PS3: Let there be vents

And God said let there be wind, after which he turned on His PS3.

Geez, messed up my own name.

Looks like the ventilation system of a small skyscraper. Wow. Should keep the machine cool enough.

Looks like it could be the first console that can be used effectively as a cheese grater.

that's a lotta vents. wonder if it'll be louder than the 360?

This can't be right!

Joystiq, those must be speedholes.

You know, to aid in the Fourth Dimensional Rendering.
Also, check out the 'definitions' on Urbandictionary.com for the Ps3...pretty funny.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ps3

"sony playstation 3, it was released @ E3 2005, looks like a fridge door with dildos as controllers

hey look, timmys got a fridge door and 2 dildos, whatafreak"

*gasp* those bastards stole nintendos's idea of putting vents on a console...lol

First comes the PS3 grill: http://www.ps3grill.com
And then came the PS3 grater as Chris well put it.

The PS3 i supposed to be as quiet as the slim PS2

If u see the picture the vents in the upper part of the PS3, are just in the same place of the Blue ray drive.

I wonder if the location of the drive is not going to interfere with the proper ventilation to the whole system.

The main reason why the PS3 is so big is that it's power supply is internal. If anyone has looked at ab Xbox 360 the only reason why it's as "small" as it is because it's power supply is external. The Xbox 360 power supply is GIGANTIC.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/xbox-360-power-supply.jpg
http://www.fraggerock.com/?p=396

When I first opened my Xbox 360, I was wondering why the hell they gave me a giant black brick. I had no idea what was going on. It's like big black brick; same size, same weight.

The PS3's power supply will melt your PS3. The Xbox 360's power supply will burn down your house. Pick one. :)

This PS3 is going to be huge. I wonder how Japanese people will be able to carry this thing back home to their car and into their house? Oh well, not my problem. Nice vents.

12. "This PS3 is going to be huge. I wonder how Japanese people will be able to carry this thing back home to their car and into their house? Oh well, not my problem. Nice vents."

Are Japanese people supposed to be weaklings who can't even carry an 11 pound object or something?

that thing could ventilate my house and probably provide the heating

13. 12. "This PS3 is going to be huge. I wonder how Japanese people will be able to carry this thing back home to their car and into their house? Oh well, not my problem. Nice vents."

Are Japanese people supposed to be weaklings who can't even carry an 11 pound object or something?




I will hire a sherpa to haul it to...wherever...I would put...that....at.

i was hoping the whole system was gunna be glossed over just like the psp

There's been a lot of rumours going around about how the PS3 can't fit in its current configuration + power supply inside the box, particularly when compared to the Xbox, but there is an explaination:

65 nm. All Cell processor prototypes to date have been manufactured on 90 nm processes (so far as I know). So have all 360 CPUs and GPUs. In the next few months Sony should juuuussst be able to squeeze out 65nm CPU and GPU chips (half the surface area per component) at yields high enough to prevent them going bankrupt. Moreover, it makes their chips much smaller, less energy demanding, cooler, and if they can handle errors in the chips (which is a feature the designed redundancy of an SPE accounts for) cheaper too. Basically within a relatively short time period, the only element costing Sony a significant amount more than Microsoft is blueray, and that should also come down quickly with volume. There is however a real differece between Cost to the manufacturer, and Price to the consumer. It's difficult to beat the richest company on the planet when they don't mind losing billions.

In relation to the vents, lower power means a smaller transformer. Smaller transformer + lower power = less heat. Less heat = smaller ventilation and smaller fans. Internalised transformer also means it can make use of the system's ventilation: The 360 transformer needs its own fans. Smaller transformer + smaller chips + smaller consolidated fans + smaller vents = Sony getting away with it.

Yes, the whole thing is just about feasible. It's also probably a major reason the system isn't already available.

Wii man, you should stop.

No, really.

Its bound to end horribly. Horribly horribly.

Just saying.

Wow. Just... Wow.

wii man really is a wee man.

wii man is amazing.

I'm laughing.

On the inside.

#11: "The PS3's power supply will melt your PS3. The Xbox 360's power supply will burn down your house. Pick one. :)"

Hmm. The way Sony likes to gouge my wallet, I'm trying to calculate which would cost more.

Sigh...
You really want your IP banned and email shown to the spammers out there don't you?

You will be signed up for beastiality porn you know?

Don't say I didn't warn you, because I told you so.

Yep the vents are there now for proper ventilation (well... dur!), more interestingly Sony's press release for the PS3 claims that:
"For use in living rooms, maximum heat and noise reduction has been achieved with a noise level equivalent to that of the current slim-line PlayStation 2."
PDF- http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509c.pdf
The slim-line PS2?! I'll believe it when I hear/see it.

The internal power supply thing has been confirmed by a Sony Japan spokesperson in an interview translated on ign, although, as you can see he doesn't really explain the absence of the core version's HDMI port(s) that well. See PS3 IGN for more.

An apparantly running prototype of the PS3 was at E3 in a few private demo rooms and without an external power supply unit, it is mentioned here:
http://psinext.e-mpire.com/index.php?categoryid=20&m_articles_articleid=546&PHPSESSID=55bdfdbfdf0743aec473797532902f06
and, for Japanese readers, here (towards the bottom of the page with pictures):
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060511/rt003.htm


And having the PSU inside the console would definitely explain the crazy weight of the thing.

wii man is Uwe Boll!

Why did they put the power supply inside the unit? I tell you its never a good idea. It adds quite a bit of bulk and generates a huge amount of heat. I can promise you the PS3 will be one noisy sucker if it's gonna stay cool.

Apparently Sony thinks having the PS3's power supply internal is a good thing. According to an interview I read on IGN. Here is a funny excert.

"Finally, one bit of controversy cleared up. IT Media closed up the interview by asking Kawanishi if the PS3 has its power source built into the system, like the old PS2 model, or if its separate from the system, like the slim PS2 and the Xbox 360. "It's of course internal," responded Kawanishi. "It's better that way. We of course do things the good way."

Is it just me or does Sony seem very arrogant..

@ #7, I never even saw vents on the Wii, so maybe the vents are the one original thing on the PS3. lol

Hey, if you can use the PS3 as a cheese grater, the Wii-mote as a dull knife, and the 360 power adaptor as a hotplate, you could get a free kitchen w/ $1250 worth of game consoles!

"It's better that way. We of course do things the good way."

I don't know why you guys want Sony to go out of the video game business. They're hilarious!

Anyway, I personally wouldn't mind an external power supply and I'm actually a little shocked that it is internal. Oh well, at least it will look nice sitting on my living room floor.

#26: ISN'T it better that way? I can't think of any significant advantage in having the power supply external. As someone else mentioned, having it internal means it benefits from the system's internal cooling. I think it's a bit ridiculous when, aside from having to put up with the turbine engines on the Xbox 360, you can't just leave the power supply on the carpet - you're supposed to keep it off the floor, suspended between two other objects. Is it me, or does that seem a tad ridiculous?

If they can keep the power supply internal and avoid overheating issues, AS WELL as keeping the noise of the system down to PS2 levels, I will be VERY impressed. I will also eat my hat. Actually make that: I will also go out and BUY a hat, THEN come home and eat it.

Having the power supply separate is a bit of a cheap trick to make the system appear smaller. Sure, the Wii looks diminuitive, but it's likely the power supply will be about the size of the console itself, if the GameCube is anything to go by.

With regards to internal/external power supplies, external is better because if for some reason the power supply breaks, instead of buying a whole new console or mailing it in for repairs, you just replace the adapter.

#30 "I think it's a bit ridiculous when, aside from having to put up with the turbine engines on the Xbox 360, you can't just leave the power supply on the carpet - you're supposed to keep it off the floor, suspended between two other objects. Is it me, or does that seem a tad ridiculous?"

you dont have to have it suspended....ive had mine sitting on the floor (carpet) since i got my 360 back in december and have never had a problem

James-
If your internal power supply breaks...chances are the rest of the components aren't going to be working in tip top shape either.

And am I the only one that has always noticed that the PS3 has had vents? Prototype pictures have always had vents on one side (either on the R or L side, I don't remember).

The only difference now is that theres a helluva lot more of them all over the PS3, in front, in back, on the bottom, on both sides!

I can't wait for Joystiq or others to make videos of the guts of the PS3 when they get their hands on it...(that is, those brave enough to rip open a $600 piece of hardware.)
I'm so damn curious to how they fit all that crap into it.

"This PS3 is going to be huge. I wonder how Japanese people will be able to carry this thing back home to their car and into their house? Oh well, not my problem. Nice vents."

Are Japanese people supposed to be weaklings who can't even carry an 11 pound object or something?"

The Japanese public likes small things, nothing clunky.




The PS3's power supply will melt your PS3. The Xbox 360's power supply will burn down your house. Pick one. :)"


It will melt your PS3, THEN YOUR HOUSE. Do you enjoy a long painful death? The Xbox 360 gets my house burned down quicker, kthx.

One of the ugliest consoles ever made. Offering wireless dildos for controllers and the console looks like the next George Foreman grill. Made by a company (Sony) that puts spyware in their music CD's that makes peoples computers vulnerable to virus'. Sony also has ilegally advertised their PSP in Chicago by paying someone to make graffiti drawings about the PSP on city walls without permision. Also demostrating anti-360 propaganda by paying its Koyeo employees to spread rumors about the xbox 360 freezing, scratching discs etc. Sony is one of the most dishonest companies, they're are always using disgusting business tactics to bring down their more honest competitors such as Sega. There is always a big gap between what Sony says about their consoles, and what they actually show (such as E3, when they used a computer to make those graphics and say it was their PS3. Sony says other consoles break and explode, but dont mention that over 3 million of their sold PS2's broke, or the fact that a majority of their PSP's have an extremely low battery or dead pixels on the extremely sensitive screen that Sony charges $100.00 to repair.

John: Hey I got me a PS2
Larry: Sweet I got a PSP
John: Cool, but mine isn't working
Larry: Mine has a couple of dead pixels and scratches on the screen.
John: Did you try getting yours fixed?
Larry: Yeah, but Sony wanted me to pay $100.00 to get it repaired.
John: Yeah me too!!!
Larry: Should we still get a PS3?
John: Nah, the controllers look like dildos.

The Japanese claimed the 360 was big and ugly. The PS3 has to be the size of a skyscraper. Japanese people live in two story pizza boxes, are on average 5'2", and are submerged in their own nationalistic fanaticism. Okay maybe I'm exaggerating but these people do live in apartments smaller than some Projects. PS3's just doesn't do enough to warrant it's size. I should be able to serve as a stove, dishwasher, time machine, and a robot maid. It does none of these things...shame shame.

LongshotX...

Erm...Interesting rant considering the topic was vents on the official PS3.

Apparently you are one of the unlucky few who buy ANY product, and get a lemon.
Theres always the story of the majority (I'm one of them) that gets a perfect product. I've been using my PS2 since it came out. I've had more than a few 24hr marathons with it poorly ventilated (GT4 endurance race anyone?)and nothing has gone wrong.

I also found it interesting that you think Sony is the devil giving the impression that you think Sony's competitors (you mentioned Sega, but they aren't really competiton anymore) are helpless, kind, saints of gaming that simply want to spread games and love.
I think if you try to educate yourself a little more, you'll find that any successful business of any kind is out to sell product. Businesses usually make decisions around what is best for the business, which may or may not be better for the consumer. If you're going to slam Sony for their business practices or ethics you might as well slam everyone that is successful on an international scale.

...And this is somehow different from the extreme amount of 'holes and heat' the 360 ships with?

By the way, Longshot, a reported 3 million PS2s breaking is a lot, but it's only a reported 3% failure on a console that shipped 100 mill and counting. Accepted by companies for an electronic device's standards:

"Microsoft has said that Xbox 360 return rates are within the normal 3 percent to 5 percent average for consumer electronics products."

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/05/the_unluckiest_.html

But thanks for your 'beginner's screenplay' homework project. Been on the internet lately? Sony chickened out and didn't go 'DILDO' style... They stuck with the ol' beast. Seems the whole 'Internets Hate the Dildo' thing was really taken to heart by Sony - not only did they drop the dildo shape, they even chickened out on the 'vibrating' function!

Personally, I'm buying a PS3. I own every system and it's not stopping with that one... See, I got a problem - I'm a VIDEOGAME fanboy, and I'm excited about all the 'Next Gen' systems. One down, two to go - I'm just glad it's staggered so I have time to collect aluminum cans and sell lemonade all summer to afford all of this.

Woops posted my comment in the wrong post

Check out this thread on Sony's forums, somone made a nice side by side comparison set of the old and newer console.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&message.id=358886&view=by_date_ascending&page=1


Also you can see they added a LOT more vents then the first model.

Good post David...

Damn, I don't care what anyone says about its size, I like the "official" PS3 better actually...I don't know what it is about all those vents..kinda gives it a more rugged industrial look, instead of being completely smoothed over and designed strictly for aesthetics.
Now it looks like it actually does something instead of just lookin pretty, I like that.

Now if only the controller and price were more appealing, whoa, Sony might actually have an industry defining market share leader on their hands.

J Allard Called It. The 2005 version was fake as hell. No vents. That J is one smart dood.

I'm with Eric, I like the new and improved beefy PS3 over the original industrial design. There is something very agressive and cutting edge about the final design, even though its only subtly different from the original.

Having the power supply internal has its advantages. It reduces clutter, and you dont have to worry about where its placed (the 360 supply can cause some serious harm if it is placed next to something that is sensetive to heat). Having it internal does mean the device is bigger, it doesn't get to pretend its the smaller option like the 360. If one put the power supply inside the 360's case, it would easily be larger than the PS3's final case. So the claim that the 360 is smaller should be put to rest, because it would only be smaller if you choose not to have a functioning system.

It seems that the ps3 will be better cooled if it is vertical, since it will allow heat to rise out of the system instead of pushed out horizontally.

Well, Looks like the Ps3 Will be a George Forman Grill after all:P , but the reason i think so is because the CPU, and GPU + PSU will all make it extremely HOT.
Sony will have to start shipping out ps3's with external PSU and face public ridicule. The drive might be quieter, but with all those vents i predict a 2yrs trouble free drive untill dust and hair starts to collect inside.

"....Looks like it could be the first console that can be used effectively as a cheese grater..."

So maybe the PS3 is not just a computer; Blu-Ray player; Games console; web browser; music/media entertainment centre...... Its also a bloody cheese toastie machine. I mean it looks like a cross between a BreadBin & a Toastie maker, with a grater on the side.

If only it made love, then I could chuck out my more expensive misses ;))

When Sony say "the PS3 will blow you away" they mean it.

You power-up you PS3 and........

http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=203567

Did you guys notice there are far less usb ports on the back side of the crippled version?

And behold, there were vents. And God saw that they were good.

And the day and vents were called "a day late and $500 short".

And God rested....and played Wii.

So is the grey model two colors? Black and grey?

#33

"If your internal power supply breaks...chances are the rest of the components aren't going to be working in tip top shape either."

hmm. i doubt it. i've had plenty of devices have their power supplies crap out in various ways. both internal and external. of the dozens of times i've seen that... i am really really racking my brain to think of a *single* time the "rest of the components" had a single thing wrong with them.

aethestically i'd prefer an internal PSU. but functionally i'd prefer an external PSU.

speaking of aesthetics... it *is* possible to design vents that actually look decent. the PS3 is very much NOT an example of that however.