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Posted: Apr 21st 2006 11:29AM (Unverified) said

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boring .. .

don't know if that's the right word but it's the only one that comes to mind when i see this ad.. .

the ad does fit the game, that's a given, but for me, oblivion might look nice, but the genre and style fall short, it's SO generic, the whole middle ages, magic, knights tale, junk has been done so many times it's aggravating .. .

so the game looks nice.. . there's more to games than that.. .



how about original story line ?

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 11:45AM (Unverified) said

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I'm with Christian... it's boring.

I assume the image at the top is supposed to be dramatic, with the knight in front of a burning castle or whatever, but the way it's cropped makes it feel claustrophobic instead of epic. The guy's too big as well, and *he* gets cropped pretty badly too.

The layout's a little generic as well. The big shot on top, lots of review comments, and the little screenshots. There's nothing that makes it stand out, and there's nothing there that really catches my eye as far as the game is concerned either.

Feels very much like an "advertsing-by-numbers" effort.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 11:45AM (Unverified) said

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christian in what planet do you live on.... calling Oblivion (One if not the best game I've ever played) Boring, that tells us that you are a disgrace as a game and to the whole human kind, and regarding the Ad, yeah it does not do justice to the game, for that forsaken Ad It took me 1 more extra week to buy Oblivion

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 11:53AM (Unverified) said

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Its a good ad. It dosen't really grab your attention, you have to be the kind of person who reads ads anyway rather than just skipping the page. The quotes to the left of the page are enough to make you interested. Combined with good screenshots its good enough to make you want to buy the game.

If I had have seen that ad, I'd be a lot more interested in buying the game. I've already ordered the game though, and that was the result of recommendation from a friend and all the hype about the game from gamer websites.

I think games would benefit from more a bit more advertising. This is the first ad I've seen for the game.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:00PM (Unverified) said

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Yes
perhaps a little boring and unimaginative but does it have to be revolutionary.
Movie advertising is even more boring. Usually very simple posters/print (that don't usually even show any shots from the film) and the commercials/trailers are always just clips of the film. Nothing to complain about really because people still go and see the film or buy the game.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:01PM (Unverified) said

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The add isn't bad but it doesn't get me excited either. I'm a huge fan of the game, but this add seems to be more about putting the game out there for people to see rather than actually trying to sell you the game.

Slightly off topic, the countdown videos that Bethesda did were a stroke of advertising genius. They showed off the many facets of the game and were just long enough to have you wanting more.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:09PM (Unverified) said

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Agree with both comments so far. You could take this advert and mock it up with lines and boxes:

- favorable quotes go here
- partner symbols here
- huge shot of avatar here
- game logo here

Very "advertising by the numbers." I'm sure some agency's got a template on file that they use whenever they need to whip up a "standard game ad" for a client that requires it.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:11PM (Unverified) said

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My first thought is that it was an ad for a Dungeons & Dragons game, probably a Forgotten Realms one (particularly in the color scheme). When your ad makes someone think of somebody else's product, it's not a good ad.

Paul has a very good point about the ad's layout. I hate the cropping, and I get no sense what the game looks like because the actual screens are so small.

Finally, the ad is too static. I get no sense this game has alot of action, or might allow me to explore alot. It's a fairly standard ad, all things told. Boring, nondescript, and unmemorable.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:16PM (Unverified) said

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The problem with this ad is that it has no concept. I'm with Paul on this one - ad by numbers. I'm trying to think of ads with concepts, ads that tried to show you what was really different about their product, and my mind goes waaay back.

http://nostalgia.planethalflife.gamespy.com/halflife/artwork/runshootrun_ad.jpg

that was a fold out ad, the black part on the left was all you saw, then you openend it up for this amazing spread - keep in mind that those graphics were unheard of in the day. It captures exactly what makes the game different and amazing.

Oblivion is a game with such potential for almost anything, they really blew an opportunity here.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:21PM (Unverified) said

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It's very conventional. I'd say it's one step above showing the game box. You get no sense of the scope of the game, or the myriad of choices you have.

The generic knight does nothing for me when I'm running around in the game with a Vampiric Khajiit Thief Guildmaster/Warlock/Arena Champion/Fighters Guild Associate in enchanted glass armor, wielding an enchanted warhammer [working on my blunt skill :-)]. That stuff is what they should be emphasizing. At the very least, get some of the different races into the picture. The only unconventional image in the entire ad is the small shot of the troll. Everything else is too, well, normal.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:22PM (Unverified) said

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I've seen this ad about 10 times in the last few months so whenever I see it anymore, I just turn the page. It's kind of annoying now. Precious space in my beloved game magazines is taken up by the same ad every time! Also the ad is kind of boring. Nice visuals, though.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:24PM (Unverified) said

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yep, boring.

I've never played this game, but from what I hear the main selling point are the environmental graphics and the hugeness of the world, so perhaps a better idea would have been to have an expansive lanscape shot, maybe will a small avitar somewhere off the the side. The image of the castle in the green field thats one of the screenshots would have worked a lot better than the knight and the ambiguous bkg.

Too many game ads these days focus on the single avatar close-up, when what you're going to be seeing while actually playing (esp. in 1st person mode) is everything else.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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Where's the skin? Where's the bullet hole in the head/slashed throat? Games need blood to be fun! (And yes, this sarcastic diatribe was directed at all you blood thirsty cavmen who criticized Red Steel for not having blood)

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:49PM Bobbo said

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Please Joystiq...please stop creating articles for Ads. This is so lame! Are you guys getting paid to do this cause this is just over the top lame.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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Jon: we address your concern above. Can you please read what's written in the post?

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:51PM (Unverified) said

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prolly the best game ads i've seen in awhile belong to shadow of the colossus.. .

very creative how text was just used to get a point across .. .

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 12:55PM (Unverified) said

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The worst thing about this ad is how redundant it is. I’ve seen it in EGM and Game Informer, both of which reviewed the game. The magazines that the ad appears in by and large had huge previews and reviews for it, often with awards like “PC Game of the Month.” This generic ad basically says “critics liked it”, which all of these magazines have already been saying for months.

Further, I agree with previous posters that the ad doesn’t speak to the selling point of the game: a large, beautiful, open-ended world. In fact, the ad feels cluttered while the game feels wide open. The large avatar and the castle in the background suggest nothing but “this is an RPG”, and the screenshots don’t help. All the reviewer comments basically say “sweet graphics”, which is important to the beauty of the world, but the big pretty world is made much cooler by the feeling of having more options than you can ever hope to take advantage of. These aspects aare more important to Oblivion than “RPG + GFX = YOU BUY ME”

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 1:03PM Heretrix said

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Yes, it's boring as hell and it certainly isn't going to get people talking about the game,(They already got that pretty much covered) but this is what you get when you aren't trying to take any risks..Bethusda really doesn't need any snazzy ads to promote Oblivion because everybody is talking about it already...

That's the genius of the Hitman ads and others like it, they get people talking about the game....period. Those type of ads are about getting a reaction from whoever views the ad, negative or positive.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 1:03PM (Unverified) said

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I think the ad was very well done and did get me quite excited for the game (actually I was excited even before viewing the ad). How can a game so huge in scope, so open in nature, so different that conventional RPGs be capture in a few images. Also you must take into consideration that word of mouth about this game was already at a super high level. Everyone knew about Oblivion well before seeing these ads. No one looked at the ad wondering what the game was about. This ad is a good reflection of Bethesda Software. There are no half naked women fighting the enemy in this game. Women are armoured and dressed like men, just what you would expect in a medieval battle. Oblivion is a top class game, and so is the ad. If you need half naked op huge breasted women getting executed in the head to excite you, then turn to the next page, for there are numerous other ads to satisfy your desires.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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Meh. Would have been a lot better to have a hot little naked wood elf instead of that boring warrior dude. It's a good thing this ad wasn't my first impression about Oblivion.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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Wow. This one is almost aggressively generic.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 1:25PM (Unverified) said

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anyone see ultima IX in this ad?

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 1:38PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think there is anything wrong with that ad, but it only shows a very small portion of what Oblivion is about. I like how the ad shows some of the great graphical touches of the game (great shot of the detailed armor/weapon andenviromental effects).

It is understandable, that one 8x10 printed ad cannot reasonably show everything that is available in a 8Gig, 200+hour, thousand acre, multiple city enviroment (along with underworld) populated by some of the best NPC and AI'ed baddies seen this side of Blizzard. While they can't show everything, I do think they should have picked some of the things that are most prevelant in the game: horses?, first person shot of sniping with the bow?, oblivion gate?, crowded city?... and so on.

Where the ad does work (for me) is that it tells the fans of the series what it looks like, and that it is now out (with great reviews).

Personally, the shot/angle that blows me away every time, and would be a great picture to give you an idea of how big the world is in Oblivion... your character on horse, standing on the edge of the mountian castle (where Martin is hiding out) overlooking Bruma, and in the distance behind Bruma is the spire of the main city and the water that surrounds it. To me that is a great shot, and really gives you an idea of just how huge the land is.

I must admit, as soon as I saw this game in action (last E3), I knew I was going to buy the Xbox360 to play it... no amount of advertising was needed after that.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 2:00PM frobozz said

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I have to say that no ad gives this game true justice. I bought it because I heard a lot of buzz and thought to myself how I would like to play a good roleplaying game. It turns out this is, without any shadow of a doubt, one of the finest games I have ever played. I've played probably 500 games in my life ... so that's top 1% really.

I ... can't ... resist ... need to cure ... vampirism ... arrrrgh!!!!

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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Speaking as a person who gets games to legally blow stuff up, I say its rather dull. There is a bit of fire in there, just not enough to catch my eye. I really believe they should of used more fire. Fire or a dead Daedra. Or possibly a Daedra on fire.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 2:43PM (Unverified) said

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The ad may not the most amazing visually but it subscribes to the idea that their product is so impressive that they'll let others (reviewers) speak for it. Concerning this concept, one could argue that it needs nothing more. Movies do the same visually; not always with quotes but with actors names. It's simple and effective.

Additionally, as Oblivion is the fastest selling 360 game to date (and one of the best selling computer games), if you don't have it, you've heard about it. The advertisement doesn't need to convince you to buy it as much as it needs to remind you that it exists and it's good.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 3:12PM (Unverified) said

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"3. Its a good ad. It dosen't really grab your attention,"

An ad is supposed to grab your attention. As someone who does this kind of thing for a living, if my design doesn't grab the audience, I've failed.

My problem with this ad is that it's—like many before have already said—too generic in feel. Sure, it's a nice-looking game, but it's not so nice that it makes you go "wow!" This ad does little to communicate scope, which seems to be the real appeal of the ES series. Their art direction for the series doesn't have much flair to it (unlike WoW or maybe the LotR series), so they'd be better served with a design that wasn't so conventional that really sells the scope of the game. And, no, putting it all in the quotes or captions doesn't count. If I'm not pulled in by the layout or primary visual, there's no way I'm going to be reading that stuff.

"13. Please Joystiq...please stop creating articles for Ads. This is so lame! Are you guys getting paid to do this cause this is just over the top lame."

No one is forcing you to read this item. I like and appreciate this series. As a graphic designer, I love to find out what the greater audience actually gets out of a layout. Sometimes I'm really surprised by the responses.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 3:24PM Don Jose said

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The ad would be 300% cooler if they put Daedric armor on that guy, instead of that weak suit he's got.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 3:39PM (Unverified) said

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I think part of the shortcoming of the ad is that they used the same picture they've used over and over again. If you've seen an Oblivion web ad, or concept art, or trailer, you've seen this guy.

Maybe trying a different person, a different action, something that's different from what we've already seen on the internet would have been better.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 3:50PM polvo said

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I had been reading about Oblivion everywhere but actually did not make the connection between the awesome game mentioned everywhere and this ad in the magazine.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 4:01PM (Unverified) said

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The ad does not do the game justice! I agree that the whole middle-ages sword and sorcery genre has been way overexposed but Oblivion is unbelievable. I have never bought a game like it and I am glad I did the research and realize the scope and experience that the game promised. The ads and screenshots look generic and boring but the game is incredible. My desicion to buy the game was based on blogs, interviews and gameplay movies not print ads. If I had not done that digging I would have lumped this game into the same pile with the seemingly millions of "fantasy" games coming out each year.

Ps. I would rather have boring ads like this then supposedly "edgy" ads like hitman. I love "edgy" modern art and graphic design but the hitman ads are sick trash.

Posted: Apr 21st 2006 6:21PM medeasin said

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The ad could definitely use a pair of tits.

Posted: Apr 22nd 2006 12:30AM (Unverified) said

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Does Oblivion even need to advertise? Most people mad their minds up long before it was even close to completion. It's true that this ad isn't particularly clever, but I'm not sure Bethesda needs to sell us Oblivion at this point, they just need to gently remind us it's there.
The lack of tits and hot little naked wood elves (19 and 31, I'm looking at you) is a good thing. It might be generic, but the warrior on display gives a sense of maturity and gravity, and even a hint of a smile: It's not just trying to attract adolescent boys, it's trying to be, well, respectable.

Posted: Apr 22nd 2006 7:06PM (Unverified) said

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I don't realy think oblivion even needed to advertise, if there is anyone out there who likes rpgs and hasn't heard of oblivion they must have been hiding under a rock since the original elderscrolls game came out.
as for the advert itself, i believe its tasteful, its not shoving the game in your face, it lets you know what the game is in a way that lets you make your own decision. the smaller pictures at the bottom also show you what the game is like, it has beautiful scenes that can fill you with joy, and then the darker side, that is at the core of the game. overall i think this is one of the nicer adverts ive seen lately.

pedro.

Posted: Apr 25th 2006 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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Hmmm . . . not horrible, but could be much better.

How about showing a different race . . . and a better view. Maybe you looking down on the Imperial City from a long way off, from the mountains to the north. There are some spots you could screen shot that give you a sense of the immensity of the land, giving you a great view of the city. And then imply that all that can be explored by you.

Or, if you want to show off combat, take the viewer to Oblivion, with some scary looking daedra. That works too, and its red, implying destruction and bad stuff. Show off the evil looking tower in the background of the Kvatch gate.

Posted: Apr 28th 2006 4:32PM (Unverified) said

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The ad is boring, but it must be taken in the larger context of Oblivion. Almost everyone reading the magazine has already heard of it and some large percentage have probably already pre-ordered it. The extensive previews ARE the advertising. This ad is just a reminder.

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