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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:04PM (Unverified) said

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Video killed the radio star, video killed the radio star!
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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What does it say that even before I read the article, I got excited about a "Kill Doctor Lucky" photo? Nothing beats the Monkey's Paw, baby.

One thing I've found in discussions with various industry folk is how much everyone involved in the industry loves all sorts of games. I've had plenty of discussions about Catan at E3. So many developers play D&D that it's comical. The prospect of a Monopoly game (especially with the new Mega Monopoly out there) hangs out there like the blink scenario - who would wuss out? The more literary amongst us laugh when the less literary think that Scrabble is just about luck of the tile draw and that the game lacks strategy.

And the above list forgets the primary reason to play analog games - because a good game is worth playing no matter what the format is.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:08PM jsgrill said

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I'm turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:08PM dantebk said

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I don't know why you'd say analog games are dead/dying. Whenever I get together with my closest friends, it's a struggle to even get them to agree to Mario Kart. They always want to play Cranium, or Monopoly, or Scattergories, or any of a half-dozen card games.

Maybe it seems like analog games are dead/dying because there aren't any worthwhile new games. I don't buy as many games as a lot of people on this site I'm sure, but I'll still get 10-15 new games a year, but when was the last time I bought a new board game? Maybe a year ago? And even the "new" games I buy are just new to me... the last one I bought was Taboo, and a Game of Life-variant before that.

Maybe we can compromise. I have Super Mario Bros. themed Uno cards.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:09PM Crono141 said

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THis is a great article with a very good point.

Nintendo is right, touching IS good, and I can't stand playing chess on a PC when I've got a board set up on my table. It is so much more fun to be able to touch the pieces.

Digital games will never have this kind of "force feedback" until 50 or 100 (or 10 to 20) years from now, when VR hits the mainstream. And I mean REAL VR, holodeck style interactions.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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Amen to all that. Video killed nothing for me. I have a master rank in bridge (though my membership has lapsed, my rating is waiting for me if I decide to re-up). I play pen-and-paper roleplaying games regularly and miniatures games when I can. Put a board, card, dice, alternate reality or - yes - video game in front of me, and I'll play it. My DS and PS2 are getting the majority of my time share right now, but Perplex City has my mind share, and I'll throw down in Othello, Apples to Apples or plain old touch football any time.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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Foppe, I hate you. DDR SuperNOVA decided I needed to play that song twice in a row this morning while I was doing random selections - once on beginner and once on challenge, just for the sheer WTF of it all. No, I don't know why the post or writing my comment didn't stick that back in my head, but your comment did.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:14PM (Unverified) said

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How absolutely bizarre. I'm currently grinding through Purdue University's School of Electrical and Computer Engineering, and a few days ago I was musing about the digital versus analog world (effectively computer versus electrical engineering, digital versus analog circuits).

And interestingly enough, Digital Killed the Analog Star popped into my mind. Hm. I need to study less.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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Another big advantage to tabletop/human-run games is the "HOuse Rules" factor. My friends and I played Kill Doctor Lucky with a soundtrack of songs we picke,d one for each room. If you were in the room ready to make the killing blow with your room's song on the stereo, you got a bonus to your weapon. It's little (or in our case, involved and dorky) things like that that make tabletop games so much fun to play.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:28PM (Unverified) said

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What's this generalization about us turning our backs on board games? What the hell? Try some Carcassone or Ticket to Ride. Board games can be awesome. I never turned my back on "analog." I'm sure many other gamers stay true to their "analog" roots as well.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with 32 and WhiteRoseDuelist.

Board gaming's as alive as ever for me and my group of friends. We have a weekly board game/pen & paper RPG session. 4 of us are former Squaresoft testers, 1 of us is currently a developer, as is one of our other guys who's just too swamped to show up anymore, and another who moved up north to work at Namco Bandai.

If you haven't played Puerto Rico, Alhambra, Ticket to Ride, Carcassonne, Arkham Horror or Twilight Imperium, you guys are missing out on a lot of fun.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:43PM Gimbal said

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Digital has expanded upon the analog to me. Why am I being presented with a false choice? I don't have to pick one or the other. The Dawn of War series is just another way for me to play Warhammer with friends (Besides, the smoking hot Sisters of Battle have yet to be properly represented in this series, and even when they are, It won't stop me from enjoying the tabletop game one bit). I can also read Warhammer novels (preferably by Dan Abnet). They even have Warhammer card games. All these things compliment each other.

And board games are so much better now than before. Most people wouldn't know that because nobody looks for them any more, but they have matured. Check out boardgamegeeks.com and you'll find way more than just Monopoly there.

And since you jerks had to go put those damn songs in my head, here's is one for you:

http://anthems.zdnet.co.uk/anthems/infogrames.mp3

At first you will laugh...but then you will cry when it gets stuck in your head.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:48PM (Unverified) said

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Number 10: I AGREE! Carcassone and Settlers of Catan are some of the best board games. I love board games and slowly meeting more people (adults) who enjoy them too. Thanks to my gf, she has a crap load more board games than I ever had and she loves to kick my ass in them. Board games FTW, socialize, chat and have fun!
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 3:49PM (Unverified) said

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Settlers of Catan is a fairly new board game and I play that with my friends every once in a while. Now it is coming out on Xbox live so we will probably just play it there.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 4:24PM (Unverified) said

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When you say Catan is new, you mean compared to games like Monopoly or Scrabble, right? I first played Catan about 7 years ago, and I believe the game is older than a decade (although the first few years, the game was only available in German).

Man, this thread is reminding me of how many good games there are out there that aren't video games - I can't believe I didn't think of Arkham Horror until Alkaiser mentioned it.

Though we've got to throw out a few more classics that definitely are appreciated by gamers of all stripes. I haven't yet seen anyone mention Fluxx, and that's a game that all gamers should be familiar with. As is the much mroe creative, random, and DIY version, One Thousand Blank White Cards. And for all that people talk about Chrono Trigger being the best game to ever handle time travel, nothing stands up to Chrononauts (especially if you pick up the Alternate Identities and Early American versions and combine them for a game of Uber-Chrononauts).
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 4:39PM (Unverified) said

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I think the primary reason that video game culture has eclipsed boardgame culture has been overlooked: A video game is fun with only one player.

I'm sure there are exceptions in the analog game world (like solitaire, I suppose). But no analog technology can make a single-player game as engaging as interacting with a computer.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 4:47PM (Unverified) said

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I'd rather play video games than board games alone, but almost always, when in a group, I'd rather play board games.

Of course, you could compromise on the video/board game issue with either the upcoming Catan on Xbox360 or:
http://boardgamegeek.com/game/20899

Also, anyone who is a fan of Tetris (and who isn't?) should check out Blokus. Simple to learn, but lots of fitting oddly shaped blocks together-related strategy.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 4:56PM (Unverified) said

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Poker is more popular than ever. Completely analog and simple game.

Video gaming is usually a solitary act these days, making it very convenient. If I get home from work and my girlfriend is running late or making dinner, I can pop something in the Xbox.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 6:35PM (Unverified) said

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Jesus christ, first retro and roguelikes, now board games. Way to rip off http://www.etoychest.org AGAIN.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:39PM (Unverified) said

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Personally, I just got back from a tabletop gaming session (playing a cockroach is more fun than you think), and I have to say analog gaming doesn't seem dead to me.

I think the thing is that analog gaming is just quieter--i.e. you don't hear about it because most of the newer stuff isn't out to nab anyone who isn't already in their established user base. Tabletop RPGs in particular don't really chase after new customers with any sort of reckless abandon because there's already a fanbase out there large enough for them to cater to. Word of mouth keeps the fanbase at a steady size, and everyone's profitable.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 11:36PM eolith said

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There's a tactile necessity at times when playing games. Further, the social aspect of table-top games (Carcassonne, Runebound, Settlers of Cataan, Uno) brings people face to face. An aspect of gaming that is largely lost in the online-multiplayer frenzy found in today's gaming industries. My wife and neighbor both play digital and analog games with me.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2006 9:19AM (Unverified) said

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I feel that board games are making quite a resurgence. Now you can't be playing many of the games that are available at Wal-Mart most of them just are not that fun. Roll a die and move around a board...Snore. However there are at least 20 or more board games I am looking forward to buying and playing. Yet my list of video games that capture my attention is extremely small. Wait I don't think there is one video game I want right now. I don't want to spend $400 or more on a new system. All the games seem like more of the same with flashy graphics. Yet the board games that are coming out seem to be trying new things and seem much more vibrant and excitting than any of the video games I have seen. Then again maybe I am getting old.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2006 2:12AM (Unverified) said

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To use your terms, "analogue" gaming is just as fun as "Digital" gaming. You would be suprised how many people actually enjoy a good boardgame. Ive Introduced at least half a dozen of my work collegues to boardgames they would never have otherwise played, and they loved them, Ticket to Ride being the most popular(one even wanting to know where he could get a copy from)

Since I bought it nearly a month ago, Ive played it 12 times, and have never won a game, I still enjoy playing it, that is the mark of a good game.

Another bonus is my girlfriend would rather play a board or card game with me of an evening than a console or PC game, now that has to be a better incentive than any amount of gamer points.
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