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Those two are great as well.]]>Jul 19th 2006 5:19PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/its all here: http://my.opera.com/DotEd]]>Jul 19th 2006 5:23PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 5:32PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 5:40PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
As a side note, did you guys ever decide who you're going to hire?]]>Jul 19th 2006 5:57PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Anyway, I only understood the very basics of what he was saying, but .. it was pretty basic. "With one touch, you can access links", "The Nintendo DS lets you access the internet", touching on the different viewing modes (zooming in or both panels), nothing we haven't heard before.]]>Jul 19th 2006 5:58PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 5:59PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Audio translation:

You can use the internet on your DS. Nintendo DS Browser. Browsing that uses the DS's functionality. In two-screen mode, both screens can be used to display "mini-mode" and "magnified mode." While looking at the entire page, you can see a magnified view of the places on that page that you want to see. You can also switch the top and bottom screens. Then, if you touch the screen once, you'll follow the link that you touched. Also, using "vertical mode," display data can be displayed across both of the DS's screens. You can also easily browse pages that contain lots of text.

Input of words that you wish to search for and other items is simple. The input mode can be selected from two choices: drawing input and keyboard input. Also, searches are not limited to only web searches- searching for text within a page is also possible.

In addition... basic browser features such as URL input, bookmarks, and history are all included. On top of this, using the added functionality of setting passwords, and excellent service to block harmful websites, anyone can enjoy the internet, worry-free! A new internet life, starting on the DS.

Nintendo DS Browser.

Text translation:

Internet on the DS! Browsing using the unique aspects of the DS.

Nintendo DS Browser

2 Screen Mode

Magnified pages and mini-pages displayed at the same time

Upper and lower screens can be switched

With one touch, goes to the link destination

Vertical mode

Vertical display across the DS's 2 screens

*Depending on a page's image data content and other factors, the page may take some time to display.

Simple Input / Search

Handwritten input

Web search

Keyboard input

Search within a page

In addition...

URL input

Basic browser features are all included

*Flash, movie files, audio files, and PDF files (and some other files) are not supported.

Bookmarks

History

Password settings

Even families can use it free of worries

A new internet life, starting on the DS.

Caution

In order to use this item, a wireless LAN access point or something similar is needed in your house, or to use it outside your home, you must have an environment with a Nintendo Wi-Fi Station, a Freespot, or something similar.

For details, please see Nintendo's homepage.

Nintendo DS Browser

Planned release date: July 24th
Manufacturer's recommended minimal retail price: 3,800 yen each
(Price without tax: 3,619 yen)]]>Jul 19th 2006 6:16PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 6:24PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Is this being released in the states? If so, when?

Thanks guys.]]>Jul 19th 2006 6:38PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 6:48PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 7:12PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 7:49PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Do you know what that means? You're going to be seeing a bunch of red X's and download flash warnings. You're not going to be able to watch anything moving (except an animated GIF if we're lucky). All this browser can do is display images and text. You can't download anything either. FOR 35 DOLLARS. And if you can't wait, it'll cost you $50 to import it. What a rip-off.]]>Jul 19th 2006 7:50PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 7:51PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Now take that last sentence and apply it to all PSP vs DS debates. Sigh, sigh, sigh, Internet.]]>Jul 19th 2006 8:15PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
That's a disadvantage? Sounds like heaven to me.]]>Jul 19th 2006 9:01PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
The PSP couldn't compete before the DS browser, how on earth will it going to compete after it?]]>Jul 19th 2006 9:10PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 19th 2006 9:17PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/]]>Jul 19th 2006 9:20PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/lite one only works on lite

is there goin to be stupid pop up on there?
adware? or is that only IE?
what langauge does it display?
]]>Jul 19th 2006 10:23PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
1)Sony is Flash compatible!

2)Wanna save a file?? Sorry you can't!

3)I know, I won't lose my web browser! -playing game, presses Home, scrolls to web-browser, surfing!

4)$30???? what? Okay at least it's only $30,.... but what's this Nintendo upgraded again it with Flash, wait is that another $30???

5)NO Touch screen?? O wait, my cellphone does not have one too, and it didn't really affect me unless I'm trying to be that fastest web surfer. (Watches TV at Starbucks, while girlfriend talks to her other girlfriends)]]>Jul 19th 2006 10:39PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Besides, none of that is relevent when we're comparing browsers. It's funny how you did the usual "You're paying 200 for a web browser with crappy ..."

I see that with "200 for an emulation machine with crappy..." or "200 for a lumines playing machine ..."

The titles are increasing, and the library has come a long way. Maybe not as much as the DS, but there is a market for this console, and far more viable uses if you do love the homebrew. The emulation is excellent, video playback using pmp brilliant, better titles, decent web-browsing, wide selection of homebrew games, media streaming, PSPradio. Though I agree, UMD-video is a disaster, and if you choose not to use homebrew (with firmware emulation and the recent downgrader's it's a must) it pales. Trust me, defending the PSP is getting easier by the day. =P

Anyhoo, though lacking features, I'd get this browser for it's ease of use if I didn't have to spend however much and remember to take the cart around with me. As well as either choosing a version that doesn't work with my brothers, or one that will stick out of my Lite.

Chronogears seems the most rational here. But it seems to appreciate the advantages of both consoles one needs to own both or neither.]]>Jul 19th 2006 11:24PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/and for the record i own a ds lite and a psp and i like both of them the same]]>Jul 19th 2006 11:54PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
The PSP wasn't "beating" anyone.]]>Jul 20th 2006 3:14AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Like the N64.]]>Jul 20th 2006 3:52AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 20th 2006 7:29AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 20th 2006 9:49AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
There's no 'nail'. Just because a system isn't the best in the market in terms of sales says nothing for it's success. You brand Creative mp3 players dead because they're not outselling iPods? That's just not how markets work. The PSP is still very profitable. The awful UMD movies is hardly a problem with the considerably better video playback from the memory stick.

digg-it, is the PSP really being redesigned? I thought that wasn't happening anymore. I mean, personally I don't see the need, it's pretty enough, and whacking a camera or shaving off some millimetre's doesn't really seem neccessary.

Clint, I know what you mean, but it's not gonna hurt them to release some applications that make the DS a little less game dedicated. As hard as it is for many to believe, the companies in the game industry feed off eachother, and Nintendo's no exception (though obviously less than MS and Sony).]]>Jul 20th 2006 10:20AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
The psp forces you to pay for stuff that is substandard and most people don't even want. The psp is not profitable for Sony they lose several hundred bucks each one sold. The games coming out? Locoroco was though to be the savior of the psp and it's sales are in the toilet. I fully expect it to show up on the ps2 or even the DS next year.

Sony makes money from game sales and psp game sales are in the toilet. Sony is losing money hand over fist on the psp.

Nintendo on the other hand is printing money on the DS. ]]>Jul 20th 2006 11:22AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/
Unimpressed PSP users are uninformed PSP users. Video playback is excellent if you do it properly, regardless of sales there are several decent titles. Compared with what you gain, pop-ups are a minor nuisance.

Many care about the features you touted, but opted for the cheaper game-oriented DS. There IS a market for both, and the US and EU sales prove this (although there is a loss per console, at the very least in terms of market share outside of Japan, it's hardly a flop). Just browse Joystiq for some numbers on this.

They can (and are) living together in this market. Deal with it.]]>Jul 20th 2006 12:55PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/- Will there be tabed browsing like the psp?
- Is there a feature that can let you switch between display sizes?
- Finaly, How fast will the display speed compared to the PSP?

I own both and the PSP browser get a lot of use because I am never at home very often to check my e-mail. Oh and I am posting this with my PSP (not the smartest thing..) It does need a keybord to make this much more simplified.]]>Jul 20th 2006 2:41PMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Jul 21st 2006 2:43AMhttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/19/ds-opera-browser-in-action/Oct 2nd 2006 1:12PM