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If I had to prosecute every idiot on the Internet, I'd well, have a lot of work to do. ;-)

KILL THOSE DAMN PEOPLE! HOW DARE THEY TRY TO EARN A LIVING SO THEY CAN FEED THEIR FAMILIES!

BASTARDS!]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:01PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
It's an XBox 360 Exclusive! Only on XBox Live!

Although I'm teasing, I wouldn't doubt it.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:02PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:08PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
In unrelated speculation, I bet Lou Dobbs starts recommending (specific) video games on his show...]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:08PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:08PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:12PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
This is silly! The internet, of all places, is bound to offend. Why not build off this offense and start making statements about immigration and correcting wrong attitudes? Items like this game only exist so long as people forward them. I suggest he put out a warrant for his entire address book.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:17PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:18PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:18PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/"Shooting immigrants that come over the border by some is considered a ligitimate solution to our border security problems."

By WHO? I really hate it when people try to validate their points with pseudo-sources like "some".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:19PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:22PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
The person on comment 5 needs to learn that just because he is American and feels a certain way, dosen't mean other Americans feel the same way or that he has the right to speak for every American as a whole. It's people like HIM who scare me more than anyone. ]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:22PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
It is such sweet justice IMO when Navarette--from the land of litigation where it is encouraged to sue when your feelings are hurt---cannot find anyone to sue!

~GAME ON~
]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:27PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
screw him. i'm glad his special feelings got offended.

good thing the supreme court decided that video games are covered by the second ammendment, so NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Navarette, you are not a unique and special snowflake.

i'm going to go sue, somethingawful.com because they have greatly hurt my feelings with their jabs at furries.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:29PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:32PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Argue about illegal immigration all you want but when this sort of trash comes about then it shows who really needs to be kicked out of America.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:33PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:34PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
White is a race. Black is a race. Asian is a race.

If Hispanic is a race, then the Irish must also be a race. But who would be so absurd to confuse ethnicity and race?]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:34PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:34PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:43PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
As for the whole "US stolen land and Mexico"...get over it already. How in the hell do you think civilizations were expanded and humanity evolved? Do you think that everything was pre-planned before everyone arrived?]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:44PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
White is a race. Black is a race. Asian is a race.

If Hispanic is a race, then the Irish must also be a race. But who would be so absurd to confuse ethnicity and race?


Actually, you are right and wrong HISPANIC are those living in America with true SPANISH lineage. The majority of Mexicans who are Latino that are indigenous to their country. This is all Colonialism at its best. I am amazed at how people never get this fact straight. Even the news media gets it wrong.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:44PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
I do not think shooting ANYONE tyring to illegally break into this country is offensive. Living in the south, I've spoken to lots of people about this issue and more than just of few would be supportive of a shoot to kill policy regarding border jumpers. If they didn't want to be killed, they shouldn't have tried to cross. This isn't "weasel words." Some people feel like that. It's the truth. I think it is more weaselish(?) to imply that somehow no one is supportive of such a policy.

And this guy is a liberal jerkwad because he sees some stupid flashgame and starts calling out "ohhhh, I'm offended.. ohhh It's racist.." Right there. Liberal. If people can rag on others' mother's mother for liking a particular video game console, I can sure has hell call this guy a liberal jerkwad.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:46PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:47PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
#5 jp007, "Shooting immigrants that come over the border by some is considered a ligitimate solution to our border security problems."

And those people are crazed and wrong.
]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:50PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
i just hope people dont start calling us "breeders" and treating us differently just because we are NOT AMERICAN CITZENS ]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:50PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 7:55PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Yeah, because offended people suing are always wrong...

Just like Brown vs The board of education...Wrong to sue because they were offended.]]>Apr 19th 2006 7:59PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 8:01PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
I think the MOST effective soluton would involved more focus on the corrupt Mexican government that fosters a shitty society in which people live in poverty and have to leave in order to support their families. I don't see Canadians flooding over the border and they have managed to piggyback on our rising wealth and military might pretty damn well. What's Mexico's problem?]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:02PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 8:05PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 8:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 8:07PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Then why the hell is there a Star of David in the american flag? Why are there three stereotypes for mexicans? By that statement, either you are a closet bigot (at best?) or you just plain don't get it (guess how would that classify you).

"No more than "kill the Cubans" or whatever in GTA"

When they say "Kill the Cubans", do they imply "kill everyone from the cuban race", or "Kill the Cuban mafia"? This supports the conclusion of how you aren't getting it.

This evidently racist game says "Kill all spics". These racist guys, "Deutschland" as an example, consider "mexican" everyone that lives in Latin America.

I bet "Deutschland" has never met a mexican before. (No, meeting is not the same as "being on the same line to get out of the supermarket").

"Hispanic is not a race. It is an ethnicity."

This game and racist ideologues imply by "hispanic" or "Spic" a "mestizo" or half-white half-indians, or simply indians.

"White is a race. Black is a race. Asian is a race."

That is a very subjective and ignorant claim. "Race" is a relative term. To some, race doesn't exist. To others, there are races within whites, blacks and Asians.

"If Hispanic is a race, then the Irish must also be a race. But who would be so absurd to confuse ethnicity and race?"

Irish could be a race to those that think that each separate "nation" is a race. Most irish are white people that come from the celts. Most hispanics (not spanyards) are a mix of native americans, spanyards, and a some moorish, sephardic and black blood.

"As for the whole "US stolen land and Mexico"...get over it already. How in the hell do you think civilizations were expanded and humanity evolved? Do you think that everything was pre-planned before everyone arrived?"

Well, this claim would justify the mexicans going to California, Texas, Arizona, etcetera. How in the hell do you think mexicans will expand and evolve then? Duh, get over it. Obviously that's not what I think, but if you want to argue against illegal immigrants, arguments like that won't help you.

America did steal part from Mexico, and land from the native americans. But that's also Mexico's fault for selling some of the lands for two cents.

Anyway, I'm all for letting a few immigrants (not all) to stay in the states with the status of *immigrants*, but treated as humans, not as rats. Let's just see how many we need, and send back all the pregnant women or women with kids, while letting highly-qualified professionals and people that do the hard work that americans don't want to do.

For the rest of mexicans, they should try to make their own country better, not America. Flooding to USA only hurts both countries.]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:08PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 8:11PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
But they became illegal when their visas expired.

"illegal immagrants protesting saying they should have the right to do what they want in our country."

Umm..."freedom of speech" is for CITIZENS of the country and not people who broke the laws to get here. They all should have been arrested for disrupting traffic and causing a disturbance. Hell...ALL the stupid politicians (including the backstabing Mayor of LA) should be arrested for not listening to the LEGAL citizens and enforcing the laws.]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:11PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/ Shooting immigrants that come over the border by some is considered a ligitimate solution to our border security problems. It is not "racist" to enforce US laws.

So, you think killing a human being because they came to our wonderful country is legitimate?

Jesus Christ, not even the Minutemen say they intend on using their weapons. Get a grip on reality, dude.
You're disturbing.]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:15PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
That's bloody retarded. I guess people don't understand history these days.

Furthermore, stereotypes exist for a reason. I hear stories all the time of women illegally entering the U.S. to give birth to their children (breeder?!). The drug trade flows from the south for the most part. And a lot of migrants refuse to assimilate (Mexican nationalist).

What's more, in Mexico, "illegal immigrants" are considered felons. Furthermore, the Mexican police shoot, coerce, and rob them.Talk about double-standards.

Finally, illegal immigrants DON'T have the rights of a citizen and NEVER SHOULD under the U.S. constitution. To think anything else is asanine.

We just need to build a wall on the border to stop the flow of people, drugs, and crime. There already is a wall around the official border crossing, so the precedent is already set.]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:24PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Is there any topic that _doesn't_ sell ringtones?]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:25PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Does the game tell you to kill every mexicans everywhere, or just those crossing the border. Do you enter Mexican villiages and start commiting genocide? Or do you sit on the American side and pick people off as they come across the border? Killing cuban gangsters and killing mexican border crossers. You're still killing criminals. Killing criminals is either bad, or it isn't. You can't have both.
I'll admit that "spic" is a pretty racist term. That wasn't mentioned in the summary, and as I said, I have no interest in playing the actual game. I don't think the 3 STEREOTYPES are examples of pure racism on their own though. They are just that, stereotypes. Stereotyping != racism no matter what any feel good, easily offended by everything, person tries to insist. ]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:25PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Go back to Mexico, ya freakin' hippies!

This is America. Did you hear me? AMERICA. We speak ENGLISH. Learn it or leave.]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:42PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Gaining territory militarily is stealing, dips. It doesn't matter who started the conflict. If someone crashes your car that doesn't give you permission to steal theirs. If somebody hits you in the head that doesn't give you permission to own his house. Territory taken by force is usually returned in exchange for peace, just like Israel has done with the arabs. United States has almost always kept the territories they've stolen. USA is a wonderful country but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its flaws.

"That's bloody retarded. I guess people don't understand history these days."

It's bloody retarded to consider "military gains" as "not stealing", just like downloading music on Napster, Kazaa, Imesh, Limewire, etcetera isn't stealing. I guess people don't like to feel responsible for their actions these days.

"Furthermore, stereotypes exist for a reason."

Name a useful one.

"I hear stories all the time of women illegally entering the U.S. to give birth to their children (breeder?!)."

Does that make every mexican women a breeder? Only for red necks.

" The drug trade flows from the south for the most part."

And I wonder... why is it that mexicans *don't* consume drugs as much as americans? Americans could put a stop to it by doing (or not doing) one thing: STOP CONSUMING. As simple as that. Economy 101. Once the demand for a good stops, production ends.

Sure, the product is illegal, but what makes you think there are no americans involved in crime? Oh I get it, because americans involved are "exceptions", while mexicans or other foreigners are "the rule".

"And a lot of migrants refuse to assimilate (Mexican nationalist)."

A lot of white people refuese to assimilate to other groups either. That's natural in EVERY race, nation, religion, ethnicity. Get over it.

"What's more, in Mexico, "illegal immigrants" are considered felons. Furthermore, the Mexican police shoot, coerce, and rob them.Talk about double-standards."

Again, all illegal immigrants are considered felons? Are they just considered felons for crossing the border? LOOK, HE IS A FELON, HE IS CROSSING THE BORDER TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DECENT LIVING FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY!! SHOOT HIM!!


"Finally, illegal immigrants DON'T have the rights of a citizen and NEVER SHOULD under the U.S. constitution. To think anything else is asanine."

They are human and they deserve to be treated like humans. Criminal humans deserve to be treated like criminal humans, and not even all (nor most) mexican legal or illegal immigrants, nationalized, ethnics or otherwise are criminals.

"We just need to build a wall on the border to stop the flow of people, drugs, and crime. There already is a wall around the official border crossing, so the precedent is already set."

So what's the fucking problem then? There's already a wall, so stop bitching about breeders, miscegenation, etcetera.]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:52PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Racism, however, is not funny. Not in the least. I'm a white male from the suburbs--not really affected by immigration issues--and even I found this game offensive. It's ridiculous and idiotic and bigotous--it goes as far as using racial slurs, showing the maturity of the author and his (or her?) racist agenda.

Navarette, however, is out of line and fighting a crusade that he won't win. There have been many, many cases of this nature in US history, and most rule in favor freedom of speech rather than the offended person's feelings. He should be more upset at the insensitive sod that e-mailed it to him in the first place, not the faceless developer who created the piece of crap.

However un-funny the 'game' might be, and however offensive it actually is to many, the author(s) had the right to create it, by law, and that right has been upheld many, many times. To sue them for exercising that right is to call into question some very basic principles and rights most people in the US exercise in one way or another on a daily basis. He can be offended all he wants, and shout and cry about the racism in the game, but nothing can be done about the fact that it was made. ]]>Apr 19th 2006 8:57PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 8:57PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/Apr 19th 2006 9:06PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/We have a ton of people flooding over from mexico.
Why? Why do they want to be over here at the great risk that coming over here puts them instead of staying at their own country? theres not quite so many U.S. citizens trying to get across the border except for vacation......

and randomness about the wall idea, A hispanic student in my class tells us that many of the people he knows say "it doesnt matter how high the wall is, we'll still climb it"

Which sorta repeats itself into why on earth do they want to be in the U.S. so badly and why on earth do they want to leave Mexico? Can we do anything about that?

*disclaimer* I realize that we do have a ton of them here now and thats the large issue at hand, but stoopping it from going be beneficial yes?]]>Apr 19th 2006 9:16PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
If American politics DID change based on the whims of non citizens, US foreign policy would have changed September 12th, 2001.

Regardless, this sort of game is made with the intent on belittling a people.

There is a line, and these guys crossed it, whereas a show like South Park parks itself right on that line. I mean, its one thing to have a kid form a Passion gestapo and demand someone hand over his neckbound bags of Jew Gold, but it would be another thing to have characters going around actually killing Jews.

Sure, they killed Canadians in the movie, but there really isn't the same history of hate and violence there.]]>Apr 19th 2006 9:25PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
/self-loathing Mexican]]>Apr 19th 2006 9:26PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
Carlos Mencia...and he is god damn hilarious at it too.

@ qbix:

So b/c people don't want to try and make a difference in their damn country...we should allow them to enter our country ILLEGALLY, cut in front of all those who are going about the process LEGALLY, shutdown ERs around the country and fail to assimilate. Yea that makes sense...

You are right that illegal immigration will not stop but the freakin government would actually protect the borders, the Minutemen wouldn't have to volunteer their time.]]>Apr 19th 2006 9:47PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/19/racist-game-spreads-hate-over-immigration-debate/
With that said, yes, the game is racist and incredibly distasteful. But suing over it is just silly. Another waste of time and money in the judicial system. ]]>Apr 19th 2006 9:48PM