For Sony, everything old is new again

Oh no you did-unht!

*Grabs some popcorn*

This is too damned funny. I love it.

Even the Playstation boys are making fun of the PS3.

*shares Pickypants' popcorn*

I love the smell of being lied to by an arrogant Japanese gaming company early in the morning! This clip is one of the classics, as the guy's sense of humor is dry and spot on. Regardless of what you think of any of the next gen systems, even the most hardcore of Sony fans has to step back and ask themselves why Sony is being so dishonest and braindead in the press latey. What are they trying to hide? Given this clip, what does the PS3 offer me that will not be available from Nintendo in a few months, and is not avaialble from Microsoft today -- at a cheaper price?!

" but don't gamers deserve something a little more for their $600 than rehashed 7-year-old ideas"

"it has cell technology!" (to quote an actual reply here on joystiq)

lol, thats bad if a magazine devoted to Playstation said that. And that kid was a loser.

The emotional engine may be put into it, though people still can't access it!!!How Blantantly do you have to be caught in a lie before customers get a clue and get away from the product.

i just had to add..... OH SNAP!!!!!!!!!!

Hell yes we deserve something more than rehashed 7-year-old ideas. We need rehashed 6-year-old ideas.

this is tight I just watched the video with a few friends and they love how you can control the games with the controller now they can't wait to buy the PS3 (they have jobs not like a lot of people here) thx for the video and yeah we don't really care for the vibration thing.

Now, now. It's only $500 for the 7-year old technology. The extra hundred is a larger hard drive, a wireless connection, and a few more ports.

LOL, let the PS3 Fail! 360+Wii is my ultimate choice as is some friends of mine, no one wants the PS3! YES!

OMG THE CELL...next time come up with a better name, whenever I hear that I think of that crappy j-lo movie.

Wasnt the orignal XBOX supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the PS2 yet it used the "ancient technology" of dual sticks and rumble that PS and PS2 were using? All this copy cat debate is stupid. Sony introduced the dual Analog stick and rumble to the home gaming world, and now everyone copys it, yet you didnt hear people ripping on them.

Well, the video goes on to point out, unintentionally how unfriendly the dual shock design is to motion sensing gaming. Look how much movement you have to endure by holding with both hands. Any movements that require a 180 degree turn in any axis is going to require more movement than your hands can manage.

Granted this can be worked out, but it's still awkward to see him contort his BOTH of his hands for movement.

I don't think the controller, whether the wiiremote or the dual shock should be used as a replacement steering yoke. Buy a steering wheel if you want that.

The wii remote seems well suited for specific game inclusion. FPS, Sports games, swords, weapons based fighting, even fighting games.

The dual shock? That seems so tied to movement only, it's unimagineable to see it get used as a weapon manuever.

I can't stand Sony, but I must correct this guy on one point:

The PS3 will not have force feedback due to lawsuit issues.

"10. Wasnt the orignal XBOX supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the PS2 yet it used the "ancient technology" of dual sticks and rumble that PS and PS2 were using? All this copy cat debate is stupid. Sony introduced the dual Analog stick and rumble to the home gaming world, and now everyone copys it, yet you didnt hear people ripping on them. "

Sony added an analog stick, and they did not introduce Rumble to home gaming, N64 did!!

#13.

N64 added both the analog stick and rumble.

ummmm. can i use your controller to control my game?

As Paris Hilton would say:

"That guy is HAWT!"

The vibration was actually taken out because of legal reasons involving the liencing of dual shock.

>>this is tight I just watched the video with a few friends and they love how you can control the games with the controller now they can't wait to buy the PS3 (they have jobs not like a lot of people here)

Most adults have jobs. What kind of debt are your friends in? They certainly don't sound like they know how to manage their cash. $600 for a video game machine is a waste of resources unless you have no debt -and- piles of free cash each month to burn.

#14. Sorry, I said Sony only added another analog stick, I forgot to say to the one Nintendo already introduced

#10

Not sure if this is correct, but I'm pretty sure microsoft came out with the dual joysticks for pc controllers, correct me if I'm wrong.

"$600 for a video game machine is a waste of resources"

but ofcourse, $500 for an iPod isn't right?

"Wasnt the orignal XBOX supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the PS2 yet it used the "ancient technology" of dual sticks and rumble that PS and PS2 were using? All this copy cat debate is stupid. Sony introduced the dual Analog stick and rumble to the home gaming world, and now everyone copys it, yet you didnt hear people ripping on them."

Actually, Nintendo rumbled before them.

And the Xbox's proclamations of being "leaps and bounds better" had nothing to do with the controller.

As I pointed out in the Xbox 360 fanboy blog.

This isn't about fanboyism. This is about journalism. Good journalism at that.

Only becuase you write for a Playstation mag doesn't mean that you should give up your journalistic integrity.

>>but ofcourse, $500 for an iPod isn't [waste of resrouces] right?

If you have unpaid debt or have to go into debt to afford it, correct.

Well.....at least now Wii fanboys can quit with the "zOMG Sony are teh stealing our ideaz!"

Clearly they had a form of this technology LONG before Wii. Now...whether or not they INCLUDED the technology because of the Wii buzz is still up for grabs.....

(Note: I'm a bit of a Wii fanboy.)

"but ofcourse, $500 for an iPod isn't right?"

I didn't realize you could buy an iPod for $500 anymore. Anyway, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China?

>>but ofcourse, $500 for an iPod isn't [waste of resources] right?

Apple is known to charge a premium for the brand (and color scheme on the new macbooks) alone. iPods are overpriced for what they deliver.

its only me or in the warhawk part ( 1995 warkhawk ) there's a noticable lag between the motions on the control and the response on the screen.

The fact is, the PS3 is primarily a gaming machine. How many consumers use their PS2 as your primary DVD player? Exactly. Bluray, shooray. Bluray/HD-DVD players prices will fall to Earth in the not too distant future and standalone players will be the preferred choice for most consumers.

$500-$600 for a machine that plays video games is overpriced. Pretty graphics can be found on both the 360 and the Wii, as well. Gameplay is where it's always been at and all three machines will be able to deliver that in spades.

So, it's your choice and your cash. Be smart.

I love how he says 'the controls take some getting used to, but after that they work fine.' and the video shows his car bouncing off the walls in GT.

"iPods are overpriced for what they deliver." replace iPods with PS3s...

#29: indeed.

antaeus,
I take it from your sarcasm you have a job. Congratulations. Now all you have to do is get a social life, get a girlfriend, move out of your parents basement, pay for your own car insurance and other bills and buy your own food. After that, you'll see how unaffordable a PS3 can be (can be, as in you might be able to afford it, but not everyone else). Just because you have a job doesn't mean you are guaranteed to be able to spend over $600 in one day...

HA!, that just shows who copied off of who. See Nintendo fanboys, go cry in your pink walpapered rooms, Sony didn't copy the motion sensing Idea off of Nintendo, Nintendo copied it off Sony. HA! (oh and just so that you know joystiq, this news is over a week old.)

Wow...

Come now Joystiq, I didn't know you guys could do something so low. You know why the PS3 costs $500-$600 and it is for blu-ray and the processor, not the controller. Up until now the main focus of every console has been the games. The controller and the system itself have not won any previous console war. The Wii has a great controller and has great games. While the PS3 may have a controller with old technology, who cares as long as the games are good. The XBox 360 controller is probably even more ancient as it does nothing new. A console is only as good as its games and the PS3 looks like it will have many good games for it. Who care about the controller as long as you have good games for the system?

"N64 added both the analog stick and rumble. "

They didnt, it was Vectrex who did it, the very first anologue stick.

Wow, the guy in the video is charisma personified. Anyway, yet another blog entry by a MS fanboy.

Oh, and let people do whatever they want with their money, geez. I can't believe fanboysim has gotten so bad that people are telling PS3 buyers that they are probably in debt or wasting money. I have a 360, don't know if I'll get a PS3 but don't go around telling people how to spend their money.

iPods are not $500 anymore, try $150 to $400 depending on model and capacity. Most people are willing to pay this because of the "simplicty" and user-friendlyness of the device and utilities... though I think the software is way too limiting. But, I'm a techie, not a 60 year old grandma with a pocket full of Johnny Cash tunes. And that market pull is what makes the iPod such a winner.

As far as the PS3, I feel that the motion sensing is stuck on and that the lack of rumble will hurt the console. I don't care who was the first to developer motion sensing... I only care about who will be the first to do it right. Gates says motion-sensing isn't practical... well, his controller only supported a few games and cost some cash to obtain. This generation, that ability will be inherent in two consoles, allowing more games to use it. As we all know, you can't program a game for the minority (PC users with motion sensing controllers), but you can for the majority (all users of the PS3 and Wii).

I don't imagine many PS3 games will use the tilt sensors, and if they do, not very well. With the Wii, developers will be forced to use the motion abilities because of the relative lack of buttons. Nintendo will also benefit from the wider range of motion options that the Wii remote provides. Whether or not this will "change gaming" or even be liked is yet to be determined, though I must say I'm rather excited to have the Wii on launch day.

32, id say the controller is pretty important. the 360 controller is leaps ahead of the ps3 controller (how do i know? cause its the same fucking controller as the past 2 consoles). the dual shock was inferior to the controller s

i hate the dual shock analogue sticks, why does the surface curve outwards? why? my fingers constantly slip off them. heres hopin they tighten them up this time aswell. i see theyve added triggers, that would have been my next moan but theyve sorted that out. and please please please swap the d-pad and stick around

like someone else said on here, theyve taken away another way of feedback. now when you play a game you only get video and sound as feedback. the more feedback, the better

Neither Sony nor Nintendo invented the analog stick as people on here are saying. The Atari 5200 had the non-self centering analog stick, and some other crappy thing actually had a self-centering one. The idea that Sony could invent technology is laughable at this point, but I can't wait to use my Playmote on Playstation Live!

bring back the boomerang!

I agree.

Joystiq, you're just trolling here by saying that for $500 we should get "more than this" from a controller. We all know why Sony is pricing the PS3 as high as it is.

Damn, this is what Sony said they've been researching and investing in since the PS1 controller came out? They said they were waiting for a time when it was cost-efficient, yet that guy bought it for 5 bucks. LMAO, Sony is getting so sad and pathetic....

"HA!, that just shows who copied off of who. See Nintendo fanboys, go cry in your pink walpapered rooms, Sony didn't copy the motion sensing Idea off of Nintendo, Nintendo copied it off Sony. HA! (oh and just so that you know joystiq, this news is over a week old.)"

Neither of them invented it, but the fact that the developers of the new Warhawk game knew of the motion sensitivty only weeks before E3 (search around Joystiq, there was an article about it here) proves that Sony tacked it on after they found out Nintendo was including it in their next generation console.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Sony's old PS3 controller design (the boomerang) would be better for motion sensor controlling? I think the old shape would have allowed for easier movement, and the thing looked like half a circle (half a steering wheel), meaning racing games would definitely benefit from the motion sensing. Anyways, I think just about everyone can agree that Sony's decision to stick with the same old (and what I think to be the worst/most uncomfortable) controller is a stupid move that may even hurt the system. I think the Wii (even with it's stupid name) will win this console battle, with Microsoft close behind.

WASD for LIFE!

so sony is tryna fake it that the lame motion sensing controller is part of the $600 price tag, when that "technology" is cheap as chips!!

so how much of the ps3 price is for the blu-ray player? 75%?