Famitsu: Two more titles dropped for PS3

@GWolf - >24. 100 days from Launch and no sign of the PS3. The only scenario that makes any sense to me is the PS3 may not be all they promised and Sony’s playing for time.

You know, you bring up an interesting point. It's at 100 days now, and the gaming stores still have no idea when (at least at a store level) they're going to be able to start accepting pre-orders. The last that the stores in my area (several GameStops, EB's, and GameCrazys)have heard is that pre-orders are still a no-no. And it's starting to bug them, because they're having people call almost every day.

Sony = ball being dropped - big time.

Interesting that stores in the US aren't accepting pre-orders already. IT seems to be the way at least it will work here in Sweden. I think possibly also in our neighbouring countries (bonus points to you who can name those).

Here in Swedden at least with most retailers, it works like this: put down your pre-order with them, initially it was entireley no-cost, now it's up to something like $25 at least where I pre-ordered from. (The rest that are "offline" seem to have the standard over-the-counter deal, some require a pre-book payment of a simmilar magnitude as the online retailers)

Next week, they will be getting and shipping off official pre-book-"kits" with a DVD and a code that you have to enter at a Sony-site to finalize your order. The DVD is supposed to have some nice, possibly exclusive material on it, I'd assume a bunch of trailers or something.

Then just wait and hey presto, it's Nov 17th and there I have a PS3 in the "mailbox" waiting for me.

It's really a shame that retailers and distributors of the PS3 worldwide haven't adopted something simmilar already.

Yes, I blame the retailers. Get your act together. It could be done in Sweden so I see no reason whatsoever that it can't be done in the good ol' U.S. of A.

Btw, there are no polar bears out now, we scared them off earlier this month after they attacked an innocent Xbox 360.

Wow... I wonder what these people would write if Sony had their own news blog and posted this "NEWS". It isn't opinion, it is news... Joystiq is here to (mostly) post News!!! This article had nothing but facts in it... "seems to be getting full at the moment" is a reference to other titles being dropped. Quit bitching at Joystiq and as Sony why all these companies are jumping ship!!!!

FANBOIS go home! Seriously, just because you don't like the news, don't hate on the newscaster.

Relax everyone, it happens. And yes, the developers and publishers are saying they are a little worried about the high price of the PS3 and what that means to the install base and the potential buyers of their games. With the high development costs of the NEXT-GEN systems (not just the PS3), some companies may want to hold off on development.

Don't be surprised if some of these games come back a year or two from now, once the PS3 is out there and the worries about the install base are gone.

Sales will be low in the intial release of the PS3, and that will be due to availability. Once production is ramped up, expect stores to have them sitting on shelves because of the high costs. I expect that the 360 sales will be more per month than the PS3 for at least a year or two because of cost and game library.

Oh yeah, and I will say it again, THE PS3 WILL NOT BE HERE IN NOVEMBER! Either because of production delays or the fact that there won't be enough games ready or whatever! I believe it was around this time last year that we started seeing 360 displays popping up in stores. Where is a working PS3?

Spring 2007 for the PS3 at the earliest!!!

Stores not able to take pre-orders can be looked at in one of two ways...

1. Sony are being careful so that they don't have the Microsoft situation where they allowed retailers to take as many pre-orders as possible for the 360.

2. The yields on the Cell are so low that they can't guarantee a November release or even if they do deliver, the number in the marketplace is so low that it makes pre-ordering pointless.

Of course there is always option 3. That Sony have a huge number of consoles in warehouses already and are just allowing the hype machine to do its thing by creating the false impression that there will be limited numbers.

Just because it is news does not mean that it not also has had a good dose of SPIN attached to it. Such as in this case where a canceled game has been implied to mean that Sony/PS3 if failing.

Is the Xbox 360 failing since it has had it's own fair share of canceled games? I would say no.

If the news had been: "170 games canceled for the PS3, only 5 left in development" then that would have been quite a good sign of a failing system. But no, a few games have been canceled simply due to the failing economics of some of the larger developers and publishers. They took water over their heads trying to develop far too many games for far too many systems.

A simple economic analysis of the whole situation says according to me:
The 360 has a supposed installbase of 5 million units now. At best, the PS3 by November 13 will have an installbase of 2 million units. If you are making a game to be released now or very soon, which platform would you cut from development in order to save money and reallocate developers to another system? You'd cut the PS3-version in many cases. It's a numbers game, you shoot for the system with the largest current potential of making you a profit. If you do have the money to shoot for all the platforms, then you do it, but if money is getting tight...

What many fail to realize is that no developers (coders/artists etc) seem to have been fired.

Since they have not been fired, the companies have NOT had any direct economic advantage from cutting a title for a platform. Their resources [personell] are still costing them money on a monthly basis. What they have had though is a reallocation of resources in order to either get a certain game done in time, or get it done sooner. This platform most likely will then also have a larger potential base of buyers than the other platform(s).

There's of course another option which would be that the resources have been reallocated to a title which will be released for the system at a later time, but this seems highly unlikely. A small core design team possibly, but not a full staff.

There are of course cases where a game has been cut from the system which at the moment and at the moment immediatley in relation to launch [of the PS3] will have a larger installbase, but kept for the system with a smaller initial install base. In these cases the developers/publishers are betting on that this smaller install base will have a larger incentive of buying THEIR game along with the newly released console.


I'm just amazed at how many here that just can't understand simple economics. Money don't grow on trees you know.

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"Yeah cause reporting news from Famitsu has "no merit"..."

Well yes of course the news from Famitsu is accurate. I see you fail to understand the nature of a TABLOID. Joystiq posts real news then puts a sensasionalistic spin on it to attract attention, its does not matter if the conclusions they draw from their material has any truth to it or not.

Like the list of canceled PS3 games Joystiq links to in their article. Of course Joystiq knows no one really reads their links so they post anything. Like the list on "canceled" games includes for example Alan Wake from Remedy. Microsoft bought the rights to it, it was not canceled.

News like this is for fools like the poster above me, thinking the PS3 wont launch untli spring. He has probobly been reading news on the Inquierer and Joystiq and come to the conclusion that Sony is actually on the verge of bankrupsy and they are actually not releasing the PS3 because the Cell is not real and blu-ray is worse than dvd.

Places like this are filled with people who hate other companies for reasons so stupid no normal person would ever care.

Games are cancelled all the time, the diffence is when a game is cancelled for the PS3 blogs like joystig make a big deal out of some thing that's commonplace in the industry. So even if it's news, the way it's portrayed with that dumb picture, that's what makes joystig look anti-sony.

Ms bitches and wiitards along with dumb blogs like this one, want to make people think that it's all doom and gloom for the PS3. When the fact is that the ones that are bitching about the price are people who never meant to buy one in the first place. No matter how many crappy games are cancelled the PS3 will sell. Now if a game like MSG4 is cancelled, then I would be inclined to agree with you. But, until that happens your over the top stories with your fanboyish spin to them are going to look just like what they are fanboy rant.

Anonymouse Rep = balls being dropped on your face-all the time

This time last year we had a list of over dozen games that were def launching with the 360.

Can anybody even name 5 launching with the PS3? Can anybody even name one besides the non-confirmed Armored Core? I dont think so.

Well Pretty Obvious its pretty obvious your ignorant and uncapable of using google.

Heres a list of over 30 games that will be released from launch til the end of Q4 2006.
http://ps3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=21927&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Sony to the world: "Developers? We don't need no stinking developers! We'll sell this supercomputer with absolutely no games if we want to, just like we said! Developers...really...pfft. After the fifteenth version of the PS3 comes out you may just have the ability to surf the web! And you KNOW you'd rather watch Blu-ray movies than play games anyway, right?! You DAMN right! You know why? Because we said so! And you're just sheep that will do what we want, when we want and buy what we tell you to when we tell you, you got that?! We don't need YOU! I thought we already established that. I guess you're too STUPID to hear it the first time! Developers...really...pffffffft. Just look at our PSP! We've shipped more units than anyone else! And sold units don't count! By selling more DS units, all Nintendo has done is put themselves in a situation where they may not have units in the store when customers come in because they will all be sold! How can any business make money like that?! They can't!! Now give us all your money! NOW!"

And I'd just like to say, the picture fits the scenario. I'm not going to say the PS3 will fail, but to all the fanboys who say this kind of thing doesn't matter, I ask you this: What kind of library would PS2 have if all they had was AAA titles for it? More titles = More variety. With developers jumping ship, pardon the pun, you are losing variety whether you want to face it or not.

As for the addage that "Teh pS2 iz teh winr ovr teh 360 cuz teh 360 cant outcel it!!11 FTW!11one!", let me shed just a little light on the subject. Did you know that Honda Civics outsell Ferrari F-50's every year? By a TON. I guess the Civic must be the faster, better car because of that fact huh? Price? What does price matter, it outsold it!! ......$129 < $399. I'm SHOCKED the cheaper POS is outselling it. I say POS because I went through three before I sold all my games and gave Sony the big "F.U. I'm not buying a new system every damn year to play your crap!" treatment.

I have a Gamecube because I like Resident Evil and Fire Emblem. In my mid-twenties, Mario has lost a little appeal (though NSMB on DS was awesome). I bought the SYSTEM for the VARIETY. I predict Nintendo ftw this holiday over PS3, and 360 to be equal or close in sales with Nintendo thanks to a strong software lineup.

Sony has openly said they don't need games or fans. Time will tell if they are truly correct.

You're DAMN RIGHT. I'm tired of this whole Anti-Nintendo stance of....err, I mean, Anti-Microsoft....hmmm.

Dang, which month is it? I keep forgetting who we're supposed to accuse Joystiq of favoring this quarter.

Let's see now: Winter '05: Joystiq is anti-Microsoft
Spring '06: Joystiq is anti-Nintendo
Summer '06: Joystiq is anti-Sony
Fall '06: Joystiq is anti...umm...Phantom?

Wow. A veiled accusation of Nintendo fanboyism in the first post, and openly in the fifth. That has to be some sort of record.

I love how simply reporting *that someone else reported* that two games have been canceled is fanboying. That picture isn't meant to be inflammatory, it's meant to be something called a "joke". Look it up sometime.

I swear...you bloggers at Joystiq have NO IDEA what you are talking about. You are making it seem like that b/c 2 PS3 games were cancelled it is b/c everyone is ditching the platform.

If you guys would actually put stuff into context for once, you would MAYBE be able to realize that there are TONS of games that are cancelled (before launch) on other systems as well. Do you guys REALLY think that every 360 game in development will actually come out or has made it through the entire development cycle?

Think about it...it won't hurt.

wait wait.... master x 24 you say these guys developed metal wulf chaos, Otogi and Otogi 2 and ChromeHounds?!?

whew......


for a second there I thought this news might be important.

**** You guys are ignorant. ****

Do you really think these titles have any impact on the PS3 game line up or the launch...?

1. They were Japan only titles

2. There were no screen shots for these games. How much work do you think they actually had done?

3. PS3 will still have way more games than 360 had at launch.

4. Developers who have a low fan base or who traditionally don't make outstanding games, stray from PS3, first, because their talent is limited and, second, their games will be the last to be purchased. No big developer, or a developer worth its salt, will leave the PS3. Some may pushback titles but they will never drop completely.

Don't believe the hype watch what happened when the numbers start rolling in around March.

LOL @ Joystic owning the PS3, nice pic ;)

But seriously hough it would probably be cheaper to raise the original PS3 from the depths of the North Atlantic than buy one from the shops in november, hahaha.