According to a Famitsu report, Hideo Kojima estimates that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will need at least another year's worth of development time before it's finished. While Kojima had previously promised to deliver in 2007, he's narrowed that window to late 2007 -- at the earliest. For now, Konami is offering a new trailer, which is currently premiering at Tokyo Game Show.The new trailer -- partially captured in bootleg form from the show floor here & here -- is allegedly 100% gameplay, although Konami has tweaked the camera perspective for clarity. At just 6 minutes, it's significantly shorter than the E3 presentation, but reveals new gameplay elements, including stealth items (e.g. an oil drum), the Octocam suit, and a shift from stealth-orientated missions to player's choice gameplay (i.e. you have a goal and are free to decide how to achieve it).
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Why would I buy a console that doesn't have games I want to play? MGS and FF are the main reasons I want a PS3, if they are delayed, so will my purchase be. This is actually good news for me in that there should be a good price drop or two by the time it comes out.
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I'm psyched for this game and many others to come from sony, and since this game is delayed, I too can delay my purchase. Hooray.
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you can tell from a youtube video taken off a handicam? lets see how good gears of war and crysis look from a handheld cam put on youtube....
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actually, that should be "Konami is my mommy". and yes, i'd buy a PS3 alone for that game. But Konami is no fool and if the XBox 360 turns up to win this round, i'm sure Konami will deliver a port to the console. I'm sure this waiting has something to do with it.
things are truly bad for Sony if it loses this highly anticipated game...
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Wow, it's like people are actually buying consoles to play games!?!?! TIME TO MAKE A BREAKING STORY ABOUT PEOPLE BUYING CONSOLES TO PLAY GAMES!!!!!!!
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You are judging it on a shacky cam via youtube? You are dumb on so many levels, including several never found until you planted a flag there just. I feel more stupid after reading your post.
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The only issue is that Sony doesn't own FF or MGS, thus they could easily move to another console. Not the same for Halo or Zelda.
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Personally I think the animations look terrible right now, but then again after a year's time worth of development I think Kojima Productions will have something far more polished as a finished product.
Sony probably pressured Kojima's team to give them some gameplay, well, there is such a thing as too early for your own good.
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you can tell from a youtube video taken off a handicam? lets see how good gears of war and crysis look from a handheld cam put on youtube....
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Just an fyi but animations look the same no matter how potentially shaky the cam may be.
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You mean a game that only sells about 2 million on a console with a 100 million installed base isn't the end all be all of console sales?
I was talking about MGS, but it'd apply to FF too.
GTA, now THAT is a system mover.
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Gears of War - year after XBOX360
Halo 3 - damn near two years after launch
- Give it a break.
- The game looks awesome and instead of trying to find insults about the PS3 games, XBOX360 should be creating games that will attract more customers. I would buy a XBOX360, but there just hasn't been enough to make me pull the trigger over getting a PS3 or Wii. Sorry guys, you're in for a pounding after this Christmas.
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I would say there are less than a handful of titles on any system that trump the production value of MGS2 and MGS3, and they've been out for some time now. And please spare me the Gears of War argument, because the game isn't even out yet. While I am looking forward to playing it, it could very well end up being a flop.
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*walks away shaking head*
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Still...zippy in game footage...
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anyway, the point is they have been selling this game based on those cutscene trailers saying what the ps3 is capable of. yeah, capable of for cutscenes. IF this is actual game play, it doesn't come anywhere near those cutscenes. just like killzone won't, just like madden 06 for 360 didn't. those cutscenes are marketing strategies, nothing more. then when actual gameplay like this is supposed to be comes out, and it looks like shit, people are pissed and the flame wars begin. if MGS4 ends up looking like the CUTSCENES they have shown so far, then i will buy a ps3 to play that game. because then i will know that it is capable. but right now, i don't see anything tell me it looks or plays any better than a 360, which i already have. and MGS4 or Final Fantasy so far isn't enough to make me buy something else. although, i'll buy the wii for mario galaxy and red steel because it's $250. lol
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har har.
americans are so stupid... MGS is not another lame FPS and FF games have far deeper gameplay and story than any boring MMORPGs that strive for online communities of losers...
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........of course not why would i spend 600 dollars when all of your arguments are so full of facts and are convincing me to buy a 360....man im so glad you guys are here...i could have really screwd up!!!!!
/sarcasm off
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And though I wouldnt compare this to a 360 game I know it will look better than most of those clones that xbox has to offer, trust me I own one...the problem I have is with the unreal 3 engine most of the games that use it look the same (plastic humans) especailly gears of war and too human. but i know its because devs dont wanna spend major money to build their own engines just takes to long.
so im happy when the ps3 launches and will be picking one up and a wii, and then my 360 will just collect dust and only get used for exclusives.
So Regula
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YEA WE MIGHT BE STUPID BUT WE CAN KICK YOUR ASS! Have you even played Oblivion? It has a far deeper storyline and has 20 times the content of a FF game. I have played both. Stupid non-american! How do you like it?
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Though I can't say I really expect it.
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no, i am not AdeptVoice. i have never posted on kotaku. i have tried to, and intended on using the same moniker, MusashiX2. but there is always an error when i try to post so i said F it.
"YEA WE MIGHT BE STUPID BUT WE CAN KICK YOUR ASS!"
it is comments like this that are the reason that the whole world hates us americans. this is why when i go onto message boards like CVG where it is UK based, i feel like i have to differentiate myself from the average ignorant american, because non-americans only think we are like #25 here.
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har har.
americans are so stupid... MGS is not another lame FPS and FF games have far deeper gameplay and story than any boring MMORPGs that strive for online communities of losers..."
Splinter Cell is a FPS???? Oblivion is a MMOPG???
I take it you have NEVER played either.... have you?
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The thing is that everyone is talking about how there are not that many ANNOUNCED exclusives for the PS3; umm...the console hasn't launched yet and we already know of a few. Secondly, as long as I can play the popular games on both systems then I don't care if every system on the planet has the game.
I don't think the PS3 will kill the XBOX360, but it does have competition from both the PS3 and Wii. The system hasn't taken full advantage of its head start and has nothing innovative in the pipeline to fight the launch of these TWO systems this Christmas.
Finally, I just want to play a TRUE next-generation Madden that has all the features of the past generation series. Sony has proven that they are capable of motivating third party development on their console throughout the entire console lifecycle. They don't leave a system hanging once the new one comes out. The fact of the matter is that I don't need every game in my collection to be a AAA title. I need to be able to go to the store and see a game that isn't necessarily super popular but offers me something different from the run of the mile. The Playstation library of games has offered me that opportunity for the past two generations. They've had games that have come out of nowhere and created whole new series as well as continued support for existing series. This is the same reason I like Nintendo. Microsoft just hasn't challenged the envelope in anyway meaningful to me; that may not be the case for you but I don't really care.
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It's really not that difficult. it looks like the E3 '06 video, which also looks like shit compared to the '05 video. now quick, give me an excuse for why the E3 '06 video sucks.
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Halo3 is being rumourmongered as releasing in March 2007, up against PS3's Euro launch (although, at the time the rumours started, PS3 was still supposed to be launching worldwide with 2 million units in November).
We've only seen the tip of the iceberg on what this generation's consoles can deliver. Check out the gameplay footage of Tony Hawk's Project 8 to see some really impressive material. It seems like developers are really starting to put some effort into building proper biomechanically correct models and using physics as the main driver for animations.
By comparison, at this point, the animations in MGS4 are disappointing. I should think that with another year plus of development time, that can and will change.
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It's too bad your heart isn't a mirror of reality.
Just because YOU think it's big doesn't mean it really is. MGS sells well for a video game. It sold about 1/10 that of GTA, though. And about 1/4 that of Halo. And certainly less than Splinter Cell.
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americans are so stupid... MGS is not another lame FPS and FF games have far deeper gameplay and story than any boring MMORPGs that strive for online communities of losers..."
Umm... Splinter Cell isn't an FPS, and Oblivion isn't an MMORPG... Why are we stupid again?
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but it's still not as dumb as the GTHD rumor. that's turbodumb.
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The boat section at the start in MGS2 was OK, but the rest was horrible. Atrocious story (if you can call it that), boring, stupid characters.
I didn't like MGS3 it just felt dated and showed the series as needing a serious shot in the arm.
The MGS4 cut scenes that have been hawked around the net look amazing, but they are just cut scenes even if they are rendered using the game engine. The actual gameplay footage looks like more of the same. I'm bored by MGS and for me this is not a killer app on ANY system. The chances of it coming out on the 360 are pretty high as well so why all the Sony fanboy excitement?
Sony need to start looking at new exclusive franchises; and as good as I suspect Resistance will be I don't expect it to be remebered alongside the Halo series (which personally I'm not that keen on), Farcry, or Half Life.
Add in the rumoured microtransactioned to death Gran Tourismo and Sony are only really left with Final Fantasy as a killer exclusive RPG franchise - but then Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon look fresher than recent Final Fantasy drivel.
I couldn't care less about the 360 / PS3 comparative graphics, and I couldn't care less about Blu-Ray, the Cell, HD-DVD, or 1080p output - if a console has good games I'll buy it. At the moment Sony are floundering.
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MGS is an awesome series, but let's not pretend it doesn't appeal to a rather limited market. selling a couple million units in a market of 100 million isn't as impressive as something like Dead Rising, which isn't a launch title, selling more than a half-million in two weeks with a market of less than ten million. if you're super bad at math, that would be the equivalent of selling five million units in two weeks with the PS2 install base.
my point is, MGS4 will sell a lot of systems, but no matter how good it is I bet a mediocre PS3 title with a wider audience will sell a lot more.
PS the footage is good, but the animations really _aren't_ up to the standard of the E3 video.
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does that mean In_the_butt ?? If not, how does one actually eat a hot dog backwards.. ??
No doubt that Metal Gear is a franchise that has influenced a ton of material. If MGS:Snake Eater was any indication of how much more-awesome a franchise can get after putting out 2 really impressive titles, I cant even begin to imagine how the actual game-play quality of MGS4 will be.
Until you get your hands on it, and play it for yourself, there is no-way you can form an educated opinion on the game.. You cant. I will refrain from judgement on this subject other then my statement above, which is based on the upward momentum of the franchise from its initial offerings up through MGS3. MGS4 will probably continue the trend.. They wouldn't spend so much time on the game if they didn't intend to make it great.
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Doesn't anybody remember Killzone? Utter bullsh!t.
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This is why we are seeing so few AAA-titles for the PS3, and they are taking so long to come out. It's also driving the price of games up, and preventing smaller developers from competing with the major developers. This is not good.
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There has also been a trend lately to get out of the holiday period and to list titles in the traditional slow periods for games, though normally you would try to get your less appreciated titles out at that time. GRAW and Oblivion did both launch in or around March this year.
But all of that is really off topic, I didn't mean for this to become a discussion about Halo, I just wanted to respond that it may not be a year off.
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you know what? you are absolutely right. this is why i wonder if when the ps2 is fully dead, will these devs look for something cheaper than the ps3 but can still deliver like the ps2? i think the death of the ps2 will be the rebirth of the psp. think about it for a minute. games cost about the same to make on the psp, which will be cheap as dirt compared to the ps3 and 360. maybe the next surge in great games will be on psp and ds, since those are the places where companies can spend the least while still making a lot.
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Wasn't that supposed to blow me away or something?
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