Sony fakes Blu-Ray on VAIO [update 2]

#43(homer)
You keep making less sense. Sony may have experimented with the technology, but they didn't implement it until after Nintendo make a big fuss about it. They may not have stolen the technology, but they most likely stole the idea to put it in their system.

And again; I ask you to explain how those images and information are supposed to support your argument. I previously pointed out that those are images for a *motion*-sensing controller. The PS3 has a *tilt* sensor. The two are different. In fact, Phil all but admits they ganked it;
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16969
>>So, we kind of took an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" strategy - but by adding motion sensitivity to the controller... Well, we didn't start the wave, but we've kind of jumped onto that wave. I'm quite happy to admit that, but that will be one of the defining characteristics of next-generation gaming, the complexity and sophistication of input that you can get from a very simple device.

Ok Vladimir Cole, you can pretty much put update #3 as "It was fake, sorry". The Laptop on our left was playing a DVD on the Blu-ray Drive and the one on the right was playing a Blu-ray disc. That's what was being compared anyway. It could also be possible that there is some blu-ray content on a DVD, so even if that was the case (which is not), it would have proven absolutely nothing (so it's not worthy of making the news).

Somebody posted "look at the picture on your screen... you can't notice a difference between Blu-ray and DVD!!", which is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. How much difference do you pretend to see on a freaking image from afar, on a smaller size? Not only was it a photo taken from distance, but it is also a relatively small pic (for my monitor at least). Just for the record, I do see a difference, but for your own sake, I will assume I have eagle eyes. *sigh*

And let's not forget the legendary "Sony fanboys will interpret this as fake!"; you don't need to be a Sony fanboy to realize that it's fake. There is no way you could tell this story (directly relating it with the PS3) in a more sensationalist way (even worse because it's fake). It's like when Peter Moore announced GTA4 for 360. Everyone got excited despite the fact that the only thing that they said was "ME TOO!". Getting excited about nothing, or worse, something fake (people thought GTA4 was exclusive for 360... lol).

And Jonn, even if it's off topic, on innovation and Sony:

It doesn't matter Jonn, it's not like they "copied" it overnight. Casual gamers don't care, and neither do non-gamers. Only the 'hardcore' care because "Sony lied" and "Sony copied". It's marketing and competition, not lying and copying... when are people going to understand that? I'm oblivious.

Anyway, Microsoft has copied everything from Sony and Nintendo, their only innovation (well, improvement but for the sake of Microsoft, let's say it's "innovation") is the Hard Drive and LIVE. Other than that, the rest was mostly Nintendo, some things Sony, and some SEGA. I don't see Nintendo fanboys (including myself) screaming "Nintendo copied backwards compatibility on consoles! Blasphemy!", nor Microsoft fanboys saying "The original Xbox controller was crap, that is why there is a lot of topological resemblance between the Xbox 360 controller and the PS2 controller!".

Would the damned PS3 controller troll just STFU? Nobody is talking about it at all excpet you, and your alternate name. This is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

I swear, if homer's head and a nail gun were both handy at the moment...

you're so defensive people!

just get all the systems and we can finally live in a gaming utopia.

Gearlog has posted a follow-up story (Wednesday) that is somewhat retracting the story. Just admitting that he didn't check the crucial flaw of his "investigation" is that he didn't check the other laptop's disc:

http://gearlog.com/blogs/gearlog/archive/2006/05/17/11993.aspx

"Earlier today, I spoke with a Sony PR rep about what, the company says, I should have seen. According to Sony, there was a demonstration going on there and the laptop on the right-hand side had inside it a Blu-ray disc that was "not final master." I'm not sure what that would have looked like. I wish I had seen it."

Also it seems a employee of Sony responded to the original blog story on the day (Tuesday) it broke:

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=185953&cid=15348016

"The Blu-ray Disc media used, though not a final master, was encoded and displayed using Blu-ray Disc technology and rendered in true 1080p resolution."

It pretty much says the same thing that the PC Mag wrote on his follow-up, today.

@ 100.
"2. Blu-Ray laptop had Blu-Ray disk, other had DVD-R. This makes no sense and would be even worse, IMO. House of Flying daggers has been out for quite some time on DVD. So you mean to tell me Sony ripped, copied, recompressed the DVD for this demo? For one they go right against their CP push, and two it stacks the deck in favor of Blu-Ray for no reason."

What store, exactly, can I go to and buy a DVD of HotFD that will display at 1080p? 1. This was a VAIO showcase, not Blu-Ray. 2. If you actually READ both articles you will see that Sony was showing the difference in quality between 1080p coming from a standard DVD and coming from a BDR. 3. The fact that both laptops say Blu-Ray on them is FUCKING IRRELEVANT as a BR drive has always been planned to play DVDs.

Sony was showing off their new, BR equipped laptops. If they are showing the difference in quality between the two, why would they run the same thing on two laptops side by side? Since they can't just go pull a copy of HotFD off the shelf and play it at 1080p (because it doesn't exist), they burned it to a DVD. Again, this show was about VAIO, not BluRay. If they are trying to justify the "need" for BluRay, why in the hell would they compare the 1080p BR version to a standard 480p version for a side by side? What's that? They wouldn't? Exactly. That is why it is burned in 1080p on a DVD+R.

You did all notice that there aren't any shots of a DVD+R popping out of the laptop on the right, didn't you? Yeah, the one on the right that is obviously higher quality.

For the record, I'm not a "Sony supporter". This story & all of the retarded banter that follow, they make my brain cry.

Please tell me I'm not the only person whose mind was BLOWN by response #64's weird little Narnia tangent there at the end. Because of that post, the truth of this BD fiasco no longer matters to me, now I just want to know what the hell goes through that kid's mind.

I didnt think it was possible for this site to get any lower. You are no longer a provider of news but one of the biggest laughing stocks within the gaming community.

Its been noticable since the launch of the 360 that you seem to be a service provided to support your advertiser rather than vice versa.

The outright lies you're willing to report without even an attempt to fact check seem to be increasing in regularity and you do a great dis-service to the other weblogs linked to you especially Engadget as you leave a foul stench lingering around the Weblogs Network.

I think a basic education in journalism could help but I'm not sure that providing actual news is the point of this sight any more.

firstly... STOP REFERENCING BY # ONLY...

you do realize that even if i submit something, nothing shows up until i "enable" it from my email... in which case, OTHER PEOPLE CAN BE QUICKER at posting after and then enabling before i do. so if you PLEASE, at least include the name of the person.

to "Seventy5" (as of THIS moment, #105, could be further by the time you read this).

"3. The fact that both laptops say Blu-Ray on them is FUCKING IRRELEVANT as a BR drive has always been planned to play DVDs."

it is COMPLETELY relevant... that if only one drive had BR, and -IT- DID have the DVD+R (for the sake of the argument, and it did anyway), then what does that imply?!?

we KNOW the one on the left had a BD... it'll be a lot harder swapping laptops than discs. and PEOPLE have stated that the left side is of POORER quality. so IF the right side didn't have a BD... what WOULD that imply?

so yes, it is very relevant that both systems had BD.

to some extent, it WAS showing off Blu-ray. because you cannot have that content on regular DVD (at least, not with the same amount of TIME)... on the left is what you would get with dvd media... on the right is what you would get with BR media.

again, yes, the PRIMARY focus is the laptop, but a PART of that laptop is the BR drive, ergo, you'd want to "showcase" it... otherwise, you can't justify the price.