One week after Nintendo changed the Revolution code-name to Wii, the Joystiq staff sounds off:- James Ransom-Wiley: "Not sure if anyone else has made the connection ... but the name brings to mind the disposal of urine from the body - an action that's often referred to as 'Number 1.' Is this Nintendo's clever way of joining the next-gen pissing contest?"
- Ross Miller: "Speaking of Apple, my theory is that Nintendo marketing executives were suffering from some form of dyslexia (oraphasia) and were trying to copy Apple's style. One person said "why not?," to which another replied "I'll tell you why... iWhy," which was later changed to "iWi" since palindromes are catchy. Then the dyslexia kicked in and someone wrote down "Wii," which was sent to the Nintendo executives who had been enjoying a party honoring the DS sales with some high-grade cannabis and Hennessey. A drunk Miyamoto, looking at the word, laughed and shouting "wiiiiii!" as he danced off. Everyone in the room thought this was an approval, and so they ran with it that very morning. Miyamoto is still recovering from his hangover, which should last until E3."
- Christopher Grant: "One would have to assume that a small army of marketing and branding experts sat on this egg for months, giving it all the love and warmth it needed, taking all this extra time to focus-test the name to death. Undoubtedly, it's already been kid-tested, mother-approved. I'd like to think we'll all get used to it, like the iPod, or that dog whose name you thought would never stick; however, my fear is that despite replacing the lunchbox design with something iSexy, Nintendo may have just sat itself at the kid's table again."
- Vladimir Cole: "This name will be in marketing textbooks for years to come as a case study on what not to do. Never has there been so much negative publicity surrounding a name. Nintendo's DS did hasten Gizmondo's departure from this world, but Nintendo shouldn't have looted the Gizmondo corpse of the Most Awful CE Product Name of All Time" championship belt."
- Blake Snow: "Really taken back at first, but since being announced last Thursday, it's grown on me. Too crazy not to take it seriously."
- Jennie Lees: "I'm still giggling. I think that's a good thing."
- Conrad Quilty-Harper: "First thing worth saying is that I'm over Wii, as a tool for making funny sentences that is (e.g. I'm bursting for a Wii!). However, I'm still not entirely sure about how effective the brand name will be for Nintendo. They've certainly generated a lot of -- some say negative -- press, but that's only because the people reporting on Wii are tech/games journalists. I think the fact that the name annoys these type of people is a good thing, even if it does mean that Nintendo has to sacrifice hardcore sales (isn't this what they wanted to do all along?). In summary: a good way to target the casual/non-gaming audience but goddamn alienating for the hardcore gaming demographic."
- Dan Choi: "Actually, the first thing I thought of when I heard the name was a certain promising young female golfer by the name of Michelle Wie. So I guess Nintendo's riding on the coattails of the next golfing phenom?"












(Page 1) Reader Comments
Paul Gale
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http://www.xgaming.com/newsletter/Nintendo-Wii-Conclusion.shtml
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There's no such thing as bad publicity. The enthusist press and its loyal readers are becoming an increasingly smaller part of the video game market.
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After hearing about the tennis game from the Time article and how the tentative name for the title was "Wii Tennis", I came to like it even more. Usually when people refer to a title for the Wii they would think Mario Wii, or Madden Wii. Maybe it's just me but having the name Wii come before the title sounds pretty catchy. Wii Tennis, Wii Mario, Wii Madden, Wii Baseball or whatevers. A slogan could be "Wii play." or "Wii game" (I admit it sounds kind of like ebonics). A friend also suggested a while ago that when Nintendo makes a sports game for example, that they just call it by the sports name like "Baseball" or "Golf". Like the old NES sports game titles. It's definitely simple, which seems to be Nintendo's strategy. Now instead of "Baseball" for the Wii, it's "Wii Baseball" much simpler. I can't speak for everyone, it doesn't sound completely normal, but I can dig something like that.
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Patently false.
You don't see James Frey doing any more book tours do you? The Smoking Gun does a little bad publicity for him, and it costs him a seven figure book deal.
Vanilla Ice isn't doing much these days, either.
There most certainly IS such a thing as bad publicity.
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I never have disliked the name, nor do I like it. It's an odd choice that I think Nintendo seemed to have gone slightly overboard with their newly adopted philosophy. Whilst it has a good meaning behind it, if it takes about 150 words to explain the significance of it, that's when you've gone a little too deep.
As long as the machine is as innovative as it says it is, I'm all for it.
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"Man I cant Wait Untill M$ Buys Nintendo"
Just because Microsoft likes to buy out developers left and right doesn't mean they'd buy Nintendo...
And Nintendo is definitely not interested in selling. Heck, they don't even have stock in America, so they can't be bought that way.
Or are you just assuming that Wii will bomb so horribly (think Virtual Boy level of bombing) that Nintendo would sell out? That's a pretty extreme assumption to make...
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most "likely" made the same jokes in their offices.
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Hmmm, what has Milli Vanilli been up to lately?
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Doesnt mean Microsoft will try again, but that also doesnt mean they wont (eventhough the chances of that are next to nil).
As for the name, I love it. It makes me happy when i think about playing with my wii! Also when I want to invite friends over to play with my wii! did i mention that my wii is motion sensitive? AND four people can play with my Wii at once!
I dont think ill ever get tired of those.
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Actually, one of them committed suicide. Probably not what you were going for when you referred to them.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure that's an exaggeration of an off-hand statement Bill Gates made about how he would gladly talk to Nintendo about a buy-out.
You mind offering a source for your insider knowledge?
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It's like crack or speed or ecstacy which also share a few more things in common with wii than we expected.
Being an analyst I analyse that Nintendo brand Wii will be 480x more addictive than crystal meth. I'm getting the idea of this from the review from time magazine where the reviewer states "At the end, I don't so much put the controller down as
have it pried from my hands".
Just thinking of a profesional reviewer having a controller pried from his hands seems very funny to me.
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Nintend Entertainment System - Self explanitory
Super Nintendo - A superfied version of the previous console
N64 - 64 bits
Gamecube - Self explanitory
GameBoy - Also self explanitory
GameBoy Advance - An upgrade of the previous GameBoy
Nintendo DS - Dual screen, Developers System.
"G-Beam" was on a site I read as a registered Nintendo name set for the 'Revolution', which I think would've been an awesome name. 1 because it sounds wicked, and 2 because it refers to a key part of the consoles uniqueness.
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And who fucking cares what it's called Wii? Seriously, if you guys care so much, then don't buy it. Stop fucking crying about it "WHA WHA IT'S NAMED AFTER PISS!". I was sick of all the urine jokes the day the name was revealed. And only americans can make jokes like that, because most of you are childish little kids. Grow the fuck up!
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how about you just ignore all of the things that annoy you and be happy with your own life and purchases. if someone wants to make a joke, who cares? how does it hurt you?
BTW- the name is horrible, but I buy game systems for games, not what they are called.
Cheers!
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Suck my tiny yellow balls. Arsehole.
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I really hope you guys make this a tradition. I mean let's all hope we see news/articles like:
A month later: Joystiq reacts to Wii naming
Six months later: Joystiq reacts to Wii naming
A year later: Joystiq reacts to Wii naming
A decade later: Joystiq reacts to Wii naming
Get over it already.
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Cheers!
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Wii = WiFi Internet Infrastructure
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Now on your knees...
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wii and the ipad is trash without good new interesting games and series ,so im totally zero interested in the thing right now.
shaka.
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I think you should play less games and pay more attention when they teach you English at school.
And what is this about Wii not having anything "interesting"? The controller is interesting. The download service is interesting. The entire concept is pretty darn interesting.
P.S. Using a "Z" instead of the "S" in "Games" does not a cool guy make.
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Eventually this name thing should become a non-issue
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And to #7. Microsoft will never "buy Nintendo." Trust me. Now go play Call of Duty on your 360 or something.
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The difference being criminal publicity or at the very least bad publicity due to a breaking of common trust of the public. This is a name change people, and in this case there is no such thing as bad publicity. However if Iwata lost it at E3 and beat someone to death with a Wiimote, that would bad publicity. Do you see the difference now?
Something is bound to get more press if the writer's don't like it. For every article written, someone else will find out about it and maybe they will like it, or at least be indifferent to the name and be interested in the system. In this case the bad press will help get the word out. Might hurt them with the cool kids, but that's not who they're trying to attract.
A strong brand is a direct result of trust in the product amongst other factors. It's important to relaize that a lot of people who despise the name have gone on to say that they still TRUST that the games will be great and the interface phenominal. That's due to their history with Nintendo. As a result I will by a Wii at launch. As a result of my history with the PS2 I will wait for the initial bugs to be worked out of the PS3 before I buy one of those. Having to buy two PS2's taught me to wait, but I never had a problem with a Nintendo product. It all comes down to trust. That's why this negative publicity is not all that negative.
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I just want to say that, in my personal opinion, I'm not so sure hitting that target audience is a good thing if it costs you the entire hardcore gaming community to do so. What I mean by that is, look at the Gamecube. I don't feel that it was targeted to hardcore gamers at all...and look where it stands today. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great to have a system kids can play. I'm no kid anymore, but now and again I don't mind playing a good Zelda or Mario title, if for nothing else than old time's sake. And I also am well aware that Nintendo isn't competing with PS3 and X360. But they really weren't competing with Xbox and PS2 if you look at the broad scope. And in the end, IN MY OPINION ONLY, it didn't pay off for them. The Xbox 360 had a very high attach rate at launch, as the PS3 will undoubtedly have as well. However, I don't see that happening for Nintendo. Parents will buy the system mainly for the virtual console. And while Nintendo stands to make some good money off of downloads no doubt, it's going to cost them sales on Wii titles IN MY OPINION. When "Revolution" was the name, I was intent on getting the new Nintendo because I thought they would "revolutionize" things from the way they were with the Gamecube and offer something for the everyday gamer to enjoy, like new all-original titles (Yes, I know. Red Steel looks really good. But how many of those kinds of titles will we ACTUALLY see? Not how many are we told there will be, but how many originals will actually appear in stores?) and good ports of PS3/X360 games using the new controller. But with "Wii" as the name, I have to wonder, did Nintendo only ditch the name Revolution, or are they ditching the whole idea BEHIND what once was the Revolution? Now instead of buying a console at launch, I'm going to wait a few months and see what they can offer up. If they're going to target solely the younger audience one more time, then I'm not going to purchase their product, no matter how much I may enjoy Nintendo's high-quality hardware. My Gamecube wound up collecting dust because of that very reason: now and again, a game would come out that interested me. But for the most part, I played my Xbox.
I'm hoping Nintendo will have success with the Wii, even under it's somewhat unconventional name. And I'm sure they will. The only question is, will it be enough success for them? Only time will tell us that. But one thing's for sure. Despite the flashy appearance of the Wii, Nintendo has once again indeed placed themselves in league with the kids. And until they show me that the Wii is going to be more than a Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario baseball, Mario machine, I'm forced to hold off on a purchase, even with the virtual console capabilities. Just my two cents and my OPINION.
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And you know what, noone giggled. Noone pointed a finger at me and yelled "HE SAID URINE". You know why? Because this is the real world, and real people don't care.
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I know you don't feel that the Gamecube did well for Nintendo. I'd like to disagree to a degree. I don't think it did as well as they would have likes and it particularly didn't do well for third-party developers but overall it only came in third by a small margin. While that margin is much higher in North America and the system is almost dead now in terms of support and development, it was still very profitable for Nintendo. Much of that was due not because they didn't target the hardcore gamers, but because they didn't clearly target anyone. If they had specifically targetted non-gamers or the hardcore or the kids or whoever, there would have been a clear focus for themselves and developers. I think the remote shows that they figured that out. It's going to be more difficult for a developer to just port a game over to the console now so they can try and focus it towards the types of games they'd like to see on it. This would normally lead to a hug drop-off in games, but they dropped the cost of development to near-ridiculous levels for next-gen games by keeping the system Standard Definition, keeping Gamecube architecture and selling dev kits for such a low cost. This is important because it now would probably cost more to port than to redevelop for the console. If they can keep games fun and challenging while making the control itself easy, they can bring in disaffected gamers and non-gamers (a larger market than hardcore gamers) while still pleasing longtime fans. They wil, of course, lose some people like yourself but I am willing to bet that they can bring in more than they lose.
Add to that the number of people that will pick up the Wii as a second console because it offers a totally different experience. Current-gen consoles really all offer the same thing in terms of gameplay, but the games are difference. Next-gen the difference will be the in how we play the games not which games we play.
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I wish I got more responses like yours that I can actually read and not feel like it's a personal attack. Well said.
As far as me not purchasing the Wii: I already have an Xbox 360, so it's probable that I will purchase the Wii as a secondary unit, like many others no doubt, just as you said. But before I do, I'd just like to see a few original ideas implemented. If Nintendo can launch the Wii with three to four good titles that make good use of the Wii-mote, don't make it feel like a gimmick, and don't make me feel like a total idiot for playing, then I just might be there at launch or soon after to pick one up.
As far as the Gamecube goes, yes, it was third by a small margin. I found it surprising, however, that an established company such as Nintendo would finish third to a company diving into games for the first time (Microsoft). Now, I'm not trying to say "Oh look, MS did so much better.", I'm simply saying that I found it surprising. But there's no doubt, and it's nearly beyond contestation, that Nintendo is brand choice for parents and kids alike, so they did enjoy their share of success with the 'Cube.
All said, time will tell how successfully Nintendo integrates the Wii-mote into games. If the DS is any indication, I think we will see some very innovative things happening. I just hope that we see some titles on the Wii for the older crowd. I'm basically looking for something I can play in between rounds of Battlefield 2: Modern Combat on 360 that's fun, easy to play but challenging, and is targeted at least somewhat at people my age (mid-twenties). I guess we'll see, but for now, the Wii is still very much a probable purchase at some point for myself as a secondary unit. I don't think, however, I would make it my only console, as I do enjoy the 360. Guess that's the real perk here: If the Wii costs less than 360/PS3, which it almost definitly will, then it does become affordable as a secondary system. Heck, I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to play a game of interactive baseball on the Wii, and then turn around and play Condemned or Battfield 2 on 360. Guess we'll see what shakes out.
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Good one guys...really thought about marketing on this one, didntcha.
/sarcasm
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If anything, the plebes "out there" are probably going to laugh even harder at this name than the hardcore gamers will.
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everyone to stay worked up about a name.
As for the Wii, I heard an interesting theory. Look at your hand; what do your fingers spell?
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Anyway, the name Wii will scare not the hardcore gamer, but the kids that want to feel like adults, insecure adults, or people that are offended or disgusted by "Wii".
They should have named it the "n!".
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