OPM editor doesn't even want a PS3 ... yet

Matt, a little snippet below from the official FAQ on toshiba's site on the HD-DVD capabilities of that laptop:

HD DVD Technology.
Because HD DVD is a new format that makes use of new technologies, certain disc, digital connection and other compatibility and/or performance issues are possible. Advanced interactive and navigation features of the HD DVD Video format including, but not limited to, Picture in Picture (PIP) and network download features are not supported by this product. See Toshiba HD DVD model “Detailed Specs” at www.computers.toshiba.com for important information on HD DVD playback capabilities. HD DVD Application Logo (HD DVD-ROM) represents the optical drive’s conformity with the DVD Forum’s verification criteria for HD DVD physical format, and does not represent compliance with the HD DVD Video specification defined by the DVD Forum.

Advanced Access Content System (AACS) keys are integrated into your PC for copy protection purposes. Occasional renewal of the AACS key is required, and easily done by connecting to the Internet. Toshiba will provide AACS key renewal for your new PC for 5 years from the date of purchase by the original purchaser at no charge, after which key renewal will be available pursuant to the software player provider’s then current terms and conditions. For more information on AACS key, visit www.aacsla.com/home.

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Yup, quite nice in fact that they have a laptop out with at least HD-DVD reading capabilities. Do you happen to know if they have any HD-DVD burners out yet?

One thing that made me a bit worried: "Occasional renewal of the AACS key is required".

How often is "Occasional"?

One thing about that though that could be interresting is that it would suggest that the AACS-keys are easily changable. Which could mean that if some nice person discovers a method of easily generating working such keys... it wouldn't be too hard to "fix" a machine that no longer has access to a working set of such keys.

I would like to say I will get a PS3, but not until prices come down for her exact reasons.

Twoi reasons I believe Sony screwed up...

1) the following article is why blu-ray will fail (Like all their other proprietary-ish formats). This is not commercially viable at the moment, but it will be in a couple years. Bluray will be obsolete before it is mainstream.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/06/inphase-to-ship-300gb-holographic-drive/

2) $500 PS3 is not capable of being upgraded to match $600 PS3. So the $600 is really the only option to technophiles (which you would have to be to look at spending $600 on electronic entertainment console). The cheap 360 has all the capability of the premium version with added parts.

Bottom line: It will come down to the games. In this department, the 360 has the edge for at least another year. Argue all you want about the Playstation brand and 1080p and the coming format wars, it means very little to the majority of gamers, which is the point the OPM editor was making. Each system will have their cult following, but the 360 has the best shot at coming in first (outside Japan) because of its balance of next gen graphics and price. It's as simple as that. I'll go on the record even. Buy me a coke if I'm right, and I'll buy if I'm wrong.

There is no way the ps3 will fail, there i said it.yes it's expensive yes there seems to be tons of bad press about it but ultimately the playstation brand is strong enough keep it moving off shelfs.Take an ipod which essentially is an mp3 player that can now play movies.It's what 400/500 bucks for the 60gig and people buy them like it's nothing, cheap almost despite many other cheaper better options they willingly plunk down close to ps3 prices for something that will be out dated in six months when they come out with the newer option.

Why? maybe the same reason people buy h2's or Cadillac escalades (both piles of dung for the price), it's the newest in thing and the newest in thing come November will be the ps3.So maybe i can't afford it but there are thousands of pro athletes and wanna be's and people who are just trying to keep up with the Jones who will keep it afloat and keep it ahead of or in close proximity to the wii or 360.

The price will drop and better games will come out and it will take it's place on top of the pedestal so we can all predict the ps4's failure.

At a time when opinion on all sides is stronger than ever, it's refreshing to see such honesty. There is too much bias in single format publications. This gal shoud be promoted. The others need to go back to jounalism school.

Once again, I offer this appropriate YTMND:

http://chunkps3.ytmnd.com/

Sony's blowing this round, and it could easily be avoided if they weren't dead-set on pushing their media format.

One thing that gets me:
PS3 defenders point out all these wonderful stats about the ps3 and how it 'ownz' the 360.

It isnt even out yet (and even the beta units are rumored to not exist yet).

Every two weeks we hear about how sony is changing this and changing that. For example: the external powersource, Cell not being up to published specs, no definite pricing on games or online services.
- but yet sony fanboys are spouting Sony propaganda as facts.

Face it: Sony glouted the ps2 as it was suppose to be the end of gaming as we know it. The processor was suppose to be so powerful that Iraqi was buying them left and right to power thier scuds.

Now they are doing it with the ps3 and as the deadline for it comes closer and closer, we are seeing a lot of bubble bursting, insider news coming out of Sony. Ps2 repeat to me.

I'm sick of all these morons out there saying the PS3 is $600. If you truly don't care about BR movies than the $500 version is for you. It's not like the Xbox 360 where from a gaming perspective there's one without an HDD that is totally irrelevant. So there's only a $100 difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3. I personally think $100 more for a superior console is justified. At launch the PS3 will offer the same gaming experience as the Xbox 360 but the second generation and later PS3 games will distinguish themselves from the Xbox 360. That and the fact that the $500 version plays BR movies definitely justifies an extra $100.

As for the FORMER editor of the OPM I guess she's not smart enough to realize that some things are better left un said. Good luck to her with her new job probably with OXM.

AK...


Actually, Component is perfectly capable of outputting at 1080p. So is VGA (it's been doing it for a decade, actually). 1080p is NOT dependent on the signal being digital, and just because a signal is digital does not mean it's "better" by any means. They're just two different ways to pass the same information. A digital signal (HDMI/DVI) must still go through conversion before being sent through the cable. It's not a "pure" batch of information, and goes through the same amount of conversion-- just DIFFERENT conversion.

The problem is that Blu-Ray is hooked on being loaded down with two to three types of copy protection, and THOSE do not encourage (or in most cases, even allow) 1080p via component. The capability is there, but the WILL to do it is not.

Even so, hacks exist.

Now, here's why it doesn't matter: NO STUDIO IS GOING TO ALIENATE THE CURRENT INSTALLED BASE OF NON-HDMI HDTVs ON THE MARKET.

Simply put, the majority of HDTVs in homes right now do NOT have HDMI. People just invested thousands in this new technology, and being told that their HDTV which is less than a year or two old is now obsolete will KILL the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray markets dead.

It would be format suicide to require HDMI any sooner than 7 years from today.

As it is, many Americans are wary about adopting HD technology. Not all HDTVs today even offer HDMI yet. There are FAR TOO MANY displays that do not comply with the newer copy protection standards, and if the majority of displays don't support the new standards, then that means the majority of people will not invest in the media format at all- Why bother when they can't view it?

HDCP will not be turned on "all the way" until the first-gen HDTV owners are ready to buy a new display. Making them upgrade so soon would be the death of the format; I gaurandamntee it.

You know, I just think that the world isn't quite ready for HDMI, Blu-Ray and therefore the PS3.

For gods sake, half the world is at war, the other half is hoping the war doesn't come to their countries, let alone individual households wanting to spend shite loads of money on upgrading their game console, TV and home entertainment AGAIN!! Man didn't we all recently upgrade from VHS to DVD... ok, poor comparison... but the point here is once Sony & M$ get us used to upgrading (which we already are), the time frame WILL SHORTEN between every generation of gaming console...
I love my gaming... and I love improvements in the games industry, but I suspect this time around, by the time the developers really start to pump out the quality titles....the next gen console will be already out.

So..... go Nintendo! I think that through innovation NOT GRAPHICS, gamers will ultimately work it out (probably wishful thinking) and vote with their wallets.

This woman has good sense :), unless you've good reason for buying a PS3 at $500-600, DONT GET IT!
If you have the money for a PS3, still get an Xbox 360, because then you can choose if you want to get a HD-DVD drive or buy a Nintendo Wii along with it for the price of a single PS3. Plus, the power of the consoles is supposed to be pretty much the same and with the Xbox, you're 1 year ahead so at Christmas time you've already got buckets of choice for games, Xbox Live arcade titles and already millions of people playing Xbox Live!

OPM editor is a retard (and underpayed or cheap; then again, I'd go for cheap since she shouldn't be considered underpayed if she was mentally retarded anyway).

I don't give a shit if game journalism is about objectivity, it is not a "videogames mag" in general, it is an exclusive playstation mag - or is anyone criticizing Ken Weeks for being such a biased 360 fanboy? Hell no, he writes for 360 fanboy after all.

OPM... it is supposedly "official". It is supposed to give you reasons to buy a PS3, to tell you why all the shit that comes with it should satisfy you is so cool, just like Nintendo Power and Club Nintendo did for the Gamecube and N64, even when they (relatively) flopped. "Official" my ass.

Writing for an official playstation mag and not being a fan of the playstation products, but also supporting the competition in the magazine... that's plain idiocy. She reflects ignorance by saying that you get the same experience from both consoles... when one isn't even out yet, let alone that she should know the logical advantages that PS3 has over 360 (such as Blu-ray, which is said to be key, among developers, and a hard drive in every PS3, something developers wanted; anything else is too trivial).

She's a moron, and I hope she gets fired.

I think that what you are missing here in this debate is the fact that sony doesn't "really" need to show something big for launch. I mean, think carefully, there is 2 millions ,at most, of PS3 units available for launch, so the hype/loyality/"new console" syndrome are enough to move those units from shelves. After the launch, Sony is not stupid, they know their business, they will continue to support the PS2 whith amazing games coming in end 2006/ early 2007.

They know that they need one game, only one game that proves the superiority of PS3 in termes of graphics to launch the hype machine again and for good. This game for PS3 is MGS4 and Sony is working very closely with Konami on this one to ensure that this will happen (like what happened with mgs2/PS2). So I think it will be tough for them but I think they will succeed in the end.

@boots

I agree with your statement about her comment about similar experience. I cannot name two consoles that I have ever played that gave me similar experiences. All of them had unique games.

But she works for Ziff Davis media. The Official is just a title if whe is fired from that mag she will most likely swap places with an editor from another mag owned by Ziff..... probably 'Games for Windows' or EGM.

I think she should be fired simply put. You cant work at coca cola and write on your blog pepsi tastes better. Even if she was thinking it I beleive writing it for the entire world to read was a very stupid thing to do. She works for the Official Playstation Magazine, not just another gaming mag. Her comments look like nothing more than an attempt to gain attention.

Fanboys often dole out 'snake oil' type claims about their choice of console as pure fact. KawF has
made many such claims but when someone happens to be correct, I support them.

In this case, KawF is correct. Component is capable of carrying a 1080p signal and there are also a few televisions available
that are capable of accepting a 1080p component signal. Examples that I
am aware of are HP and Samsung. Both have had DLP RPTV models available
since the beginning of the summer that are capable of accepting and
displaying a 1080p signal from component. It should be noted however that signal degradation is a significant factor, shorter cable runs and decently sheilded cabling is important.

HP
MD6580, MD5880

Samsung
S7178W, S6767W, S6188W, S6187W, S5188W, R7178W

Anyway, there you have it.

This is hilarious. After reading the title of this article, two things came to mind.

1. No way its true, someone must have misread this.
2. If it is, this article is going to spawn a million comments.

The second was obviously true. It's been entertaining to say the least to make it through all the comments.

KawF:

You know man i got to give it to you. I've have never in my life seen someone so utterly devoted to a game console. I imagine this is similar to what it must have been like for the last soldiers in the Alamo trying to bravely stave off the Mexican attack. But why spend so much energy on it? I mean we both know the PS3 will not outright fail. It will succeed (and that only mean sell moderately well, not necessarily win the generation) not because it is technologically better, or even because it has better games. It will succeed because it's a Playstation. And frankly, i don't buy the technological superiority when frankly every developer puts them on a similar plane as far as power. The bluray drive does not make it any more competent a game machine.

Core Xbox/Premium Xbox vs Core PS3/Premium PS3:

No matter what anyone tells you of the situation above the only way a core can become a premium in "all" ways is the core xbox to premium xbox. Whether this ultimately hurts the PS3 remains to be seen.

1080P:

Been talked about to death and is ultmately a nothing bullet point. Most tv's dont support it, and to make games that push it without a serious amount of degradation in performance is not generally feasible. I wager most PS3 games will not push this resolution. And to be clear the GPU in the XBOX360 is very much capable of running a game at 1080P, but MS made a concious decision to have games only require 720P or 1080i because that is what makes most sense in today's enviornment.

PS3 Editor being fired:

Are you sony fans so utterly incensed that someone who shills your system might think that for her its not a good buy, to the extent that you wold want her fired? She edits the magazine and will likely do a great job in that regard, but she is intitled to her opinion in every sense but that in no way means she should be fired. And perhaps those that didnt read her blog should. She never once said a bad thing about the PS3 in general and she was giving honest reasons why its not a real necessity this Christmas. For people to come out enmasse to attack her for that says something....and it's not good.

logikil, I said she should be fired in an angry rant, but yes, I still think she should be fired because, as somebody below me, and somebody above you said on this message board, she is writting for an official Playstation mag that Playstation isn't worth it (stupidest idea ever), and only for that. If that's not enough for you, let's just agree to disagree here.

"doesnt anyone relize that prices of everything have gone up electronics, gas, food, cars, houses"
Electronics have not gone up in price. The cutting edge of electronics have always been pretty expensive, but over time, the same electronics become better and cheaper. You can buy a larger, higher quality TV today for for same amount of money (not accounting for inflation) than you could five or ten years ago. Even looking at game consoles, the past four generations of Nintendo home consoles have all been introduced at the same price, with the upcoming fifth console expected to debut at a slightly higher price point.

The price of the necessities of life and other non-discretionary expenses have gone up, yes. Cars and their related expenses, food, housing, education, medical care, etc., all have steadily risen in price.

It doesn't follow that people have more discretionary money to spend on things like a game console. If anything, your average person might even have LESS money to spend on such things, since for many people, salaries are not rising as quickly as the cost of living.

@ Socrates

Another Hardcore Fanboy defending his console.

"The difference between the PS3 and the Wii is like, eating at home instead of ordering take out 10 times."

Many of us prefer home-cooked meals. It just tastes better, and it's way cheaper.

logikil,

For once someone is making some sense. Thats why it is VERY stupid to be a fanboy. I'll tell you right now every TRUE gamer will enjoy both consoles (or buy when the price drops)

Can anyone really say "PS3 is garbage, I will NEVER play Gran Turismo, MGS4, or any other exclusives I like." Or that "360 is trash, I'll NEVER play Halo 3."

PS3 has faults that I will agree with, one SKU that can't be upgraded to the other SKU and price (it might be worth it, but is still out of reach for most people). No one can comment on the controller bc no one here has played a game with it. Stop being FANBOY's and start being GAMERS!

"There is no way the ps3 will fail, there i said it.yes it's expensive yes there seems to be tons of bad press about it but ultimately the playstation brand is strong enough keep it moving off shelfs." Striker

I'm sure Nintendo fans said the same thing before N64 launched, and we all know what happened there. The SNES had a huge fanbase, but Sony really ate into their market share with the Playstation. That may or may not happen with the PS3, but to say it has no chance of failure is just ignorant.

And your argument about people buying escaldes and $500 video Ipods is absolutely irrelevent. For starters, only a small portion of the population has that kind of money to blow. Most people have to deliberately save money just to afford a $200 Ipod. And secondly, even a smaller portion of that portion are gamers. How many gamers do you know have H2s and $500 Ipods? I know of none. That small portion is not going to win it for Sony... or MS or Nintendo. Whichever console comes in 1st, it is going to be because of the mainstream population, not the rich snobs who probably don't even play video games.

"I think she should be fired simply put. You cant work at coca cola and write on your blog pepsi tastes better." la

By your logic, a person who works at Best Buy can't shop at Circuit City. Your logic is flawed and people would have an extremely difficult time finding a job if they had to love the company they are working for. You are saying she should be fired because of her opinions and because of what system she will be playing with her personal time, outside of work. Just because she wants to buy a 360 first does not mean she cannot report the news fairly on the PS3 at her job. Go back to the drawing board, because this argument doesn't work.

"I'm sick of all these morons out there saying the PS3 is $600." by John

Well John, as of now people are quoting the PS3 as $600 because they believe the $500 version simply isn't worth purchasing. They don't want to risk having to buy seperate parts to upgrade the machine later if they have to. I'd say the biggest miss with the $500 version is the memory card bay. Yeah, if you have the cheap version good luck taking save files over to your friend's house. If people are going to quote the 360 as costing $400, then it is only fair the PS3 is quoted as $600.



I think my biggest gripe about the PS3's price is that it could have easily gone down another $100 if Sony had just taken the harddrive out entirely. And, they could easily get away with it if the PS3 does indeed use PC harddrives. I have several old harddrives just collecting dust that I could use to put in the PS3, which are no doubt larger than 20 gig.

Oh well, there aren't really any games I'm looking forward to for PS3 yet, anyway. I'm not a big fan of Metal Gears, Final Fantasies, or Giant Crabs. Maybe when the PS3 gets some killer titles and the price is cut in half I might consider it.

"...Maybe we aren't thinking about that yet, but Phil Harrison, the man behind Sony's worldwide studios, definately is. He said that "I'd be amazed if the PlayStation 4 has a physical disc drive," which really makes this console war useless. Who cares about HD-DVD or Blu-ray if in 5 or 10 years (depending on how long the PS3 actually lasts as an upgradeable system), we drop media storage discs entirely?"

LOL

#175
I'm sure the editor is a great person and all that but what she did was stupid and she embarrassed herself and her co workers.I'm sure people at Nintendo power own Sony products and what ever gaming mag ms has devoted towards the 360/xbox has people who own Sony and Nintendo products, there gamers it happens.But to be so dumb as to come out and rail against the thing that pays your bills regardless of the reason is worthy of sending her packing.
For a large majority of us we've only seen screen shots and specs and some video's of stuff thats gonna be on the ps3, I'd assume she probably played it and has some more info than the common blogger BUT she still has no idea what is gonna happen at tgs.If she made the entry after it came out and honestly gave it a try I'd understand but she didn't she bit the hand that feeds her so to speak and now she's on record saying it isn't worth it before giving it a fair shake.

#179
I stand by my statement, the playstation brand i believe is stronger than it's competitors and will sell very well because of it's newness and uniqueness.I in fact know plenty of people who play games who drive h2's (or bmw's) and have new 500 dollar ipods every six months.

I didn't mean to imply that component was incapable of transmitting 1080P signals, only that there are no televisions that can accept it over component.
However, Doc pointed out that there are a couple that can.
I cant verify the samsung's, because there website doesn't go into details, but the HP in fact does accept 1080P over component.

I was wrong, and I apologize.

#182. What color is the sky in your world?

She didn't 'rail against' the console, she said it wasn't worth buying this holiday. Not that she'll never buy it, or even that it's a bad system. Just too expensive. You have no more idea about what will happen at TGS than she does. And who's gonna spend 500+ bucks on a "try"?

So you think the PS3 is going to sell well because of novelty, brand strength, and 'uniqueness'.

Novelty; it's like the old one! Except uglier, more powerful, and more expensive! I gotta have some a' dat!
Brand strength; You have a 500+ dollar machine next to a $400 360, with no immediately apparent difference. Oh sure, that'll sell well to everyone but hardcore gamers.
Uniqueness; See novelty. But with controller features ripped off from Microsoft and Nintendo.

Wanna try again? This time with logic?

Sony may have great brand recognition, but I don't think it will be strong enough to maintain that number 1 spot.

I think the PS2 was such a huge success not because of just one thing or another, but because Sony seemed to have everything going for it that generation. I'll list the reasons I think PS2 was a success, in no particular order:
1) Sony had a 1 year lead on the competition: Say what you will on whether or not this was a deciding factor, but regardless, it helped. By the time GC and XBox came out, PS2 had some killer games for it and a whole year's library of other games, not to mention several million PS2 sales before the competition even started.
2) The price was very competitive: Although not as cheap as the GC (actually, I think by the time it was launched, both consoles were priced $200, but I could be mistaken), the PS2 was definitely affordable, and it took MS quite a while to bring the price down to a competitive level with the PS2.
3) It doubled as a cheap DVD player: PS2 was conviently timed that the DVD tech wasn't TOO expensive to put in the PS2, but at the same time DVD players were still expensive. This meant if someone wanted a DVD player, they might just buy a PS2 and get the games system as a bonus. This attracted many new gamers I believe.
4) Backwards Compatibility: Unlike Nintendo, Sony's PS2 was backwards compatible with the PSone. This added extra value to new consumers (because they could buy and play PSone games too), and to PSone owners because they could still keep their old games.
5) Developers' Support: Whether it was because of the early lead or not (I think it was), the PS2 garnered HUGE support from developers. This gave the PS2 the largest video game library of any console, and made the PS2 look like an even better buy.

Now, the PS3 is launching a year later than the competition, the price (compared to the other consoles) is NOT competitive, it may be a cheap BluRay player but not a cheap HDDVD alternative (HDDVD players are $500), and so far the developers' support, although still good, seems to be depleting. PS3 still has backwards compatability going for it, which I'm sure will help PS2 owners stay loyal. But at the same time many PS2 owners feel betrayed that the price is literally twice that of what the PS2 was.

I'm not saying the PS3 is doomed or anything. It still could become the number one console this generation. I'm just saying that the reasons the PS2 became number one will not transfer over with the PS3. The PS3 will have to be successful for different reasons, and I doubt appealing to the rich minority will help them that much, if any.

Hopefully That will be her last comment you dont build fords but drive chevys i just lost all respect for opm.

I can't believe that there are people here who want to end a person's job and perhaps career because of an opinion in an EDITORIAL.

It doesn't matter if it is an EDITORIAL, and it's not like a Best Buy employee buying at Circuit City; now that we're all about analogies though, it's as if a PR Marketing rep of Best Buy openly says that "it is not worth it to shop with us right now... I go to Circuit City for that". Even if that was his opinion, he should shut the hell up about it because being explicit on it would be like biting the hand that feeds you, especially when you are (relatively) important to the company; and that's why this piece of shit editor should be fired, and that's being nice to her.

I'm not being a fanboy here, it's just common sense that when you hold an important position, you have to be responsible about what you say. I would immediately fire this editor for badmouthing the product that she is supposed to look up to, one that she is supposed to review every single day, one that she would want to succeed (after all, she should be a fan of the PlayStation brand name to work there, in the first place), because if she didn't, then what the hell is she doing working at OPM in the first place? She should go to OXM instead.

And by the way, I find it retarded to say that the 400 Premium 360 is not crippled, but that the 500 PS3 *is*. Neither have HDMI, but all PS3s have a hard drive and a blu-ray drive, yet not all 360s have a hard drive (making the hard drive on *some* consoles near useless for developers), let alone an HD-DVD player which won't even be used for games anyway. Now, I hope you can draw non-retarded conclusions.

I thought Sony just announced the PS3 wouldn't be able to play commercial BlueRay movies?

AK, we need more people on these forums that can admit they can be wrong sometimes! I wish more followed your example.
Anyway, just for information purposes for people that are looking, the samsung product pages have a 'download spec sheet' link to a pdf where it lists 1080p component input.

Jonn with two n's you screwed the numbers up 182 wasn't me.But anyway yes you are right i have no idea what will happen at tgs and i assume nor does she.Which makes her comments even more retarded, for all we know sony could drop the price and announce some killer games but did dana the editor of the official playstation magazine wait a a few weeks before passing final judgment? no she didn't.So like I've said before if she came to this conclusion after the release or close enough to the release that her points about price and what not were set in stone then more power to her but as of now things can change and her comments were dumb.

And please jonn with two n's explain to me how sony ripped off a technology that has been out for upwards of ten years.Wireless motion sensing controller are nothing new, the wiimote is just a pretty package with a bunch of pretty old tech inside.Nintendo didn't invent it or patent it and they are not the first to try it.Nobody claims the xbox ripped sony off when they used dvd's for there games or Nintendo ripped Sony off when they made the wii sit upright.So maybe it's you who should use some f'in logic

This is so funny get a life people stop talking about it as if its out already and stfu. This always happends when a system is not out yet till the day its out just shut up. It is a great console as far as inside the machine goes you keep crying and ms sony and nintendo will say buy a $2000 computer because were tired of your mouths lmao. your getting alot for what you get some of you need 1 a job and 2 a life. enjoy noob cakes.

This is so funny get a life people stop talking about
it as if its out already and stfu. This always happends when a system is not out yet till the day its out just shut up. It is a great console as far as
inside the machine goes you keep crying and ms sony and nintendo will say buy a $2000 computer because were tired of your mouths lmao. your getting alot for what you get some of you need 1 a job and 2 a life.
enjoy noob cakes.

To Nootaru at #19 up there, The argument that it is $200 either is ridiculous and comparing apples to oranges. The $500 PS3 is most closely comparable to the $400 Xbox360. They both have Component video, they both have wireless controllers, they both have 20 GB hard drives. The $300 xbox does not have the last two of those things and cannot even play all Xbox360 games without added hardware. The $500 PS3 is in every way adequate for the majority of game buyers and can play every game released for the PS3 and is superior in video capability and game capacity to the $400 Xbox360. Everything added by the $600 model is completely optional until at least 2011 and every added feature has no equivalent in any released model of the 360.

The HDCP will not be required by bluray movie discs until 2011, so every argument for requiring HDMI is moot until then. Even after 2011 you will be able to play every game at full 1080p resolution with the $500 PS3. The newly released Bluray movies will be restricted to 480p after that though.

If for no other reason than the fact she should have known better than to make a comment like that.

Sony is really gambling with their future by focusing more on Hollywood than games! So far, they've already gotten 75 blue-ray movie titles set for launch by the time the PS3 comes out. Yet, PS3 games are constantly getting canceled or delayed.

And how about price? I recently spoke to a buddy of mine who still works as a supervisor for GameStop in NYC. he told me that the ball park figure for PS3 games will be around $80 to $100. I didn’t want to believe it either. just call any reputable store that carries video games and ask. With prices like that, Sony has got to be kidding!!

These guys just don't seem to understand that this freakin' blue-ray business is what has caused the Wii to earn so much hype. Think about it. The X-box 360 isn't even considered a contender in the next gen console war. So that leaves us with the choice- PS3 or Nintendo Wii?? From the 1st introduction of the Wii, Nintendo has been all about video games. Those guys don't believe in gambling. They just want to make stuff gamers enjoy- fun games! $600?? F blue-ray!!

I can't beleive how these guys at Sony just can't see that they're about to give Nintendo the throne back! That's what happens when you lose focus on the consumer and become obsessed with competitors and presumed profit margins.

I still can't afford a freakin PSP because Sony refuses to acknowledge that gameplay beats graphics- probably the reason why the DS is pouncing on Sony in hand held sales right now.

The bottom line is that somewhere Sony stopped caring as much about video gamers and became obsessed with producing a machine that could cook, clean, do your homework and file your nails- as if that was suppose to stifle the competition. Im so dissapointed with their dumb assess!!!

I've owned a PS2 for years and while I enjoyed the games I was also burned by the defective substandard components. There's no way I'd put $600 on the PS3. First it will have to be in the field for a while so we can determine how poorly made it is. Secondly the price will have to come down.

The whole Linux thing is nonsense. Sony dragged their feet on releasing the Linux kit for the PS2, then overcharged for it. In the end it was a badly outdated version of Linux which Sony made no effort to keep up-to-date.

I really don't care whether games come out at the same time for whichever console I own. So maybe GTAx will come out for console Y first, and the rest later. If mine is one of the rest I'll get it when it comes. I'm not going to spend hundreds of Dollars just to get a game earlier.

Can't we all just agree that we want to play Zelda on Wii in 16:9?

I'll take that any day over a $600 system that needs a $2500+ TV to get the most value out of it.

that editor chick better hope that she still has a job after that article.

I feel Sony doesn't even care if they lose the console war. They are using the PS3 to sell their blu-ray technology. As long as the PS3 sells Blu-ray dvds, the PS3 will be a success in their eyes. All they want the PS3 to do this generation is to help them win the new dvd format war. That's why they aren't marketing this thing to mass-consumers.

They've put a lot of money into Blu-Ray and they don't want Blu-Ray to turn into BetaMax. I feel that's their only goal this generation.