
In case you've forgotten, Sony's PS3 console will still retail for $600 (60G). Be it old news, whatever, everyone is still talking about it.

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Only... not really.
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Is $600 even that much for all its offering? The 360 was what, 400? Add another harddrive to equal sony's and add the cost of whatever MS is going to charge for its HD-DVD player and i'm sure the prices won't be that different.
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On that subject, I will pay that much for a PS3. Just like I will pay $250 for a Wii, and eventually $400 for a 360. Stop knocking the system for their price, wait till you play it. Geez.
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At $600 the PS3 should accomodate that need with some sort of...port:P(not found on the $500 version)
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How are you helping by posting this?
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At that size, the price/weight ratio probably kicks the 360's ass!
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What I'd be interested in finding out is how much loss, if any, Sony is taking on the P$3. Maybe some people would like it more if they found out that it was costing about $750 to build and you can pick it up for $600.
Now watch all the Nintendo fanboys (and girls) get busted up when the Wii doesn't premier at $199... but is closer to $249. How many people will say that's too expensive for a console like the Wii?
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The funny thing is all the 360 fans don't know if they should be laughing at sony or wondering if the 360 is a cheap toy.
Remember you get what you pay for, and I now not to waste my money of simple toys when I can have the real thing for a little more money.
Sure the kids are going to be mad because now they have to find a way to get mom and dad to spend $600+ on a video game system and games. When I just have to work a few days and save up.
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Quit the 2 SKU's crap and consolidate them both into one premium version only...
Price it at $550...
Suck it up and take the losses on the chin.
Once the price gits $600 most people are out, people like me. I am going to wait a year before I even think about buying one...and so are a lot of other people. If everyone waits (hypothetically) Sony gains nothing but losses up to ying yang.
The PS2 started at $300....In 6 years it has only dropped $170 to $130.
In 6 years: $600 - $170 = Big loss for Sony's market share.
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Well that certainly puts the '$' in $ony P$3!
It is justifiable now. I remember back in the day when owning a console that cost that much was taboo. I think it still is. For shame Sony, we want to play games not have media formats and non-negotiable options in our console setup.
At least with the 360, people will be able to add the stuff they do want and not be forced to choose on set of features over another.
The Wii is supposed to be so cheap that it won't matter what the announced price is, people will still be buying it.
So long $ony! Was a nice trip while it lasted!
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This price comparion stuff makes me laugh. You damn well know that a HDD and an HDDVD player aren't required to play games on the 360. Stop trying to falsely inflate the cost of the 360 by making it sound like everyone who owns a 360 is forced to by the HDDVD drive and a HDD with it. Their not. It's about choice. A $300 360 can play games just as good as a $300 360 with a $200 HDDVD add on...or a $500 PS3 for that matter. The PS3 is expensive, too expensive for that matter. Sony would have been better off doing what MS did and making a blu-ray add on. They didn't though, because to sony the PS3 isn't a console, it's a trojan horse to get you to buy a blu-ray player. Nothing more. The fact that they were willing to add on the blu-ray and increase the cost to $500-600 only proves this.
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BUT, I found out that it realeased in Canada for $550 and $299 in the States. Wow, $299 -> $599 is sure a big jump, even with inflation.
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yes i agree that price is huge but i bet sony is taking an even bigger loss on it
ok and this is related to fanboys- becuase if the wii or 360 cost 600 dollars the fanboys of each system would have noooooooo problem with it just like sony fanboys have no prob with buying ps3
and another thing to point out is that sony doesnt give 2 shits about any of these fanboy comments so dont think you know something when you post a comment about a console you never played
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this puts the price of the cheap one in line with the... Sega Saturn. Ah, crap.
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I do, though, hope that the PS3 infact loses some market share in order to create more compition, making lower prices, more innovation, and goodness all around.
Don't you love capitalism?
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Also, no one has talked about the power pack... I am guessing that it is inside correct? And what about the wireless harware, is it hard wired to the console, and what happens when the technology changes? At least with the 360 you could just buy/replace the current adapter.
What a bargain for $600 bucks! You get unproven technology with a "new" controller that has motion sensors instead of vibration... Brilliant!
PS. Don't forget the fact that the hardware is only half of the launch equation. Lest you forget the software portion that will power the online component... oh, wait... none of the Sony brass even talked about that part... oops! (and no, I don't count the online music crap they showed because gamers could care less about this fluff)
One last item...
Memo to Sony brass:
Nobody cares about your "innovative" motion sensor hack controller. I guess you have forgotten about the ?revolutionary? technology from 90's called ?Virtual Reality? that was supposed to change the world.
Sincerely,
The Nintendo Powerglove
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Price of the 360 * (1 + Testing Effort ) = Price of PS3
I rather have a tested product and will buy a PS3
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It's the fleecing of a fanbase is what it is. 600 is too high for mass market penetration, especially for a game console. For anyone that thinks their 600 Blu-ray Ps3 is going to function as good as a dedicated blu-ray player, they're delusional. Look at the DVD player in the PS2 and tell me how well that worked out. I'll pass. I love VF5 to death and I would love to play MGS5 but for 600, sony can keep it.
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"Why are these stupid nintendo fanboys defending Wii? everyone knows it sucks! stop being a stupid fanboy and admit nintendo messed up!
with that out of the way, sony isnt being stupid by having a $600 price. look at all it's offering!"
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I was just thinking, we should vote for old Ken to be a playable character on the Smash Bros. website. He'd be hella bad ass, swinging his george forman mallet console at the cardboard box Snake's secreted himself in. He could have a flaming projectile cell processor powered by emotions.
Who'd win?
Ken Vs. Super Porygon Fighters Vs. Reggie?
Comin' at you in 4D!!!!
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It's not that much more expensive. If you can purchase an XBOX 360, you can easily shell out another $100 me thinks. Even for $200 more, it get's you franchises that you're just not going to get on Microsoft's console. Don't even get me started on the Japan situation, where Microsoft is dead against a handheld no less. You think this situation will change once the Wii and PS3 debut?
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The thing that surprises me is that they chose to reveal the price now, at E3. Did they have nothing else to talk about? Why spill the beans early?
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Another funny thing is that the titles for 360 are better than what has been announced for the PS3.
Another funny thing is that the 360 has a LIVE service that is proven and is here now.
There is nothing that the PS3 offers that the 360 cannot do and the 360 is much cheaper. And the 360 is real and here right this minute.
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If you were going to buy a Blu-Ray (cough, BetaMax) player anyway, it's a steal at $599 for the early adopter. The Sony faithful will stack up a 360 with accessories to show that the price is comparable. This is an unfair comparison. The XBOX 360 can be upgraded incrementally. You can pick up a core at $299 and go from there. There is no upgrade from the cheaper PS3 SKU to the pricier model. It's a $499 dead-end.
Let's look at the bare minimum pricepoints to play two featured games on the platform.
XBOX 360 Core, Memory card, Gears of War
$299 + $30 + $59 = $388
PS3 Core, MGS4
$499 + $69 = $568
Effectively, it will cost you $568 to play MGS4 on the bare minimum PS3. That's an assload of money. Almost 50% more dollars than a base 360 setup.
This is only worthwhile if there are some killer exclusives. To date, I haven't seen a single gotta have PS3-exclusive title that will be available at launch. When such a title arrives, maybe I'll take the plunge.
Right now, I'm enjoying the XBOX 360 and impatient next-gen gamers would be well-served to do the same.
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Seriously though, John Scalzi made a good point about the 2 skus Sony has announced. The 360's core system was essentially crippled. You simply could not get the complete functionality the 360 offered with the core system. Anyone who actually wanted the full system bought the Pro. The core was referred to as the "tard pack." Now Sony is actually offering every single thing you need to enjoy the system to it's fullest in its core pack. The PS3 pro pack is actually for the HD gaming enthusiast (definitely not the main stream) and we may find the most popular SKU will be the core pack. High Def gaming is great, but still has not reached massmarket penetration. The PS3 pro is for the hardcore. That's all.
Now when it comes to the price, I have to say "ouch."
Yes, the price point is very hard to swallow. That's not to say it isn't completely justified. They really are giving us quite a deal on the stuff they have packed into it. Built in wireless, HDMI, Blue-ray, etc... However, it is still very very hard to swallow that price when the 360 and Wii will be so much cheaper.
The price may be the biggest blow Sony has ever taken. I hope it doesn't destroy their chances this generation. They found a special place in my heart long ago, and I would hate to see the playstation line fall.
Not sure if its clear or not, but I'm a bit of a Sony fanboy, but I am not afraid to admit defeat. Nintendo is going to revitalize gaming innovation, and that makes me extremely happy. I also love XboxLive with a passion and hope similar services become the new standard with the upcoming consoles. It's the primary reason I bought a 360. I just really like seeing Sony on top of the pile, that's all.
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Ok, if this new "motion sensor" controller of theirs is pretty much out of the blue recent right??(yea, they've been looking into it for a long time Harrison...riiiiiiiggght)
How the hell do they expect to perfect that technology and still have time to package this "new" controller into 2 million shipped units by Nov. 11th and 17th??!!
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And golly did it work!
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What are you talking about? The 360 that comes in the Core pack and the Premium pack ARE EXACTLY THE SAME! The only difference is the external accessories it comes with. When different HDD sizes are available, you can buy a core and pick the HDD size you want. It snaps on the 360 in less than a second.
The PS3 in each pack is DIFFERENT. The onboard features are different. You can upgrade a 360 core to a 360 premium but you cannot do that with the PS3.
Ban Bluray and HD-DVD!
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PS3 is nowhere near a cheap alternative to a BluRay player.
casual consumers will not eat this up, and Sony will continue to lose money for years til the Playstation division eventually dies out and Microsoft takes over.
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ok..... lets take a look at what the xbox 1 stole:
non-cartridge games = ps1/sega cd
analog sticks = 64/ps1/gcn
shoulder buttons = snes/64/ps1/ps2/gcn
vibration = ps2
cd-player/dvd player = ps2
pause/select buttons = basically every console
reset button = evry console
o ya did i mention the buttons and d-pad and power/cords
so you see how stupid you sound when you say that ps3 "stole" technollogy from wii
sony is just trying to keep it next gen and i guess thats wat motion sensor comtrollers are "next gen"
if sony/microsoft/nintendo didnt copy off each other than there would be 3 game console more like one called
the ps-wii60
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Sorry guys, it's not bias, sony just screwed up yet again. Enjoy your $600 PS3 though :)
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I think Sony is going to be in for a rude awakening when they attempt to replicate the success of Xbox Live. They may have a system with comparable hardware power, but there is no doubt that they will be way behind the eight ball in the online arena. If it has taken the largest and most powerfull software company in the world a few years to iron out the kinks in their online system, you can only imagine the number of coding bugs that Sony will be faced with at launch. Keep in mind that the PS3 nardware is only HALF of their launch! The other piece is rarely discussed, which is the online software. I would imagine that their online team is quaking in their boots at this point. This is probably true, because we did not get any type of update during E3 in regards to their process, etc.
Memo to Sony Fanboys:
Have fun with your $600 flatbed scanner... er, "next-gen" console.
Sincerely,
The Sony Brass
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As soon as I heard $600 my heart was smashed...Since they announced it, I've been in mourning for the loss of Sony. It will take some time, but I can get over Sony's downfall...I just have to start now. So in 5 years when Sony is struggling through half its life cycle, and Microsoft hits them with the 720 with state of the art technology and takes the rest of the market share away...I won't cry.
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