Doom-cum-point-and-click adventure game

my quick review: eh.

"Doom is quickly joining Mario in the race to be the most referenced, recycled and remixed video game property ever."

Geez, talk about hyberbole. Not only did Mario have a half dozen or so games before Doom ever even came out, but in the time since has produced games at at least 2 to 3 times the rate. And that's just actual product. I'm pretty sure the parodies and curtural references are in equal proprotions as well.

It's an interesting link and I thank you for it, but try to keep the slobbering fanboyism to yourself next time and act like the journaism professional you would like to be treated as.

I played this game sometime last year, and it's actually surprisingly challenging. I recommend giving it a shot.

@Laxcat:

Lay off. Did Mr. Grant ever say he was trying to be a journalist? And who are you to define what journalism is, anyway? An example of journalism is reporting on things of interest, which he is doing. You have no right to criticize him for his choice of story, or for his opinions. Just shut up and quit being an ass for the sake of being an ass.

Hey laxcat:

reading comprehension 101: quickly joining does not mean equal to. The post is playful. If this was an empirical study between the two, i'd have published it as an academic paper full of citations and the like.

"but try to keep the slobbering fanboyism to yourself next time and act like the journaism professional you would like to be treated as."

Lucky for me I've never claimed to be a "journaism" professional; now, please try to keep the annoying trolling to yourself. UGH!

just waiting for the kids who dont know latin to complain about the title..

Please keep foul language out of your articles, especially the titles. It's really quite unjournalistic. If you must have it, please keep it below the cut.

Thank you.

Hey guys, try holding the space bar, that first zombie space marine battle aint so bad!

@Rare Hare

Who's defining journalism? How else would you define a site such as Joystiq? Are not blogs forms of journalism? Shouldn't we expect some sort of accuracy? I do however regret using the word "professional." That was error on my part, and I respectfully retract.

And I have every right to criticize. Or would you remove that right from all Joystiq readers?

@C. Grant

I apologize if my remarks were personally offensive. However, I assure you I fully comprehended your meaning before posting (and will ignore the implication of poor reading skills). I still hold to the notion that "quickly joining" is a poor comparison term of an object (or in this case, body of work) far behind and moving at a slower pace than another. I'm not saying Mario is better, I'm saying it so far outpaces the cultural presence of Doom, that the comparison was perhaps ill conceived.

I also find it pretty offensive to be called a troll by just pointing out some inaccuracies. I'll be sure and censor my opinion next time. I didn't realize Joystiq was a place of such sensitivity and stifled expression.

Laxcat: Calling a writer at a site you frequent a "slobbering fanboy" certainly sounds like a troll to me! Maybe we have different metrics to measure this one.

Express yourself till your head falls off, I don't care. Just don't get all pissy and start criticizing people when you disagree with them. It is a disagreement, not an inaccuracy. I expect that sort of response from a tempermental teenager, not a college graduate.

There are plenty of forums to discuss the nexus of blogging and journalism (including this very blog!) just not this post. It isn't a simple answer.

mercatfat: I hope you meant "bitch" and not "cum." Regardless, if Elton John can say it on the radio station they play in my grandma's dentist office, it's fair game for a blog.

minus_273: Looks like you didn't have to wait very long, not very long at all.

@C. Grant

I'm actaully going to accept that. I should have ended my original post one paragraph sooner. That last one seems to be the one attacting all the attention, and it diluted my original point. (Which I suppose we'll have to just agree to disagree on.)

My testiness comes from the general disatisfation I have with gaming journalism in general. (Whether you consider yourself such or not.) "News" born out of uncredited rumours. The general youth of the reporters and readers alike. Endless speculation. (Oh, man, the speculations!) All contributing factors. I shouldn't have vented here, and on a post that (as I believe I've already said) I found quite interesting.

You guys are four years late http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/58822

The same author also released a Damnation Shoot-out
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/82704

Laxcat: accepted!

Sure, lots of problems with "game journalism" which is why we're often quick to point out that what we're doing isn't easily encompassed by that term. This might be four years late (sucks to be us I guess, first time I saw it!), but we aren't governed by timeliness. Speculation? Sure, there's tons, most of it designed by the companies we're writing/reading about. That's the way the industry works. We like to think we clarify the noise instead of adding to it, by questioning dubious sources, tracking down the origins of these rumors. A French site citing an unnamed source? That's not "confirmation" to us.

A lighter tone: who beat the first mini-game?

mr. grant-

surely, you know i'm just being silly.

You give me more than 3 phrases that people use in everyday English that incorporate the Latin word 'cum'.

Once you do, I'll know that Engadget/Joystiq bloggers aren't using it with the intent of trying to be shocking, funny or witty. I guarantee you ladies and gentlemen....it was shocking maybe once, funny maybe twice ane witty maybe never. For a site where people commonly use words like "leet" and "roxorz" you just end up looking like a fucktard.

The first mini game is very easy if you simply hold the spacebar. No furious aneurysm-inducing banging of the spacebar required

I think that is one of the most profound sentences ever mentioned on this site.

JCA:
"car-cum-boat" http://www.popsci.com/popsci/automotivetech/d5e91196aeb84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

"SUV-cum-sportwagon"
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/maserati-to-build-crossover-suv-cum-sport-wagon/1307/

"I want to cum on your face"
http://hardcorestuff.com

mercatfat: haha, maybe I was a little jumpy. JCA on the other hand isn't being silly! See, I have reason for my madness.

JCA: I apologize. I have two college degrees, one in Literature, I've taken three years of Latin, and I write for a living. Perhaps I actually do see the word "cum" in more non-porn outlets than porn outlets. It's not supposed to be shocking, witty, or funny; it's supposed to be a preposition.

Oh, and thanks TC! If Popsci and automobile.com aren't everyday enough for you, I'm sure we can find more.

Lastly: Do you giggle every time you hear the name "Dick?" Or a hot dog is called a "wiener?" How about the conjunction "but" (it sounds just like BUTT!). Now you see how silly you sound.

"I hope you meant "bitch" and not "cum.""
"Do you giggle every time you hear the name "Dick?""

Truly classic quotes, and not something you read everyday Chris!

P.S There's no way anyone without a double-barrelled surname has more than one college degree. I can bet James and Conrad have five each, and sadly five more than me.

I think it's safe to say that JCA didn't graduate magna cum laude or summa cum laude.

Ahh, this discussion forces me to bring out quotations from that most intellectual of films, Mallrats.

Brodie: Hey, look at that ring. What is that?
Jared Svenning: That is, um, my Junior College class ring. Cum Laude, '69.
Brodie (being facetious): I also hope to cum loud one day, preferably in a 69.

Unless the author of this blog entry teaches Latin or talks about his senior year report card all day long then I guarantee he does not use this word DAILY as I indicated before. He uses it because he thinks its funny and like I said...it WAS funny but not after the billionth F**king time of seeing it here and on engadget. Admit this and give it a rest.

But if you insist it has true literary merit to mix in JUST ONE Latin word in your otherwise ALL ENGLISH website and you don't do it for laughs then here ya go sport:

With = Con (in Spanish)
With = Avec (in French)

You've been pwned.