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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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This reminds me of Bill Clinton on MTV.

If the young voters can increase their presence at the polls, their issues and concerns *will* be addressed during the campaign process. Will that attention carry through once the candidate is elected? Probably not. Corporations fund those campaigns and corporations will always have legislation swing in their favor.

If the young voters can *sustain* a high voter turnout election-after-election, we might see some of our issues actually addressed via legislation toward the *end* of politicians' terms. Even *that* would be a welcome change.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 12:24PM falcomadol said

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MMO players abandon their jobs and families to play online. They empty their savings when their employers sack them for calling in sick the fiftieth time. They wouldn't notice the apocalpse unless their server farm in Virginia happened to be nuked or their network cables were chewed through by the monstrous zombie squirrels that will inherit the earth.

What in the world has convinced people that MMO players are willing to leave the house to vote?
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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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I wouldn't say "no one cared much" about Meetup.com prior to 2004 ... It's probably more accurate to say that people "didn't know about" Meetup.com back then.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 1:23PM (Unverified) said

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Lovely generalization there J.Goodwin. Because of course all MMO players are exactly as you described.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 4:09PM (Unverified) said

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Goodwin,
Perhaps you've forgotten that several places had been working on the idea of online voting. Of course, there's still plenty of kinks to work out in that idea.

Still, it's clear that despite all the negative hoopla and misconception about a variety of media, many people are beginning to look beyond the "expected" use of that media and put the media to their own uses. From getting out propaganda messages, to messages looking for some form of sympathy, to informing people about important issues, to even spreading hate and ignorance. This is just evidence that people are thinking of a wider range of uses for the media out there. I can't say it's necessarily a bad thing. After all, not everyone who plays MMOs are as you describe.

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Posted: Sep 27th 2006 7:32PM Ghede said

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one question... How do we know he was actually controlling the avatar in second life? why not hand it to a well-payed lackey? Most presidential hopefuls don't write their own speeches... couldn't this just be the next step?
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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 4:45PM (Unverified) said

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Goodwin - generalize, much?

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Posted: Sep 8th 2006 6:34PM (Unverified) said

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"Perhaps you've forgotten that several places had been working on the idea of online voting. Of course, there's still plenty of kinks to work out in that idea."

Online voting?

Maybe when we can get the fucking offline voting machines to be correctly used, then the idea is plausible. Until then, online voting is like the nGage. It looks like a good idea, but no one is gonna use it.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2006 9:16AM (Unverified) said

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Devian, like I said, there's plenty of kinks.
Here's one article from 2004 about the temporary dropping of the idea to allow military personnel to use online voting. There have been similar arguments for non-military personnel as well.

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/020504d2.htm

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Posted: Sep 10th 2006 7:06PM (Unverified) said

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I think its cool that atleast the guy is trying.
most other political jerks (like hillary) would rather blow up second life, than atleast try to get around in it to meet the people that do spend their time there.
I give him props
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Posted: Sep 9th 2006 1:18PM GenBanks said

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Joystiq, you are always coming up with such cool thoughts about gaming :p

This is totally true- sometimes, as I'm playing Counter Strike: Source, I wonder whether in 20-30 years when I'm at a ripe enough age to get involved in politics, it could be considered acceptable to have a 'game meet', where the politician can meet on a server or something in which they could chat and play alongside the guy running for office. People would feel that they are doing something really personal with that politician (since people usually game in their homes, privately) and can be impressed whith the candidate if he does well for the team and behaves in a respectable friendly way online.

I know it's far-fetched, but it certainly is possible in a future when every generation has had some contact playing and enjoying video games in a way that only a small minority do now.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2006 11:58PM (Unverified) said

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Devian, there's nothing technologically or procedurally difficult about online voting. It's just that Diebold and others are doing such a piss poor job at it that there's the illusion that it can never work.

If banks can do online and electronic banking, technologically a much more difficult problem, online voting is completely achievable now.

The absence of online voting, IMHO, is just evidence of the forces of nature that makes Mark Warner's virtual campaigning so unusual; politicians live in the freakin' stone age.

In addition to that, I also happen to think there's political unwillingness to enable voting in a medium that overwhelmingly is favored by young people. Politicians are fearing what would happen to their "careers", if all these slackers started voting in droves all of a sudden. They have no clue on how to react to such an environment, so they're fighting tooth and nail against it.

As for Mark Warner's appearance...I think it's incredibly encouraging he's using social media and virtual worlds, such as Second Life, to engage his audience. Maybe he already is "pro-gaming", but I'm pretty sure he's developing a stonger understanding towards the role of video games (I know Second Life is not really a game) in our society. His involvement should only be good for gamers. He's less likely to join with blowhards like Joe Lieberman next time some asshat brings up a new "think of the children" anti-video gaming law.
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Posted: Sep 10th 2006 10:55AM (Unverified) said

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I think Warner going on SL is a clever strategy to get on the gaming culture radar. Some gamers may be familiar with whom Mark Warner is, but now those who participate in SL or read Joystiq, Gamepolitics, or any other source that covered the event, are definitely going to remember Warner if, indeed, his name comes up for candidacy in 2008. "Isn't he the guy that went onto that game and blah, blah, blah?"

Personally, I think it is a win-win situation. He wins by gaining attention in the gaming world. Gamers win b/c it is tacit approval from a slice of America (i.e. politicians) who generally don't quite get the gaming culture. Gamers are an untapped population that can garner some much needed numbers come election day.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2006 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for the quote, Dennis. For those who missed it, here's some of my video and pics from the event:

http://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2006/08/short_video_of_.html
http://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2006/08/governor_warner_1.html

Time to print up some shirts that say "I'm a g@mer and I v0te."
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Posted: Sep 11th 2006 2:21PM (Unverified) said

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Also, it's worth noting that Exley's comments about low turnout are patently inaccurate and uninformed. The turnout peaked at about 50, which was the *cap* set beforehand for the appearance by the event managers, to maintain an optimal experience. (Over 50 in a single area, lag and crowd control become a huge factor to worry about.)
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