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Posted: Jun 22nd 2006 9:55PM (Unverified) said

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They are calculating it based on how long a store stays open on average, not 24 hours. That figure brings the number up close to their original 20.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2006 9:57PM (Unverified) said

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lol! Nintendo pulled a Sony :)

Posted: Jun 22nd 2006 11:26PM (Unverified) said

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The number is to make it seem that NSMB is being sold at a higher rate than it really is? - You could indeed watch a clock tick off a minute and say "10 copies of NSMB where probably just sold!" - in the specific frame of time defined in the press release. It is because of that truth - and leniencies given toward business - Nintendo can release such claim.

And it's a nature of the current state of interest promotion - and specifically, promotions of self interest - to imply facts, upheld by "convenient" attitudes.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 2:49AM (Unverified) said

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I just wanted to agree with everyone else who said the numbers were obviously based on a typical 12-hour business day. I mean, would Nintendo be so dumb as to blatantly falsify the numbers in a press release, knowing that anyone could double-check??

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 2:51AM (Unverified) said

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Stores are typically not open 24/7. They can count whatever they want.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 2:59AM (Unverified) said

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Stores are typically not open 24/7.






I love it how you say "Consider there are 24 hours in a day and 60 minutes in an hour." This is, of course, in contrast with how many hours there really are in a day, and minutes in an hour."

Again, to quote someone else who posted here, you should all be shot. 16 times in the knee. Just like the number of posts on page two of this news article's that seemingly just appeared.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 2:59AM (Unverified) said

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Stores are typically not open 24/7. Somebody needs to make a YTMND.

also, as a big but reasonable big n fanboy, i'm inclined to call shenanigans, because even if they DID mean that, they stated it so that it might nto seem that way, and i'm almost sure intentionally. shenanigans.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 8:50AM (Unverified) said

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While I'm sure there are some people here trying to justify Nintendo's quirky language, I think many of us responded to the open call to mock Joystiq. Rather than jumping to Nintendo's aid, we leapt at the chance to make fools out of our favorite (or, I guess, not so favorite)video game bloggers.

It's not right what Nintendo did, if in fact they used the 12-hour business hours model without indicating such in the press release, but Joystiq more or less asked for this mess.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 9:00AM (Unverified) said

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The whole world is not concerned about that, yet Joystiq is making a big hooha over this.

Wonder what's their agenda for so many hate articles recently. From MS to Sony to Nintendo to Gamespot to Apple.

Who next?

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 9:09AM (Unverified) said

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WHATS the big friggin deal? Just play your damn copy of New SMB and shutup.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 10:07AM Ludwig Kietzmann said

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Pii, it was not an open call to mock us. I invited mockery in the case that our calculations were incorrect. I see plenty of assumptions and disagreements, but nothing that disproves our point.

Chris, highlighting a half-truth in a press release does not amount to a "hate article". Oh well, at least you have us down as hating everyone equally...

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 10:30AM (Unverified) said

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Ludwig, I guarantee you that many people here took the phrase, "Be sure to mock us if our primitive thought processes are incorrect" as a challenge and immediately set to work devising a scheme that would prove you wrong. That's not to say that anyone here has successfully disproven what you said in your post, but many have settled on the notion that a 12-hour business day would yield 20 sales per minute that the game was actually available for sale. The discussion continues, but I've seen very little mockery, really. So all is well; you are not being mocked (at least, not any more than in any other post that casts one particular company in a negative light), and the posters are engaged in a raging--albeit rather pointless--discussion.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 10:55AM (Unverified) said

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I've never seen a 24 hour Target, and I live in one of the top 5 metro areas in the US. Do they exist?

And, as pointed out - Wal-Marts generally won't sell you anything that requires a case being opened after the electronics people go home for the night.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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@Pii3

First off, I have to say I loved your post (#62). Considering the heat and length at which the mods have gone to defend this story, you kept pretty civil.

But it seems both mods and posters need some perspective.

The END goal of this site is not to inform, but to entertain. They just use information and DISCUSSION about that information to do it.

Since when is pointless discussion not entertaining? ;-)

Hell...they've made a whole field around pointless discussion. It's called phillosophy (said tongue in cheek).

That being said. Joystiq has adequate lisence to be as biased and irrelevant as they wish. They can also incite fanboyism, mockery, flaming all they want if it ignites conversation and entertaines.

Think of it less like World News Tonight and more like Sean Hannity and Colmes.

Hell...call it the "Jerry Springer" of gaming sites. You know you shouldn't look, but there really is some morbid fascination. hehe

And with that...I'm done writing pointless post #63 (at the time of writing anyway).

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 11:13AM (Unverified) said

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Word, Derbeste.

I totally agree. This is all in good fun.

And if this really were a pointless discussion, would I still be participating in it? Apparently, yes.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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Oh btw, Pii3.

I meant to say that I agree with you when you said many posters took this story as a challenge.

I certainly did. I probably wouldn't have posted here otherwise.

However.....I am very entertained.......pointessly.

Posted: Jun 23rd 2006 1:27PM (Unverified) said

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I dunno if anybody has said this already but here it goes............

These sales have to be based on business hours. Why because unless you are paying cash, you debit/credit card is not billed until business hours.

Sure you can buy it at 3am in ur underwear at ebgames online, but it wont reflect ur account until the next business day.

Posted: Jun 24th 2006 4:08PM (Unverified) said

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Stores world wide have a potential to sell for 744 hours in 31 days. Were all stores open at all times, 744 hours would be the actual duration of sales time. As is at present, there are stores world wide, always open - but likewise - there are stores world wide open only sometimes.

In 31 days, the number of sales hours for all stores world wide will be 372 hours, less half the hours of non sale (of stores open only sometimes), plus 372 hours (of the stores always open). The total is a duration of time much more than 372 hours, but substantially less than 744 hours.

Also of importance here is the ratio of influence that is had by stores always open, to those open only sometimes; as well is the duration of time from 5/15/06 to 6/22/06 that stores open only sometimes were not selling.

Posted: Jun 24th 2006 4:13PM (Unverified) said

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Posts that cast one particular company in a negative light -

All companies are companies, but are all companies equal? I'd like to know how news that concerns companies, which all have obvious differences, can be presented in such light that does not distinguish positive from negative, or that doesn't use that distinction in comparisons of one company to an other.

" ...many have settled on the notion that a 12-hour business day would yield 20 sales per minute that the game was actually available for sale." -

It seems that for many, it's ok for Nintendo to release a statement that is not wholly true - as long as some truth can be seen, some of the time. For these people, who have given dedication to a corporation, it seems lies are sometimes tolerable.

Posted: Jul 27th 2006 6:18AM (Unverified) said

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Hey you guys! Are you stupid? Think about it, 23 for every single minute since it's release make sence do to the fact that when one part of the world is sleeping.. the other part of the world is waking up. Not everyone in the world is in the same time zone as you guys are. I'm in the Centeral States and did you know that Austrilia is 17 hours ahead of me? So when I got to sleep, they are waking up buying a Nintendo DS. Think people. THINK!!!

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