Toys "R" Us nods the Wii

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Crono141, how did you lose your niece at TRU?

What exactly did your wife do at TRU that made her feel 'dirty'? Details please.

XBOT:
"it's cheap and the graphics far exceed PS3"

ah, yes! Wii Sports is proof of that! and what a huge graphical boost it did to the GC Zelda lame graphics! and what about those lovely jagged graphics from Mario Galaxy? seeing hires games from both X360 and PS3 I almost forgot of aliasing problems...

"when it comes to graphics and realism nobody I mean nobody even comes close to XBOX"

XBox 360 second generation games look almost as good as PS3 first generation games, i'll give you that. ;)

Martin:
"All videogames are for kids. They are like Women's breast, made for children and catered towards children. The thing is though, there are many adults who like to play with them too (mostly males, but also a growing number of females)."

man, you deserve 100 stars for that sublime catch phrase! you just made my day! :D

MosquitoControl:
"keep track of your record collection in an Access database"

well, PS3 surely can't do that, since it runs Linux. :)
MySQL, anyone? ;)

Wiggle:
CNet is M$ territory. They will put the XBox very high as well as a cheap toy to get away from PS3 thunder... and yet, i don't see no "most wanted" section anywhere.

and yes, Wiggle, i'm one who considers Mario, Zelda and Metroid games true classics. Graphics didn't look childish, just primitive, and gameplay, sure, was lots of fun.

However, it was about the same time that N64 sales plummeted and the Pokémon craze on GB strived that Nintendo began to cater to children more head-on: Yoshi's Story was lame and not anywhere near as great Yoshi's Island and then came about lots of Pokémon Stadium, Snap and then Pikmin on GC, Animal Crossing, Animal Whatever and lots of other washed out titles definetely geared towards kids alone. Mario was left to star on a handful of shallow Party games, golf, games and none of the deep, large single-player games that brought him to fame.

please, don't come with this "Nintendo makes games to everyone" talk. Nintendo makes games for everyone in the same way Disney makes animated features for everyone: for the kids with a few subtle jokes thown in for the sake of not annoying the parents altogether...

LaughingTarget, your analogy about going out vs. playing board games is faulty IMO, its about whats fun and important to you.

Sitting around wallowing in a childish fantasy world with Pricess Toadstool and Pokemon is escapism, and whats worse, its not escapism to a cool fantasy realm like Final Fantasy, or a dark future like MGS, but to a little kids fantasy world. Its a sign of inability to deal with the real adult world. If thats not immaturity, I don't know what is.

Oh, and I'll take hitting the clubs, pulling mad trim, getting laid, and getting lifted over bowling and playing board games any day of the week. One day you'll figure out is that the only ones who do the latter, are bitter nerds who didn't have the game to do the former. Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

"Sitting around wallowing in a childish fantasy world with Pricess Toadstool and Pokemon is escapism, and whats worse, its not escapism to a cool fantasy realm like Final Fantasy, or a dark future like MGS, but to a little kids fantasy world. Its a sign of inability to deal with the real adult world. If thats not immaturity, I don't know what is."

Actually, a psychiatrist will tell you the exact opposite.
He'll say that the Nintendo world is not escapism. The world is based on absurdity. No one is "escaping" to it, they're just enjoying how absurd it is.
But, with more "realistic" worlds in FF and MGS, people could escape to it, to find what they feel their life is missing, which is more immature and dangerous.

Then they'd look at the incoherence of your final paragraph, which probably isn't English, and feel validated.

"but to a little kids fantasy world. Its a sign of inability to deal with the real adult world."

BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wow...I really LOLed on that one!

I can't see well! Is that Jack Thompson?

I love it! I just LOVE IT!
On one hand we claim that violent games have no effect on how we behave in the real world.....

Then on the other we claim that if you play a "kiddy game" that you can't handle adult situations!

PRICELESS!!!!!!!!

I'm going to go home and play Mario WHILE having sex just for fun after reading that.

Seriously sony-bots. You're really embarrasing yourselves. If the only argument you have left is, "yeah...well....if you play Wii you have coodies!", then just give up.

First it was "you can't enjoy Wii".

Now it's, "If you do then you're somehow inferior as a person".

That is what is known as a straw man logic fallacy. You're attacking the person rather than the issue.

It's also EXTREMELY hipocritical when I KNOW you get offended when people that don't play games at all call you a kid or immature for doing so. Those that don't play games could also just as easily say that you do so because you are unable to function in a REAL world.

My personal opinion:

FUN IS FUN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MATURE!!!!!

Hell...while I'm on a roll....let's examine the list of fun things and see how mature they are:

Candy/sweets - mature? usually not. Fun? of course! and delicious!

Super hero movies - mature? if you think about it...not really. Fun? you know you love them.

Sleeping in - mature? not if you have a job. Fun? best part of the weekend.

Sex - Mature? 50/50 things can get pretty roudy sometimes. Fun? always!

Halloween - mature? If it is...you're doing it wrong. Fun? it is if you have friends.

Christmas - mature? It never should be. Fun? Depends on if you have friends again.

You get my point.

Mature and Fun have NOTHING to do with each other!!! They are independant variables!

If you think differently, you're bitter because your "fun toy" doesn't have as wide of a demographic.

Congratulations! You're OLD!

@aZn_1080p

I can't even begin to capture the bastardization of logic of your post.

For starters, you should know contradicted yourself. You describe escapism as a bad thing and then you admit that the PS3 is also escapist. (I assume you are trying to defend the PS3?)

Then the real problem comes in your defense of the PS3's so called "cool" games.

1. Cool is a totally subjective term that changes with each person's preferences. You can't categorically call something cool and expect to use it as a defense that somone else will agree with. End of story.

2. You never give a warrant as to why FF or MGS qualify as cool. Your post is logically incomplete.

3. Your argument intentionally parametricizes the PS3 game library. FF and MGS aren't the only games on the system. There are games such as Ridge Racer 7 that are boring and repetitive. This takes out your argument on two levels. Firstly, it reveals the fact that you attempt justify your position with two games out of what is a massive (alright... maybe not so massive) library. Secondly, there are games that inherently violate your own standards for why a PS3 is awesome.

4. The argument never successfully takes out the Wii as a good console even under your own flawed framework. You only stage a pitiful attempt against some Wii games. If that's enough to discredit the Wii, then I guess the EyeToy, under your idea of what constitutes a good console, would also make the PS2 a console that purveys "the inability to deal with the adult world." That allows me to justify Wii by giving you a game that would supposedly make the system adult. Red Steel...

What's even more hilarious is the impact that you draw from this supposed cool PS3 awesome realm of doom and pessimism.

1. Your argument's claim is just logically wrong. I don't think playing FF and MGS indicate the ability to handle the real adult world. You're a fictional character, in a fictional world, with fictional powers, doing fictional things... If that's the real adult world...

2. Even if you somehow tie the games to the real world, you fail to discredit Pokemon and Mario and Zelda. Everyone of these RPG games has some underlying motif that revolves around friendship, good vs evil, etc. It's up to the game designer to establish how to convey this story. A cel shaded way to show the triumph of good vs evil vs a bloody photo-realistic method are the same sans graphical interpretation. By your standard, Van Gogh wouldn't be art fit for adults because he's surreal and the photos I took of my trip to Canada would be superior because they interpret the world more realistically. Go home you illogical prat.

3. Even if this were true, that you're dealing with the adult world through MGS and FF, I'd be concerned about society in general if MGS and FF were people's interpretations of what the world actually is like. Personally, I am an optimist and I see the world as it should be. Optimism brings about change. Pessimism causes reclusiveness (ie you). While both may be escapist, I definitely prefer a more healthy way of looking at like than a dark future of what the world might be.

4. Your example of MGS is also inherently contradictory. You claim MGS is about the future. Then you claim is allows you to access the real adult world. Think about that...

5. Not only do you limit the PS3 library, you also limit the Nintendo library which inherently has more family friendly multiplayer games. That alone discredits your entire position and argument because fewer Nintendo games suck you out of reality. And the ones that do aren't pessimistic.

Finally, at your preference to go clubbing and having sex, you again contradict your position. You want to deal with the real world but that hardly qualifies. Get a job.

It's also makes me morally queasy that you would prefer doing that over playing a boardgame with your family and friends. You're the type that initiates date rape and the one that commonly appear on TV as the drunken moron causing car accidents and crime. I hope I'm not in the minority when I say that isn't good. If that makes me a bitter nerd, so be it. Oh. That's another logical fallacy by the way. You're essentially saying that the human population can be divided into only two groups. Those that club and rape and have sex and those that are bitter nerds. See how absurd that is?

Your last sentence not hating the "playa" and hating the game also makes no comprehensible sense. All I know is that I hate your comments.

I'm not sure what else to say to you. Basically, you stink at arguing and you're a jerk. Go get a life. You know, a real one?

#49 aZn_1080p,

the special olympics should be renamed after you, the "aZn_1080p Olympics" because you are the very definition of retarded!

Let me repeat this last paragraph:

"Oh, and I'll take hitting the clubs, pulling mad trim, getting laid, and getting lifted over bowling and playing board games any day of the week. One day you'll figure out is that the only ones who do the latter, are bitter nerds who didn't have the game to do the former. Don't hate the playa, hate the game!"

The fact your used "pulling mad trim" & "getting laid" leads me to believe you listen to too much bad, terrible GAHANGSTAH rap music and don't think enough. Obviously you don't respect the fairer sex either.

But I'm an immature, blind escapist. A bitter nerd (I am pretty geeky) with no game to do what you do (but I can actually get and maintain relationships with women. Like my awesome g/f for two-years-tomorrow. Better than what you can pull off I bet)

You're the asshole in 'tha club' who slams back shooters trying to look like a big man for 'tha' ladies'. Which is funny, because you're on the interweb talking about your exploits... Lollingly enough, I would say you aren't a 'playa'. Clubs suck, by the by. Overpriced drinks for the major loss. Only time I actually go to bloody clubs is when I'm going to go see a band. the funny thing is, I'm not a puritan. I just see that stuff as immature. I wanted to do the same thing you do when I was /14/. I was horribly immature then - now, I skipped over that phase entirely and would much rather have earnest fun with friends. I would much rather play board games/ds games/wii/card games with my girlfriend/friends than go and get lifted at 'da club' and basically beg to get some NSA sex.

Besides, it's much better to dance to Le Tigre than Fiddy.

I know it's kind of pathetic to engage in these flame wars (and horrifically off topic) but... man. I find that kind of attitude anti-social and just plain ignorant.

Also, I have my wii pre-orderded at TRU. Number 50 on the list. I'm just hoping I can get it by the second shipment.

I keep reading comments on Joystiq and thinking "okay, that was the worst comment I've ever read".

But after reading aZn's #49 comment... we have a new winner. It'll be hard to top... until he posts something tomorrow.

@ #16

No a video game console has never been on the hot toy list until now as of the wii.

#48 "Oh, and I'll take hitting the clubs, pulling mad trim, getting laid, and getting lifted over bowling and playing board games any day of the week."
-azn 1080p

Lol! azn-1080p getting laid! talk about losing sense
of reality. its not considered getting laid if its only
you and your hand. its cute though. im sure you and your hand have a real great relationship, considering
all those lonely nights.

i know that you dont like the wii, but youre not gonna
change anybody's mind about purchasing it.

What's the big deal?

Nintendo makes toys.. the Wii is no exception
Sony makes electronics.. the PS3 is no exception

I don't expect to see too many Wii's being pimped at electronics stores (who will be hyping the PS3 like crazy) and I don't expect to see too many PS3's being pimped at toy stores.

I guess the only story here is that Toys'R'Us has finally forgiven Ninty for using all those illegal strong-arm tactics on them in the 90's.

sony fan boys.. i luv how u all now say it's ok to be 3rd in popularity since it has the best specs and people just ain't cool enough to throw all their money away for it. Don't forget it is an industry, and if no one is buying it, then no one will make games for it.

so u see sony suckas.. u call the nitboys nerds or kids but they'll be the popular ones with the chicks.. we all love Sony but just admit they got their head up their ass right now and Nintendo is cool again.. drink the kool aid!

the wii is only a toy for kids!!!!! ha yeah right have you seen some of the games coming out red steel far cry and call of duty look pretty grown up for me

sure they dont have all te lovely blood and guts that ps3 offersoh well my parents hate that and it doesnt really matter if it has that.look at all of the riddicously fun looking kiddie games that nintendo is comming out with ever heard of super monkey ball, metroid, zelda, excite truck, and rayman, thats just a start what does ps3 have to offer brand new graphcs for edited story lines of an old game so what i can play those on my buddies ps2 i want something new and innovative. the ps3 controller can sense movement so can the wii can u aim with the duashockno nintendo is genius sony is a half assed company that doesn't even have enough systems to be calling the ps3 seventh gen it has about four systems so thats fourth gen isnt it

GO NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't even get passed the 20th comment from all of these stupid PS3 fans. 1st of all, the only people who call the remote a "wand" is another idiot sony fan and stopped looking at the news for a while and just got back. 2nd of all, if you see videos of that motion sensor on the PS3's controller, you have to twist it so much to barely get a turn and you guys think that is gay. 3rd of all, Nintendo is making new ways to play video games, just like with the DS which sold better than PSP, although i am not against PSP, i got that shit and DS and they are both awesome. I had to get this off my chest cause you die-hard dick sucking PS3 fans don't know what your talking about. My predictions are that Wii gets ahead of 360 and PS3. PS3 is gonna fail but you guys don't want to admit it. You rather break your wrists to play a racing game. damn.

I hate Internet foruns because of all these morons bashing everyone else. I just couldn't stand reading some of this and not telling all of you to shut the eff up. Don't like a system, then who the $#$% cares. Don't buy it. Quit whining like a buncha lil kids. Maybe all of you PS3 fans should buy a Wii, becuase you all act like you are 5.