Will we see a DS MP3 player this October?

@ Silver R. Wolfe.

Actually, by my count DS has more.

Sure, JUST in the 8 category...but in the 8+ category including the 9's DS has more.

Which is pointless cause it's just IGN's rankings which are hardly all inclusive.

The fact that a cripplingly buggy game like Madden on the PSP still made it to an 8 is evidence enough.

PSP's got it all and I love it. Isn't that all that matters?

Cool. It's PLAY-YAN verson 3. It also works with the Game Boy Advance/Micro/SP. Look at the box.

They finally integrated the multiple skins as part of the program and not a seperate file. They also fixed it so the high speed 2GB cards work on it; but haven't patched it for SDHC yet. I hope they release the 2GB patch file for the older Play Yan devices. It works on the DS/DS Lite; but it most likely displays in just one screen. They removed MP4 capability to soften the price and to allow them to redesign the main engine the unit uses. I think I will stick with my Play-Yan.

Although I do not watch movies, or listen to music on the go with either the Play-Yan or my PSP; because I now have a 60GB iPod with Video as well.

I noticed on the box images that it specifically says "Nintendo DS Lite" on it, and for some reason that makes me think that they might have designed to be flush with the system.

49. The fact that it uses SD cards intregues me, as the Wii will also support SD cards. I am thinking maybe Nintendo will include a ripping feature in the wii, to rip CDs to SD then place them in your DS all without a computer.

Posted at 5:20PM on Sep 3rd 2006 by Will 0 stars

What exactly is intriguing? The DS has been using SD cards since it came out. The cartridges are just flash memory. I highly doubt there will be a ripping feature, since it would make it easier to pirate games, and Nintendo is paranoid about that stuff.

"I'd rather have a PSP. For the cost of all these add-ons and the DS (for people who don't already own eith handheld) the PSP would be the better deal. " Silver

I think your math is a bit off.

DS Lite $130
+ MP3 Player $40
= $170

PSP (bare-bones package w/o memory sticks) = $200

Also keep in mind _both_ systems will require you to buy memory cards, so both systems are a more expensive alternative to actually buying a standalone MP3 player.

I have a Creative Zen Micro for MP3s, so I could care less. Having an on the go movie player would be kinda cool, but I'm not going to buy a PSP for it. I still think multimedia functionality on gaming devices is stupid, because you're gonna end up paying a lot more than for a device that was made specifically for multimedia functions, and its not likley to be as good either. You're paying more money for crappier functionality... no thank you.

"PSP's got it all and I love it. Isn't that all that matters?"

Who knows..People will always insist on aruging which is better. And both sides backing themselves up with IGN? Laff.

I have both PSP and DS, and I just spent a few hours playing Tekken on PSP. Would I ever find something like that on DS? I'm sorry but PSP is just better, end of story

I have both PSP and DS, and I just spent a few hours playing New Super Mario Bros on DS. Would I ever find something like that on PSP? I'm sorry but DS is just better, end of story

No, you wouldn't find a shitty excuse of a fighter like Tekken on DS..I guess that is one of it's ups. I still play my PSP more.

10) No chance it's flush with the Lite using SD memory, in that case the M3 and Supercard teams would use those aswell. Better get a supercard lite than this.

I use my DS lite for games, my digital camera for pictures, my Palm T|X for portable wifi browsing/productivity/MP3, my Palm Treo 650 for phone, internet/mp3 and productivity. I use my X360 for HD Gaming and I will use my Wii for all other gaming and other functions /lmao. I might get the PS3 for either bragging rights or just to see wtf all the Sony Jabronis are talking about. And I'm gonna get the 'Full' version of the PS3, why shortchange myself? So either way I guess I will have all of them except for the PSP because my Palm T|X and Palm Treo do everything it does but only better with other things on top of that.

*stands up and claps for EP's reply to Cheese's comment*

Listen, Do you people not see you are ruining the industry? If you want a game system by a game system, stop asking for all in one cool tools. Why should you stop asking for this? The answer is easy, gaming is a relativly new game medium, and can't handled being everything to everybody outside of gaming all at once at this juncture. In other words you are giving companies excuses and reasons not to produce great games on the idea that what you want is some sort of instrument that supports your life instead of your hobby, kinda like a cell Phone or a PDA.

You are also causing the game console makers to compete in markets that they don't belong, mp3 directly goes against Ipod, why should a game handheld even be going against apple, when they don't need to. In the end all you are really asking for is that the console makers concentrate less on gaming, which should get their full focus. In return developers think they can get a free ride on this machine cause people care more about features than actual games. The same way you don't get excellent games on cell phones just passable or just horrible.

The fact is gamers are causing other companies to look at gaming as a machine to manipulate the gamer, with out making an effective game playing machine. Just look at EA's and Sega's comments, towards the PSP. There is so many knick-knacks and gadgets that don't directly go towards gaming they feel they can get over on the gamers with out trying, so much so they admit to backing the PSP for success while supporting it with piss poor titles. Further comments from them don't speak of them creating better games, but instead peer pressuring sony into dropping the price on a system they are already losing money on.

Our thirst to be more than just gamers is hurting the industry, we actually want to support. Let the game companies concentrate on gaming first, and then when that becomes second nature to them, maybe consider added features not linked to gaming. And please don't look at this and give some sort of crazyed fanboy rant, I am writing this cause I don't agree with the DS coming out with a MP3 player or a web browser. The my reason why really is because the of the PSP poor state. That could have been a great system, but it never really got a fighting chance because it was trying to be everything to everyone at once. Yes sony shipped alot of Units, and yes they are second to Nintendo in japan, first in American if you go by certain numbers. But if we are going to count things that way, GameCube did awesome, with its install base and lack of third party and still turning a profit, with out many hit games. When we look at that rationally that is utter B.S. and sony isn't even, turning a profit, we are saying they are doing great when it is only a two system race.

Sony is losing money on the PSP, people are not buying the games, let alone the system, yet it has big 3rd party support, a strong machine, and a popular brand name. Sony made the mistake of hitting to many markets at once, forcing competitors, to attack back, and gamers to retract. Let game makers do what they do best, instead of trying to please everybody and we will get better systems. So I hope an MP3 player never comes out for the DS, not an Ipod with gaming abilities.

DS Lite MP3 Player = Complete waste of time and money.

I mean, why would spend 40 bucks so that you can drag around your DS Lite in your pocket listening to MP3 tunes when you can just buy an MP3 player for the same amount?

In my opinion, this add-on is for the same dumb children who waste their money on those crappy Game Boy Advance cartoon video cartridges.

Uh, for browsing the web I'll go with the PSP hands down. Why? Are you serious? How are you going to fit a web page on that screen? Sure it can display text fine, but to read an article on joystiq you would need to scroll roughly 4 miles to read everything. Not to mention trying to view any sort of graphic on it would require scrolling a ton. PSP even has issues displaying web pages and reformatting width to fit, but DS? heck no.

Although, the DS would have a waaaay better text entry. I would pick DS for web navigation easy, but not for viewing.

As far as .mp3 goes, if you have a PSP, you know that music is good, not great on it. PSP needs better folder system and just a generally competent, featured player to compete. What do I want out of PSP? how about a graphic equalizer, vizualizations, playlists, favorites and ranking of songs, ect. Then it would really be an ipod killer. But it just plain isn't.

The DS I somewhat doubt the output quality of what sound can be on it. I just don't think the DS is capable enough to really pump out quality audio, but I could very easily be wrong. Also, price wise, you guys are talking about $30 cheaper, and you have to swap out media to play it. You'd have to take your rumble pack out to listen to music, then swap it back if you want it again. PS does have the inbuilt advantage there, and you can listen to music in-game if supported.

I dunno, for web and .mp3, I think I'll go with PSP. But Sony, if you are reading this: PLEASE open up more space for browser cache. I know there is more memory available in system memory, LET USE USE IT.

Sadly even if USA has a big market for this I don't see this ever coming over here.

No MP3 player, no Language tranlator, no Web Browser and having to wait the MOST for new color DS lites....

Reggie doesn't love us :-(

Brad Lee, again I think math is a bit off.

PSP core - $200
(With Internet, Movie player, MP3 player)
+ 2GB Duo - $80

TOTAL - $280


DS Lite - $130
+ MP3 player - $40
+ Internet - $40
+ Movie Player - $35
+ 2GB SD card - $80

TOTAL - $320

It's all about opinions when it comes to which system is better. I haven't touched my DS in months, but use my PSP daily. SO, for me, the PSP was worth the price, and the fact I don't have to pay for add-ons all the time is nice also. I have reasons for not liking Nintendo and the DS, but that's neither here-nor there. Calling the DS like the PSP in terms of functionality just isn't right. WHile the DS is gaining more functionality, it's not stuff I want to pay for. I'm not going to buy a GPS or Camera for my PSP either, because it's neither wanted nor needed (even if Portable Ops is going to support GPS).

@ Rubaiyat

I did count from 8 and above, but I didn't count each version of Nintendogs. It's the same game with different pooches. :D

@ Brad Lee

I was also referring to the web browser attachment.

Someone give zsavior a star (again) for being so neutral in this sea of fanboys!




"DS Lite - $130
+ MP3 player - $40
+ Internet - $40
+ Movie Player - $35
+ 2GB SD card - $80

TOTAL - $320"

That's why all of this is optional. You can CHOOSE which one's you want, and which one's you don't. Thankfully, most people use the DS for gaming only. Besides, I doubt this will come to USA anyway.

22) Just get "any" flashcart except this one and you can convert and play movies with moonshell on the DS without any external devices or stuff sticking out.

31) Best would be if they just let us use L and R for next (and previous/pause) song, then you wouldn't have to open it.

53) And in any case this player + 2GB SD would probably be cheaper than 2GB memorystick since the later format is so fucking expensive.

65) I don't give a shit about browser in either of PSP or DS.

DS lite + G6 lite = $210, PSP + 512MB memorystick = $220 maybe.

But only one of the systems got many games I want to play.

67) On the other side a DS in the USA is $130 and here it's more like $220. But you could always import one from Europe if you don't mind our prices...

For the MP3-player just get a G6/M3/Supercard instead, they would probably all be better and play movies and more aswell. I don't care about the browser but import it if you want it. Since it uses the GBA slot it might be better to get the DS-link or DS-extreme instead of the other flashcarts for MP3s and movies.

we are europerns, and we do travelling lots.

You USA are just lazy ass who travels their local cities.

Therefore we would like to having something less to carry with. So PSP is the answer.

PSP all the way... We are Europeans, and we do travelling country by country lots on the train, plane or boat.
You USA are just lazy ass who travels their local cities by thirsty car.
Therefore we would like to have something less to carry with in the back pad. So PSP is the answer.

PSP all the way...

"DS Lite - $130
+ MP3 player - $40
+ Internet - $40
+ Movie Player - $35
+ 2GB SD card - $80

TOTAL - $320"

even so, 2GB SD cards arent that much :/
best buy is having a memory card sale right now and sandisk and sony 2GB memory sticks are at $85 and sandisk 2GB SD cards are at $45. even so if you go to newegg.com, lowest price memory stick is around 60 dollars while sd card is 30.

plus...why did you add the movie player there too? if you are referring to the play-yan micro or something then you wouldnt need the above mp3 player because the play-yan also plays mp3s.

iceatcs: "PSP IS BETTER BECAUSE U YANKS R LAZY ASS. PSP NUMBER ONE ALL THE WAY. ^_^"

PSP may be "less to carry", but it's less the quality..Where does nationality even come in?

When I read this post I thought about a few things:

1: I've been meaning to buy an mp3 player
2: Most of which are either too expensive (ipod) or don't have enough storage or seem too cheap.
3: Love my DS and will be getting a Lite in a few weeks (stupid paycheck)
4: This thing comes with a headphone port built-in? All I see is great crontrol over music while using my DS and when not in my DS maybe it could be what ammounts to an iPod shuffle?

The Nintendo DS F*** PSP

"we are europerns, and we do travelling lots.

You USA are just lazy ass who travels their local cities.

Therefore we would like to having something less to carry with. So PSP is the answer.

PSP all the way... We are Europeans, and we do travelling country by country lots on the train, plane or boat.
You USA are just lazy ass who travels their local cities by thirsty car.
Therefore we would like to have something less to carry with in the back pad. So PSP is the answer.

PSP all the way..."









First off, learn your basic sentence format and try to make something legible.

Second, who gave you the idea that Americans don't travel? And why would you think we would be so self centered to NOT see the world? Yeah, I know we elected Bush, but the majority of votes came from no-good rednecks (Kerry for '08!).

Also, Americans take cruises, long drives in the country (with hybrid cars might I add). Americans use the subways all the time (especially New Yorkers, like myself) as the only form of transportation. And we definately use planes as a form of transportation. That's why we were attacked on 9/11 with jet planes (I'm not going into *that* anymore. My condolances goes out to anyone who lost friends or family on that tragic day. Never forget that, ever.).

If you like the PSP, that's fine with me. I on the other hand, will be enjoying what the DS was built for, quality games.

PSP has a better screen for movies and Memory Sticks are still a pain in the ass, but for guys like me who already have a PSP with 4 GB MS pro, DS lite , I guess i'll go the PSP's way for the mp3s or my 60 GB iPod, but i'd love if some kind of external 2.5' 100 GB Hard-disk(in my back pack) compatible with the PSP comes out. DS is for games, the web-browser sucks, no audio, no flash, even my Cellphone browser is better than DS Browser.

So, according to me the DS is for kiddy Games(Mario Kart, Pheonix Wright, etc), PSP for kick-ass top graphics, action and Classic Game collections(Capcom, EA, PSone-7000+), iPod 60 GB w/ video for mp3s, or Video. Let us remember 100% Convergence is impossible.

*Fanboy Flames Extinguished*

Ameen,
http://www.gamebot.co.nr ,
http://tech.jhatkaa.com .

#64, i think you fail.. again

PSP core - $200
(With Internet, Movie player, MP3 player)
+ 2GB Duo - $80

TOTAL - $280


DS Lite - $130
Supercard Lite - 50 Dollars ( Can Play Music, Games, and Run the DS Browser (Homebrew) all perfectly) + You get homebrew unlike the PSPoop. Unless you want 1.5, which takes away internet.
+ 2 GB MicroSD - $100

TOTAL - 280

Same Price + You get games.. failure
And it could be cheaper if you simply got something else.. (less memory)

Got my M3 lite today - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1099073470768733959&hl=en

at first i read this wrong, but the way i read it is the way id buy it.

integrate the mp3 player in the expansion memory for the webbrowser, and ill buy it.