Joystiq hands-on: Call of Duty 3
Joystiq stormed the doors of Activision lately, and demanded access to the upcoming Call of Duty 3. We waged a vicious and hard-fought campaign against the ruthless receptionist who finally let us into the trenches to get some game on.Controversy strikes! Yes, the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii versions of the game are graphically different. Looking across the field of battle through the field glasses on the 360 looked crisp and sharp. Running through a forest full of hidden Germans looked photorealistic, even with falling leaves that you could zoom in on and see every close-up detail. Running through burned out buildings on the Wii looked ... GameCubish. We pressed the Treyarch to tell us which version they favored, but they resisted our interrogation. Something was amiss, and headquarters didn't want us to know about it. Loose lips sink ships and all that.
Once more into the breach, we played each the game on each individual system. The missions and campaign are identical on each system, as are the controls. The PS3 has tossed in an "Oh crap! The Wii might steamroll us! Invent something!" motion senstive melee attack. Twist the controller left or right, and pop your enemy in the face with a rifle butt. The PS3 version was playing off of the massive black development kits, and not the newly arrived, shiny test units. An inside wag told us they had only just received them, and they couldn't get the game working on them yet. Jeepers. Our presence in the PS3 room was monitored a bit too closely for our comfort. We were rounded up in short order and taken into the Xbox 360 room, since multiplayer wasn't working on the PS3 yet, although the single player version did look very attractive.

A PlayStation 3 solider creeps through the underbrush. Can't he just stop to smell the flowers?
Call of Duty 2 had multiplayer problems galore, but none of that is evident on the new 360 version. Activision told us that they had a full Q&A team working on CoD3, whereas they were only brought in during the last couple of months on CoD2. CoD3 supports 24 players, new soldier types (Support, Medic, Anti-Armor) and best of all -- vehicles. More than you'll find on base in a motor pool. Players can jump onto any motorcycle, tank or jeep on the map and hit the gas. All vehicles include spaces for passengers, even providing a sidecar for the motorcycle. The jeeps and tanks have .50 caliber mounted guns that passengers can man for support fire. We were suspicious at first, but we hopped onto a motorcycle and Evel Kneiveled onto an approaching Nazi and found it hard not to run for a vehicle each time we respawned. The 360 really shines in the multiplayer department when it works well, and this game did not let us down.

Xbox 360 multiplayer taking on four Germans, a jeep, and a gorgeous background.
Finally, we were taken into the Wii dungeon and handed a nunchuck, a Wii-mote and told to enjoy. Holy disorientation, Batman! It was like playing a totally different game. The Wii-mote points, aims and fires your gun, spins your character around and also handles reloading through an upward flick of the wrist. The nunchuck moves you around via the thumbstick and lets you toss grenades with a throwing motion. You can also flick it to the left or right to change weapons. You would accuse us of drinking and Wii-ing if you had seen our first two tries at the game, spinning in place and lurching around like Mel Gibson on a Malibu highway. Once we got things under control however, it was a lot more enjoyable playing the Wii version. Yes, it might have GameCube quality graphics, but it adds boatloads of a much more important element: fun. All of the hand swinging and gesturing really immerses you in the game. At one stage, an enemy knocks your weapon out of your hand, and you have to struggle with him, via a Wii-mote minigame, in order to win back your weapon. Activision calls these "Battle Actions," and they are much more intuitive through the Wii while the PS3 motion controller feels tacked on and too late to the game in this department.

The Wii kindly explains how to throw a frag grenade, apparently at your own troops. War is hell.
Summing up our day at war: the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game are graphically different from each other, but they both look and feel extremely similar to CoD2. The real difference is in the tweaks to the gameplay. The multiplayer on the 360 was leaps and bounds ahead of the last game, while the Wii really put the game in your hands with their controller. Which one is the best value? If you want multiplayer, you'll have to get the Xbox 360 or PS3 versions, because it won't be supported on the Wii. But if you want innovative gameplay, get the Wii and shake your hands in the air like you just don't care.
Where will you be putting your $50 to $60 MSRP this November?










Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
KineticOnline @ Oct 6th 2006 3:33PM
You said the graphics on the 360 and PS3 were different but never explain how or which looks better. Nor did u mention trying to play COD without rumble.
If the single player plays like COD2 on the 360 im sold, if the multiplayer is even better im gonna have to buy at launch. If the other consoles arnt going to be availble here i guess im going to have to buy the 360 version, but then again i wouldn't buy a ps3 if someone held a gun to my head so the choice is kinda made for me.
Hector @ Oct 6th 2006 3:35PM
There's screens for Wii, 360, and PS3 at:
http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/NEW_MARVEL_ULTIMATE_ALLIANCE_AND_CALL_OF_DUTY_3_SCREENS_Wii_360_and_PS3
K @ Oct 6th 2006 3:36PM
I was really trying not to do it, but I think I might have to get the 360 and Wii versions. Gotta have the multiplayer...but the controls for the Wii are pretty nice.
Crosswayboy @ Oct 6th 2006 3:39PM
Good coverage, very informative.
I still have a question about the Wii version though:
How do the controls compare to other FPS games on the system? e.g. Metroid and Red Steel. Are they tight and responsive? I could forego 24 player xbox live play if the single player experience on the Wii is twice as much fun to play.
lekko @ Oct 6th 2006 3:39PM
Well, let me first say that I probably won't be picking up this game at all because I'm not a huge CoD fan. The thing I wonder about though is this line, "Summing up our day at war: the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game are graphically different from each other, but they both look and feel extremely similar to CoD2."
Graphically different, how? Which one looked better?
Saint @ Oct 6th 2006 3:41PM
Awesome!
Saint @ Oct 6th 2006 3:43PM
I just checked out the site Hector was talking about and to be honest, I think the 360 looks better. The only next logical step up in graphics to be noticeable I think would be to actually appear 'cinemarealistic'. We're at the 'photorealistic' now...
Eric Von Shpeel @ Oct 6th 2006 3:44PM
I cant imagine CoD without online, seems a bit pointless. Added to the fact that it will be the first CoD to ever take a backwards step in terms of graphics theres no way I would even consider getting the Wii version. If I want crappy graphics and a crosshair that moves depending on where I point I will go play CoD1 on the PC.
JimmyHACK @ Oct 6th 2006 3:44PM
resistance will be my big shooter for ps3, i will buy cod3 for 360 though no doubt, just cause i want a killer fps this holiday for it,
as for the wii ill definately rent and maybe buy if worthy cod3 for it, i just see issues like holding onto a grenade or how fast and accurate the shots and moves will be using your body to do them instead of just with quick buttons...
melee sounds cool on ps3 and makes good sense on how you would do it, but resistance will have that so im covered...
would be nice is wii would do HD, cause there is a BIG difference
either way, no matter what version buy, you will get a great game to play and enjoy.
JimmyHACK @ Oct 6th 2006 3:46PM
and no online for cod3 is a step backwards
Hector @ Oct 6th 2006 3:49PM
I played Call of Duty 3 for Xbox 360 and let me tell you, in 100% honesty, you WILL BE AMAZED when you play it. If you like COD2, you won't believe COD3!
Sloar @ Oct 6th 2006 3:49PM
for all of you who scream "joystiq hates sony! quit being such a M$ fanboy!" let's just take a step back and look at this article.
they recommend buying the ps3 version for multiplayer. did anyone else notice that there was NO multiplayer? but they sure couldn't say, "don't get the ps3 version because there is currently no multiplayer" because there would undoubtedly be some moron who chides in, "sony said there will be multiplayer so quit spreading lies joystiq!" yeah, well, sony has said a lot of things and I'm now a believer that you frankly CAN'T believe anything those crooks say.
quit attacking joystiq for reporting the truth and try waiting for the ps3 to be released before we start arguing which system is better. sure, I could say that my kid could beat up your kid, but it makes no sense to argue about it until you have kids old enough to get beat up by my kids anyway.
BklynKid @ Oct 6th 2006 3:51PM
Yea so wht are the graphical differences between 360 and PS3?
adg1034 @ Oct 6th 2006 3:52PM
@Eric von Shpeel:
http://z.about.com/d/collectdolls/1/0/l/G/troll.jpg
FSK405K @ Oct 6th 2006 3:55PM
No multiplayer on Wii?
[Kicks self in head for supporting Nintendo without question!]
BMWM3P @ Oct 6th 2006 4:03PM
He doesn't say because the PS3 is superior to the 360, if it looked better on the 360 the name of this post would be different and they would be saying it every other sentence.
If you want us to take your reviews seriously you might want to have an objective look at all the versions and stop being ignorant fanboys. We know you're wii and 360 fanboys but if the PS3 looked better, which I'm pretty sure it did, then say so and stop saying bad things about the motion sensing in the game. You're just looking for a way to bad mouth the PS3.
icantdrawanime @ Oct 6th 2006 4:03PM
While I agree with the graphics over gameplay idea, terrible graphics definitely make a game unplayable. I remember trying to play call of duty: big red one on the gamecube and I just couldnt get through it... Maybe I've been spoiled by PC graphics where I could actually distinguish my enemies from the mess of textures that makes up the background, but if the graphics of call of duty 3 on the wii makes enemies indistinguishable from the folliage then its just disappointing as hell
Sloar @ Oct 6th 2006 4:06PM
@16 BMWM3P
I just wanted to say thank you for validating my previous post.
E-Roc @ Oct 6th 2006 4:09PM
So did the PS3 version use the same mechanics as the Wii when it came to the "struggle" with another character? If they both have motion should this not work similar?!? I know in the article they say how it was tacked on too late, but what does this mean?
astareus @ Oct 6th 2006 4:11PM
@sloar:
i'm pretty sure no one said anything about joystiq favoring sony. your post screams fanboy moreso than anything else on this page.
@saint:
i think you're dead on with the 'cinemarealism' comment. screenshots can be eerily realistic, but it seems that that all too often drops away when it's actual video/motion. i'm sure that COD3 will look amazing on both ps3 and 360, but i think the NEXT generation is going to be where the line between film and computer generated is severely blurred. not that i won't be playing this in the next few months :)
Spiza @ Oct 6th 2006 4:12PM
No multi, no spiza.
SuperSneaky @ Oct 6th 2006 4:18PM
Thankyou, thankyou, and good night.
The Wii version is the most fun version to play. 'Nuff said. If you want graphics, buy yourself a PC or go run around in a field.
Dominic @ Oct 6th 2006 4:18PM
@ 16 How is hell could you be "pretty sure" the PS3 version looked better? Have you played it? Geez just cause they reported that the motion sensing melee felt tacked on has nothing to do with them be pro 360. Its called a review, they played it and then they give you the reader their thoughts. Just because their thoughts aren't along the same lines as yours doesn't mean they are fanboys.
bubba shrimp @ Oct 6th 2006 4:19PM
He did mention that online was only ready for the 360. ??? This late in the game...I would think that if Online was not playable on the PS3 by now...it can probably be added to the list of games loosing online support for the PS3 this fall.
More bad news for Sony.
TRUTH @ Oct 6th 2006 4:22PM
360 looked the best. Its been out for a year. PS3 idiots are in denial. PS3 won't ever look better than 360 but it could look identical in a couple of years. Not worth $600. Wake up! No way possible it looked better than the 360...no way...the ps3 has not been worked on long enough.
Sloar @ Oct 6th 2006 4:24PM
@astareus
did you even read post 16 or any posts regarding the "europeans don't care" story? my point was that everyone seems to think joystiq has an anti-sony agenda. joystiq is reporting what's in the news. is it their fault that sony has had nothing but bad press for the last few months? and it's not simply joystiq's agenda--sony's stock has been dropping as well. it's just remarkable to me that people are arguing so much about a product they haven't seen. instead of yelling "sony's better" or "microsoft's better" or "the wii will rule all", let's just wait until we can actually compare the finished product rather than comparing what sony says to everything else. because heaven knows that you can't believe everything sony (or microsoft or nintendo) says as gospel.
dantebk @ Oct 6th 2006 4:27PM
Are we positively sure the Wii won't have multiplayer? That's the only thing making me iffy on the Wii vs. 360 debate for this game. The graphics in the Wii picture look good enough, I don't know if I'd place graphics above gameplay on the importance scale.
But multiplayer... that's tempting. Why with the Wii having online support and the DS already on the network would a big launch game like this NOT have a multiplayer option?
logikil @ Oct 6th 2006 4:29PM
BMWM3P
The preview doesnt mention a real difference between the two graphically just saying that they look different. But the Preview does glow about the graphics on the 360 version. Frankly that would lead me to believe that the 360 version, if even slightly, looks a bit better. Why does that upset you man? You're another person that frequents this site that is a slobbering PS fanboy. But if these guys give a fair and seemingly objective preview that may indicate that your console of choice doesnt look like the end all be all version of the game, why get mad? Hell wii fanboys now that its gonna look like shit on the wii when compared to the other two systems but you dont see them crying.
logikil @ Oct 6th 2006 4:31PM
dantebk
It's already been reported that beyond 1st party titles, pretty much no 3rd party titles at launch or until early 2007 will have "online" multiplayer. You may get some split screen or something, but beyond that SOL.
Sorry bro.
redspear @ Oct 6th 2006 4:33PM
#26
Right now honestly Sony is giving its own bad news with regard to that. However this is not that article and this seems fairly even handed. It is entirely possible that the 360 and PS3 have different graphics but look the same. Which would be a reason for them not saying system X has the best graphics.
Also with regard to calling the shake thing takes on it very well could have that feeling since they only had since E3 to put that feature in.
And as for everyone seeming to think that Joystiq has an anti-sony agenda please keep in mind that is not the case. It seems tome that fanboys like Azn1080P, BMWM3P, Jeff, Darryl, and so on are very vocal about any negative news towards the PS3 and extremely defensive.
The PS3 has not really shown anything that is out of this world in actual gameplay. Motorstorm looks good but not like the "gameplay" trailer they released. and Joystiq did report the good news of HDMI on the core system...
Wait until the PS3 comes out. After the immenent HW failures at launch you will see plenty of good news for the PS3.
Borat @ Oct 6th 2006 4:55PM
Wow so they are working on 3 different versions of CoD 3? I was expecting the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions to be 95% identical, especially in the graphics/sound department.
You guys didnt mention how aiming works in the Wii version. Is it similar to Red Steel or Metroid? Is the reticule fixed like PC FPS? I remember seeing a video a few weeks ago and it looked like it controlled well.
aegies @ Oct 6th 2006 4:56PM
gametrailers has some hi def gameplay footage of the 360 version, if anyone's interested.
MysticX @ Oct 6th 2006 5:02PM
For gods sake people. It´s been said before that games which have no multiplayer at the moment may get multiplayer through the WiiConnect in 2007, otherwise no biggy. I´ll just play CoD online on my PC since I would more like to play Mario Kart Wii online, but where on earth is that game?!?
Chronos_777 @ Oct 6th 2006 5:03PM
I'm thinking both 360 and Wii. Sounds like a Blast!
Ben @ Oct 6th 2006 5:16PM
Wii people please realize that you have to be the most hypocritical people on the planet. Gameplay over graphics seems to be the mantra. Except when it comes to the lack of online gameplay. All of a sudden that doesn't matter.
To be honest, the Wii version looks like shite. I would expect that where the Wii is really going to shine will be in the first party department as always. In this area, they won't be competing against 360 and PS3 versions of the same game.
Of course this brings up my biggest complaint. The Wii should have been more powerful. I hate that I have to choose between the graphics of the 360 or the gameplay of the Wii. If Nintendo would have put out a system similar to the 360 in processing power, they could have had the best of both worlds. Instead they chose to build highly profitable system that is not up to par with their main competition. To say that they aren't competing with Sony and Microsoft is ridiculous. Of course they are. This game is a perfect example.
Again, as great as the Wii gameplay may be (and the jury is still out on that one for me until I play it), you can't tell me that you wouldn't want graphics and online capabilities to go along with that gameplay.
rafa @ Oct 6th 2006 5:21PM
Will any of them support more than 16 players online (preferrably 32+)? How about 4 players online from one console? The 360 CoD2 suffered on both of these.
Haunted One @ Oct 6th 2006 5:23PM
A good article that should please everyone:
PS3 version - looks great, motion-sensing capabilities of sixaxis are integrated into the game.
360 version - looks great, great support for online multiplayer gaming.
Wii version - looks ok, is tons of fun.
My personal choice: the Wii version, because fun > everything else.
If someone is complaining at this article, there's just no helping them I guess.
Mike @ Oct 6th 2006 5:23PM
Dang it. I knew this would happen. Now I'm torn between getting the 360 version for graphics or the Wii version for the control.
Raptor @ Oct 6th 2006 5:25PM
I'm a happy 360 owner and COD2 player, eagerly looking forward to this game, but I wonder if there might be a typo in the opening paragraph, where I've inserted a phrase in brackets:
"Looking across the field of battle through the field glasses on the 360 looked crisp and sharp. Running through a forest full of hidden Germans [on the PS3?] looked photorealistic, even with falling leaves that you could zoom in on and see every close-up detail. Running through burned out buildings on the Wii looked ... GameCubish."
He's talking about 3 systems, has 3 sentences, but doesn't specifically mention the PS3, so maybe he meant the second of the 3 sentences to be referring to the PS3. I'm sure Sony fans hope so.
Dane @ Oct 6th 2006 5:27PM
"We were rounded up in short order and taken into the Xbox 360 room, since multiplayer wasn't working on the PS3 yet, although the single player version did look very attractive."
For everyone not sure whether the PS3 or Xbox360 version looked better, this says it all... Clearly the PS3 version was NOT the better looking or complete.
logikil @ Oct 6th 2006 5:28PM
Ben:
I'm looking forward to getting the Wii myself, but i am a bit more realistic. My main purpose is for 1st party games and as a way to bring my girlfriend into gamin. I've already moved in that direction slightly by picking her up a pink ds lite, which she now takes with her everywhere. I can pretty much guarantee that any cross platform game that comes out will be housed on my 360 and maybe a PS3 in the future. Call me a graphics snob if you will, but Live and the graphics are enough to sway me to the Xbox.
But the wii will definitely have a home under my television, and 4 million for the holiday season almost guarantees it a spot.
Oh and as for online....even the most devout Wii snod has got to realize that the friend code system is pretty primitive, and that if you really want online play you get an Xbox. It's not really something you can argue against.
Vince @ Oct 6th 2006 5:31PM
I thought it was already established that the PS3 would, in general, be the prettier visually on multi-platform titles - moot.
Josh @ Oct 6th 2006 5:48PM
Eric Von Shpeel:
"I cant imagine CoD without online, seems a bit pointless. Added to the fact that it will be the first CoD to ever take a backwards step in terms of graphics theres no way I would even consider getting the Wii version. If I want crappy graphics and a crosshair that moves depending on where I point I will go play CoD1 on the PC."
What? I play CoD for PC frequently and the game is just like any other FPS. The crosshair always stays in the center of the HUD.
I never got CoD 2, though, since I don't like the idea of having regenerating health in a WORLD WAR II GAME! Jeez...
joe smith @ Oct 6th 2006 5:48PM
Vince - established by who? If you look objectively at the specs, there is very little reason to believe the PS3 will have any graphics advantage over 360. The only place I could imagine a difference might be in the video output since that is what Sony does for a living, but the 360 has a damned nice signal itself. In terms of texture handling, lighting, shaders, etc... it is practically a wash between the two systems. And in the case of a multi-platform game at launch, I would expec t360 to have an edge if only because the tools and pipelines will already be in place for a stable system with artists knowing how to exploit it. As opposed to PS3 where they will stillb e scrambling to get it together (like they had to do for 360 launch last year). IF they manage to make the PS3 version even comparable to 360 in time for launch, I will be amazed and they will deserve great credit.
And I'll believe on-line play for PS3 when I see it.
logikil @ Oct 6th 2006 5:52PM
Vince:
Not quite sure where you got a statement that generalized. For instance, Assassin's Creed, generally speaking appears to have sharper crisper textures under the 360 as opposed to the PS3. Both look visually incredible, but i think the ability to utilize more than 256 MB of video memory as well as the 10MB of extra buffer space give it an slight edge with regards to textures. It'll be slight, but your statement doesnt necessarily hold true.
striderhayasa @ Oct 6th 2006 5:56PM
@ logikil
Sure you can argue against it. Live is better but Nintendo Wifi does work. I've had great fun playing games online with my DS. Besides Wii is going to have one FC for the unit, not one for each game. Even aquiring FCs in games like Metroid is easy. Just invite the player to be a rival and their FC is saved to your DS. I'm sure Wii will offer a similar function for FCs.
Back on topic...I'm not buying a 360 or a ps3 this year. I'm getting a Wii so that narrows it down. The lack of online play is a hurt-piece and I have no idea why Nintendo wouldn't have Wii WiFi up and running at launch. But hey, it is what it is.
The wii version doesn't look as good as the PS3 and the 360 version but it's good enough. For a port, that's about what I expect. I'll look toward the exclusives and the first party titles to push the console graphically.
logikil @ Oct 6th 2006 6:03PM
Striderhayasa:
"Live is better but Nintendo Wifi does work."
See you proved my point :). I've played Tetris and MK and Hunters all online and they are fun, but for ease of use and all Live really is the better online system. Not to say the Nintendo Wifi doesnt have its place...it's just behind Live.
I'm curious about older network enabled Gamecube games. It'll be interesting to see if you can run MK Double Dash over Wifi.
Vince @ Oct 6th 2006 6:15PM
logikil & joe smith
All I can say is - "It's the word on the street". (rolleyes)
From what I've digested from all the articles I've glanced at on the subject, it seems the RSX in tandem with the Cell processor should have the edge on screen, in theory.
I'm usually wrong though.
Perhaps my last post was a bit vague, I should have put
redspear @ Oct 6th 2006 6:34PM
BTW I was curious how did the Wii-mote compare to the PC Moudse combo or Dual Analog? I like FPS's but I despise them on concole mostly because of the slow turning clunky aiming large hit boxes and delayed reaction from AI. I am hoping the wii brings a more responsive system to consoles even if there is a smaller learning curve.
striderhayasa @ Oct 6th 2006 6:44PM
@ logikil
Good point, would Mario Kart DD run on Nintendo Wifi?
Does anyone have any word on that? Could we dust off Phantasy Star Online and get it in on Wifi?