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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:08AM (Unverified) said

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Know what would have made this better? Pictures from the show.

Know who is stupid? Ken Kutaragi for not allowing pictures of a product HE WANTS PEOPLE TO BUY. How incredibly stupid.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:11AM JohnEBoy said

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i want meh PS3 @_@
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:11AM (Unverified) said

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Is it just me or is Joystiq being biased again with the Sony?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:16AM (Unverified) said

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Please don't take this as partisan bickering - this is not a dig at the console...

But is it just me, or does Sony nowadays seem to have the same sense of fun and showmanship as one of those one-celled organisms you see repeatedly banging into walls?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:20AM (Unverified) said

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I love you, joystiq!
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:19AM DonaldMick said

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Using a DS in a Sony press conference = win?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:23AM (Unverified) said

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Seriously...Why even blog a PS3 event with this kind of attitude? Might as well have Major Nelson blog the keynote speech.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:24AM (Unverified) said

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Gee, if this keynote was as boring being there as it was to read about, then Sony's in for a world of hurt.

EARTH TO SONY!! NEVER MIND ALL THAT TECHNO-JARGON CRAP AND GIVE US GAMERS SOME FREAKING GAMES ALREADY!!

Jezzusss....
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 7:33AM Bedpanjohn said

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They are just expressing that it was boring. if you don’t like their options don’t read the what’s not in quotes.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:37AM (Unverified) said

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"Seriously...Why even blog a PS3 event with this kind of attitude? Might as well have Major Nelson blog the keynote speech."

What kind of attitude? An objective one?

Cmon, I have seen coverage of this event on 3 different sites, all platform agnostic, and they all pretty much paint the same picture.

Don't blame bloggers for not drinking the Kool-aide.
The PS3 is damn expensive and they need to be wow-ing us, not tossing out ho-hum events like candy in a parade. Bloggers at this site are gamers at heart whether you think they shill for a certain company or not and we all want the next gen to be the best gen. I really doubt anybody from Joystiq went to this hoping to downplay Ken's performance. Love Sony or hate them, we all know what a hack Ken is. I am really looking forward to some games on the PS3 but that doesn't keep me from puking in my mouth a little every time I hear this guy speak........no offense. :)
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:17AM (Unverified) said

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Am I the only one who doesn't want their game console to try and cure cancer in its spare time?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:48AM hungarianhc said

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Wow. I'm so underwhelmed. I have kept holding my breath for something great, but I really feel like Sony is going to sell something that can do XBOX 360 graphics and play Blu Ray movies... and charge $200 more, and come out a year later. Not really okay in my book...
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:11AM (Unverified) said

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It was seemingly the case at E3, too. Microsoft opened with Gears of War; Nintendo began with the unbridled spectacle that was a tiny flailing Japanese man to the tune of The Legend of Zelda. And Sony? A dull stream of tech-specs and marketing speak, interspersed with Giant Enemy Crab.

Nintendo's cast seems to have fun-loving individuals possessed of exactly the spirit I'd desire out of games designers, while by all accounts I've heard so far this Ken Kutaragi's public appearances could all be done by a an Apple Mac's text-to-speech program and still have the same level of emotional impact.

You might be able to attribute a lot of the bad Sony press since E3 to the simple fact that it doesn't look like anyone there knows how to have any >fun,< and that's not what you want to look for in the people making your games, y'know?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:49AM (Unverified) said

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I've been to a Sony press conference (E3 2001), and believe me, they are boring as DIRT! While Nintendo conferences are lighthearted, fun, and focus primarily on the games, Somy's are convoluted, grating, and borings as all get out. I mean, it was dry like you were sitting in a class you hate going to, where the teacher drones on in a monotone that, over time, sounds more and more like Charlie Brown's teacher. IT'S TORTURE, I tell you.....TORTURE!!
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:51AM (Unverified) said

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they just spend TOO MUCH TIME on the technical bullshit. All the babbling about 1080p and HD video bandwidth and processor cores and megahertz and HDCP and blah blah blah. These people are here to see games running on your fucking console. End of story. Keynotes like this need to be short and to the point, when they clutter it up with technical jargon, the whole audience gets lost and starts playing DS.

No pictures? WTF? One of the biggest sellers for games and systems are gameplay videos and screenshots, but apparently Sony is taking a new approach to marketing and expects you to just blindly buy Mobile Suit Gundam when it comes out just based on the title. Anyways, Surely we'll see plenty of photos from the floor. I just got my new Game Informer today and it's got tons of screens from DMC4. It looks pretty good.

I'm still not sold on the PS3 though. I'm slowly being more interested in it...but not enough yet. For now, it's still Wii360 till the cost comes down and more games come out.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 12:56AM (Unverified) said

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What do you all expect? Ken wont let them take any pictures....and assuming those are actual quotes from the keynote it sounds boring as hell. How are they not just blasting everyone in that room with games games games? And for all the talk about their network i am not one bit close to figuring out what they want to do.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:09AM (Unverified) said

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"Ps3 = 2,000,000 Yen"
A picture of a dog/cat/monster/horse eating the words ps3 labeled M$.

Come on.

Gamers at heart or shills? That is not for me to decide. I can only read the silliness contained in the nonquoted text and make my own conclusions. It's in-vogue to bash Sony regardless what the news is. Whatever gets you more readers I guess....

In-vogue = readers , readers = clicks , clicks = money...

I own an xbox 360. It has games I like. I will own a ps3 IF it has games I like.

I guess I'm frustrated because it's getting harder and harder to tell the real journalism/news/blogging/coverage from the sensationalism/fanboy/follow the leaders/tripe that's so popular at the moment.

Oh well...
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:07AM Keithustus said

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Nintendo v. Sony...check Youtube in a few weeks to see whether this or Reggie's speech in NY was watched more. Then make your new console sales predictions.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:10AM (Unverified) said

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Is it just me or does it sound like Ken thinks this console is still 9-12 months out?

I'm sure glad my PS allegiance is long gone cause theres no way I could camp out for a console built by THESE people costing THAT much and still look at anyone staight in the eye and say 'it was worth it'.

This keynote, in Japan, six weeks from launch, should be a hardcore rah rah! Look what we f'n got! Suck on it ninty and ms! Instead of holding up a big ol middle finger at everyone who refuses to believe, which is an exponentially increasing group, it sounds like they just rolled over and died.

Oh well at least sony still makes great tv's! I'll be picking one up very soon!
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:19AM HaL 10000 said

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NO PICTURES? WHAT KIND OF CRAP IS THAT?!

For the record Sony, are you selling a game console yes or no?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:22AM (Unverified) said

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Reading this sarcastic review of the keynote makes it even more clear where the bias of this blog is. You guys were busy making fun of Kutaragi-san the whole time and as a result you failed to see the significance of the epic vision for gaming in the next decade Sony is laying out....

Thats too bad, because there needs to be *someone* with vision in this industry to save us from generic clones of games, and simplistic flash-style games 'for everyone'. And to make fun of Sony for including folding@home in the ps3? IMHO that is commendable, certianly better corporate citizenship than MS (please note, due to constant whining I will no longer refer to them as M$) or Nintendo have come up with.

Reading this made me think of a couple of pimple faced teenagers messaging each other during an important speech at their school, "ZOMG I AM SO BORED!! LOLZ Look at the speaker he is so UGLEE!!!" "God enuff about starving kids in africa, I want to get drizzunk!"
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:26AM (Unverified) said

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Protip: If you want people to see your vision, do not bore them but rather engage them.

Plain and simple.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:28AM (Unverified) said

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What a painful read. What the HELL is having my PS3 hooked up to the internet going to do that having my computer hooked up can't do?

Are game developers REALLY spending that much time and money trying to *exactly* replicate real-world landscapes? Level design usually comes from scratch, because games take place in fantasy lands.

This was a terrible keynote for this event. It's the Tokyo GAME Show...not TECH show.

Shit, I was REALLY hoping for something new. This is the same crap they've been cramming down our throats ever since the Cell was added to the PS3. That *doesn't* magically transform the thing into a "super-computer." Oh, but if you hooked up thousands of them over a network it would. Give me a break. Show me how it’s better than the competition.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:28AM (Unverified) said

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Hmmm, including folding@home a sign of corporate citizenship. Alright I'll grant you that, but if you are really trying to use that as a sign of the goodwill of sony then perhaps you might want to see what MS does on a yearly basis.

Frankly i hope its something i can remove if i choose to assuming it is installed by default.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:30AM GuyLBC said

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It’s a good thing the opinion of the "hardcore gamers" don’t match the opinions the rest of the people who play video games.

Even with fanboys bending over backwards to find every little fault with PS3, Sony will be just fine. Your alliance to Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft means nothing to those companies. You’re just another number.

Lets just all play games people.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:29AM (Unverified) said

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When has sensationalism/fanboy/follow the leaders/tripe NOT been popular?

When has criticism/whining/complaining/crying NOT been a reaction on the comments section?

When has there been insightful posts? Rarely. Just because Sony's PR ship is sinking fast, doesn't mean you have to jump in with them and stick it out like the band on the Titanic.

People need to get a grip. For the most part, keynotes are usually boring. Only at E3 is where you'll get some trailers. And even then, most of the good stuff is behind closed doors at private viewings. I mean, Irrational just released the first video of Bioshock at IGN. Not at an MS keynote. These speeches are for businessmen, investors, blah blah blah. Why do people expect something more from them anyways?

But from the (possibly misinterpreted) quotes - Sony seems to pile vague numbers upon vague answers and jargon to steer away from answering the real questions. We're less than two months away and what's the interface look like? What the hell is up with the online service? What does the Blu-Ray movie playback look like? Nintendo has always been notorious for holding information and always underdelivering (for the most part it's still true) - but this is ridiculous. I say Sony is going to hurt the first few years of the PS3's life.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:32AM (Unverified) said

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I did used to like sony very much, but now I'm just fed up.

They aren't showing games, the price is rediculous and stupid sony execs continue to open their mouth to the media. I live in Australia, so no PS3 till next year (Just like they did with the PSP).

Though I'm NOT wii60.

The Wii looks gimmicky with the crappy remote control and the overused childrens games like Mario and Zelda. Never liked the childish games, and 3rd party didn't exist. And the fact that there is no large improvement over its last generation offering, I think I'll pass.

The Xbox 360 is rubbish too. It doesn't look great, well, not yet. Plus they treated my country really badly with the release of the local release date on the U.S. release day. And the lies on their over-moderated biased forums. Even then they pushed the release back further.

So, I'm getting a new computer. It really is the networked hub, and its useful for so many things already, and it has the proof of its uses. Although its a bit expensive, when you add the cost of a HD display for your next gen console (not including the Wii), the price is fairly smilar anyway. Plus, using third party applications, you have friend lists, VOIP and customisation in every game.

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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:35AM watership said

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"Reading this sarcastic review of the keynote makes it even more clear where the bias of this blog is. You guys were busy making fun of Kutaragi-san the whole time and as a result you failed to see the significance of the epic vision for gaming in the next decade Sony is laying out...."

AZn_1080p, Are you an idiot? I've watched you post for the past few weeks, and you posts are reactionary and pointless.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/tgs06/tgs06-liveblogging-kutaragis-keynote-202427.php

http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs2006/story.html?sid=6158144

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153860

Three OTHER Press conference reports. All equally sarcastic and unimpressed. Please stop waiting our time with your crazy talk and think before you type.

Goodnight.

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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:36AM (Unverified) said

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geez azn_1080p why do I picture you one day reading joystiq and getting so mad at the "bias" that instead of contributing another post (of actual bias) you go buy a hummer h3 so you can "get your girl on" or whatever.

If this is such a bad site its an easy fix for you. But aparently your a flamebait troll who loves to piss all over himself in text form.

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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:35AM (Unverified) said

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I admit it, I'm a Sony-hater. For a couple years I've heard things about the new Nintendo console and gradually got more and more excited about their console. All I heard about the next PlayStation was the name and that it would use a new high-density format. And that's still what I'm hearing from that front. Meanwhile Microsoft is offering a stellar online service and Nintendo is disrupting the entire console market.

After E3 2006, I lost almost all hope for PS3 now knowing all the details, what little there was to know besides better graphics power. My last shred of hope was the final showing: this keynote. I'm sorry, Sony. I'm not buying a PlayStation 3. The price is too high, I have several computers already, I already run Folding@Home, and I don't have an HDTV. You have not given me a reason why I want a PlayStation 3 over other consoles while the competition has done so. And with a keynote that talks about the glorious new world of the Interweb, as if it were intended to bedazzle scientists in 1970 on what the future holds, you just blew your credibility into the negatives.

I'm sorry. I don't know how else to put it. You failed this time around.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:37AM (Unverified) said

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People, This is the 4th dimension. Kind of like in The Matrix. Totally worth it, Who needs games when you can connect to data servers!!! Sounds like the Ps3 is gonna rock! AND EVEN HELP HUMANITY ALSO!! try that Super Nintendo!
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:40AM (Unverified) said

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all i have to say is the psp was hyped up and THAT wasn't worth it. i felt like a fool for having shelled out $250 for lumines. i can only imagine how i'll feel for paying $600 for final fantasy 13.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:42AM (Unverified) said

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You all know that when the PS3 comes out you will all be dying for one STF6 already. Xbox does look to me like a true next gen system and Wii is last gen PS3 is a true next generation high tech machine.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:42AM (Unverified) said

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@subnet6

"Cmon, I have seen coverage of this event on 3 different sites, all platform agnostic, and they all pretty much paint the same picture."

Joystiq is a console agnostic source? Dude they might as well change their colors to Microsoft green and white. And as for being objective I think you need to look up the definition. Being objective means making a logical/valid counterpoint to what is being said not drawing silly little pictures inserting some "oh so witty" quips and calling it an article. We all know what some people think of PS3, but saying every opportunity you get does get quite redundant.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:42AM (Unverified) said

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Well that was dissapointing... was expecting sony to come out dropping bombs but we get the same technical crap from E3. This was kind of their last big show thing to prove to people the ps3 would be worth their money but they failed. I'd like to meet sonys marketing department about now.

And @azn_1080p... lol, "important speech at their school"... rofl that made me laugh (oh and btw, txt msging is actually pretty common during most anything in school/college/work... not sure where ur going with that). More than the rest of ur post i mean... and ur name...
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:42AM (Unverified) said

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26: I hope, in many ways, that Sony will be just fine. By no means can I be considered a fan of their console - Not thinking of picking one up until something genuinely worthwhile like MGS4 comes out - but I'd certainly hate to see Sony destroyed by its PR and logistical failures. I'm Wii60, and even I can see, to an extent, the force that the threat that is Sony's console has exerted in shaping the other two.

Do you seriously think Microsoft would be busting its butt to please us with 1080p graphics right now if it weren't for Sony, or that Nintendo would have gotten off its directionless Gamecube ass and produced the Wii, competing on fun rather than power to provide a contrast to the graphical juggernauts?

I agree - it'd be unlikely and sad to see them crumble.

28: I've read a few of his comments, and AZN_1080 is not worth a shred of your attention. If he is, as the name vaguely implies, asian, then he, if I might be allowed to put it this way, indirectly shames my own ancestors. Just ignore him.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:57AM (Unverified) said

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Wow.. that was horrendous. Underwhelming is an understatement. Did the Japanese audience respond as (appropriately) bored and confused as I imagine they would? Talk about (continued) smoke and mirrors. Maybe he didn't get the memo that the console was going on sale in a few months?
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:52AM (Unverified) said

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azn_1080p is an obvious Sony plant from Canada. Just ignore his Sony PR bull.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 1:55AM (Unverified) said

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In fact watership, I had not read those reviews yet, this was the first one I saw, and I wrote what I thought. I'm sure the editors of this site can handle a little crisicism without you riding up in your shining (horse?) armour to save their honour. Thanks for the insults though.

I now HAVE read them, and I don't agree that they're all the same. Kotaku's was much more positive, and much less juvenile. Gamespot was lukewarm but mature. Only 1up was similar in tone, and equally dissapointing. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on our opinions of the coverage... or, I could insult you, disparage your opinion, and attempt to silence you by chastising you for daring to post your thougths. Nah, that would be too much, even for a reactionary (LOL) like me.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 2:02AM HaL 10000 said

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31. People, This is the 4th dimension. Kind of like in The Matrix. Totally worth it, Who needs games when you can connect to data servers!!! Sounds like the Ps3 is gonna rock! AND EVEN HELP HUMANITY ALSO!! try that Super Nintendo!

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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 2:28AM (Unverified) said

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Oh dear... Jeez, i want to get excited about PS3 i really do, but i cant. My xbox360 has broken and i was thinking about hanging on till the PS3. But whats the point, i know and like the Xbox Live service. Im a huge Fan of the Halo and GTA series and now the 360 is even going to upscale my old DVD's what do i want to change for?.... I dont know, the speech told me nothing. So back to the shop for another 360 where i at least know the console, i like being part of the community and can get all the games im intrested in.

Good luck to sony. Lets hope MGS4 will rock the world, i see it as there Ace card.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 2:32AM (Unverified) said

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just fyi, it's been stated before in a variety of press (including us+uk mag press) that the final fantasy 13 trailer is indeed real time. the portion with the menus/dialog boxes are the real time portion. it's the first game so far that's blurred the line between cg/cinematic and gameplay graphics. not even crysis can claim such an achievement. truly impressive of the square team, somehow trumping crysis, which rightfully had everyone gasping at its technical graphic achievement since e3 2006. in case you're in doubt, just do a google of final fantasy 13 and "real time graphics"; you'll find articles from the press stating it is indeed gameplay graphics.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 2:47AM (Unverified) said

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Sony would've been better off had they just released a dedicated gaming console to compete with Nintendo and Microsoft. Enough said.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 3:36AM (Unverified) said

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DONT Worry about the crappy KEYNOTE YOU SPANNERS HAVE YOU SEEN THE TGS INGAME VIDEOS
THEY THE BEST CONSOLE GAMES I EVER SEEN ?

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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 3:39AM (Unverified) said

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Am I missing something or is Ridge Racer 7 the only LAUNCH game they mentinoed or showed? Everything else is just "coming soon"
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 4:06AM (Unverified) said

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definetly the worst report blog of a key note i have ever seen. haveing endured reading about half your &^%$#@!, my respect for joystiq has dropped about.. to near zero. really whoever wrote all this is a moron.
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 4:17AM (Unverified) said

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PS 3 is feeling the pressure of a Market shift that will deliver new Games and unique experiences THIS year.PS 3 will try to give you the same as they have copied all the ideas , LIVE, motion sensor controls etc. BUT their copies are quick pasted togher efforts that will fail. Blueray = Great but PUSHING this technology onto users (through PS3) to enable to sell OTHER SONY hardware is just bad.BTW most movie companies will not release movies on that medium and also like 85 % of game companies have signed to push titles to other consoles. Sony`s PS3 will be as great as UMD disk sales (another shove it to the people product).Sony might do better a year after release ,when it`s cheap and game companies decide to throw it a BONE.BTW Sony stop showing CGI trailers,IT`s like showing the movie seens from FF7 and up and then having the Graphics look like a totally diffrent outdated game.You will need to grab your ripped off controlls and PULL PULL PULL out of this crashing system like you did with that WarHawk game !!
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 4:43AM (Unverified) said

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@matjet - i think you will find that most of what is in the article is a direct feed of the keynote speech, so sony wrote that. and in all honesty if i had to sit through a speech of that length and complexity when it is meant to be pitching a console ( a word not used) then i too would be a little bored and probably grouchy. Seriously, this was a pr disaster and it doesnt matter if joystiq are ps3 haters, sony have doen very little to warm people too them, they are relying on brand loyalty to sell the console, while nintendo and microsoft are having to work hard for their sales.

the nintendo demo videos that came out this last week are very impressive and paint a great picture for the console, while sony released a 3 minute ps3 trailer about some french dude going boxing and finished with a ten second clip of what looked like a mediocre fps running on a medium range pc.

People want to be shown the console working, they dont want empty talk about cd-roms and bluray, or cad systems, or how the internet is great. I hope the ps3 does well, because it drives the market and if it fails then the gamer ultimately loses, but sony need to start working on people with some positive pr by focusing on killer apps they have. They should stop even mentioning other consoles, or pc markets and just sit down and go, "right its expensive, but look at this, this rules and thats why your paying so much for it!"
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 6:46AM fuzzbee said

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I can just imagine the scene from Ken's view. The crowd radiating a glow from all the DS's that came out during his speech. Too funny! :)
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Posted: Sep 22nd 2006 7:07AM (Unverified) said

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Come on! It's amazing how bias can twists a story. If they talk about games you say wheres the system, wheres the network. If they talk about the network and the system, you say where are the games. F you people. Can't please any of you. They dropped two big bombs durring the speach (price drop[in japan] and HDMI) and there should be nothing but positive feedback. Why in hell would they need to talk about games! There are plenty of games comming out between now and January and you already know what they are. If you don't, go to Gamespot or IGN. You people make me F'in sick Joystick and you posters (the ones with negative comments). You won't give the company a break. But you know what, I guess that is Sonys fault they need to get more Blog sites on their payroll like M$ does. Then maybe we can have some unbias journalism
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