Windows Vista is bad news for bad boys

During a quick tour of the Windows Vista game features, our guide briefly demonstrated a feature of Windows Vista that's bad news for bad little boys. Parents will be able to block access to the computer during certain hours of the day on certain days of the week, as shown in the screenshot above (note: this is not a final version of the interface). As advocates of responsible parenting, we like to see software that gives parents tools that help them feel that gaming is something controllable, not a threat to proper upbringing.
With Vista, parents will have more control over their kids' computer use, but there are a few holes in the system's design:
- Kids often learn more about computer management than parents. They'll probably be the "administrators" of the computer, in most households. Too few parents realize that technical savvy is a prerequisite of good parenting in this internet age.
- The controls lack per-application granularity. As shown in this interface, blocking the computer for an hour blocks use of the entire computer. All a cunning child needs to do is claim that he's going to work on a book report to gain access to the computer, then swap over to a recreational activity once mom and dad stop watching. This control should be specified per application that is installed.
- The controls lack seasonality. Parents might want to specify different lock-out hours during the summer months (when they feel kids should be outside, perhaps), and they might want to specify, say, full access every other Friday.
There's no easy solution. Adding such granularity would increase the complexity of the system, and that complexity would turn some users away.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
iceatcs @ May 10th 2006 9:39PM
Brilliant idea. My annoy son normally like to play the game all night, even maybe he really looking at porn. Now I can force him away from my tower.
Grendel711 @ May 10th 2006 9:41PM
Pretty nifty.
Jor @ May 10th 2006 9:49PM
I'm sure you like to watch porn too along with your son
AndrewNeo @ May 10th 2006 10:11PM
Seasonality? Can't the parents go in and -change- the settings for the winter months?
Otherwise, #1 is a completely valid point, but that's the parents' fault, not Microsoft's.
#2 is kind of unavoidable. Parents can disable certain games entirely. If someone (or Joystiq) wants I can go into the interface and upload a whole bunch of screenshots. Am a beta tester.
mDuo13 @ May 10th 2006 10:15PM
I know that not everyone is this ingenious, but the mother of a friend of mine tried to limit his and his brother's computer time with an external program; he did a quick Google search, opened up his computer, and took the battery out of its internal clock, breaking the timing aspect. I'm sure there will be similar workarounds for anyone who's slightly computer-savvy, and who cares enough to look. I can't see this stopping any determined person over the age of 12.
Aside from how I think trust is a more important aspect than force when it comes to this stuff, but this isn't exactly a blog to discuss what constitutes good parenting.
Josh Warner @ May 10th 2006 10:16PM
Yeah, and once there is per application control the kids just install another copy to a different location, change the name of the install directory, change the name of the game install, hack the Registry (ya know Vista will still have a Registry) so the computer thinks its limiting the game but in reality is limiting Dad's TurboTax program ...
Kids would _easily_ find a way if they had access to the computer. MS actually did this right; just create Jimmy_Games and Jimmy_Study accounts and don't let the kid be the administrator.
Zorblaz @ May 10th 2006 10:33PM
Another option.... disconnect the keyboard and mouse.... or just tell your kid "no"... lol- maybe that's a bit too old fashioned.
Matt @ May 10th 2006 11:01PM
So basically all this is is a ripoff of something Novell has had implemented in their Netware platform for a decade.
Wow.
How..."incredible".
A man of common sense @ May 10th 2006 11:15PM
My thing about this is... "Gaming a counter agent to parenting" WHO BUYS THE GAMES?!?!? WHO I ASK? The parents do, simply don't buy the game, and no problem. If you want to block your child's internet acess, take away the cables for the internet during the night and stow them somewhere... PROBLEM SOLVED, all a kid would have to do is change the time for the computer and a truely savvy kid could change the BIOS clock. The only way to be a good parent in this "internet age" is to simply take control, and if you cannot trust your child enough then obviously you didn't enstill enough values into them before they had acess to the internet. TO say Vista is any sort of solution is HOG WASH. This is rediculous marketing that won't stop anything in the long run. I say put a key logger on your computer to log what your child does... then punish them accordingly with something that will make them regret ever doing it. Case solved. It's called parental guidance.
Finished.Law.School @ May 10th 2006 11:22PM
But is Vista really worth the upgrade? It seems like XP SP3 more than anything else...
mountain_rage @ May 10th 2006 11:27PM
My dad tried to pull this one on me about 6 years back, they never gave me a valid reason as to why, and couldnt defend their decision. The only reason I used the computer was to talk on msn because I wasnt aloud to use the phone, because we only had one phone line. Needless to say I was a teen who was removed his ability to communicate, so I did what any teen with half a brain would do, got a keylogger got the password and dissabled it. Like mentioned in the article it does no good trying to implement security when your kid is the administrator.
Darth Pixel @ May 11th 2006 12:02AM
Now, will Microsoft succeed in releasing Vista. As you may know, their OS division is in complete disarray. They just scrapped 80% of their code base and want you to believe they will rewrite it all before January. That won't happen.
iceatcs @ May 11th 2006 12:16AM
jor @ 3
"I'm sure you like to watch porn too along with your son"
Ooh, that's very dangerous father of you. I don't want to been like Michael Jackson. I'm really happy with my wife. So no thanks
KevinM @ May 11th 2006 12:24AM
Hmm, will be hacked by any kid that finds the admin password and bypasses hisher account.
Shado @ May 11th 2006 1:20AM
#13 iceatcs
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"I'm sure you like to watch porn too along with your son"
Ooh, that's very dangerous father of you. I don't want to been like Michael Jackson. I'm really happy with my wife. So no thanks
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I think that should have been rephrased "I'm sure you like to watch porn, just as your son does"
In other words, most men do enjoy porn occasionally (more for some, of course), so if you do, telling your child that porn is somehow "wrong" can seem quite hypocritical.
Assuming, of course, you are among the majority of men who do watch porn. If not, then there is no issue.
dongle @ May 11th 2006 1:26AM
unix OSes have had a 'games' group for years, and that's much more versatile than this.
David @ May 11th 2006 7:33AM
I am pretty sure Windows XP has something like this already. It does not kick you off the computer, but restricts users to only being able to log on at certain times... Im not going to go searching for it though... I am lazy.
peder @ May 11th 2006 7:51AM
This feature is already in Windows XP. Nothing new here. All you need to do is install the administrator networking package (Admin Tools) from M$ that gives you access to all the hidden features of Windows XP.
I used to use this to mess with people at my old workplace. Restricting access times for their login on the network. It was lovely, muahahaha!
Jared Schwager @ May 11th 2006 8:45AM
This won't have much effect on me, as I don't play any PC games and I'll be heading down the Apple road instead. I'm sick of Microsoft breaking all their promises for Vista. And I don't feel like building a super-computer just to run an operating system.
Eternally Damned @ May 12th 2006 9:55PM
I dont know where i stand really. The only reason i ever used a Mac is because in Grade School, and Junior High all we had was Mac's. I havent touched one since. I have been with Windows, I am kind of tired of it also. I'll let time pass and see how Vista is if i like it i'll get a brand New Computer. Becuase of Vista is why i havent purchased a new box.