Ryan's an idiot. anyone can see that Sony had the worst conference, opinions totally aside. Good toss up between Microsoft and Nintendo.

Libe Goad is stupid. I mean "Microsoft actually showed games", right so I suppose that lengthy 5-10 minute trailer from Nintendo showing Wii games was all an illusion. And the Red Steel and Zelda bits? Course they didn't exist. damn hypnotism.

Thanks for this pointless cutting edge journalism based on a sample size of 4 random guys at E3. Boy I sure am glad I read joystiq for this kind of hard facts journalism.

Nintendo hand's down.

OMG! They didnt all say Nintendo was the best!?!? They are so stupid! (I get paid to say comments like these) I mean cmon...Nintendo is hands down the best (with a d!ck in my mouth). They have the best gameplay (even if I can only do 2 different slashes with my sword), they have the best previous gen graphics (thats one Nintendo can try to say), and cost waaaaaaaay cheaper (a gamecube with a new controller). Isnt there a Wii fanboy? When did Joystiq become the default?

Jesus, two of those guys didn't even see the press conferences. What is this?

Unfortunately, none of the conferences surprised me or impressed me.
It was all very predictable.

I think we will have to wait until E3 07 to know which system has the upper hand.

I also think Sony and Nintendo are going to have a field day at TGS 06.
I was somewhat surprised at the number of playable games they both had available. I don't think Microsoft had that many playable 360 games at E3 05.

While Sony is getting ripped for various (valid) reasons, their playable games were quite impressive and some of the most polished games I have ever seen. 6 months before their launch date, this bodes great things for their launch window.

Everyones saying that it was Nintendo that had the best conference but Microsoft game a close second with Sony as the boring messy one, like usual. They've always had the worst conference but it doesn't stop anything, well, that price announcement might..

I watched all three of the conferences and Sony was distinctly behind the other two. They showed a lot of CG-heavy videos and topped off the sad scene with the "surprise" tech of the Dual Shake.

I hope no one ever forgets Sony's massive lack of any suave or graceful business techniques. Instead of planning and coming to E3 with something original and exciting to present to the consumers, they deliberately added motion sensors to their controller as a cheap "we have it too!" gimmick.

Nintendo showed in-game stuff, no (or very little) CG. That atleast allows me to respect Nintendo as a company. They have the balls to show their product to the masses.

Microsoft had a lot of CG, but the Halo 3 trailer was in-game, and the God of War demo rocked. Microsoft is doing better than expected, especially since their console, the 360, isn't an upcoming one. They managed to keep things exciting, up until Bill Gates rambled on forever about the concept (or whatever it was, I got bored of it).

So I'd say Nintendo > Microsoft > > > > > Sony.

I have watched all 3 events a couple times now. At first I thought nintendo won hands down, but if you include impact both immediate and future expecially regarding, excitement and buzz... Microsoft may inch out Nintendo. However... after watching my boyz... Sony, I've come to realize their time may be passing. I loved nintendo for some many years and then I loved Sony and thought I'd never give them up....

Yeah Yay lets all hate Sony because is so fashion to do it nowadays.

I want mgs4 mario and fable 2.

The best point taken from this post is this: We are all so busy examening every fact, detail, tidbit, grain or even hint that you can easily forget what is happening out there. You know. The real world. Where millions upon millions will know the new Nintendo as Wii and will have never heard of a revolution. Whole countries will buy into the Dual Shake/Tilt story of Sony simply because they never heard of what Nintendo has to offer. And don't forget the people who will hail HALO 3 as the most original mind blowing game ever conceived simply because they have a 360 already and the rest doesn't matter to them. We are all a small albeit very noisy group who like to know stuff when it happens. And the 4 ppl chosen above aren't in that group. Because so is the rest of the world.

*bows*

Man joystiq is getting out of control with the fan boys. Examples:Nintendo fan boy-"Sony Kills babies" I would include others but lazy so no. Anyway of course Sony didn't win. Their press conferences actually are press conferences. Enough said.

Ninty, hands down. Well, one hand down. The other hand is holding a TV remote pretending its a WiiMote.

Unfortunately I have to say Sony. Love them, loathe them, say whatever about there 2 system strategy. But its Sony that?s being talked about the most, especially among the non gaming circles, which is where the dollars driven. Overall though I think all had there strong points and weak as well. Sony showed power and failed in innovation. The opposite for Nintendo and Microsoft, who I think had the weakest showing really should have surprised us a bit more.

I really look forward to TGS 2006 this year. We will see more polish from Sony and Nintendo, showing systems that I have no doubt will have evolved from this years E3. And Microsoft in Japan, well??.

Way to read the question Patrick. The question was "which of the big 3 press conferences (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) impressed you the most?" Not "which is causing the most buzz." Obviously Sony's would cause a great deal of buzz because of the massive price. But impressive? Hardly. Their conference was terrible no matter how you cut it.

didn't we do this already? Nintendo. MS, Sony. People forget that Wii wasn't the only thing that Nintendo showed. DS has a very strong line-up that was overshadowed by the Wii unveiling. Nintendo also gets more cool points because Square/Enix showed them much love and 360 got NOTHING from them. Too many great games in Nintendo's court this E3 across all platforms..

Nintendo - hands down

I fear Nintendo is gonna have a rough time with the nunchuck gameplay. Each game is going to have to have a rather lengthy explination to how the games work because each game could have wildly differnt control mechanics. I'm not saying that its not going to be fun, I am just saying that it is going to be a big hurdle for them to overcome. Then all the attatchments, what is the deal? I highly doubt people are going to keep a differnt attachment for each game, its just too much to have. Instead of simplifying controls they are making them harder. I hope they get there act together by the time it ships cause the conference didn't excite me much.
If the 3 companies were high school kids it would play out like this:

Nintendo: Cool party kid that will do anything for fun
Microsoft: Crazy Jock that feels more violence + guns = more fun.
Sony: Big Poser who's always saying "Me too".


You can flame me till I die, but I am just expressing how I feel.

Patrick, are Sony being talked about most? Why were the media told to get more info from Nintendo than anyone else? Some reporters from the BBC were pretty much told "you can forget the rest, just be at Nintendo's event".

talked about in non-gaming circles? right. Which is why even my non-gaming parents have told friends and the rest of the family about the Wii. Those mini sports games got them. I suspect they got a huge number more too.
Nintendo were right. They have the none gamers interested. The press were told to go to Nintendo, at least MEN, Guardian and BBC reporters.

Looking outside the internet though, I was reading bits about the Nintendo Wii in Computer Active! The Guardian and Live. It's ridiculous how much attention it's getting in the media. Sony seems to be getting nothing, all you hear in publications is blu-ray.

I feel like buying a 360 now. Microsoft delievered. oh and whats with the wanker "it's cool to hate Sony". seriously mate, grow up. Sony had 2 runs at good systems, then the PS3 just became lackluster. It's not cool to hate Sony, it's not anything to hate Sony. Sony just lost something with the PSP. They forgot what their goal is, seemingly.

"Anyway of course Sony didn't win. Their press conferences actually are press conferences. Enough said."

That's just another problem with Sony in this industry. The higher-ups on the front line treat gaming as a business venture, not an entertainment venture. They care nothing about gaming, but rather just waving their proprietary Sony pom-poms in your face.

What college does Ryan go to?

I want to know where I can score the good crack.

To be fair, both Sony and MS suffered from last year's E3. They both had more impact last year. They had a climb down this year BECAUSE of that.

Remember how Nintendo got hell of a smacking from everyone for lacking info on next gen console? Everyone had bashed Nintendo saying, Nintendo has no future. Nintendo is going bankrupt. Nintendo is seeing its last few moments. Nintendo this and that.

Miyamoto was hard pushed about how Nintendo was falling behind, and how Sony was amazing with all the graphics. Miyamoto then insisted Sony was putting on a show for attention seeking.

Do you remember all that?

Fast foward to this E3. I think everything is breaking even. It's not that Sony/MS/Nintendo are better than the others, but to be fair Nintendo has been the only honest player all along. They have been vindicated in this year's E3.

It's tragic for Sony/MS when you think about E3 2005 and E3 2006.

No doubt 360 and PS3 have their goodies. Absolutely no doubt about that. But they did a lot of bluffing which left Nintendo the only good guy in E3 2005. We are beginning to realize that in this E3.

Ryan (college student)
"Initially Sony, but i think the balance has shifted to Microsoft. They're doing some cool stuff."

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I wonder what made him like sony the best: The Wii-volutionary controller, the Live like online scheme, or their entirely new PS3 controller design?

(good thing you didn't dirty a college by attaching their name)

Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, in that order. Even online, the one company that made the most buzz was Nintendo, and most of that has been very positive. Sony on the other hand pretty much contributed to Microsofts success at E3 this year. Lots of people sitting on the fence waiting for the PS3 have said screw it, and will be getting a 360. I'd watch the 360's sales numbers for this and next mont and see if that holds true, I think it will.

But, 'winning' the E3 press conference doesn't ensure a win in the real console wars, neither does 'losing'. Sony will still be strong despite it's price, Microsoft has a LOT to do to even attempt to match that, and Nintendo is off blazing it's own new trail. This fall will be so exciting! There is literally something for everyone on all three consoles! Thank God for competition!

I think Microsoft had the best showing. They have not made up erroneous claims about having this or that, "dual 1080p", "120 fps gaming", "Cell Storage" or "Toy Story Graphics". They were all about business. The press conference was about High-Definition Games and the Xbox Live experience, as well as the Xbox 360 accessories. We saw shots of in-game footage such as Halo 3, Gears of War, Lost Planet: Extreme Condition, Viva Piñata, Madden 2007, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Forza Motorsport? 2, Fable 2, Ninety-Nine-Nights, Blue Dragon,Crackdown,Mass Effect,Too Human, Shadow run, Saints Row,Dead or Alive: Xtreme 2,Sonic The Hedgehog and Alan Wake. We saw accessories such as the Xbox Live Vision Camera, Xbox Live Wireless Headset, and the Xbox 360 Wireless Racing Wheel, and the HD-DVD add-on. We heard about Microsoft stealing Grand Theft Auto IV exclusivity from Sony. Live Anywhere also hinted at the evolution of Online Gaming as it brings Live connectivity to PC users and Xbox Live users alike. Lumines, the smash-hit puzzle game for the PSP, was also shown, coming soon for the Xbox Live Arcade.

The press conference might have shown a lot of things that may not have been a surprise like the "Wii-remote" functionality but it solidified Microsoft's position in challenging the big name Japanese video game console manufacturers. If anything Microsoft summed up it's honest commitment to the betterment of games, constant evolution, connectivity, and the HD experience.

Nintendo also had a good showing with the Wii and the DS. But I don't think it had the impact on me like the Microsoft Press Conference.

The Sony Press Conference was horrible. Watching them throw together the conference with CG clip after CG clip just annoyed the hell out of me. But I watched it til the end. And when they announced the price I just shook my head in pity and called my friends only to hear,"I'm not paying half a grand just to play a game". Oh the "surprise" unveiling of the Dual Shake controller just left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. What happened to the Sony innovation of old. I mean for god sakes we've seen that controller for nearly the past 10 years.

Sony:

Hardware:

Good/bad
+no more boomerang!
+gyroscopic motion is a neat idea?
-?too bad M$ had it 7 years ago and Nintendo has since advanced the tech for the Wii?ouch!
-pricepoint not only goes against everything sony execs have preached was wrong with 360?s sku concept, but they up the ante with SEVERE downgrades in the ?tard pack??read below?
-no hdmi on $500 ps3=no BR movie playback in HD on $500 ps3?consumers, however, STILL are paying to have the useless drive in their console. Eek!
-$500-$600 is TOO DAMN MUCH for most gamers and when you take into account the Wii will be cheap and how M$ are planning on dropping prices quite a bit before long?sony is in a heap of trouble convincing gamers, especially casuals, to pick a ps3 up.
-controller=no rumble features of any kind at all?BOOO!!!!!
-still skeptical of the system not having heating or other issues due to its rather constrained shell, but we?ll see.

Online:

More talk, no walk?go figure?

Software:

+FF13 looks GREAT!
+as does MGS4?but we NEED to see gameplay since sony claimed it?d be at the show?
+heavenly sword looks pretty neat
-warhawk has lost all its hype and coolness
-ZERO games look anywhere near KZ?s target vid from last year
-ZERO surprise game announcements?they even left out gta4 just so M$ could talk about it at their conference!
-nothing unexpected in general at all

Other:

-sony?s continuing arrogant attitude at trade shows is getting on EVERYONE?s nerves. The only game looking remotely close to KZ?s grfx form last year?s cgi fest is ironically?gears of war!
-if yer gonna blab about how great you are, then you better prove it with gameplay footage?there are no ps3 games showing any gameplay visuals that surpass 360?and that?s not mentioning how gears looks noticeably better than any game on ps3 in-game so far.
-no enthusiasm at all at the conference fomr the presenters or the crowd?begging for applause doesn?t count!


M$:

Hardware:

+hd-dvd add on is neat
+camera and other peripherals are pretty cool too
+wireless racing wheel!
+more REALLY neat sounding features to XBL and the XBLM
+the sales update is EXTREMELY impressive and it now looks as if sony will have a LOT of catching up to do!
-no price for hd-dvd drive yet
-no bigger hdd announcement or any price drop info
-wanted a hint about BC update

Online:

+live anywhere will own as will the new types of content coming to the XBLM
+demos online from e3=SWEETNESS
+same with HD trailers!
+xbl is free this week?WOOT!
-had hoped it?d be free all year around tho to combat sony?s free network


Software:

+++one word?DAAAAMMMMMNNNNN!!!!!! (?in a good way tho)
+ok, gta4 was a shocker with tis exclusive dlc, as was halo 3 teaser trailer being so epic, so kudos for surprises?and forza and fable were semi surprises too!
+they showed a few new titles that looked neat (shadowrun)
+They showed 7 mins of pure gameplay of GOW and it owned everything and seems to be extremely fun to boot according to the hands on reports thus far
They showed many games we knew about already and they continue to impress (mass effect, too human, GOW, SC:DA)
+halo 3 teaser was just epic and amazingly well scripted?also nice to know tis all using purely in-game assets in real time with some game engines running behind it even if not in use
+looking like splinter cell:da wont be on ps3 after all
+official confirmation finally of UT2K7 on 360
+A few notable games like FEAR coming to 360 is never a bad thing
-had hoped for a few rumored announcements to come true?a la shenmue 3, kotor 3, jade empire 2, and FF13/DQ to 360?but of these that didn?t happen, a few are likely for x06 and there is still slight chance M$ can convince SE to give us FF/DQ by the tiem TGS rolls around?crosses fingers!
-not many Japanese style games that could pull their weight shown?waits for lost odyssey to be shown someday?
-cant blame them for using cg for forza and fable after last year?but I still wanted to see real-time stuff for fable REALLY bad.


Other:

+well, they showed cool new hardware, some cool new games, had a couple of big game announcements, and showed games we knew about already that look AMAZING (cough*GOW*cough)?plus a few surprises like gta4/halo 3, xbl arcade goodness.
+putting everything on XBLM is GENIUS by definition and totally gets the gamers to feel like we are interacting with the show, especially with a few show floor demos being released like test drive and lost planet. BRILLIANT!
+very well conducted conference with lots of energy
-no j allard ?



As for Wii?

Well, they had the gift of secrecy for the event?we already knew the grfx would suck pretty badly?and they do. Their base concept for gaming is kinda gimmicky, but at the same time it opens up a lot more room for plain fun gaming. The system wont appeal to the masses, but I can see a LOT of ppl who want to experience both hardcore gaming via 360 and light-hearted gaming via Wii to pass over ps3 and get this combo instead?for the same price at that!

For their conference, they showed fugly games that looked really fun despite this. SUPER props to having 27 games on the show floor for playing tho! The only thing ppl need to remember is that the VAST amount of nintendo?s e3 buzz so far is completely attributed to it being new unlike the 360/ps3. the question isnt if it looks neat now, but rather if that interest will hold out after it launches.

~fin

I'm gonna say Microsoft if only because they didn't DISAPPOINT me. Does that mean I like 'em enough to get any XB360 games or an XB360? No way. The only things I found especially good about E3 this year were the releases for the portables---both PSP and DS. Console-wise, this year was in my humble opinion utter lunacy---I mean, c'mon. Microsoft is apparently semi-allying itself with Nintendo.

Mark my words---strange days are upon us.

Nintendo > Microsoft > Sony. I'm unsure how someone could see it otherwise.

Of course, saying something like this is bound to open up charges of being a fanboy, which is probably inescapable in this context I were to couch my claim in weasel words. At the moment though, I think the only thing worse than the fanboys around here are the people who think naming fanboys gives them creditability points. Everyone is a fanboy. No one is a fanboy.

This has gone off-topic left and right. It was a simple question. They didnt even ask why? For me it was Nintendo>Microsoft>Sony. I wont say why or anything else because it wasnt asked. Want to voice your opinions. Go start a thread on a forum.