shows he was actually nice to her and let her go peacefully. And again I am sure we can all realize that we have put way too much thought into something that isn't even there.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 3:50PM (Unverified) said

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I'd love to hear your thoughts on the latest Hitman Blood Money ad in this month's Game Informer (issue 157), on pages 4 and 5.

This time the victim is a Cellist, sitting in a chair with his throat cut, with the words "Classically Executed" over the top.

So, does this ad promote violence against men?
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 4:02PM (Unverified) said

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Okay, it seems some people mistook my argument.

I never says it depicts a rape. I never said it doesn't. I said, however, that the ad suggests it - it raises the possibility, but doesn't confirm or deny either way.

The problem with the ad, as I've said before, is that it conflates sexuality and violence - namely, that a woman placing herself in a sexual situation opens herself up to violence. Moreover, the ad's positive appraisal of this action is approving of violence towards sexuality. Now, rape is only one of many expressions of that, but it's certainly the most potent symbolically and provides a frame of reference.

I see the point of the argument - there's no proof of it one way, so it must be the other. But that's a logical fallacy. You need proof that it didn't happen in any way, shape, or form, and you can't provide that (just as much as I can't provide proof that it did). So instead, you're left with the suggestion that it approves of the suggestion of rape.

Now, if you want to argue against that, you have to either argue how the image isn't violent, or how the image isn't sexualized in any way, shape, or form. I haven't seen a single person convincingly argue either point.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 4:36PM (Unverified) said

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I find this whole controversy pretty ridiculous personally... the game is called Hitman, not Rapist. There's no signs of rape at all, simply a *beautiful* woman that was *executed*. I don't feel it's the advertisers responsibility to cater to people that don't have adequate reading comprehension to understand a simple pun, or to people who purposefully offend themselves by reading too much into everything they see.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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Something else just occured to me.

What if we replaced the woman with, say, an American soldier and replaced the caption with "Patriotically Executed"?

Would you then say that it doesn't contain an anti-American message?

How about replacing the woman with a priest? Or a dog?
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 6:40PM (Unverified) said

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I think most of the comments here have it right; the only reason there is only controversy is because it's a woman being killed. Also tha analyzation of this ad is a little off base since this is a series of ads that don't all feature women. The fact that the woman is featured is simply playing off the caption for this ad "Beautifully Executed". The next ad shows a violinist and says "Classically Executed". I think the real issue isn't the ad, but with our society and the fact that whenever something negative happens to a woman a greater importance or meaning always has to be behind it. Nevermind the hundreds of men who die in games or are featured killed in ads or any other form of entertainment.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 6:44PM (Unverified) said

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Great ad, great pins. Legs and bullet wounds. I think the ad trancends our basic human thought pattern, it's just too perfect...
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 9:55PM guises said

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"Now, if you want to argue against that, you have to either argue how the image isn't violent, or how the image isn't sexualized in any way, shape, or form. I haven't seen a single person convincingly argue either point."
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No. There is such a thing as burden of proof. The argument is that this advertisement somehow encourages or promotes or makes acceptable some manner of sexual violence. The counter argument is that there is no evidence to suggest that. What you are saying is that "no evidence of sexual violence" is not sufficient and that the advertisers need to prove their innocence.

The other aspect of what you are saying here, that violence and sex may be acceptable separately but should not be seen near one another, is overly broad. That is outside of the scope of this argument and is, effectively, a critique of a vast portion of popular culture. That's all fine and dandy, but not the discussion at hand.
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Posted: Apr 14th 2006 11:13PM (Unverified) said

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She's obviously supposed to be attractive. But she's not 'cause she's dead. Unless ,of course, your attracted to dead people.
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I think this ad was just meant to appeal to necropheliacs. Us normal people wouldn't understand it.
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Posted: Apr 15th 2006 12:45PM (Unverified) said

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To the fine marketing department that made this exceptional example of modern tastless marketing:

Thanks for putting a full 2 page spread of a dead naked whore on the first two pages of this month's Play magazine. The woman and her 8 yr old son sitting next to me in the airport really appreciated your content when i opened the magazine for the first time. I got the "what the hell are YOU reading" look.. and yeah. it was a game magazine. I think there was a review of Princess Peach a few pages later.

I was so pleased to see a debate about this article, as it invoked a strong "this is tasteless" reaction in me, and i thought I had no where to go :)
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Posted: Apr 15th 2006 7:10PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, yes, its a little late to jump in on this particular discussion but here goes. The accusations of implications of rape and sexual violence in this case are completely obnoxious. You may find it distasteful that the ad attempts to include both themes of violence and obvious sexualization of the woman figure, and, personally, I do think that aspect of the ad is a bit distasteful. However, invoking the word "rape" and specifically violence against women is an incredible stretch.

The ad is obviously made to make people a little uncomfortable with it, but I think that the true context is overlooked. Looking at the ad, the first thing many people will notice is that, apart from the bullethole in her head, this could just be any sex-based advertisement featuring a scantily clad woman. However, the game is abaout being a hitman, a cold-blooded killer. A hitman does not care is his target is attractive or vulnerable, which are both images that the woman in the ad provokes. The hitman cares about the kill. The words "Beautifully Executed" do a little push-pull with your sensibilities. The word "beautiful" makes you think of the woman, sexualized...blah blah blah... but then the word "executed" completes the phrase and makes it all about the kill, the clean shot through the head, a small but , for a hitman, most important variable. The ad, if anything, attempts to say that this game is based on a very cold and heartless concept of murder for money, and, in order to understand it, you need to put aside your preconcieved notions and your general tendency to see the sexual side of everything, and see the disturbing beauty that a hitman sees in the kill.

It is unsettling, yes, but I think the sexual themes are not meant to be played out the way people are thinking of them. The makers of the ad knows that the sexual themes are the first thing you will think of, and then they pull a little "Gotcha'", changing the focus of the ad to that of the hitman's kill and leaving the viewer a little unnerved.

To say that this invokes ideas of rape or sexual violence is just silly. It seems directly counter to the whole point of the ad to do so first of all. Second of all, it is quite out of context with a game about a hitman. This is not GTA, where you pick up hookers then kill them for your money (err, gross). A hitman does not rape his targets. A hitman walks into the room and shoots them, cleanly and swiftly, regardless of their sexual appeal. Unsettling, yes. Possibly offensive, sure. "embarrassingly old-fashioned in its promulgation of antiquated gender norms", no. C'mon Vlad. Way to take the safe route and not offend anyone, but you don't need to be so presumptuous and self-righteous about it.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2006 11:07AM (Unverified) said

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The image seems to be implying that she was not anticipating an attack. She is wearing the lingerei because she is not expecting company and is getting ready to go to bed. It is definatly a very artistic ad and most of the people who are complaining about it do not truely comprehend it. They are interpretting it incorrectly and taking the entire image out of context.
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