The real PlayStation 3 controller revealed

Sony are utter numnuts.


I've forced myself to be nuetral this generation, and this is what happens?
I wouldn't mind so much if Sony spent the effort and brainpower ADAPTING the technology.

You can't just shove motion sensors into anything... How will yaw and pitch work when both of your hands are forced together by a block controller? Two parralel wrists can't work that way!
How can that be applicable to the functionality of the ergonomics?

Nice one Sony.
You're marketting the cowards who are too frightened to try out the Wii controller.

Go back to sound systems where no one cared if you were pricks.
Gamers like innovation and well-made games. We don't give two hoots about your pathetic marketting ploys and pirate like tactics.

my last post didn't go through which makes you guys lucky.

keep talking shit about sony because you can't afford a ps3.

first off, it's almost half the price of a regular blu ray disc player (which it plays in ADDITION to playing games that will look better and play better than 360) i've read articles stating the system is equivalent to having 2 top of the line graphics cards in your computer. i don't know a LOT about computer parts, but i'm willing to bet 2 of those costs more than $600. you're getting a 60 gb hard drive too - there's another 100 bucks. technology adds up VERY quickly. parts are expensive, and so the ps3 is expensive. you kids don't think.

the wii will have an entire different market than the ps3 and 360 - this is obviously what nintendo was going for. they're almost non-competitive. ps3 and 360 take on a more serious gaming role with their graphics and online play, while nintendo is trying to make games fundamentally "fun" again.

and STOP claiming that sony ripped off nintendo with their controller. the new ps3 controller is NOTHING like the wii controller. if you had any understanding of either system, you'd know this. claiming they stole that technology is like claiming that nintendo stole graphics instead of using just line-command usage in games (like DOS - that'd make a sick game, right? not.) analog buttons, shoulder buttons, and motion sensing are not new technologies. analog and shoulder buttons should be expected. nintendo did not invent these technologies, so stop bitching and acting like nintendo is some all-knowing video game god. granted, i LOVE nintendo - in my opinion the super nintendo is the best system ever made, but you people take this shit way too far and it pisses me off. i'm buying a ps3 because it's going to be worth it, by far. not just for the amazing graphics, not for the motion sensing controller at ALL, or the online play, but for the combination of EVERYTHING it offers. that's why it'll be the best - it's the best rounded (and most powerful, straight up).

and DON'T even act like xbox live is some huge intuitive, AMAZING invention. first off, xbox live SUCKS. i play halo 2 with my friend and we get consistently matched up with level 30+s. he's a level 22. sick. way to go bungie and microsoft, you can't recognize whether or not two numbers are equal, or even within 3 of each other.

online gaming has been around way before xbox live, and it was done way better before xbox live. i've played a 360 and they're pretty much garbage. they offer less than ps3 - weaker hardware and still a shitty online interface. it's software upgradeability might save it, but microsoft tends to be lazy with that stuff. (when was the last halo 2 update..?)

lastly, games. you guys are complaining about LAUNCH titles for ps3. they're LAUNCH TITLES for god's sake. no one expects the system's best games to come out right when the system does. n64 was the only system able to do that with mario 64. you guys are getting hyped about second-wave 360 games and talking shit about ps3 launch titles like they should be treated equally. you guys are idiots.

go complain more because i'm sure it's going to change sony's ideologies AND the price of the ps3. you're all ignorant and probably just plain scared that the ps3 will dominate..

ive listened to all your comments until i wrote this so here it goes. I am or at least was sony fanboy. and now i almost hate sony for what they did.
The boomerang was to be more comfortable than other controllers because it was easier on the wrists
(the picture made it look to big than it really was)

You must realize that tthis shity tilt thing came at a pirce for those of u that support it. Thats right they acually removed the fucking force feed back just to add a tilt function in the damn controller which wont even be used in maney of the games and will be crappy if they do.

So no more force feed back for the sony. Id be happy with the boomerang. If they at least gave u the option to buy a different controller insteas of them all being gay ass tilt shit. The pricing yea its gay but what did u expect from high end technology and huge hard disk.

Yes Sony steals shit i see that and i also see that this tilt thing isnt that new but u must realize that the only reason sony pulled this crap was because of nintendos new controller thats fucking why they changed the boomerang other wise it would have always had tilt in the new ps3 concept.

Basically i was thinking of getting a pre order for this ps3 but now i wanna wait (like some of u said) and see sony suffer and then buy while cheep. As i said i am a sony fan boy but a pissed off sony fanboy (gay term should be changed)

and here is this comments first annual cheap shot

: by the way sony the 4 d? i dont mean to be a nerd but the fourth dimension is fucking TIME u ass wipes.
And here i thought asians were supposed to be smart. :/

Awesome!! Sony's lack of originality and corporate espionage once again allows it to rise to the top of the gaming field!!

Sony fanboys rule!! God is dead!!

I'm still getting a Wii. Frankly, it's actually hard for me to believe Sony made the controller motion sensitive. Although it's certainly a Sony-esque thing to rehash an old outdated, non-ergonomic controller (the gamecube one was more comfortable), it's not like them to steal from nintendo. I always knew that Sony was heartless, idealess, and bent only on profits obtained from overcharging for their products, but this is really surprising. Btw, I'm going to look for some documented proof of the motion sensitive ps3. I'll post if I find anything new.

Crap! It's true! That's got to be the worst business ethics I've heard of in my life, but on the other hand, just cuz you can tilt the PS3 controller doesn't mean it will be a virtual sword, bow aimer, gun, bat or tennis racket like the Wii controller. This doesn't really steal much from Nintendo, but still, screw you Sony for stealing ideas. Stick to your old idea: the enormous batarang w/ buttons. That was the least functional controller since the original Xbox one, but at least it was original.

Alright, here we go, #150. Please keep your hands and feet inside at all times until the statement-by-statement rebuttal/asskicking comes to a complete stop.

"keep talking shit about sony because you can't afford a ps3."
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, maybe, more than one person in this discussion can afford the PS3. I can afford the PS3, and I still hate it. Regardless, that's a terrible argument. I can't afford a KIA Spectra, but I know a shitty automobile when I see one.

"first off, it's almost half the price of a regular blu ray disc player [...] you kids don't think."
Most of us understand that yes, the PS3 incorporates a lot of expensive technology. No, that doesn't make it good. And your articles comparing the PS3 to a pair of 7800 SLI cards? That's all well and good, considering the console isn't out yet, but you have to remember that two 7800s in SLI setup does not equal two times the performance of one 7800. Read up on it, I'm sure with your Google skills, you'll pull up a few good, unbiased articles articles.

"[...]they're almost non-competitive. ps3 and 360 take on a more serious gaming role with their graphics and online play, while nintendo is trying to make games fundamentally "fun" again."
I'm not going to waste my time on this. The "[Xbox/PS] is for serious games" argument has been beaten to death. Don't use it.

"and STOP claiming that sony ripped off nintendo with their controller. the new ps3 controller is NOTHING like the wii controller. if you had any understanding of either system, you'd know this."
Hey, remember when Sony announced their DualShock3 back in the summer (with a brand-new boomerang design)? And then Nintendo announced their new wireless, motion-sensing, lightgun-esque, accelerometer-functional Wiimote? And then a month before E3, Sony ran to the Warhawk guys, told them to implement gyroscope functionality, and duct-taped a tilt sensor to the underside of a DualShock2? And that other time when, except for memory cards and optical discs, Nintendo started every single mainstream console standard?

"and DON'T even act like xbox live is some huge intuitive, AMAZING invention. first off, xbox live SUCKS. i play halo 2 with my friend and we get consistently matched up with level 30+s. he's a level 22. sick. way to go bungie and microsoft, you can't recognize whether or not two numbers are equal, or even within 3 of each other."
Yeah, because the logical thing by which to rate an online service is a third-party matchmaking algorith, and NOT a sophisticated framework to allow for not only a persistent online identity with a list of friends, but also voice communication, text chat, game downloads, and automatic game updates. /troutslap

"online gaming has been around way before xbox live, and it was done way better before xbox live. i've played a 360 and they're pretty much garbage. they offer less than ps3 - weaker hardware and still a shitty online interface. it's software upgradeability might save it, but microsoft tends to be lazy with that stuff. (when was the last halo 2 update..?)"
No way! People played games on the internet BEFORE Xbox live?! *dies*
No shit, Sherlock. We're on the Internet right now, we're not stupid. Xbox Live might not have been the first online console-based service, but it's far and away the best of them all. And the shitty online interface? It's still better than Sony's barely-beyond-a-DOS-interface PlayOnline software.

Hmm... And what could POSSIBLY be causing the lack of Halo 2 updates? I can't imagine Bungie is working on anything else... *slowly, slowly rolls eyes*

"lastly, games. [...] no one expects the system's best games to come out right when the system does. [...]"
I think we're just pissed about how Sony tried to pawn off their prerendered footage as real-time gameplay at E3'05. Yes, it was all prerendered. And now what do they have to show for it? It's the same stunt they pulled back when they were pushing the PS2's launch. You know, Toy Story-quality realtime graphics, an unparalleled launch lineup... Yeah, DOA2 was a real polygon-pusher.

All Sony is showing is a lack of respect for the gaming community as a whole, and people are finally speaking up against them.

"you're all ignorant and probably just plain scared that the ps3 will dominate.."
Here, just for you, I'm gonna link you to the definition of the word "irony". http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony

Knock yourself out.

Please.

So this means that Sony will be recycling the controller designed for them for the original Nintendo Playstation yet again? Nad not only that, but attempting to steal some of Big N's latest features to try and make it look "original?" And did anyone think its funny that Sony said "we took out rumble because it interfered with the motion sensitivity... ZOMG WE'RE SONY AND WE SAY IT CAN'T BE DONE!" when later at the Nintendo booth Big N says "oh yeah, the wii-mote had rumble and a speaker in it. No problem, bitches."

And now I am getting a bit irritated. Earlier I mentioned that their release price is way too high and one of the reasons I dont buy a console, after which someone felt the need to point out that the PS3 is so much more than a gaming console.

ITS STILL A FRIGGIN GAME CONSOLE! I dont care about bull like watching DVDmovies, or having something like a blu-ray player. If I buy myself a (wow, lets look at that name so more) "a gaming console" I want to do just that with it: gaming! Not things like having a complete multimedia centre, thats where my PC butts in, a device which is meant to be capable of doing a lot of different things.

"ps3 and 360 take on a more serious gaming role with their graphics and online play, while nintendo is trying to make games fundamentally "fun" again".
This is the biggest bull I heard so far. How can you still call a game a game when its ridden with movies, cutscenes and other crap that mar the gameplay (yes, the same thing a lot of PS2 titles suffer from)? A game is meant to be fun, it isnt all about graphics. And thats exactly another thing where sony is a general turnoff for me, the lack of games that actually be considered just that: games.

And thats where nintendo comes in. In these past years (with the release of PSP and DS) I have come to realize something. Sony is more for the people trying to look cool, while nintendo is for people who actually want to have fun playing a game the way games are supposed to be.

Dont get me wrong, as a future gamedeveloper I have always considered myself neutral, looking for good gaming experiences, no matter the platform. I dont mind sony ripping of Nintendo, since it already has happened so much and there is no way to stop it it seems. It may be considered low by a lot of people, but in the end all that matters is the game. And thats exactly where sony becomes a gigantic turn off for me.

ok number 154 u acually must understand that gay ass sony only came out with their tilt controler as a reaction to nintendoes. dont think that the copying is all that pisses me off but i would like to ask u all. WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A CRAPY 6-DEG. TILT CONTROLER (WITCH WOULDNT WORK GOOD WITH BARELY ANY GAMES) WITH NO RUMBLE. OR WOULD U RATHER HAVE THE RUMBLE. ask yourselves that before u keep defending sony about their decisions and who came up with what first and so on.

Just for your information guys i do like sony and ive bought both of their counsols. But sometimes u just want a comapny to show some sportsmenship, and fairness. I respect nintendo out of all these companies and funny enough the only nintendo product i ever bought from them was a gba and a n-64. They deserve better respect than sony does. All sony did was piss me off and acually made me want a ps3 less. by the way I CAN AFFORD IT.

So the boomerang thing is also not as big as it looks as u can see the hand looks giant too its just a zoomed up picture thats all and its acually more comfortable than their origional (old) dual shock controller.

Alright last test. do this for me guys take your arm and make it straight. keep your wrists perfectly straight and dont bend them. Now bend your elbows so that your hands are close to eachother (like holding a invisable controler) thats how the boomerang would feel. it would put less stress on your wrists. awsome huh?
now try holding a dual sock and see how u must bend your wrists to hold it. now you know :)

for all you who pin sony as a theif:

"As Phil Harrison has said in his interviews, the motion sensing technology for the PS3 controller has been in the planning stages for many years. However, Sony felt now was the right time to introduce it because the technology had developed to a suitable level."

apparently they had this in R&D for years now.

retard the only reason they released it was as a reaction to nintendos thats why the "boomerang" controler was suddently replaced after nintendo released their controler. im not saying sony's a thief im saying they are retarded. first reason is because now that they used this idea they pissed off all their fans witch doesnt help sales like they were planning that it would. and second, thanks to the fucking tilt ability witch was added there will be no more rumble (vibration in the controler). how gay is that. and the dual shock is getting old as a bitch i liked their new boomerang design.

Wow. People get really worked up over this stuff, don't they? A lot of valid points were brought up here. Yes, Sony has copied ideas. Yes, Nintendo is innovative. Yes, Microsoft sort of seems like the middle child here, which no one remembers except in passing, or when we need something it's good at. Yes, some black families are on wellfare (Why the hell that matters, I'll never know), but come on people, be realistic, here.

Each and every system has something to offer that the other systems don't. Each system is going to give us a unique experience. It'll be a pain in the ass playing Resident Evil Seventy Two on the Wii, just like it's going to be a bitch to play Starfox: Andros, At it Again on the Playstation 3. Probably why the two will not even get in each other's way.

People who limit themselves to one console are missing out on a great gaming experience.

when i heard that the ps3 controller was going to have motion sensing technology i blody flipped. When sony released the information about the controller, it looked like a boomerang and there was absolutely NO mentioning of motion sensor of any sort. Since nintendo revealed their controller the people of sony have probably tried to put this motion sensor tech. into their boomerang controller but failed because of its shape, and so decided to revert back to the older style so the motion sensing could fit. Bloody rip-off i tell ya,
Being a nintendo and a sony fan i have always liked the two companies, sony because of their popularity and games (gran turismo 4), and nintendo because of its innovation (nintendo ds) and games for both ds and gamecube(metroid prime hunters, super smash bros. melee). sony was pushing their luck incorporating wifi into the PSP after DS was released with it, and as far as i know there are absolutely no psp games that can be played against others over the internet.
I will not be buying the ps3 for a long time. price tag is too big, and the wii is just better, and cheaper in price, full stop.

Sony is such a copy of nintendo. i still love my ps2 though with the ultimate game of all time "TIMESPLITTERS FUTURE PERFECT"
I think they should make something new and not copy off other things. I'm gettin a wii when it comes out! it's gonna be under £200 in england. (i'm only gessin from the american price).

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As a PlayStation fan, I would like to remind ppl that Sony did make some very big advances in gaming. One of them being 3D graphics, another being the first 32 bit system, and also the CD drive on a system that wasnt a failed add on. Even then it was Sony that developed it first, it was gonna be put on the SNES but then Sony and Nintendo fell out. Personally i welcome sticking with the dualshock, im familiar with it as the first console i ever had was the Playstation, then i got a PS2 and look what nintendo do, they change the controller for every new console, people just get used to it and then they release another one. Plus, the Game Cube pad was really shite compared to the PS2 and XBox, and for me i want to buy a console thats marketed on its power and games, not how i can prance around my room waving a piece of plastic and generally looking like a prick. I prefer to sit down and play a football or racing game where the graphics are spot on, the cars look like the ones on the road and the players look realistic. So for me its the 360 or PS3 all the way, not sure at the moment, £400 does eem a bit steep

"So Sony has stolen from Nintendo:

-Shoulder buttons
-Analog control
-Force Feedback
-Motion sensing

Am I missing anything else"

wireless controllers too. Wavebird came first!

Ok... here's wat i think... if i need to use motion detection to controll my game... it would only be a good idea if i had 1 of those virtual reality headset things that could play ps3 games... b/c if i have to turn around and shoot a guy behind me in socam or something... its hard since i would need to turn away from the tv, which would guarentee my aim woulkd be way off and i would die, i prefer to just turn around using the anolge stick or the d pad like i always have... but it would be nice to have a touchscreen controller, to be able to customize where the buttons r, and have more control of how it feels, y dont they just do that... but then again, that would also be stealing from nintendo(nintendo ds)... i have the ds, and the controls r awsome, but i wish they had gta for it, then it would be a kickass sys!!

o, and anywhere from $500 to $600 for a ps2 is bullshit...f u sony, i like the sys, the games... but i think i'll go to xbox this time, i regretted the ps2 b/c it had inferior graphics, and halo kicks ass by the way...they both have the same games, even xbox has gta...but xbox looks and i think works better...i got ps2 b/c i was used to the controls, and i could play ps1 games... not this time, i will not get sony again, i will get the xbox360... and evantually since it's so cheap, i'll also get the Wii(so i can download n-64 games...) n64 was probably the best sys ever made as far as i'm concerned.

Ok... also about the controller...motion sensors r a bad idea unless u have tv screens on either side of u, and 1 in back... u would need like a surround tv sys if u will...1 problem, it would cost more than any plasma costs now...motion sensors r a good idea, but ahead of thier time, give them a decade, motion sensors will be huge... u need 1 thing, surround tv, or its not only pointless, but a hassel...


another thing...sony needs a new controller, its been 11 years w/the same damn thing...i think it should be more of a touchscreen control... thats stealing from the ds, but i enjoy the ds controls, they could be improved a bit, but they kick ass!!they just need to eliminate buttons, make them touchscreens so u can change wat button it is, which would give u full customization over the controlls, wouldnt that kick ass??

o... and ps1 wasnt the 1st sys to have a cd in it... if i'm not mistaken, it was a system that failed miserably b/c no1 would buy it since it looked like a tiolet seat(which was hilarious, i remember seeing it in a gamer's magazine)...if some1 could give me the name, i would appreciate it... the boomerang controller was original though, i wish they would stick w/that...i dont want the old controller, i'm open to something new.

also... u have to admit 1 thing... sony tries to be the best of both worlds... nintendo and sony, if they merged and combined thier technologies and games into 1 single game system... it would be awsome...

for example... the psp and the nintendo ds both have major drawbacks if u get either 1... but i guarentee if u combined the 2... u'd have a game system that is 5 years ahead of its time... now that would be nice...

but i'm not saying it was right for them to steal nintendo's stuff.

I say support nintendo for innovation!..they're doing it right by always trying to bring something new to the market..if nintendo had better graphics and a larger selection of games they would rule without a doubt, but i respect them for walking their own path. Sony, your outdatet controller is ruining your console. Get rid of the tilt shit or make it better, and redesign the controller at least a bit, i dont want to be playing my new ps3 with a controller design i played with 5 years ago on my ps1. Why the hell did you listen to your own hardcore fans who said: "why fix something that ain't broken". You should be listening to other players and try to win them over as well as keeping the hardcore fans happy. Shouldn't be hard to do at all. Considering GCN had a better controller, xbox had a better controller, and 360 has a better controller, not to mention wii who's controller system is better than any other gamepad ever exited. And to quote rfruit:

"Sony's pitch and yaw controller is meerly an attempt to steal some of Nintendo's thnder, but it will in no way approach what the Wii is attempting."

Correct! So sony, get you'r shit together and launch another controller. I'll gladly take the boomerang with rumble AND perhaps tilt that coul'd be turned on/of in separate sections of a game, or even just the boomerang as you orginally intended it. Anything but the outdatet, good for nothing, dual shock design. Sure, it was fine 10 years ago. Now give me something new that my hands will like. And while you'r at it, give us a redesign of the eyetoy, something like that of which a 3rd party launched for xbox 360 at E3, only that you, and this is the critical part, make it BETTER. I want something worthy of the ps3 hardware.

BTW: I will buy the Wii console to support nintendo, i just hope they can come up with some new exiting games as well.

And also, about xboxlive; please, consept was almost already there, and would have been developed further anyway. So basically 360 is the console you DONT want to spend money on, exept for halo 3 offcourse:) Which better be launched on pc! Within 3 years!

THATS THE SAME DAMN CONTROLER OF THE PS2 . WHAT THE HELL IS SONY DOING THE PS3 IS AND EMBARRASMENT . NINTEDO WII DESTROY THE PS3 ON THE E3 EVENT . AND NOW THERE PUTTING THIS BULLSHIT CONTROLER OUT WHICH IS THE EXACT REPLICA OF THE PS2 CONTROLER AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE