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Posted: Jun 8th 2006 7:00AM (Unverified) said

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These maps are easily worth $5, they are, basically, 8 maps really. 'Cause when you change the sizes of them they look different and have different places. My faves the rooftops one, it owns

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 7:13AM Deezul AwT said

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Seems a little too late to me. I could never get into multiplayer PDZ games. I'd go at someone guns blazing, yet I would I always die. Gimme some Ghost Recon maps or multiplayer levels...

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 8:20AM (Unverified) said

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Kinda pissed off that people hyped up Gas Plant to be a remake of Facility, because it isn't. That said, the maps are easily worth the $5. Mind you, I'm one of the few that prefer Perfect Dark Zero to Halo 2, so, um, yeah.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 8:33AM (Unverified) said

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This makes me an 'unhappy gamer'. I am really disapointed that they scrapped 'promised' features in order to rush this game out for launch... and then charge us 7 months later for somthing that should have been included from the start.

But thats just me...

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/27/perfect-dark-scaled-down-to-meet-launch-deadline/

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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It amazes me how people still COMPLAIN about paying for AWSOME content like this!!! It's 4 maps for cryin out loud!! HOW CHEAP ARE THESE PEOPLE??? Stop complaining and start play'in already!!!!

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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which is why this game is a failure.

Once anything better comes along it will be dead and done.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 11:56AM (Unverified) said

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As far as something better coming along, there's COD2. I have like 8 other 360 games (GRAW, PGR3, etc) and it seems like the only game I can get a room, lobby or multi-player action is with COD2. It's seems like despite all the games, that COD2 is all that anybody plays anymore.

My 2 cents.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 12:09PM (Unverified) said

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PDZ is awesome, mainly because of the weapons, they pwn, but, I just want to know if each, or just some of these maps are good.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 12:47PM (Unverified) said

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yea try playing the outfit, sometime i have to wait 15 mins to get a 2v2.

COD2 is ok but its 4v4 i mean WTF the PC verison of the SAME game is 64.

you telling me my 2+ year old PC can do 64 but my 360 can't.

LAZY LAZY COD2 developers...

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 12:52PM OmenSign said

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I dont mind so much paying ( Very small amounts ) for additional content. Provided it is a quality item. The problem I have is with the direction the industry is going. What would normally be free "mods" in the PC/computer domain suddenly becomes nickel & diming expensives. I do not want to have to buy a 60 dollar game.. then pay another 20 dollars in minor addons that could have been added in the beginning. Unfortunately, this looks like the standard procedure.. and will remain so until xbox has some competition.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 3:18PM (Unverified) said

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this game pisses me off. it was the worst game i bought. i hate all the people that gave it good reviews. they said it was the best launch game. f that. i dont ever play this game and i was tricked into buying it.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 3:34PM 6vx said

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Jouten Za, your two cents arent worth... two cents. Tons of people play GRAW at what seems like all hours. I work nights, and I have no problem finding a game at 6am, or a game that afternoon with room for my friends, or (insert random situation and time here.)

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 3:41PM (Unverified) said

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Mr BoomStick XL: Complaining about paying extra for the maps when we were initially told they would be included in the original game is not being cheap.

Bad analogy ahead. Consider if building a new house and the building co. says, "To finish the house on time we are not going to build that last bedroom. However, we will still charge you the same amount. Oh, and in seven months we will add on that bedroom for you for 1/10th the price you paid for the house in the first place." Anyway, regardless of the amount of money involved, point is that it's the principle of not screwing your customers that is being violated....

/my 2 cents

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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Um, Deddy... no one tricked you, they were giving their *opinions*. Your *opinion* is that it's no good. That happens. This is why *rentals* exist. So that you don't make uninformed purchasing decisions. Don't blame others for your own lack of patience.

That being said, only including 7 multiplayer maps and then charging $5 for 60% more content (that's right, a measly 4 maps is a 60% increase) is just bogus. These maps should've been free. Charge for map packs 2, 3, 4, however many for all I care, but these should be free. PDZ was half-assed in comparison with the original Perfect Dark, all but abandoned everything that made it a fantastic game. Recreate the Goldeneye maps and charge for those, I'll buy them and I know others will too. I'm going to wait and see if map pack 1 becomes free soon, a la Halo 2 map packs.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 3:52PM (Unverified) said

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BrokenDesign,

If you want to get picking about it, five more maps is 71.4% more content. Also, to earlier posters, 500 MS points is $6.25, not $5. Time for a refresher math class I guess.

Anyhow, I really dig the multiplayer on this game. I downloaded the maps online and will be playing today w/friends. I'll report back.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 4:07PM (Unverified) said

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Dirk,

Five maps are not included (if you want to get picking about it). I guess it's time for a refresher in READING. And no, I didn't do the math, I was going off of reports from other sites. They said 60% increase so that's what I went with (if you do the math for FOUR maps, as are included, that amounts to 57.142857142857%, according to my calculator). Other sites and people have said $5 so that's what I went with. The fact that it's $6.25 doesn't make me want to shell out the money any more, just makes it an extra $1.25 I shouldn't have to pay. I'm supposed to pay $66.75 (+tax) for a game and content that I should've only had to pay $60 (+tax) for? No. I won't do it. I hope you really enjoy the maps when you get them, I hope you find it to be well worth the money. That's your decision, I won't criticize you for it. I'm just saying that by purchasing this we are encouraging developers to make games that in comparison with previous games of the same genre have less content and then later put out additional content for more money. It's a scam. Microtransactions could very well be a bad thing if consumers just buy whatever gets put out regardless of whether or not it should've been included in the initial game.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 4:25PM (Unverified) said

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BrokenDesign,

Touche. Bad reading on my part. Chalk it up to having to work back-to-back 11-hour days at my job where I read all day b/c of Election Day and al-Zarqawi being killed. Apologies for snittiness.

Microtransactions like the horse armor are lame. I guess I look at the PDZ map pack as legitimate extra content. Presumably they didn't have these ready to go and leave them out of the game, only to charge for them later. It's almost seven months since the game was released. They must have spent at least some of the time getting these ready.

And they didn't charge for the update that included allowing you to play with DarkOps bots (something that should have been included in the original game, but I'm guessing was cut to make launch.) So they get props from me for that.

Yeah, the maps could have been in the game, but PDZ is the multiplayer title I play the most. And I'm willing to give M/soft my $6.25 for these.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 5:21PM (Unverified) said

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PDZ was $49.99, not $59.99.

So even with the cost of the extra maps it's still cheaper than every non first-party game.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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Just played Infected on the Plaza level and the Trench level. Both maps were pretty fun. Trench seems to be a modified version of one of the levels in the game. Plaza looks very Sherlock Holmes-y. Probably the best looking map so far, although its myriad corridors, balconies and moats will require me to do a little bit of learning. I spent a bit of time wandering around lost. Trench was instant fun, though.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 7:33PM (Unverified) said

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I love Trench; it could end up being my favorite map in the game. The other three are decent and welcome additions.

Posted: Jun 8th 2006 8:23PM (Unverified) said

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There were two versions of PDZ available for sale, the regular edition which was $49 and the collector's edition which was $59. Both are now $10 cheaper if you buy them now, so it's $39 and $49

Posted: Jun 9th 2006 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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I haven't yet bought the map pack but a friend did and is very impressed with the new locations. However, when hosting a Live DarkOps match set to random location, the rest of us who didn't own the maps yet had their Xbox's freeze so he was forced to set a location that wasn't from the new maps. It's unfortunate that PDZ doesn't allow one person who owns the maps to host a game while PGR3 allows you to run on your friends' custom tracks, but I understand. It would be way too much information to be hosted on one Xbox.

Posted: Jun 9th 2006 4:21PM (Unverified) said

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#18, you're absolutely correct.

Unless, of course, we're talking about the Collector's Edition, which was $59.99. Every copy I see owned is a CE, not a standard edition. Not to say that people didn't save themselves $10 on it, just that most of the people I know went all-out.

Posted: Jun 9th 2006 4:40PM (Unverified) said

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PDZ was $59.95 if you got the edition in the tin case like I did. Did everyone see the "leaked magazine information" pointing to PDZ maps pack #2 supposed to be released in July? What are your thoughts on that? Dirk, you'd mentioned how they must've spent 7 months working on them and I agree, but now I wonder if they spent the time working on 8(ish) maps and are splitting the content up over a couple (or maybe even a few) map packs and wringing as much money out of the game's fans as possible? It's pretty fishy if (and it hasn't been confirmed yet, might just be a hoax) it takes 7 months or so to make 4 maps and then only 1 to make an additional 4 or so... I seriously hope that's not the case or Rare will have sunken to a pretty horrible low.

Posted: Jun 9th 2006 6:46PM (Unverified) said

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People still play this game?

Posted: Jun 10th 2006 7:56PM (Unverified) said

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I think that most of the previous commenters seem to have overlooked the fact that with "premium" additional content- content that costs extra- you lose the ability for everyone to play together. Lets say your friend rents the game and you want to play each other. You'll either have to stick to the original levels, or you'll both have to shell out the 6.25* for the expansion. Coincidence or marketing strategy?

*With the way MS points are set up, the least you can buy is $10 worth. So for a first time points buyer, the cost of the maps essentially is $10, while the buyer is left with 300 more MS points. But the only content cheap enough to buy with 300 is themes and pictures. Coincidence...

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