WoW fans deconstruct South Park
World of Warcraft fanatics have taken up their swords and a battle is being waged against villanous Wikipedia editors. At the center of this bloodfest is a listing of WOW incongruences found in the wiki entry of the latest South Park episode, "Make Love, Not Warcraft."At this moment, it looks like the uppity Wiki elite have taken all of "useless trivia" out, but we painstakingly copied all of the removed information (via the entry's history) and have it for you below after the break. If there is any missing continuity errors, be sure to let us know. Just don't blame us if someone laughs at you.
- The sword used to defeat the ganker is graphically identical to the epic sword The Hungering Cold, although it doesn't work like the one in this episode.
- The unnamed Renegade player does not have a single line of dialogue. His stature partially resembles Tourettes Guy.
- The fictional Sword of a Thousand Truths does 120.0 DPS, has a mana burn proc, and has a +80 Stamina enchant. Such a weapon would be incredibly powerful and unbalanced, as the Blizzard employees suggest. Imbalanced weapons and armor do in fact exist within the game that are attainable by players.
- Trailers for this episode show Stan and Kyle in what appears to be the Undercity, right after Kenny is killed. In the airing of the show, they were in Goldshire.
- When Randy hijacks a car to take himself and the two blizzard employees to Cartman's house, he does it in the exact same way as in the video game Grand Theft Auto.
- When asked what enchantment his cloak has Stan claims "+15 agility" but the highest agility enchantment for cloaks is +3.
- Stan's name in the game is really Staniscool, not Luvs2SPWG
- Cartman's character, a Dwarf Warrior named bigboNed3, is the main tank and wilds an Unyielding Maul. He is the leader of the boys' group and is always the last killed. He is a warrior, but when you see his actionbar, it looks like a Rogue's action bar (it has Eviscerate and Stealth).
- Stan's character -- either Staniscool or Luvs2SPWG -- is a Human Warrior. His armor color is the same as his hate. Though, he could be considered a paladin until the end, when Cartman tells Stan to check his Fury talents, a warrior talent branch.
- Kyle is a Human Mage. Kyle's character has an Arcane/Fire spec. His armor color is the same as his hat. Cartman makes fun of his character because it is female.
- Kenny is a Human warrior. Kenny's character dies twice in game, the first time receiving the usual "Oh my God, they killed Kenny" response from his friends. The second time, Jimmy informs that Kenny is down. His armor color is the same as his parka. Kenny has Trueshot Aura which is mentioned he uses. Kenny character kicks the ganker in the final fight (which interrupts spellcasting), so he might also be a rogue.
- Randy Marsh's character, Falcorn, is a Human Warrior. He incorrectly suggests that he is a hunter.
- Token is a Human Rogue. His class is not made explicit, but his leather armor and melee fighting suggests a rogue. His character is dark skinned just like him.
- Jmmy's character is a Night Elf and is wearing a quiver and leather armor, suggesting a hunter.
- Timmy is a Human and is wearing the starting equipment for the priest class.
- Butters has the exact same character as Cartman. After Cartman tells him to change characters, he leaves. Although it is not mentioned, another human female is with the group afterwards that may be Butters again.
- Kyle's brother Ike is a human and is wearing the Devout set (minus the head), an end-game dungeon set for priests.
- Clyde is a Night Elf Hunter. He is wielding a crossbow and wearing leather armor.
- Tweek is a gonme. Tweek's character is seen only on fire, but he appears to have a sword and shield. Warriors are the only gnome class who can use shields.
- Craig is a gnome. Craig's character is wearing robes and a staff, and Cartman instructs him to use his intellect buff – a spell only mages can cast.
Goofs
- While fighting the Renegade, Cartman uses Mocking Blow. This special attack meant to draw a hostile NPC's attention has little effect on a human controlled enemy. Dialogue hints that Cartman is a warrior, although when his screen is shown it is clear that he is actually a Rogue; which would make his weilding of a two-handed mace impossible.
- Stan's character is wearing a Frostwolf Battle Tabard, an item available to buy only for Horde players.
- The skills Kenny is instructed to use in the game suggest he is a Hunter, a class not allowed by his obvious Human race. He may actually be a Rogue or a Warrior instead.
- The Renegade seems to be a Mage, but wears a Plate helm. Mages are restricted to cloth armor.
- Butters states that only four races are available. This is only true if one ignores the Horde, as the rest of the episode seems to do.
- There is no spell that summons four Scorpids, as the Renegade does. (though the renegade is possibly a hacker/modder since he surpassed level limits and is able to fight and kill others even oustide of duels)
- The known character names (bigboNed3 for Cartman and Luvs2SPWGE for Stan) would not be allowed.
- The episode appears to ignore the concept of Soulbound items, both with Randy handing the Sword of A Thousand Truths to Stan and Cartman instructing Stan to give his cloak to Kenny. Most high powered items in the game become Soulbound either when equipped or picked up and cannot be traded.
- In the game, thrown away items (such as The Sword of a Thousand Truths at the end) disappear rather than remain.
- Cartman's plan to level up is flawed. Boars, like all other creatures, have a fighting difficulty and experience point award relative to their level vs. the player's level. At some point, the boars would become "trivial" to the boys' characters and grant no experience at all.
- The boys' characters seem to wear armor of a level too high to allow them to be able to go up 30-50 levels more.
- It is impossible for characters to attack other characters except in certain special locations and circumstances (and even duels do not kill a character, but leave them with one hit point). This is a deliberate incongruity.
- In the real game, the maximum level pending the next expansion is 60. At this level, the Renegade could have easily been taken care of by the Admins or the several other Level 60s on most servers. This is most likely also a deliberate incongruity.
- There are over 100 separate servers for World of Warcraft with limited interaction between them. One Renegade could at best inconvenience only one server.
- Crushing an enemy's head into a bloody pulp as depicted in the final fight is impossible in the game.
- Contrary to implications in the episode, character death is at best a minor inconvenience in World of Warcraft, overcome with time, effort and/or in-game money. One implication of this is that the boys accomplished nothing and the Renegade would be back at full strength less than five minutes after the end of the episode.
- In one shot there is a close up on the XP bar with a counter with the amount of experience counting upwards as a number, with the bar filling up smoothly. The numbers wouldn't be there without a mod, but you don't see this in any other shots of the game. Also the XP bar doesn't fill up constantly and smoothly, but instead jumps up whenever XP is gained.
- The Sword of a Thousand Truths is uploaded to the client computer. World of Warcraft stores all items on the server, as allowing players to use locally-stored items would result in many hacked, unbalanced items being used.
- The episode did a remarkably accurate job of representing the ridiculous levels of zeal and seriousness with which WoW-devoted players approach the game. Just look at this Wikipedia entry.










Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Flash @ Oct 10th 2006 6:31PM
WOW is for white looser kids, with NO LIFE like most of the ppl here, or the ones that play xbox.
Kestrel @ Oct 10th 2006 6:41PM
WoW blows, and I can easily see why that list would've been removed from the Wiki. It is, after all, an encyclopedia, not IMDB.
William @ Oct 10th 2006 6:42PM
Flash. DO NOT MAKE RACIST COMMENTS OR IGNORANT COMMENTS
White people ARENT THE ONLY ONES WHO PLAY WOW
Wow you ignorant SoB. Xbox=Looser (learn to spell loser) Wow just... don't even post again.
razer @ Oct 10th 2006 6:49PM
Cant have one post on this site without some (i assume) Sony fanboy throwing out another cheap shot at Xbox. You are an r-tard! (as Stan in SP would say)
Rob @ Oct 10th 2006 6:50PM
I'm sorry, but what a fucking nerdy thing to do.
Namrepus221 @ Oct 10th 2006 6:52PM
The message states that Butters says there are only 4 races not including the Horde. This is acctually true for the episode because every other player in South Park is on the Alliance and in order for a party to work they all would have to be on the Alliance.
Jonathon Wagner @ Oct 10th 2006 6:57PM
what's really funny is that I am absolutely positive that trey and matt did the errors on purpose just to get them WoW boys all riled up.
Eih'Beir @ Oct 10th 2006 7:03PM
Yeah, Go Butters!
Hello Kitty Island Adventure Rules!
Flash @ Oct 10th 2006 7:05PM
William:
I can assure you then 99.9999999% of ppl that play wow are white. That game is for plain loosers, LOOSERS!!!!!!
Hardcore @ Oct 10th 2006 7:08PM
People need to drink some kool aid and commit mass suicide if this is what they do with their lives.
broseph @ Oct 10th 2006 7:11PM
I'm having trouble telling- but, where exactly did this gamers are nerds idea come from? I see no evidence.
Mitsuo @ Oct 10th 2006 7:13PM
I just have to say one thing...WOW! No not the gay ass game, but I'm actualy saying WOW! If people can find these many errors for a episode based off a game they have no life! I feel sorry for the people that are playing this game, I really do.
Jeff @ Oct 10th 2006 7:36PM
How many Black (notice the capitol B) people that you know play WoW? How many Black people play games like that at all? Not nearly as many White people. I'm sure WoW isn't "99.999999999% white" but I'd be surprised if it wasn't somewhere in the 60's at the very least, maybe closer to 80% or so. But that's just a guess.
Next, just because people can point out a lot of inaccuracies doesn't mean they don't have a life. I mean, if they did an episode making fun of cars, I'm sure car fanatics could point out tons of inaccuracies. Street racers and the like usually aren't considered "dorks," now are they? How about gun nuts? People who are really into something can do stuff like that, regardless of the subject matter.
Lastly, "hardcore" gamers are usually nerds. At least that's my experience anyway.
bayushisan @ Oct 10th 2006 7:53PM
You know, based on some of the posts concerning this story, I'd say that more than a few people need some therapy. Don't like the game? Fine, the answer there is don't play it.
However, considering that there are millions of Chinese players and people who play WOW all over the world. I'd hardly call it a "white only" game. In point of fact its more than a little insulting to the gaming community as a whole. Take your bigotry and kindly shove it where the sun doesn't shine. We'll all be happier not listening to your Thompsonesque drivel.
silent bob @ Oct 10th 2006 7:54PM
Flash, I really do enjoy when posters on this site say that everyone else on the site have no life. I suppose you were just doing your normal cool kid websurfing for cool things like cars and skateboards when you stumbled accross this nerdy website so you decided to post to let us know how nerdy we are.
End Sarcasm. You're probably someone, who, much like the rest of us, checks this website almost daily because you enjoy the same things as us people with no life. You're like the kid at the special olympics who goes around calling everyone else retards.
sev4 pri1 @ Oct 10th 2006 7:55PM
this is way nerdier than I expected.
Conbus @ Oct 10th 2006 7:57PM
I guess you will always find ppl who make ignorant comments on the net, unavoidable.
About WoW, although I haven't played it, I think alot of ppl are unfairly bashing it. It's the ppl who have no lives and actually care to point out all the errors in the article that deserve the bashing.
Really funny South Park btw.
makesevenupyours @ Oct 10th 2006 7:59PM
"The episode did a remarkably accurate job of representing the ridiculous levels of zeal and seriousness with which WoW-devoted players approach the game. Just look at this Wikipedia entry."
by far the best entry.
Flash @ Oct 10th 2006 8:15PM
Ok I would like to edit my former post, as I was very emotional at the time. I would like to lower my estamate of white players to 92%, so 92% of ppl that play WOW are fat white ppl with no life. I do know that their are some Black kids with no life, and other.
N3k74r @ Oct 10th 2006 8:18PM
Wow. Pretty nerdy.
LordMinogue @ Oct 10th 2006 8:37PM
Butters: "I dont play World of Warcraft"
Cartman: "...Butters, you said your on your computer all the time"
Butters: "Yeah, but I'm playing Hello Kitty: Island Adventures"
Cartman: "Butters, go buy World of Warcraft, install it on your computor, and join the online sensation before we all murder you!"
jarod @ Oct 10th 2006 8:38PM
damn look at all the WOW hate in these comments. why for? its no better than all you idiots that buy the same god damn madden game every year.
JM @ Oct 10th 2006 8:53PM
Flash, just beacuse everytime you run to your mommy and ask her to buy you WoW and she says no, doesn't mean you should be an ignorant SoB and take your hatred here. I am black. I play WoW. I also have a life, like lots of people who play games. I also have an xbox360, and a PS2. I wont pull "magic percentages" out of thin air, because only retards do that. For every game there are fanboys who are maniacs about continuity. Just because some of those fanboys edited this article, doesn't represent the WoW community as a whole. Now why dont you run along to your daddys computer and play something your speed, like Runescape or adventure quest? and think twice before you decide to represent black or white people. I fyou don't have anything intelligent to say, dont say it at all
silent bob @ Oct 10th 2006 9:11PM
I don't understand something. Every time there is an article about WoW on joystiq, the first couple of posts are always like "i don't play WoW cuz i have a life unlike you other nerds. get out of your mom's basement and do something."
Why do you people waste your time bashing something that you have no idea about? It doesn't make any sense to me. What do you get out of telling us we're losers? If you don't care about the article, then don't bother posting. Telling people how much you hate an entire game genre, or dare I say culture, serves no purpose other than making yourself look like an asshole.
Also flash I play WoW regularly and I am almost positive that I am in better shape then you. Thank god most people like you think they're to cool for WoW, or the game would be much less enjoyable.
Martin @ Oct 10th 2006 9:18PM
What is SPWGE? I thought Stan's user name was Loves2Smooch as the admins say when they go to Stans house. As for the WOW stuff, no clue, I have a life.
FinalDelerium @ Oct 10th 2006 9:27PM
How does the colour of someone's skin determine whether or not they like WOW? Seriously. I'm betting the ratio of white to black WOW players is almost exactly the same as the ratio of white to black people with home computers with internet access.
Seriously flash, what you're saying is just foolishness. And offensive.
Oh, and fanboys, irritating. Just coz you like something doesnt mean there is anything wrong with other people for liking something different, or disliking what you like. Certainly, discuss it, but dont rip on people for not aggreeing with you. That's what caused the holocaust. (please note, i am not saying that the fanboy wars is comparable to the slaughter of millions, i'm just saying that giving people crap for having individual beliefs is wrong in any and all circumstances)
pwnyou @ Oct 10th 2006 9:30PM
geeks. nerds. cartman's leadership is exactly what i had pictured it for raid leaders and shit. losers.
HarmfulDose @ Oct 10th 2006 9:36PM
I agree, white people are not the only ones who play WoW, asians do too.....it's their job...
FSK405K @ Oct 10th 2006 9:49PM
99.9999% aren't white. There's at least 20% asians. Everyone else is white.
/sarcasm off
Jok3r @ Oct 10th 2006 10:29PM
Too much WOW = no time for a job = you sucking $ from your mom = you are a leech piece of shit no good to society = worthless = can handle real life = no friends/girlfriend = might as well log off life
el kabong @ Oct 10th 2006 10:36PM
I'm black, I play wow, and I'm not nerdy. My white co-workers play wow, and they aren't nerds either. What's funny to me, is that the married guys at my job are all higher lvld than the single ones, mostly because on friday nights, their wives won't let them go out, so they're inside leveling. In summary, black people play wow, and men who can get, and marry women play wow as well. Thank you.
Fierce360 @ Oct 10th 2006 10:44PM
man, people hate each other too much. EVERYONE posting on this website plays video games. so if you are insulting someone for playing video games, you are a loser, probably venting out your frustration from being picked on all your life. Take your hate elsewhere, it is not wanted here.
jc @ Oct 10th 2006 10:59PM
Neeeeeeerrrrdddddddsssss!!!
NothingShocking @ Oct 10th 2006 11:01PM
I am a 23 year old married guy with a full time job and am actively involved in church and other activities. I also play WoW around 3-4 hours a night. I play with some friends I know in real life, including one who is in the Air Force stationed in Germany (Which is really the only time I get to interact with him). I belong to a guild of mostly 20-30 somethings who have what most would consider "normal" lives, many even have children of their own.
I don't see anything about that which would classify us as losers. It's just what we happen to like to do, and definately more social *gasp* then spending all night staring at a television. Please don't classify me or my friends when you really have no idea what you're talking about.
chales @ Oct 11th 2006 12:50AM
WoW is a fun game that can be enjoyed like any other videogame if played in moderation. The stereotype created of WoW players being nerds with no life does have a strong basis on many documented cases of people leaving their jobs, wives and friends to spend more time playing. But like with every other passtime if you know how to place it in your life, not let it go above other priorities, and not let the game get too serious, you can enjoy it in a healthy manner.
Even if you believe you are socializing because you are chatting to people, you ARE staying indoors and are not interacting with family and close friends that might not play WoW. I woulndn't say it is less productive than other things (movies, surfing, skating, golfing - none of them do get you any farther in life than playing a good videogame with friends - unless its to suck up to your boss), but you would not be exercising, would lose true social skills (since internet chatting is NEVER the same as talking personally to other people with different interests).
In summary do whatever the hell you want, its your free time, and don't let other people calling you a nerd get you down since you are probably listening to some idiot that finds enjoyment out of trolling forums and making people feel bad about who they are. They do it to feel the rush of hurting someone and getting a rise out of people that he knows he will never see face to face, and so they go on and on and thrive from people answering to their petty ideas.
/rant off
onetrueping @ Oct 11th 2006 1:28AM
I appreciate people intelligently discussing issues as much as the next guy. But when the first few (dozen) posts are full of racial slurs, broad generalizations, and general hate, I start to understand how other people (read: non-gamers) can see us as angry, violent people.
Stop being empty-headed assholes to each other and start discussing with rationality. To anyone who visits, you represent the rest of us who play games. Bash the Jack Thompsons of the world all you want, but until you guys shape up in your discussions with each other, your defense of our hobby will be hollow, and you'll just be providing them with more ammunition to shoot our industry down.
Oh, and who's the bigger loser: the person who spends his time cooperating with others online for a large portion of his life, or the one who spends the same amount of time lurking on a news blog to post such vile filth as the first thing everyone sees?
'Nuf said.
mocax @ Oct 11th 2006 2:23AM
Guild Wars pwnz WoW!!!111times3!!1one!
nah, I'm just jealous GW don't get no cartoon treatment for the publicity.....
Xvash2 @ Oct 11th 2006 2:50AM
The fact that someone took the time to write this is sad.
sdshannon @ Oct 11th 2006 3:05AM
Cartman uses the word "command" in reference to a hot key . .. they must be using macs!
Henry @ Oct 11th 2006 3:17AM
I play WoW, and the only other person I know personally who plays it is black, so you can stop with that bullshit for a start.
vaylen @ Oct 11th 2006 3:34AM
Let's get one thing straight. Nerd is another word for someone who devotes so much of his/her life to one passion that they leave little or no life to devote to endeavors which would create a more rounded existence.
Yes, there are game nerds (which obviously the editors of that Wiki were) and there are computer nerds who end up working in IT departments.
But your assumption that there are "cool" nerds and "uncool" nerds is way off.
There are CAR nerds (monster garage!?!?)
DOG nerds (*cough* Westminster *cough*)
SPORTS nerds (I heard they have fantasy GOLF now, WTF?!?)
FITNESS nerds (listening to of them talk in a GNC is absurdly amusing)
WINE nerds (for more info, watch 'Sideways')
and POKER nerds (if everything that comes out of your mouth is a term used in 'Rounders', you ARE the sucker)
When you devote so much of your time to something that it retards growth in almost every other area of your life, you are a nerd.
I'm a web-post nerd.
Breachless @ Oct 11th 2006 8:41AM
Flash:
Even Dave Chapelle plays WoW...
Racist.
Dignan17 @ Oct 11th 2006 8:56AM
"His armor color is the same as his hate."
Wow, that's pretty deep. Or is it mood armor?
"I hate the liberal racism this country has developed."
[sarcasm]Oh yeah, the poor white man and the terrible injustices he faces.[/sarcasm]
And stop throwing around the word liberal like it's a derogatory term. That's really starting to wear thin these days. I certainly don't use "conservative" that way. Republican, maybe, but not conservative :)
Alec @ Oct 11th 2006 9:18AM
Wow, I'm hearing "Jane, you ignorant slut" in my mind over and over again for some reason! haha!
For those that take this South Park episode as literal, get out of the house. Seriously! Remember that thing we in the real world call the sun? Yeah, get out into it and maybe throw a ball around or something!
This show is supposed to be funny and make fun of warcraft and those that play it. I personally play it and have fun playing it. Yet, I'm not so into the game that I can't take a joke. Then again, I have no clue what the hell The Hungering Cold is or what its stats are! Take it lightly and move on!
Todd @ Oct 11th 2006 9:32AM
"His armor color is the same as his hate."
That's a typo. It's supposed to be "hat" obviously.
Don't mind Flash, he's a regular WoW player too and he's a giant douche in the game too.
Hah hah, "Jane, you ignorant slut" great SNL reference. I loved the South Park episode. Like no episode about another medium, it isn't true to form. That's like expecting CSI to portray crime scene investigation seriously. C'mon people.
Saneless @ Oct 11th 2006 10:10AM
Heh stupid nerds. There's a war going on that they should be outraged about, but their precious loser time waste gets attacked and they lose their crap.
viewtiful @ Oct 11th 2006 11:29AM
Flash, next time you want to troll, double check your spelling or someone might label you as a "Loser!" not like your girlfriend who is LOOSER than your Mom. He's an idiot and hopefully he hasn't passed on his genetic material yet. When it comes to the game mechanics, it is sort of a "Fantasy WoW." Blizzard said they helped in making this episode. Gee, if I had Blizz helping to make an episode, they probably made a South Park private server. Then, the creators/writers/animators can do whatever the hell they wanted. People that actually thought that this was done on a public server make me laugh. I am a WoW enthusiast whereas most of my friends are WoW nerds. I remember ppl giving Everquest a load of crap when it was top dog. There is no MMO that is the best. I tried them all and WoW is just more sociable.
Halladay @ Oct 11th 2006 2:26PM
There's nothing wrong with playing WOW. It's the dorks who go on the internet, edit a Wikipedia entry due to inaccuracies of WOW from a South Park episode that need to step away from the keyboard. If you defend it with that much zeal, there's no hope for you. Doing things like that brings you to a whole other level of geekiness.
Tim @ Oct 12th 2006 2:35AM
1. I play WoW
2. I watch South Park
3. This is just a fun mixture of both and looking for all that stuff in it, just to start another flame war or show yr precious feelings being hurt is... childish.
Watch the thing, have a good laugh and go party with RL friends ;)
Madster @ Oct 12th 2006 3:10AM
"1. WOW is for white looser kids, with NO LIFE like most of the ppl here, or the ones that play xbox.
BTW, first post."
;)
and yeah, this is beyond my nerd treshold. Way beyond.