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Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:28PM (Unverified) said

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You know, I honestly think that $50 for any system might be too high. $60, while not as bad as it could be, is still most definitely too high regardless of which console we're talking.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:29PM (Unverified) said

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This goes out to all the people who doubted me in the last thread. http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/25/japanese-ps3-games-to-cost-up-to-9-800-85-usd/#comments


PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:42PM (Unverified) said

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LOL, come on xbots, I'm eagerly waiting for you to find a way to spin this as bad news for sony, just like every other little piece of speculation/rumour/hearsay.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:45PM (Unverified) said

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3--I'll bite. Microsoft's first party games are $50, not $60. Can you say the same for Sony?

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:46PM (Unverified) said

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I said it from the beginning.....PS3 games will cost the same as 360 games !!!

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:52PM Lord Minogue said

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Oyay Ethan, you've been shot down much more frequently.

Hey, gullable is written on the ceiling.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:53PM (Unverified) said

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"5. I said it from the beginning.....PS3 games will cost the same as 360 games !!!"

At launch...but will move up to 70 dollars after launch.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:53PM (Unverified) said

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Good news for PS3 lovers.
Some of us are playing while others are waiting.
Sad innit!!! Hehehe

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 6:56PM (Unverified) said

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#4... No MIcrosoft 1st party games will all be 60 bucks.. Those launch 1st party games were 50 but that is no longer the case.... They changed their pricing strategry weeks after launch so that any future 1st party games would be 60.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:01PM solomonrex said

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This doesn't answer the vital question of how the developers are going to make enough money. I haven't seen the cost/profit per disc split out based on the small installed base of the ps3.


Considering that ps3 is harder to develop for, everyone is saying how difficult it is to develop these next gen games, and the BD format only just getting online - are any developers expecting to break even before holiday 2007? I sincerely think they need $70 games to make a ps3 game viable.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:04PM (Unverified) said

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You guys in america may be relieved by the "low price" of $59.99, but spare a thought for us brits. It seems that the PS3 games here will be £49.99 which is the best part of $90! AND we're not getting PS3 till March, AND, we don't get the cheaper version, just the High-end model which is going to be £425 meaning it's gonna cost us the best part of $800! and to think you guys are moaning about $600. I have never been more happy with my 360!

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:04PM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad I'm rich.

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 12:23AM (Unverified) said

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It just makes you wonder where Sony are expecting to make money.... a system that costs them money to sell and games which cost more to develop sold at lower margins than the competition, could be an expensive few years for Sony...They're out on a limb now....

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:13PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, Its 59.99 down to preorder, and another 30 for the full game.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:21PM GLPP said

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I suppose this is good news. However, I wish that MS and Sony would both realize that $60 is too much for a casual purchase for most people. Sure, some folks, myself included, are willing to drop the cash... but not everyone is an unmarried guy in his twenties with a good deal of disposable income. Heck, even now I feel guilty bringing home a 360 game to my home. The looks I get from her. Implying that the money should have been spent on something else... something small... and shiny. Someday you'll all realize the true ring of death is not three flashing red lights on your Xbox.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:22PM (Unverified) said

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But solomon the cost of actually producing a Bluray is that much mroe expensive than DVD... like maybe a couple of cents at the most.

and its harder to develop for compared to what? The 360 is supposedly easy to develop for and they're STILL arbitrarily charging 60 bucks for games that are 40 or 50 bucks on other systems.

I think most games will stick around the 60 dollar price point. Especially because as time goes on, cost of developing on a certain disc format decreases, not increases.

But wambam you are right, you do have to have money to be a gamer these days eh?

What with 400+ dollar systems, 50 dollar controllers and 60 dollar games.... its an expensive time to be a gamer... but then when was gaming ever cheap?

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:22PM ZeroCorpse said

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What's the difference? The games are still just a bunch of FMV Japanese RPGs and hack-n-slashers. Crap like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy could be $15 at launch and I *still* wouldn't want to buy them or play them.

Pfah. I'm going to go play Saints Row.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:27PM (Unverified) said

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Microsoft's first-party games are $50, and continue to be $50. You're obviously alluding to Gears of War, but fail in your reading comprehension, as Gears of War - while 360 exclusive - isn't a first-party game, just Microsoft published.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:27PM (Unverified) said

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Methane47,

Didn't Ninety-Nine Nights (a first-party 360 title) just come out like a month ago? That costs $50.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:38PM (Unverified) said

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Note that the release dates are off. If the release dates are wrong, why would the price be right? This seems to be the same sort of pre-release/pre-order list that any other retail outlet is using. I don't think $59.99 is an unrealistic price point. In fact, I strongly believe that this is what Sony will choose in the end. However, I'm not going to believe anything as being official until it comes directly out of a Sony spokesperson's mouth.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:40PM (Unverified) said

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I agree, it's still too expensive for any platform. I knew Sony would never put itself at a disadvantage and charge more for games. But guess what? I still ain't buying one! oh and Ethan you are a turd, the only thing you owned is an oversized brush to comb that back hair.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:43PM (Unverified) said

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ms first party game are 50 bucks. sorry sony boys

Gears of war is called a 2nd party title. a title developed by a third party but published by the 1st party console amker. because of this the developer sets the price. which is 60. thank epic for that

expect halo3 to be 50 as will all other 1st party games

now about this article nothing here is conclusive either way. for all we know they could be less than 59.99 or more. these are for pre orders only and sony has not released any official info regarding software pricing something we all hoped for at tgs. why they wonlt come out and tell us the price is beyond me but in a few months all will be known so all this internet rumor and bickering should come to some form of an end

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:53PM (Unverified) said

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Heres a list of games from PS3 I would by at the following prices:

$80- theres...but theres always....but dont forget...?
$70- theres...but theres always....but dont forget...?
$60- theres...but theres always....but dont forget...?
$50- theres...but theres always....but dont forget...?
$40- theres...but theres always....but dont forget...?

Anyone catch a theme here, I could keep on going but you can figure out the rest right.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 7:56PM (Unverified) said

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Halo 3 and Forza 2 are both first party games, and both will be priced at $59.99.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000284

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200187

MSFT is selective with the pricing, hyped games = $60.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:00PM grok4spock said

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Even more awesome news for those Sony Drones who thought they were going to snap up a 20GB PS3 with newly announced HDMI flavor:
Sony is saying that it plans to allocate 80 percent of its US retail PS3s for the $599 "premium" sku, with the remaining 20 percent left for the $499 "core" model.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060911-7715.html

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:05PM (Unverified) said

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enigma

all games for the 360 are listed as 59.99. but those prices are never right.

1st party 360 games are 50. find one released 1st party title more than 50 please. no a pre-order on a website that has nothing to do with xbox

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:14PM (Unverified) said

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n3 was listed at 59.99

it was sold at 49.99

every 360 game is listed as 59.99. so fi we go by that halo 3 will be out on january 1st 2080 and be 59.99. man thats good i thought in 80 years game would be higher than 59.00 lol.

how many times does MS have to say 1st party games are 50.00

ms has no control over 2nd party pricing. Gears of War.

we canlt even get Sony to officialy ocmment on game prices. and u want to bash MS for selling games at said prices. all 1st party games have been 50 and ms stated this again at e3 06. its not hard to follow

oh i have seen wii games losted at 59.99 2. does that mean nintendo was lying or retailers are pricing all next gen preorders at 59.99 hmmm. i wonder

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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Price point shouldn't be an issue as long as the company's product is proportionally better than their competitors.
The PS3 games, however, should be around the same price point as the 360 games as I just don't see them having any extra value over the 360's games. This is all speculation though, the PS3 games could well have an extra 10$ (I'm not saying that they will be priced 10$ above, just that they might be worth that much) in value over the 360, but I find it doubtful being that they both are just HD versions of the consoles before them.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:22PM vidguy said

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"we really just needed Sony to confirm it -- and they have."

If PS3 prices turn out to be $59.99, cool. But how is this website listing "confirm[ation]"?

Legal Disclaimer: "Price does not include tax or shipping. Reseller prices may vary. Specifications, availability, prices and terms of offer are subject to change without notice. Sony is not responsible for photographic, typographic or system errors."

We've seen this listing for days/weeks. It could be using the $59.99 price only because it's the "established" next-gen pricing. PS3 execs could still come out and say "only $69.99!"

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:30PM (Unverified) said

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the reason they will likley be higher is cause they are on a diff more expensive media. Bluray. those disks are sign higher than dvd's right now. Maybe devs will eat the loss maybe they won't this still needs to be confiremd by those 3rd party devs.

by august 2005 ms had released all launch accessory prices as well as 1st partyu pricng. none of this has been released so far by sony nor what will come in box as well as software pricing. to me thats a sign the news will not be taken as positive.

so 2 months till launch we still donlt knw for sure how much a controler will be let alone games. yes games will likley be 59.99 but we donlt know and why sony canlt just release said information is upsetting specially to a posisble consumer.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:41PM (Unverified) said

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>>Even more awesome news for those Sony Drones who thought they were going to snap up a 20GB PS3 with newly announced HDMI flavor:
Sony is saying that it plans to allocate 80 percent of its US retail PS3s for the $599 "premium" sku, with the remaining 20 percent left for the $499 "core" model.

ArsTechnica is garbage, site has been rubbish ever since Hannibal started taking a smaller role there. Also, the article was made well before the HDMI was added to 20GB version, we'll have to wait and see what real allocation is like.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 8:56PM (Unverified) said

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this is quite resonable for sony, give a high ranked product console and sell the games as the second leading system. smart move by sony

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 12:01AM (Unverified) said

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>>Even more awesome news for those Sony Drones who thought they were going to snap up a 20GB PS3 with newly announced HDMI flavor:
Sony is saying that it plans to allocate 80 percent of its US retail PS3s for the $599 "premium" sku, with the remaining 20 percent left for the $499 "core" model.


Too bad early adopters buy at any price. Thus the reason any gimp piece of shiaat 360 cores sold at launch. You actually think the PS3 won't sell out lol lol lol

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 4:57AM (Unverified) said

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how is a pre-order page any indiation of final price? And just where is Sony's official statement that this is the final price? Pre-order prices are typically place holders based on educated conjecture, but far from official fact.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:03PM (Unverified) said

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if PS3 games are $60 and Xbox 360 games are $60, and the PS3 is 400-600, and Xbox 360 is 300-400, and the PS3 is a better console, which are you gonna buy?

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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This is all well and good but I can't help but be reminded of a 'slowly boiled frog'...

Can we expect games costing $80 for the PS4?
(troll) ...If there CAN be a 4th PS, that is (/troll)

With the costs of game development raising as they are how long can we realistically expect sub-$50 games? (and if those costs are being passed on to the consumer I would suggest some SERIOUS 'Six Sigma' action up in these studios....and inside SONY.)


(With that said, I was once paid $90 for the first ever '8 MEGA' game for Genesis. STRIDER! This was back in the days of allowances and neighbor lawn mowing. At the time I rationalized it by the amount of money I pissed away on it in the arcades. Come to think of it, I probably spent in excess of $200 on that game.)

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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PS3 will sell out at pretty much any price under $1000, especially with their limited numbers. But they can't sell it for $1000, and then in March, turn around and cut the price in half. That's a good way to piss off a bunch of people.

Anyway, like vidGuy said, if this really means 59.99 PS3 games in the end, more power to you. But this isn't much of anything at the moment, just a speculative price point on a company website with a disclaimer that they can change it whenever they want. No press release, no promise, nothing like that.

At the very least, though, this is *positive looking* for PS3 hopefuls. So the positive/negative news ratio is now *slightly* above 0. ;)

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:12PM (Unverified) said

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33.

ps3 is not the best console atleast for me. i am huge on multiplayer and we have no knwoldge of the online and with the inclusion of the vision cam it has really set live off

next 1st party 360 games are 50 bucks. not 60.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:12PM theburn16 said

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it's crazy, games have cost $50 since the mid 90's atleast...maybe even earlier. yet people complain that over 10 years later games now cost $60...ever heard of inflation? you know, minimum wage has gone up since then; average yearly salary has gone up a good bit since then and yet people still bitch about having to pay $10 more for a game...geez

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:26PM (Unverified) said

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You guys in america may be relieved by the "low price" of $59.99, but spare a thought for us brits. It seems that the PS3 games here will be £49.99 which is the best part of $90! AND we're not getting PS3 till March, AND, we don't get the cheaper version, just the High-end model which is going to be £425 meaning it's gonna cost us the best part of $800! and to think you guys are moaning about $600. I have never been more happy with my 360!

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:26PM (Unverified) said

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33.

and ps3 is not 400-600 its 500-600 lol unless u live in japan and if u live in pal countries well than u ahve bigger issues than the price. namely u bought 40 percent of the ps2's yet ur thrid rate to sony lol.

and if u wnat to emntion the 400 japan price why not emntion the 360 japan price of 250 bucks with 2 games or 250 with blue dragon.

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 9:45PM (Unverified) said

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Welcome to three weeks ago, Grok4Spock

Posted: Sep 26th 2006 11:31PM (Unverified) said

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37. the burn16:
"it's crazy, games have cost $50 since the mid 90's atleast...maybe even earlier."

definitely earlier, Since NES days at least (I'm not sure about the Atari and Coleco days)


"you know, minimum wage has gone up since then"

since the mid-90s? what crazy socialist commie country do you think you live in?

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 2:23AM (Unverified) said

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"Maybe companies prefer it that way. It's not that they're keeping us in the dark, it's that they're keeping their competition in the dark until the last possible moment, making it harder for rivals to prep price-related promotions timed to disrupt launch plans."
Yeah, they wanted to wait long enough so that Nintendo wouldn't copy their strategy. =D

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 2:27AM spin cycle said

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I'm not surprised Sony wasn't thinking of trying to charge $70 for games. I am a bit surprised that Sony actually denied it. They had chances to nip other stupid rumors in the bud and didn't, but let them fester. I'm glad to see them get wise here.

Too bad the MS fanboys can't take this without whining.

Surprised Sony would make 80% of their consoles the high end version? I'm surprised it's that low. No way were 20% of 360s sold before last Xmas Core systems.

It's called making money. People whine when Sony does it and claim they are going to go out of business when they lower prices too.

I'm really tired of seeing people out there only finding ways to complain.

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 6:10AM (Unverified) said

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In my area, the PC version of Half Life 2 was $65 at launch, original Playstaion games were $75, and 1st party Gamecube games more than a year old still fetch $50.

Whether you're a PS3 lover or hater, take this news for what it is: nothing unusual.

Now, I am pretty upset that Sony's PS3 pre-order site only works in Internet Explorer. When I use Firefox or Opera, it tells me that cookies need to be enabled. That's just poor, Sony.

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 6:35AM (Unverified) said

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This sucks, why do games have to be so expensive. I will stick with last gen games until the prices start to drop. (greatest hits?)

I mean, I'm 16 and I have a low paying job and I sure as hell don't feel like spending a good chunk of my paycheck on a GAME. Jeez, I have other things to save up for (car)

I am completely fine with buying used games for my GC for $15.00 max. I mean do you all seriously thing you will get that much more of an enjoyment with next gen games that you would be willing to shell out twice as much?

Posted: Sep 27th 2006 8:24AM theburn16 said

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SquirrelPhister: America has a minimum hourly wage that every employee must make...it's $5.15/hour

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